Liverpool Football Club | 2012/13 Season

[justarslan]

Welcome Aboard Brendan Rodgers!

Pre-Season 2012/13 | North America Tour

July 21, 2012 - Liverpool FC vs Toronto FC

July 25, 2012 - Liverpool FC vs AS Roma

July 28, 2012 - Liverpool FC vs Spurs

Link: http://www.lfctour.com/

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[Chicharito14Hernandez]

They need someone who can just finish it; someone like Hernandez.

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Chicharito14Hernandez They need someone who can just finish it; someone like Hernandez.

Liverpool should go for Huntelaar.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Doubt he would sink so low

[Amjid Javed]

Aslong as liverpool avoid relegation and do well in the cups i think it will be considered a good season for liverpool.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Originally Posted by justarslan Welcome Aboard Brendan Rodgers!

Its gonna be a bumpy ride...

[justarslan]

2012/13 Season | Liverpool FC Premier League Fixture List

AUGUST

18 West Brom (A)
25 Manchester City (H)

SEPTEMBER

1 Arsenal (H)
15 Sunderland (A)
22 Manchester United (H)
29 Norwich City (A)

OCTOBER

6 Stoke City (H)
20 Reading (H)
27 Everton (A)

NOVEMBER

3 Newcastle United (H)
10 Chelsea (A)
17 Wigan Athletic (H)
24 Swansea City (A)
27 Tottenham (A)

DECEMBER

1 Southampton (H)
8 West Ham (A)
15 Aston Villa (H)
22 Fulham (H)
26 Stoke City (A)
29 QPR (A)

JANUARY 2013

1 Sunderland (H)
12 Manchester United (A)
19 Norwich City (H)
29 Arsenal (A)

FEBRUARY

2 Manchester City (A)
9 West Brom (H)
23 Swansea City (H)

MARCH

2 Wigan Athletic (A)
9 Tottenham (H)
16 Southampton (A)
30 Aston Villa (A)

APRIL

6 West Ham (H)
13 Reading (A)
20 Chelsea (H)
27 Newcastle United (A)

MAY

4 Everton (H)
12 Fulham (A)
19 QPR (H)

Source: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...tures-revealed

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Chicharito14Hernandez They need someone who can just finish it; someone like Hernandez.

Liverpool need alot more then just a top quality striker.

There sqaud is decent at best.

[DeadlyVenom]

Top 8 finish would be a good result this season. The squad lacks some serious quality.

[Pakistaniboy]

Spurs would be worse without Modric and Bale..

I hope Liverpool finish above The chickens(Spurs)

[justarslan]

Rafael Benitez: England have the talent – but not the philosophy
By Rafa Benitez

That was a very good experience for the young English players, however disheartened they may have been as they came home yesterday. Going into extra time and penalties in a tournament quarter-final like that will serve them well. But the Italians had more quality – we can't ignore that – and though the Football Association is trying to change things, we cannot disguise that it is still a long way off creating a system which enables England's players to compete with the very best in Europe, or the world.

I think Italy had an incentive to prove on Sunday night that their football is good, because they are no longer on top in the Champions League competitions now, and they really did demonstrate the technical distance between the two nations. There are many changes required in the way this country develops its young players. To make them more competitive, England above all need the clubs to decide on the style of football they want to play, from academy right through to first team. They must then coach the coaches in that style and then coach the players.

For me, there is a very big weakness in the system when the players reach 18. At that age, a player in England who is not quite at the required level to play in the Premier League has to go off on loan to a League One or Two team, where it is very difficult for him to develop the basic skills in the way he would at his club. The style and standard of coaching will probably just not be the same.

Those players who are of a slightly better standard but still not quite good enough to play in the Premier League will end up sitting on the first-team bench, and could be stuck there for years. Take Scott Carson, for example. He was the best player at Leeds United and then joined us at Liverpool, but he hardly played a game for three years.

When I arrived at Liverpool, this problem struck me and I said that our reserve team should play in the Football League pyramid. I wanted to use the experience of my years as a player and manager of the Real Madrid reserve team, which played in the Spanish second division. Joining the pyramid was important, but nobody wanted to hear or listen and I was told that I was going against an English tradition by suggesting this. I think people can see the problem a little clearer now.

