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Old 9th July 2012, 16:44
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Tatenda Taibu Retires From International Cricket

Tatenda Taibu (29) retires from International Cricket.

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Old 9th July 2012, 16:47
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Old 9th July 2012, 16:48
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Isn't this the 2nd time he's retired?
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Old 9th July 2012, 16:54
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He is still 29!

What a player, he has been for Zimbabwe though! Skillful cricketer!
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Old 9th July 2012, 16:59
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Sad news. By far Zimbabwe's best black player.

Could have achieved more had it not been for the political interference and instability Mugabe brought about.
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:03
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:05
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I wish Pakistan had a keeper like him. Tabiu was safe behind a stumps and had a tidy average of 31 in test cricket.

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Old 9th July 2012, 17:06
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He's retired because he wants to work for his Lord. It's surprising because he was named in ZImbabwe's preliminary squad for the WC T20.
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:12
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Good cricketer. He's leaving so early too. He'll probably play domestic cricket?
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:18
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Good cricketer. He's leaving so early too. He'll probably play domestic cricket?
Read post #8.
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:30
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Isn't this the 2nd time he's retired?
Good memory. Another badam prodigy here.


It was sad then as well when he decided to quit because of all the problems in Zimbabean Cricket and it's sad now as well as this guy has underachieved because of all that. What a gusty lad he has been. I remember his ODI knock against Pakistani quicks early on at Sharjah. Showed a lot of heart this little man. I wish him well for future, cricket couldn't do justice to some of these Zimbabwean folks. Too much politics
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:37
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what happned to him suddenly .. loss for zimbabwe
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:49
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Mugabe and his henchman caused him problems in the past, not sure if that was a factor in his decision now.
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Old 9th July 2012, 17:59
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Wow, I expected to see him play again for the Zimmers.

Shock but also my best wishes to whatever he does.
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Old 9th July 2012, 18:05
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Old 9th July 2012, 18:22
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Tatenda Taibu, the Zimbabwe wicketkeeper-batsman, has announced his retirement, stating that he wants to focus on working for the church. Taibu played 28 Tests and 150 ODIs for Zimbabwe and has quit aged only 29, usually a cricketer's prime.

The decision comes as even more of a surprise as, earlier in the day, he was named in Zimbabwe's provisional squad for September's World Twenty20. It ends an 11-year international career, during which he became the youngest Test captain in history. A finger injury kept him out of top-flight cricket since the tour of New Zealand early this year.

"I just feel that my true calling now lies in doing the Lord's work," Taibu said, "and although I am fortunate and proud to have played for my country, the time has come for me to put my entire focus on that part of my life."

Since making his debut at the age of 18 in 2001, Taibu was an automatic pick for Zimbabwe, except for the times when he clashed with his country's cricket board. He had stepped down as captain and quit the national side back in 2005 following threats against his family. Taibu moved to South Africa in 2006 with the intention of going through the four-year qualification process to be eligible for international cricket for them. However, he reappeared for Zimbabwe in 2007.

One of the highlights of his career was his Man-of-the-Match performance in 2005 against Bangladesh, when he made 85* and 153 to help Zimbabwe draw the Test. His only other Test victory was against Bangladesh last year, when Zimbabwe returned to the format after a six-year exile. Taibu's outspoken nature was highlighted before that match as he slammed the board for not doing enough to promote cricket in the country.

He was picked while still in his teens as a potential long-term successor as wicketkeeper-batsman to Andy Flower, and while he didn't reach the heights Flower did, he forged a solid career. He finishes as the country's fourth-highest run-getter in ODIs, and only Flower has effected more dismissals than him as a one-day wicketkeeper for Zimbabwe.

