Bring back Mohsin Khan Thread

[hashmist]

Seriously. Did we not whip the same Lankan team a few months ago in UAE under MHK's pappi/japhee arroach? What has DW done to make this team better except beating BD to win the Asia Cup?

So far not impressed with DW and Fountain at all.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

What - you want a cheerleader to come back?

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI What - you want a cheerleader to come back?

Why not if cheerleading is all this team needed to win? Please answer my q above; what has DW done so far to make the team better?

[srh]

not impressed with Fountain. It seems Pakistan's fielding has even more regressed under him.

[Lalafied]

When SL came to UAE it was a bit different. They didn't have quite a settled team and if people remember they weren't getting paid. Plus this is SL in SL and our batting has been exposed fully.

[Bullet Drive]

Give the current coach AT LEAST 6 months to see improvement.

[Zamee]

Mohsin that egoist tea drinking actor? Id prefer Mirza Iqbal Baig as a coach rather than the cheerleader.
Go back to your cave OP

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by Bullet Drive Give the current coach AT LEAST 6 months to see improvement.

I agree with you and my suggestion is more tongue in cheek and admittedly knee jerk, but DW has been at the helms for at least four months now and I have yet to see much positive coming out of his planning/approach, the things we brought him on for. I would say give a new coach some time to sort things out only if he inherets a really bad team, but we were doing fairly well when he took over. He only needed to fine tune a few things.

[Zeeraq]

Originally Posted by Lalafied When SL came to UAE it was a bit different. They didn't have quite a settled team and if people remember they weren't getting paid. Plus this is SL in SL and our batting has been exposed fully.

If everyone use their brain....

Their Team wasn't settled, Dilshan wasn't a good captain & We're better in UAE.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by hashmist Why not if cheerleading is all this team needed to win? Please answer my q above; what has DW done so far to make the team better?

lol - seriously mate.

How long does it take to implement any strategy?

1 day
2 day
1 week
2 weeks
1 month
2 months
1 year
2 years

Answer that question and you will realise the impact of cheerleaders and coaches.

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by Zamee Mohsin that egoist tea drinking actor? Id prefer Mirza Iqbal Baig as a coach rather than the cheerleader. Go back to your cave OP

How did we do under that egoist tea drinking actor? And I am typing from my cave, so nothing to go back to.

[srh]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI lol - seriously mate. How long does it take to implement any strategy? 1 day 2 day 1 week 2 weeks 1 month 2 months 1 year 2 years Answer that question and you will realise the impact of cheerleaders and coaches.

agreed Khan Ji. But Whatmore do need to tighten the screws on Fountain. Fielding levels have gone more down now

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by Zeeraq If everyone use their brain.... Their Team wasn't settled, Dilshan wasn't a good captain & We're better in UAE.

No need to throw insults and get personal. I am only stating my opinion. I liked our overall performance a lot better 6 months ago.

Fine Dilshan was the worst captain in the world and Jaya is the best. You can say whatever you want to support your argument but what about our own performance? Have we gotten better or worse?

[saadibaba]

I am just going to throw it out there. Maybe the players are revolting against DW, what better way to get him fired than to lose a few series. They have done it before to captains.

[Zeeraq]

Originally Posted by hashmist No need to throw insults and get personal. I am only stating my opinion. I liked our overall performance a lot better 6 months ago. Fine Dilshan was the worst captain in the world and Jaya is the best. You can say whatever you want to support your argument but what about our own performance? Have we gotten better or worse?

When did i get personal??

Our Team is getting a worse, but is there any solution to it?

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by srh not impressed with Fountain. It seems Pakistan's fielding has even more regressed under him.

Thing is with bad fielding is that we put ourselves at a 20 run (misfields) and at least a 2 wicket (drops/missed run outs) disadvantage.

The bowlers have to work doubly hard to get that wicket-taking opportunity again.

I don't think hiring coach after coach will solve this, it is all due to lazy mindset with the players.

David Dwyer came in and said fielding/fitness was all about the players commitment, but some players were breaking their diets and not taking the time to work on their fielding.