If we assume the English reserve teams will not be allowed to compete in the pyramid, the only way to create matches for these young players is by making the Reserve League a proper Under-21 national competition, which allows teams to select a limited number of first-team players to help them recover from injury or keep match-fit. I know the Premier League is working on this for next season. It must be a competitive Under-21 league in spirit.

But it is the introduction of the same style of play throughout a club – and seriously investing in the coaching system to make that happen – which underpins the creation of more technically equipped players, and it was in the final year at Liverpool that we linked the academy and club more closely to make that possible.

There are plenty of myths about this idea of one style of football running throughout the club. For example, just because Barcelona have become such a successful club, everybody now talks about wanting to play "like Barcelona". But we were talking about having a consistent style throughout the club at Real Madrid over 15 years ago. How can you play "the Barcelona way" if you don't have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi?

It is more realistic to decide on a system; deciding, for instance, that you want to play the ball on the floor, not in the air, and then you need to create a philosophy at your club where everyone has the same one. You stick to it, no matter who is manager, and you appoint a manager with that vision. (If it's a non-football person who decides on the vision, it could be a problem.)

At Liverpool, we created this link between the academy and the first team by appointing Pep Segura, who had been at Barcelona, as the academy's technical director, with Rodolfo Borrell as Under-18s coach. We agreed which systems we would use and which style. In England, the individuals who are asked to coach the coaches and help spread the playing philosophy are very, very important. You can't just work with computers and databases of young footballers.

I have also been advocating for several years that clubs should be allowed to recruit young players from anywhere and that change, now allowed for in the Premier League EPPP document, cannot come soon enough. At Real Madrid, we trialled hundreds of boys a year from Madrid and all over Spain. If the best cannot work with the best, they will not progress.

I don't think England should be too worried about the number of overseas players in the Premier League. The country's young footballers can learn from those players, their different styles and ideas. And I don't think that the 4-4-2 system which Roy Hodgson used at the European Championship will prevent technically talented players being put to best use for the national side. The 4-4-2 style can become 4-2-3-1 when a team attacks. It's the football philosophy that counts, not the system.

It is a question of what you want to do when you are in possession and what you want to do when you are not in possession. It is about people having more ambition, more confidence in their game to try things out and to get into the box. The improvement in basic technical skill that we are talking about and the confidence in a philosophy which is instilled into players will solve the problems. I have been saying this for a number of years but it is very hard to be heard sometimes!

England have to look forward. Finding top players is not the problem. The potential is out there, all around. It is how to develop it which people should be talking about.

Miki's death puts Euros in perspective

The death at the weekend of one of the first players I signed at Liverpool, Miki Roque, has really put the European Championship into perspective for me.

It was a shock, because when I was in contact with Miki's family after he was diagnosed with a tumour in his pelvis last year it seemed that the operation had gone well.

He came to us from a modest level of Spanish football and threw himself into English life.

Of all the Spanish players I have signed, I don't know if any had such good as English as Miki.

He came on in the Champions League for us at Galatasaray and in the end he returned to Spain to further his career at Real Betis.

He was a friend of our Austrian forward Besian Idrizaj, another player whose life was lost when he suffered a heart attack, two years ago. The game of football really is the most insignificant thing. Rest in peace, Miki.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...8.html?afid=af

[justarslan]

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers makes Fabio Borini his first signing

The Roma striker Fabio Borini has become Brendan Rodgers' first signing as Liverpool manager after finalising a long-term deal at Anfield.

The 21-year-old Italy international passed a medical and agreed personal terms at the club's Melwood training ground on Friday.

Borini moves to Anfield for a fee understood to be is in the region of £7.9m.

The striker will be reunited with Rodgers, with whom he worked in the Chelsea youth set up, for a second time having spent a short spell on loan at Swansea in the 2010-11 season.

Borini, who scored six goals in nine matches for the Swans, is pleased to be back in England and hopes he can help the club get back into the Champions League.

"I felt really good because I wanted to come back to England one day. I knew sooner or later I would be back," he said.

"Being back with Liverpool is even better because I can show the people what I can do – we've got the Europa League and lots of things to play for.

