Ijaz Butt sees a return of indiscipline in the team

[Asif321]

KARACHI: The indiscipline and dressing-room disunity that was curbed during his tenure is likely to make a comeback in the Pakistan team, according to former Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt.

Butt served as the board’s chief from 2008 to 2011 and claimed to have abolished player-power during his tenure. In his tenure, the PCB handed out several bans and fines relating to discipline and underperforming issues, including the action against seven cricketers including Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal and Shoaib Malik after the winless tour of Australia in 2010-11.

Butt, while referring to Kamran’s return to the national squad for the 2012 World Twenty20, said that the players against whom the board took action in the past are being recalled and that might promote player-power again.

“I’ve heard that discipline issues are creeping up in the team again,” Butt told The Express Tribune. “I took strict action against the players involved but now they’re being recalled that may create a similar situation again. For instance, the decision to recall Kamran, who was sidelined during my tenure because of indiscipline, is a strange one. When he was dropped after poor performance in a Test against Australia, Umar feigned injury to protest against his brother’s omission. We took strict action against both and such decisions helped us curb player-power.

“Even if we persisted with them because of their ability, we kept a strict eye on them. Now, with the same people in the squad, it may give birth to groupings once again. I can’t advise the current board and it is up to them to control things in the best possible manner. All I can do is to wish the board and the chairman luck and hope that they handle it the right way.”

‘Snubbing Junaid a criminal act’

Meanwhile, the former PCB chief questioned the selection for next month’s World Twenty20, criticising the move to omit left-arm fast bowler Junaid Khan.

“It was a criminal act to snub the youngster,” said Butt. “Junaid was sensational during the recent tour of Sri Lanka where our other pacers failed. He showed good signs for the future but the snub will surely dent his confidence. The chief selector (Iqbal Qasim) is a responsible person and I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under that forced him to take such an unjustified decision and ignore the talent.”

Qasim, meanwhile, had clarified the decision to ignore the left-armer, saying that he preferred Umar Gul and Mohammad Sami following a request by the team management and Twenty20 captain Mohammad Hafeez.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 1st, 2012.

[Pakistanpassion]

dude he got nothing to do? making dumb statements.

[Usman]

The reason players were creating groups and divides is because at that time, the captaincy was a game of musical chairs, almosy every player thought that it was their God-given right and almost every player tried to undermine the captain. However things changed with Misbah - he has the respect of the team through his performances. Whether Hafeez can do the same only time will tell.

More than indiscipline, I'm actually against the selection of Kamran and Malik on performance grounds. Both are pathetic.

[w8in_4_0402]

So umars only downfall is that he's the brother of kami thats why he can't play to full potential.

[Afridirocks]

he should sthu now

[Amoeba]

The man might be a tool in other regards but he talks sense here. The Akmals are a cancer in the team. No reason why a failure like Kamran should be back in the team. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Amoeba The man might be a tool in other regards but he talks sense here. The Akmals are a cancer in the team. No reason why a failure like Kamran should be back in the team. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

Totally agree

[Rizwan25]

Chawal ko ab akaaal ai haay

[Bilal7]

Atleast the Akmals bring something positive to the team, via their performances. Shoaib Malik has been a failure at international level for almost as long as I can remember. With Hafeez, who is an exact copy in the team and performing reasonably, I don't see why Malik was selected.

Being in Afridi's bad books isn't going to help things either who is another proven politician.

[nafaiz]

he did not take any action for umar akmal feigning an injury as a protest for non-selection of kami in australia... he should have acted strictly removed both akmal brothers from the team and ban them from selection for an indefinite period ... instead he made a crap removing all other big names... yk stripped of from captaincy, moyo banned for no reason (just for losing an overseas series).. he went crap this bloody belly meat guy (shoekeeper)... removed the experinced players when the team badly needs them and sent a yng team to eng whr all drama came... come on old fatty bumbo go take rest..., barking dogs seldom bite..., if he has shown his iron hand against akmals, then this spot fixing saga wouldn't have occured... he helped alongside them...