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Old 9th July 2012, 18:36
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he's been an icon for ZIM after heath streak!
He is very similar to Ashraful.
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Old 9th July 2012, 18:40
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Does anyone remember the reaction of the crowd when he walked out on to the pitch as 12th man for Zim against the Windies?
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Old 9th July 2012, 18:48
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Old 9th July 2012, 19:09
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Some religious man needs to talk to him and make him understand how leaving in your prime is not the way to go, he can always continue the Lord's work later.
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Old 9th July 2012, 20:29
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Old 9th July 2012, 20:37
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he's been an icon for ZIM after heath streak!
He is very similar to Ashraful.
lol, please stop with these random comparisons. Taibu has achieved more than Ashraful can dream off especially considering the political turmoil and constant threat to Taibu and his family's safety he had to deal with.
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Some religious man needs to talk to him and make him understand how leaving in your prime is not the way to go, he can always continue the Lord's work later.
Would you have the same attitude if a Pakistani cricketer left the team to start Tableegh and spread the word of Islam?
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Old 9th July 2012, 21:26
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Would you have the same attitude if a Pakistani cricketer left the team to start Tableegh and spread the word of Islam?
Yes I would, I am not mocking his religion at all. But if God has given you the talent to play cricket for your country, and he has helped you to work so hard, you should look to fulfill that. I just feel he's in his prime and it's a bit of a waste that he's leaving cricket, he cannot come back to play cricket 5-10 years later, but he can continue to spread the word of his religion. That being said I guess it's a very personal choice, I just hope he doesn't regret it later.
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Old 9th July 2012, 21:33
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Yes I would, I am not mocking his religion at all. But if God has given you the talent to play cricket for your country, and he has helped you to work so hard, you should look to fulfill that. I just feel he's in his prime and it's a bit of a waste that he's leaving cricket, he cannot come back to play cricket 5-10 years later, but he can continue to spread the word of his religion. That being said I guess it's a very personal choice, I just hope he doesn't regret it later.
True, but Allah can bring him up any time.
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Some religious man needs to talk to him and make him understand how leaving in your prime is not the way to go, he can always continue the Lord's work later.
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Yes I would, I am not mocking his religion at all. But if God has given you the talent to play cricket for your country, and he has helped you to work so hard, you should look to fulfill that. I just feel he's in his prime and it's a bit of a waste that he's leaving cricket, he cannot come back to play cricket 5-10 years later, but he can continue to spread the word of his religion. That being said I guess it's a very personal choice, I just hope he doesn't regret it later.
what is the guarantee that he will remain alive after playing cricket 5-10 years? infact is there any guarantee that any person will remain alive to see the next day?
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Old 9th July 2012, 23:49
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Old 10th July 2012, 01:08
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True, but Allah can bring him up any time.
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what is the guarantee that he will remain alive after playing cricket 5-10 years? infact is there any guarantee that any person will remain alive to see the next day?
So, what's the point here?

Should we all leave our work and stop entertaining people and keep praying 24/7? What's the guarantee that God will be pleased with you by praying him/her? None. What's the guarantee that Zim. fans will be pleased by seeing him entertain. More than 0%.
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Old 10th July 2012, 01:19
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Taibu quits cricket to do what the Lord wants. Well, the Lord wants him to play cricket.
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Taibu quits cricket to do what the Lord wants. Well, the Lord wants him to play cricket.
Did you get a revelation from Allah???
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Old 10th July 2012, 01:48
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Did you get a revelation from Allah???
That's what written all over twitter bro. No hard feelings.
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That's what written all over twitter bro. No hard feelings.
No offence brother and with all due respect to you, if someone says a statement that doesn't make sense or something, don't repeat/share it if it makes no logical sense.
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Old 10th July 2012, 01:57
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He'll regret it later.

Unless of course he just doesn't want to play anymore.
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Old 10th July 2012, 02:02
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No offence brother and with all due respect to you, if someone says a statement that doesn't make sense or something, don't repeat/share it if it makes no logical sense.
It's called a sentimental expression.

Let me don't get into religion stuff, because, technically, no-one has been contacted by God yet, till date. It's all human expression.
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Old 10th July 2012, 02:25
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It's called a sentimental expression.

Let me don't get into religion stuff, because, technically, no-one has been contacted by God yet, till date. It's all human expression.
Have you heard about a Prophet called "Moses"(Musa AS) or have you read in detail history Prophet Muhammed PBUH.. If you have than I'm willing to discuss with you on this topic.as long as you talk with facts..
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Have you heard about a Prophet called "Moses"(Musa AS) or have you read in detail history Prophet Muhammed PBUH.. If you have than I'm willing to discuss with you on this topic.as long as you talk with facts..
No.

No.

In this case, Taibu is christian so how do you proclaim that he meant Allah and not Lord. And if you believe Allah = Lord (Christian lord), then there is whole new opening a can of worms ...

... then I will be ignorant and I will say first explain me how do God contact from outer space to human. And why specific one human or several humans .. why not all. Why don't god contact me right now tell me 'stop typing this post, I order you to do so'.