"I hope to achieve the maximum I can, by scoring goals, getting into the Champions League and all of the things the club also wants – and all the other players.

"It's a top club that has won a lot of trophies in the past – and will do so in the future we hope as well."

Borini believes he will find it easy to fit in at Anfield as he knows what Rodgers expects and how he wants to play.

The fact the Liverpool manager made him his first signing since succeeding Kenny Dalglish last month also means a lot to the player.

"I've got the trust of the manager and the club, which for me is very nice and I'm proud to be here," he told liverpoolfc.com. "He was very important. I wouldn't say it was the key, but most of it came from him.

"Even during last season, I spoke with him a lot. I'd text him and ask if he was OK and congratulated him on the results he got with Swansea.

"First of all it is a relationship of friendship and afterwards it is a working one. That is more important than anything.

"I used to play 4-3-3 with him and he is very good to play football for. It is great to play football for him because you can have fun and you can get results.

"I could see at Swansea the people loved him because the football was attractive. People like to see football [played] like this."

Borini returned to his homeland last summer, joining Parma when his contract at Stamford Bridge expired.

He was immediately loaned out to Roma, where he scored nine times in 24 matches and, after they bought half of his rights in January, the Serie A club secured full ownership, at a total cost of around £6m, last month.

Borini's form earned him a place in Italy's Euro 2012 squad but he remained on the bench throughout his country's run to the final, where they were beaten by Spain.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...s-fabio-borini


Maxi Rodríguez leaves Liverpool for Newell's Old Boys in Argentina

Maxi Rodríguez has left Liverpool to rejoin his former club Newell's Old Boys in Argentina.

The 31-year-old midfielder never established himself as a regular in the first-team after joining from Atlético Madrid in January 2010, but he still managed some impressive performances.

Rodríguez scored 17 goals in 73 appearances, the highlights being two hat-tricks in the space of a fortnight against Birmingham and Fulham in 2011, while last season he scored in two victories over Chelsea in quick succession at Stamford Bridge.

The Argentinian, popular with supporters if not with the three different managers he had at Anfield, wrote an open letter to supporters.

"Dear Reds, I am leaving Liverpool FC today," it said. "Before signing for LFC, I just saw the club as one of the greatest institutions in football. After my time here I can confirm that this is not just a great club but also a great family.

"I have tried to give everything every day that I was wearing the LFC crest. It has been a great honour to defend this shirt during two and a half years.

"I am returning home with a suitcase full of great memories, good friends within the team and also within this great family that works every day in the club. Thanks a lot for your support. Hasta la vista."

A statement from the club read: "Everyone at Liverpool FC would like to thank Maxi for his contribution to the club and wish him all the best for the future."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...aves-liverpool

[Liverpoolred]

Top 4 finish would be great, but I don't see it happening.

We need to lift the FA Cup and Europa League this season.

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by Liverpoolred Top 4 finish would be great, but I don't see it happening. We need to lift the FA Cup and Europa League this season.

Personally, I think we should always aim for title at the start of every season. By aiming for fourth, we are surrendering first three spot to our rivals.

In other news, Fabio Borini will count as home grown player because of his time at Chelsea.

[Liverpoolred]

Agreed, that was just my personal realistic opinion.

Its important that they aim for the title.

[chui_kadoo]

A top 4 is a must for us this season. Thats our main goal. No top 4 then we need a proven world level manager who can can change things around.

[PakFan2010]

Top 4

Liverpool's midfield and attack is average beyond belief.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Originally Posted by justarslan Personally, I think we should always aim for title at the start of every season. By aiming for fourth, we are surrendering first three spot to our rivals. In other news, Fabio Borini will count as home grown player because of his time at Chelsea.

You'd be lucky to finish 6th, never mind the title.

[chacha kashmiri]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Top 4 Liverpool's midfield and attack is average beyond belief.

It's comparable with anyone bar city

[James]

Rodgers is a good appointment. Should aim for top six at least.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri It's comparable with anyone bar city

What a bag of crap.