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by nafaiz he did not take any action for umar akmal feigning an injury as a protest for non-selection of kami in australia... he should have acted strictly removed both akmal brothers from the team and ban them from selection for an indefinite period ... instead he made a crap removing all other big names... yk stripped of from captaincy, moyo banned for no reason (just for losing an overseas series).. he went crap this bloody belly meat guy (shoekeeper)... removed the experinced players when the team badly needs them and sent a yng team to eng whr all drama came... come on old fatty bumbo go take rest..., barking dogs seldom bite..., if he has shown his iron hand against akmals, then this spot fixing saga wouldn't have occured... he helped alongside them...

I don't see what role the Akmals played in the spot-fixing saga.

[shahzadatr]

It was a criminal act to name Ijaz Butt as chairman

[AamchiMumbaikar]

That photo was a killer..... :rofl

[gazza619]

Junaid cant control the old ball..i havent seen him being effective at all in ODI's and T20's..

having said that, M Sami has never played to his potential and is a possible risk...

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by gazza619 Junaid cant control the old ball..i havent seen him being effective at all in ODI's and T20's.. having said that, M Sami has never played to his potential and is a possible risk...

Junaid has not played enough matches at all and still has a decent bowling average in all three formats. He does handle the old ball well too.

Sami is good enough for LOIs, with his pace and all but not someone you would pick over Junaid. Not to mention the age difference and future benefits of picking one over the other.

[Raz]

“I’ve heard that discipline issues are creeping up in the team again,” Butt told The Express Tribune. “I took strict action against the players involved but now they’re being recalled that may create a similar situation again.

What discipline issues? Kamran hasn't even done anything yet! The squad hasn't even got together yet!

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by Asif321 “I’ve heard that discipline issues are creeping up in the team again,” Butt told The Express Tribune. “I took strict action against the players involved but now they’re being recalled that may create a similar situation again. For instance.... “Even if we persisted with them because of their ability, we kept a strict eye on them. Now, with the same people in the squad

Contradiction much?

[Zamee]

Why is that when these weirdos are not in power they tend to talk some sense??

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Junaid has not played enough matches at all and still has a decent bowling average in all three formats. He does handle the old ball well too. Sami is good enough for LOIs, with his pace and all but not someone you would pick over Junaid. Not to mention the age difference and future benefits of picking one over the other.

Sami is good enough ? Are u in your right senses? lol Remember the 4th Odi against Sirilanka where Malcom Sami lost us the match single-handedly.

[LastLaugh_PK]

Lol people comparing Sami and Junaid.. Sami cannot be half the bowler that Junaid is even if he had 10 lives..

Sami is as pathetic as they come.. I am sure if an average gully fast bowler is given the ball in an international match he would do better than Sami.

When the opposition sees Sami in our team they have a sense of surety that atleast his 10 overs would go for around 90 with just one wicket max.

[Singham]

Where is Wahab Riaz? Poor management by Pakistanis.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Raz What discipline issues? Kamran hasn't even done anything yet! The squad hasn't even got together yet!

lol

[testcricketisbest]

this clown was pcb chief was saddest thing ever happened to Pakistan cricket.

PCB chief should be looking after admin and political issues and not meddle with player selection , why are selectors there then if clowns like him are dictating which player is in the team.

[Asif321]

Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar That photo was a killer..... :rofl

look in his glasses ... u will see shrad powar

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Contradiction much?

Jahaaz must have forgot his pills !

Jahaaz is someone whose credibility on anything Pakistan cricket related is zilch.

Only once in a blue moon does he say something remotely intelligent.

This is the man who said Shane Warne should be hanged upside down for making a World Cup prediction.

This is the man who called Shoaib Akhtar's book bullsh!t in public.

This is the man who accused the England cricket team of match fixing.

This is the man who fell asleep in ICC meetings

This is the man who gave one of the stupidest interviews in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xZT6vndENTg

This is the man who regularly quarrelled with journalists - Na sir honday na pair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cxGPZ0rw4wM

[Zaz]

Yes kamran and malik etc should be as far as away as the team as possible but for I Butt to say that he curbed indiscipline during his tenure is laughable

Indiscipline was rife and at its highest whilst the great I Butt was in charge

[Canistani Hero]

Aray Butt saab

[LastLaugh_PK]

His name so gracefully decribes him.. Butt is a total butt!