All of us are believing in religions which is being told by Humans. It's a philosophy. God hasn't spoken to anyone, and if God has then there should have been only ONE religion on the Earth. Since there are many perceptions by humans, ergo there are many religions.

Anyway, I won't respond much anymore on this topic, because this talk is pointless. I would rather believe in philosophy (written/told by great humans) than religions. Because when you get into religions that's when the 'laws and hypocrisy' get in. Like 'Do this or god will be angry' 'Pray for these much then and only then you will be God's fav.'

When God makes contact to you please let us all know and share. (With proof of course)
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Old 10th July 2012, 02:52
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No.

No.

In this case, Taibu is christian so how do you proclaim that he meant Allah and not Lord. And if you believe Allah = Lord (Christian lord), then there is whole new opening a can of worms ...

... then I will be ignorant and I will say first explain me how do God contact from outer space to human. And why specific one human or several humans .. why not all. Why don't god contact me right now tell me 'stop typing this post, I order you to do so'.

All of us are believing in religions which is being told by Humans. It's a philosophy. God hasn't spoken to anyone, and if God has then there should have been only ONE religion on the Earth. Since there are many perceptions by humans, ergo there are many religions.

Anyway, I won't respond much anymore on this topic, because this talk is pointless. I would rather believe in philosophy (written/told by great humans) than religions. Because when you get into religions that's when the 'laws and hypocrisy' get in. Like 'Do this or god will be angry' 'Pray for these much then and only then you will be God's fav.'

When God makes contact to you please let us all know and share. (With proof of course)

Well if you don't know about religion then please don't claim

"Let me don't get into religion stuff, because, technically, no-one has been contacted by God yet, till date. It's all human expression."

you made a general expression about God, you never stated anything in regards to a specific religion, so don't make a general statement if you can not back it up because you have not done your due diligence about religion.
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Old 10th July 2012, 03:12
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Well if you don't know about religion then please don't claim

"Let me don't get into religion stuff, because, technically, no-one has been contacted by God yet, till date. It's all human expression."

you made a general expression about God, you never stated anything in regards to a specific religion, so don't make a general statement if you can not back it up because you have not done your due diligence about religion.
You quoted to poster when word 'Lord' was used. And you asked Did Allah give that revelation? Now, how can you claim Allah = Lord (used by Christians).

I may not know religion, but I understand the main aim of every religions. I don't nit-pick.
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Old 10th July 2012, 03:41
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Old 10th July 2012, 03:59
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You quoted to poster when word 'Lord' was used. And you asked Did Allah give that revelation? Now, how can you claim Allah = Lord (used by Christians).

I may not know religion, but I understand the main aim of every religions. I don't nit-pick.
Because my guess was that the poster in question's religion is Islam, judging by his name, hence I said when he used "Lord" (being a Muslim, we have only one Lord (Allah)) hence i asked him if Allah SWT revealed that to you.

and in respect to your question "how can you claim Allah = Lord (used be Christians)" well if you dig deep into Bible, even though you will come to know that it talks about Allah as their Lord, which has been twisted and turned upside down by various writers, because even in their books (the ones who hold even a minute originality) claim that Lord is one , hence no Son, etc. that in itself is another topic.

If you don't know religion then how do you know their main aim? what is the main aim of Hindusim? just for curiosity sakes, since you claim to know main aim of each religion.

Please refrain from making general statements, you were the one who said that God never spoke to man (you never said Lord, or anything specific). If you dig into religion, and I urge you to do so, you will find that all religion talk about one God, even Bible, even hindu scriptures and even Quran. So when you say "God never spoke to man" than i brought to your attention that you were wrong on that count. Whereas in history it is proved that God indeed talked to both Prophet Moses and Muhammed PBUH.

Please don't give statements about something you don't have much knowledge about because you have already admitted you don't know much about religion.

P.S. I have nothing against my respected brother Azlan, i just pointed it out to him because statement he made (though he later clarified was just copy/pasted form twitter) is not right to make.

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Old 10th July 2012, 04:26
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Old 10th July 2012, 07:00
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Whereas in history it is proved that God indeed talked to both Prophet Moses and Muhammed PBUH.
It is not 'proved' in history. You cant prove something like that. Which is fine because it's not supposed to be based on proof but on faith. It's something believers have faith in. But not everyone is going to share the same faith so you cant really win any debates with this.

Anyway, quit with the religious debate everyone, this is Pakpassion, not the Pak Religion Debate Forun.