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri It's comparable with anyone bar city

Downing
Henderson
Carroll
Adam

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri it's comparable with anyone bar city

lol

[chacha kashmiri]

young
nani
fletcher
carrick
wellbeck rooney


walcott
ramsey
rosicky
gervinho
podolski
giroud

bellamy
gerrard
lucas
adams
aqualani
suareaz
borini


Not much in it

[James]

So apparently Rodgers is trying to offload Carroll on loan to Newcastle or Italy, but Carroll wants to stay and prove himself.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by James So apparently Rodgers is trying to offload Carroll on loan to Newcastle or Italy, but Carroll wants to stay and prove himself.

Sky Sports were reporting we made a loan offer for him BUT it was rejected as Liverpool prefer a sale

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri young nani fletcher carrick wellbeck rooney walcott ramsey rosicky gervinho podolski giroud bellamy gerrard lucas adams aqualani suareaz borini Not much in it

Talk about a mismatch of players, why list Fletcher when the guy is injured (long term) BUT not Hernandez or Kagawa? #

Also don't forget Chelsea or Spurs who are better and I would argue us as well

[chacha kashmiri]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Talk about a mismatch of players, why list Fletcher when the guy is injured (long term) BUT not Hernandez or Kagawa? # Also don't forget Chelsea or Spurs who are better and I would argue us as well

Don't know whose coming and going with spurs at the moment
Chelsea have a pretty good midfield but questionable strikeforce
and newcastle have a good midfield and great strikeforce


I wouldn't say any of the teams are head above heels over any of the others

[James]

City are surely going to win the league again. They have by far the best squad and players, a good enough manager, and have now overcome the mental hurdle of winning that title.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri Don't know whose coming and going with spurs at the moment Chelsea have a pretty good midfield but questionable strikeforce and newcastle have a good midfield and great strikeforce I wouldn't say any of the teams are head above heels over any of the others

BUT as things stand Spurs are better, they have signed Adebayor and Bale is staying, if Modric goes then it appears they will replace him with Moutinho

Not necessarily miles better BUT the following teams do have a better midfield/strike than Liverpool

Man-City
Man-U
Arsenal
Chelsea
Spurs
Newcastle

[chacha kashmiri]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed BUT as things stand Spurs are better, they have signed Adebayor and Bale is staying, if Modric goes then it appears they will replace him with Moutinho Not necessarily miles better BUT the following teams do have a better midfield/strike than Liverpool Man-City Man-U Arsenal Chelsea Spurs Newcastle

Moutinho for modric?
what aboutt vdw and defore?

we'l see how many seasons newcastle can keep it up for

[PakFan2010]

VDW lol
It's VDV and Van Der Vaart is staying and Defoe is a 2nd striker behind Adebayor.

[chacha kashmiri]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 VDW lol It's VDV and Van Der Vaart is staying and Defoe is a 2nd striker behind Adebayor.

have hamburg dropped their interest in van der vart? and redknapp wasnted to sell defoe, does avg want to keep him?

[mufassir]

Originally Posted by James City are surely going to win the league again. They have by far the best squad and players, a good enough manager, and have now overcome the mental hurdle of winning that title.

We just need a couple of more signings and our squad would be just as good as man city's if not better.

[PakFan2010]

That awkward moment when Zlatan Ibrahimovic + Thiago Silva (£51.3m) cost less than Jordan Henderson and Andy Carroll (£55m).

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by mufassir We just need a couple of more signings and our squad would be just as good as man city's if not better.

Seriously?

Hart > Cech

Richards > Any chelsea RB
Kompany > Terry
Lescott > Cahill
Clichy < Cole

Barry > Mikel
Yaya Toure > Lampard/Oscar or anyone

Silva > Any right forward of Chelsea's.
Tevez > Mata
Nasri >< Hazard

Aguero > Torres or anybody.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 That awkward moment when Zlatan Ibrahimovic + Thiago Silva (£51.3m) cost less than Jordan Henderson and Andy Carroll (£55m).

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

Liverpool owner wrote on his website that they had signed Dempsey. What a complete looney - Fulham and Liverpool both denied it.

[chacha kashmiri]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 That awkward moment when Zlatan Ibrahimovic + Thiago Silva (£51.3m) cost less than Jordan Henderson and Andy Carroll (£55m).