Can't really blame Fountain for the fielding, the players have to take responsibility.

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by saadibaba I am just going to throw it out there. Maybe the players are revolting against DW, what better way to get him fired than to lose a few series. They have done it before to captains.

But our limited overs team under Mohsin wasn't great either, we were awful against England too. Its just that the players aren't good enough to play LOIs.

[speed]

lol mohsin khan led pak to a whitewash in uae at least this pak team put up a decant show in sl v sl.

[talha3]

Fielding levels have regressed under Fountain. Strategy is the same under Whatmore.

Basically, I see no improvement, no change.

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by saadibaba I am just going to throw it out there. Maybe the players are revolting against DW, what better way to get him fired than to lose a few series. They have done it before to captains.

I am not the one to talk conspiracies but we all know that our team is capable of anything. Don't think Misbah would ever allow it under his leadership, but you never know.

I also have no doubt that in the long term DW will most likely sort some of these issues out, but he is surely not on the right track so far. Our batting has gotten worse which I did not think was even possible, and so has our fielding; two things DW and Fountain were supposed to fix. Now we don't have a bowling coach either to keep our bowlers focused.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by srh agreed Khan Ji. But Whatmore do need to tighten the screws on Fountain. Fielding levels have gone more down now

Everything takes time.... it takes time.

[Strike!]

We were whitewashed 4-0 in ODI's under Mohsin Khan, Where was he then?

[hashmist]

Originally Posted by Strike! We were whitewashed 4-0 in ODI's under Mohsin Khan, Where was he then?

Good point. Forgot about that. Never mind. Please destroy my knee jerk thread

But seriously my main worry is DW's inability so far to help make this team play at or above their potential. They have consistently played below their potential since he took over, so nothing has changed so far. This line up can't successfully chase anything over 220, and can't score anything over 250 while batting first.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by hashmist Good point. Forgot about that. Never mind. Please destroy my knee jerk thread But seriously my main worry is DW's inability so far to help make this team play at or above their potential. They have consistently played below their potential since he took over, so nothing has changed so far. This line up can't successfully chase anything over 220, and can't score anything over 250 while batting first.

Takes time.

If it takes 2 months with England.... Count 6 months for Pak.

6 months for England?.... Count 1 year for pak..!

Get the picture?

[khanz141]

What makes me worried is the awful team selection over and over and not learning from it at all. The t20 and the ODi teams were both very badly imbalanced due to the poor team selection through out the series

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by khanz141 What makes me worried is the awful team selection over and over and not learning from it at all. The t20 and the ODi teams were both very badly imbalanced due to the poor team selection through out the series

Nepotism

[w8in_4_0402]

I know he was disappointed not to be given the job as a coach. it was a field where he did a good job but when he was the chief selector our cricket was moving forward. the right people were being selected and on merit too.

I hope he comes back because the recent selection has been disastrous. It doesn't need a genius to see the bias in the selection committee. If they can't do the job properly for the betterment for the sake of Pakistan circket and can't come to any conclusion then a Quota system may be useful in our system.

I hope MHK comes back as chief selector heck even Ilyas did ok, he selected a decent enough team that won us the Asia cup.


Whatmore needs to ensure results are provided fast because so far there is no contribution to be seen from the so called 'world class coach'. Fountain is already looking for excuses rather than willing to ensure things like that don't happen. Since hes been back our fielding has been worse than past couple of series.

[waqar goraya]

mohsin hardly played any stroke during his tenure.....

shots were played by cricket board in selection and captain mostly..

so you think mohsin played good shots..

infact you are proving that ijaz butt played a good inning because infact butt was batting and mohsin was only the runner

[~Red Devil~]

I think MHK should be brought back as a Chief Selector. He was million times better than Iqbal Qasim

[BoomBoomCricket]

Mohsin Khan should still be the coach.

You don't replace a guy who won all of his 3 test series as coach & a large % of his ODIs.

Nothing to do with Dav, but Mohsin Khan deserved a longer stint.