If he feels he's got a calling from a God then it's up to him and nobody else to decide what he wants to do with his life.
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Old 10th July 2012, 07:11
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It is not 'proved' in history. You cant prove something like that. Which is fine because it's not supposed to be based on proof but on faith. It's something believers have faith in. But not everyone is going to share the same faith so you cant really win any debates with this.

Anyway, quit with the religious debate everyone, this is Pakpassion, not the Pak Religion Debate Forun.

If he feels he's got a calling from a God then it's up to him and nobody else to decide what he wants to do with his life.
Brother, it is mentioned in Bible as well that God spoke to Moses AS, though some descriptions in it differs. So, I have multiple sources which I use as "proof" but if you talk about "technicality" then first of all define technically what is proof? is proof what media shows or what is revealed.

Anways, my intention was not to stir up argument, I just replied because a poster who admits he does not have much detail about religion makes a religious statement, therefore I replied.

By no means do I intend to stir up any argument or any ill feeling, but I feel if someone makes a religious claim, i have the due responsibility to reply. that is all.
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Brother, it is mentioned in Bible as well that God spoke to Moses AS, though some descriptions in it differs. So, I have multiple sources which I use as "proof" but if you talk about "technicality" then first of all define technically what is proof? is proof what media shows or what is revealed.
The Bible also says Jesus is the son of God; I guess that "proves" Jesus was the Son of God yeh?
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The Bible also says Jesus is the son of God; I guess that "proves" Jesus was the Son of God yeh?
Brother, do you know in Bible it says Adam, Abraham, and many other by name are mentioned as Son of God, so in essence all those who are led by the spirit of God (belief, faith in God) are claimed to be son of God. So if a person is a righteous person, than he is Son of God. That is basically the language of the Bible.

So as far as calling Son of God to a righteous person, I do agree that Jesus AS (a righteous person, calling to Allah SWT) he is Son of God.

BUT, where it all goes wrong is that Christian missionaries say that he is not a normal son, but the "begotten" son, (even the top most knowledgeable people Christian scholors admit this "begotten" word is fabrication and is thrown out of the Bible. because "begotten" is used to mean it belongs to an anxin of animals of a lower level (ie,child that is given birth)

Having said that, I by no mean agree with 100% stuff in Bible cz it as been tampered and changed with a lot.
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Unlike ending in Jail sentence, this is much better way for quiting cricket. I see A great example of sacrifice here of criketing career by Taibu in name of God. God will give him prize for this with lots of blessing. I wish he becomes good navigator to enlighten the path for all the blinds.
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Old 10th July 2012, 08:13
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True, but Allah can bring him up any time.
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what is the guarantee that he will remain alive after playing cricket 5-10 years? infact is there any guarantee that any person will remain alive to see the next day?
That is very true, but then why not drop everything and start to preach from day one? Why bother playing cricket for so many number of years to get to this level and leave it in your prime. I just feel God has blessed him with this talent that he can do a lot of good with. He can donate a percentage of his cricket income to religious causes, or help set up cricket camps to promote healthy and active living and keep kids off the street living a life of crime, and tie in religious morals to that. Again as I stated before, this is a personal decision and I guess we don't have the right to judge. But I just hope he does not regret it 5 years from now when he can't play cricket anymore.
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What a waste of a good cricketer. He's got his whole life to be a vicar. I agree with one of the comments above that Taibu is just looking for an out.
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Brother, do you know in Bible it says Adam, Abraham, and many other by name are mentioned as Son of God, so in essence all those who are led by the spirit of God (belief, faith in God) are claimed to be son of God. So if a person is a righteous person, than he is Son of God. That is basically the language of the Bible.

So as far as calling Son of God to a righteous person, I do agree that Jesus AS (a righteous person, calling to Allah SWT) he is Son of God.

BUT, where it all goes wrong is that Christian missionaries say that he is not a normal son, but the "begotten" son, (even the top most knowledgeable people Christian scholors admit this "begotten" word is fabrication and is thrown out of the Bible. because "begotten" is used to mean it belongs to an anxin of animals of a lower level (ie,child that is given birth)

Having said that, I by no mean agree with 100% stuff in Bible cz it as been tampered and changed with a lot.
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my dear respected brother, i will cut this conversation right here, because for some reason i feel as though you were offended by my last comment, and Allah hu alim, my intention is not to offend/hurt anyone, so I will cut it here. If i did offend you, i apologize

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^^ No, what happened ?
As he walked on to the pitch the crowds were in hysterics as he was so small and looked about 10 years old. I think they couldn`t believe that someone so small was playing international cricket.
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Old 10th July 2012, 19:23
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my dear respected brother, i will cut this conversation right here, because for some reason i feel as though you were offended by my last comment, and Allah hu alim, my intention is not to offend/hurt anyone, so I will cut it here. If i did offend you, i apologize
Dude I'm not a Christian, why would I be offended.