Compare the ages

and how much did rebrov and pvluchenko cost and david bently and darren bent

[Liverpoolred]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri compare the ages and how much did rebrov and pvluchenko cost and david bently and darren bent

+1.

[6xafridi]

I heard they are targeting Holtby and Draxler... two future stars in the making.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri Compare the ages and how much did rebrov and pvluchenko cost and david bently and darren bent

BUT Zlatan and Thiago are world class whilst Carroll/Henderson won't be, especially Henderson is would be lucky to become a decent player

[mufassir]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Hart > Cech Richards > Any chelsea RB Kompany > Terry Lescott > Cahill Clichy < Cole Barry > Mikel Yaya Toure > Lampard/Oscar or anyone Silva > Any right forward of Chelsea's. Tevez > Mata Nasri >< Hazard Aguero > Torres or anybody.

LOL!

Cech=hart
ivanovic < richards
David luiz=lescott
Terry(Past his prime) < kompany
cole>clichy

Ramires>>>barry
Lampard(past his prime) < toure
Chelsea dont really have a proper right sided forward right now so no need of comparing sturridge with silva.We will buy one though.
Mata>tevez
Hazard>nasri

Torres(if he regains his old form then this one will also be tie) < aguero

So both are first 11 are more or less even.Then we have players like mikel,sturridge,marin,debruyne,oscar,benayoun,bert rand,Mceachran,meireles,romeu,cahill etc etc in the reserves.So i think our squad is equal to man city if not better.

[PakFan2010]

Mata > Tevez = Tevez is a much better player than Mata
Hazard is unproven in the PL, A tie with Nasri at this current moment.

Don't get me started on Torres and Aguero
And Luiz and Lescott

and Cech and Hart

Also, I love the way you don't include Silva in the comparisons.

Chelsea won't play 4-2-3-1 with Ramires/Lampard as the two.

[Amir]

I don't believe my eyes. PakFan schooling someone with logical football knowledge.

[mufassir]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Mata > Tevez = Tevez is a much better player than Mata Hazard is unproven in the PL, A tie with Nasri at this current moment. Don't get me started on Torres and Aguero And Luiz and Lescott and Cech and Hart Also, I love the way you don't include Silva in the comparisons. Chelsea won't play 4-2-3-1 with Ramires/Lampard as the two.

Let me put this in a simple way for you to understand no chelsea fan in a million years would trade mata,luiz and cech for tevez,lescott and hart.Hazard proven or not is a better player then nasri and the old torres was definitely on par with aguero if not better and hopefully we will see the old torres this season again,aguero is certainly better then the current torres without a doubt.You can say whatever you want but i have great faith in the current squad and hopefully they will come good.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Cech is well dodgy, you would be mental to pick him ahead of Hart

[mufassir]

Originally Posted by Georrie Ahmed Cech is well dodgy, you would be me etal to pick him ahead of Hart

Cech was sensational Towards the end of The season

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by mufassir Cech was sensational Towards the end of The season

Had a couple of excellent games in the Champions League BUT was such in the league and was poor in the Euro's

Hart is better than him, no doubts about it

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by Amir I don't believe my eyes. PakFan schooling someone with logical football knowledge.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[mufassir]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Had a couple of excellent games in the Champions League BUT was such in the league and was poor in the Euro's Hart is better than him, no doubts about it

Over the years i have seen cech make some phenomenal saves and if he maintains his form he is one of the best keepers in the world.Although he did have a poor euro 2012 outing.I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

If Cech = Hart then I = Ronaldo.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by mufassir Over the years i have seen cech make some phenomenal saves and if he maintains his form he is one of the best keepers in the world.Although he did have a poor euro 2012 outing.I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Given makes some phenomenal saves. Does that mean he is world class? No. Since his head injury, he lacks consistency. And he is gradually getting slower with age.

He is no longer the same goalie he was. He is still good but Hart is only getting better.

[justarslan]

Reds sign Chevrolet deal

Liverpool FC today announced they are entering into a four-year partnership agreement with Chevrolet to become its Official Automotive Partner.

The partnership runs to the end of the 2015-16 Barclays Premier League and European campaigns, and includes visibility for the brand at Anfield, Liverpool's home ground; editorial opportunities within the club's print and digital publications and fan sites; and player appearances for commercial opportunities.

Chevrolet is also an official sponsor for the club's pre-season tour, one of the most popular in the world, which has already seen Liverpool play Toronto FC last Saturday. Liverpool will play Italian giants, AS Roma tomorrow at Fenway Park in Boston and on 28 July they will play English Premier League rivals, Tottenham Hotspur in Baltimore.

Chris Perry, global Chevrolet marketing vice president, said: "Liverpool supporters from around the world are known for their undying love of their side. Our relationship with Liverpool FC extends beyond the traditional boundaries of sponsorship and is about engaging with supporters. Everything we do will be aimed at keeping them at the centre of the game."

Ian Ayre, managing director of Liverpool Football Club, said: "Much like our club, Chevrolet has a long, rich history with a growing, global brand and this landmark partnership once again demonstrates the value of Liverpool's international appeal.

"Partnerships with blue chip brands like Chevy will help ensure the long-term growth and success of our club, both on-and-off the pitch. We look forward to working closely with Chevy to help reach and engage our supporters, who are among the most passionate and educated fans in the world."

Source: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...chevrolet-deal

[chacha kashmiri]

Joe allen, for 13.5

The moneyball is coming into effect this season, with the best midfielder stats wise being bought and dempsey, another player who looks sh1t but scores goals

For 15m, liverpool could have bought marva martin for ten e, isla for ten million e, reus for 17m euros, or marko marin for 8me

Another brit player vastly overpriced,but exactly kind of player rodger is looking for

[Amjid Javed]

Liverpool will need to start season well and also impose themselves at anfield and win alot more games at home then they have done over last few seasons.

Man city, Arsenal and United in 1st three Home games for them is going to be very tough indeed!

[Anfield]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri Joe allen, for 13.5 The moneyball is coming into effect this season, with the best midfielder stats wise being bought and dempsey, another player who looks sh1t but scores goals For 15m, liverpool could have bought marva martin for ten e, isla for ten million e, reus for 17m euros, or marko marin for 8me Another brit player vastly overpriced,but exactly kind of player rodger is looking for

please god no! not allen. I dont want any more fricking overpaid british crap after the disasters in last couple of years. 15 mil for Allen is beyond a joke. united got Kagawa for what 17 mil? so only 2 mil difference and they get a world class player while we get the same old sh*t. Now i realise we cant offer players like Kagawa champions league football but that just shows value for money!

and no to 10 for a dempsey is also a big no.

[Anfield]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Liverpool will need to start season well and also impose themselves at anfield and win alot more games at home then they have done over last few seasons. Man city, Arsenal and United in 1st three Home games for them is going to be very tough indeed!

to be honest Im kinda happy we got the big teams early on and that too at home because we ALWAYS turn up for big boys, our troubles are dealing with the lesser teams. so not too worried about the start in all honesty. though agreed a good start is crucial.

[finalfantasy7]

supposely you interested in ramirez from bologna, very good player, van persie esque left foot on him (power/curl he gets). he might cost £18+m

Reports saying that agger may be sold heard that barca interested in him

But looks like another dissapointing yr for you lot, buy that j.allen for thatt much is day light robbery, £6.5m most.

Wont be suprised if suarez will want out after this upcoming season, can see him move to milan/inter

[PakFan2010]

Can't see many teams touching Suarez with the fee that Liverpool would set.

[finalfantasy7]

I can, considering inter tried to buy that brazilian LUCAS for 28m and got rejected, milan sale on silva/ibrah bought them 63m euros easily afford him, but with italian clubs especially milan/juve dont like paying over the odds.

Honestly i value suarez at around £25m - if liverpool dont improve i think he will leave, also taking into account Juve/Inter/Milan need a striker - all better clubs.

Has borini played in friendlies yet? if so good/bad, i know its really early

[finalfantasy7]

well pakfan your right , he's signed a new contract;
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/englan...liverpool-deal

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

One word.

Goal.com.

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by Chicharito14Hernandez One word. Goal.com.

Suarez signs new contract

Luis Suarez has signed a new long-term contract with the club.