I didnt respond because I dont want to derail the thread, this is a cricket forum after all.
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Good player but also very outspoken - he has had his confrontations with the board on numerous occasions. He claimed last year that the players weren't getting paid.

Just a bit more insight on Zimbabwean cricket if anyone's interested...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe...ry/568948.html

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Ozias Bvute has resigned as managing director of Zimbabwe Cricket (ZC) but has declared his intention to stay involved in the game in the future. Bvute, who was appointed after Vincent Hogg resigned in 2004, has been replaced by his deputy Wilfred Mukondiwa.

"I have relished the job for the last few years and look forward to remaining involved in the years to come, albeit in a different capacity," Bvute said in a ZC release. "The next phase is to ensure that our team becomes consistently competitive and I have every confidence in Mr Mukondiwa's ability to take up this challenge."

Bvute has been involved in ZC for close to 12 years. He first joined in 2001 as part of the Integrated Task Force that was set up to develop a strategy that would make cricket a more representative sport in Zimbabwe. Prior to the 2000s, cricket in the country was the domain of the minority white population and ZC appointed a team to look into how they could create opportunities for black African players to reach the highest level.

The aggressive transformation programme which followed was not received well in all quarters and a walkout of white players in 2004 crippled Zimbabwean cricket. Hogg resigned in the aftermath and Bvute took over with the task of rebuilding the sport. Zimbabwe had to field a squad of inexperienced players and their results worsened leading to Bvute and Peter Chingoka, the chairman of ZC, campaigning for Zimbabwe to withdraw from Test cricket.

The country went into self-imposed exile for close to five years. The beginning of that period also coincided with economic collapse in Zimbabwe as a whole. As the political situation improved and investors returned to the country, albeit in small numbers with small amounts of money, ZC was able to secure funding.

They revamped their domestic set-up in 2009 and introduced a franchise system. They were also able to reintegrate many of the players who had previously abandoned the sport. Alistair Campbell became chairman of the cricket committee, Heath Streak was named national bowling coach and Grant Flower came out of retirement to play for a while before taking up the role of batting coach. Foreign players and coaches also showed an interest in the country with the likes of Jason Gillespie, Lance Klusener and Nick Compton coaching and playing in the franchise system.

It was through the new structures that Zimbabwe began to prepare for a Test return. They played numerous series against the A sides of countries such as New Zealand, Australia and South Africa and made their Test return last August, beating Bangladesh in Harare. Zimbabwe have subsequently struggled, losing to Pakistan and New Zealand (both home and away) and they have not achieved the desired results in the limited-overs versions either but are producing players that promise better days are in sight.

Two issues remain: their schedule and their financial status. As matters currently stand, Zimbabwe will not play another Test this year. They were due to host Bangladesh in August but asked that the tour be postponed because scarifying work needs to take place at the grounds in Harare and Bulawayo. The October date they suggested to the BCB was rejected because Bangladesh will be engaged in their own domestic competition, so the series looks set for April 2013.

The ongoing Twenty20 tri-series also featuring South Africa and Bangladesh will be their primary preparation for the World Twenty20 in September. They also have a fifty-over tri-series in July against South Africa A and Sri Lanka A scheduled but their next engagement on the FTP is to host Pakistan in January next year for two Tests, three ODIs and two T20s.

While in a financially stronger position than they were before, ZC is by no means awash with cash. They made losses on all three incoming tours last year, something that was expected because the costs of hosting do not offset the gains made on television rights sales. As a further indication of how cash-careful they have to be, the current tri-series was initially not destined for television screens because of cost but Bangladesh's inclusion changed that.

The player contract situation appears to have stabilised though, after Tatenda Taibu claimed they had not been paid last year. Central contracts have now been issued and rumblings about outstanding match fees have disappeared. ZC have also managed to secure various sponsors, something that Bvute may continue to assist them with. He is moving on to corporate job but will provide consultancy services to ZC, particularly pertaining to the commercial aspects of the game.
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GREAT loss to team zimbabwe

anyway

all the best to his future
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