The Uruguay forward committed his future to the Reds by putting pen to paper on the deal on Tuesday afternoon after returning to Melwood following the Olympics earlier this week.

Moments after signing the deal, Suarez told Liverpoolfc.com: "To sign a new contract with Liverpool is unbelievable for me because I am so happy here at both the club and also in the city.

"That is important for me and I am very happy with my new contract.

"When you are a kid, everybody wants to play for Liverpool. I am here now and it is a dream for me, and now I am a Liverpool fan.

"I am happy off the pitch because the people of Liverpool are good with me and my family. I try my best on the pitch and when you are happy off the pitch, you are happy on the pitch.

"I want to say thank-you to the fans because they are our 12th player. The supporters of Liverpool are unbelievable.

"Five or six years ago I watched on TV the stadium and the club, and now I play here and the supporters have helped me. That's very important for me."

Suarez has established himself as a Kop favourite at Anfield since his transfer from Ajax in January 2011.

The No.7 has scored 21 goals and created countless assists for his teammates in 52 appearances for Liverpool.

Manager Brendan Rodgers added: "I'm delighted. When you have the opportunity to work with world-class players it's fantastic.

"There were certainly a few clubs who were interested in him but over the off-season he and I communicated well - and he's committed himself for the long term here now.

"He's really looking forward to playing in this way of working. As a manager and for the supporters, I'm delighted because I know how important he is for them."

Stay tuned to Liverpoolfc.com throughout the night for more exclusive reaction to the deal from Suarez and Rodgers.

Source: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...s-new-contract

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

West Brom

[Pakistaniboy]

Ouch!

Not a good start for you guys..

[Canistani Hero]

Tough start for Brendan Rodgers. Really needs to get his act together or he'll be out of the door before Christmas. Oh Liverpool

[OZGOD]

What a caning.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Suarez needs to find his shooting boots, had loads of chances today, General play is quality BUT let's himself down at the end

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Suarez needs to find his shooting boots, had loads of chances today, General play is quality BUT let's himself down at the end

His finishing is really what keeps him from being mentioned in the same breath as the great strikers today.

[Luton Bad Boy]

It just feels like Roy Hodsgon V2 again (with Rodgers at the helm)

Move from a minnow team (no disrespect meant) to a big club and take one-season wonders with you to your new club

Borini needs time to settle but, what about Downing, Carroll, Joe Cole, Henderson (all season veterans with their previous clubs)

What of Gerrard, Carragher and Reina (who are the heart of this team) and showed a defeatist attitude

BRING BACK RAFA!!

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by Luton Bad Boy It just feels like Roy Hodsgon V2 again (with Rodgers at the helm) Move from a minnow team (no disrespect meant) to a big club and take one-season wonders with you to your new club Borini needs time to settle but, what about Downing, Carroll, Joe Cole, Henderson (all season veterans with their previous clubs) What of Gerrard, Carragher and Reina (who are the heart of this team) and showed a defeatist attitude BRING BACK RAFA!!

Joe Allen was our best player on the pitch today. Carra and Gerrard should have been sold couple of seasons ago when their stock was still high. Crap day today but it is disrespect to call for head of manager without giving him fair chance.

[James]

Lol.

[Uzi]

Suarez looks such a good player in and around the box, very nimble and can weave one way and the other, but his finishing is seriously poor. If Liverpool are to have any chance of getting into Europe they will need him to take his chances.

It was quite funny though seeing the Scousers get thrashed.

[Chicharito14Hernandez]

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by Chicharito14Hernandez

Obsessed mucho!

[Amir]

^haha typical Scouser response.

That is really a great and true chart.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Amir I don't believe my eyes. PakFan schooling someone with logical football knowledge.

Maybe someone hacked into his account

[Amjid Javed]

As ive mentioned before if liverpool avoid relegation then it should be seen as a sucsessful season.

[chui_kadoo]

When we play well we dont win and we dont we get thrashed. We should have won today. Seems like Calamity Reina strikes again. After evrery 10 or so games he costs us dear with a blooper. He needs to be replaced ASAP. He is really getting on my nerves now. Our defencive mistakes today were shocking.