[The Muppets XI]

what is he talking about.

He allowed Kamran to keep walking back into the team after his so called ban. First he went to the T20 WC 2010/came to England 2010. Then got booted. After a short hiatus he was recalled for New Zealand 2010/11 & ODI WC. All under his Chairmanship. The recall of Malik was also a last act under his watch. Wish the ones mouthing off had practiced what they are now preaching during their own tenure.

[disc]

Originally Posted by Amoeba The man might be a tool in other regards but he talks sense here. The Akmals are a cancer in the team. No reason why a failure like Kamran should be back in the team. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

completely agree with you, I did not like Butt but you need to have control of the team with them playing for the country and not groups vs groups within the team

[Sunny786]

Why is everyone whining about Kamran Akmal's comeback? He is a good addition to the T20 team. We've all seen his replacements, no one come's close to him in terms of his batting. And regarding his keeping, I'm sure he's worked on it while he was out of the team. And it's T20 anyway, the keeping won't be an issue.

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by Zamee Sami is good enough ? Are u in your right senses? lol Remember the 4th Odi against Sirilanka where Malcom Sami lost us the match single-handedly.

Sami is good enough for LOIs. He was pretty decent on the Sri Lankan tour generally and was pathetic in that one match.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Sami is good enough for LOIs. He was pretty decent on the Sri Lankan tour generally and was pathetic in that one match.

One match, huh? Story of his life.

[TalhaSyed]

Does he mean he sees himself returning to the Pakistani cricket board

[LastLaugh_PK]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Sami is good enough for LOIs. He was pretty decent on the Sri Lankan tour generally and was pathetic in that one match.

He single handedly lost us that series. End of story.

[Lara400]

I've ignored this thread for a few days, entering it will be sin. Im holding my tongue back in this month, but boy does this so and so warrant a right earsome, the nerve of this being.

Sent Pak cricket back a good ten years, this pathetic excuse.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Sami is good enough for LOIs. He was pretty decent on the Sri Lankan tour generally and was pathetic in that one match.

Nah he was awful in the first T20 also.
I dont know when you people will realize he is utter crap
Remember the T20 against Aussies in WC where David Hussey ripped him apart??

[saad1024]

Lol when did he see 'discipline' get installed in our team?

[ehjaz]

Please! why waste such precious space on a thread about that clown????

[FusedBulb]

Read between the lines...
He is simply saying that he should be brought back as the PCB chief. I know he wants it bad !!

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by Zamee Nah he was awful in the first T20 also. I dont know when you people will realize he is utter crap Remember the T20 against Aussies in WC where David Hussey ripped him apart??

He's mediocre overall but good enough for LOIs. The closest thing we have to a 'fast' bowler.

[Usman]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 He's mediocre overall but good enough for LOIs. The closest thing we have to a 'fast' bowler.

Don't you think that he's also lost his only weapon, his pace? In the beginning, Pak would justify his selection on the basis that whilst he doesn't perform, at least he's matching Akther for pace. Now he's at Gul's pace of around 82-83mph and he's still spreading the ball all over the wicket.

For that reason, I don't understand when people say he's our only 'fast' bowler, because everyone apart from Sohail Tanvir is matching him for pace. The only difference is that out of everyone, he has the least brain and accuracy.

[Usman]

Edit: Double post.

[MRSN]

Originally Posted by Amoeba The man might be a tool in other regards but he talks sense here. The Akmals are a cancer in the team. No reason why a failure like Kamran should be back in the team. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

How can you call all the Akmals cancer?. Kamran Akmal may be bad keeper or people may question his performances but Adnan Akmal has been terrific in tests and Umar Akmal no doubt has been a kind of match winner for us in LOI's.

Some people really need to grow up and stop hating Umar and Adnan just because they are brothers of Kamran Akaml.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by MRSN How can you call all the Akmals cancer?. Kamran Akmal may be bad keeper or people may question his performances but Adnan Akmal has been terrific in tests and Umar Akmal no doubt has been a kind of match winner for us in LOI's. Some people really need to grow up and stop hating Umar and Adnan just because they are brothers of Kamran Akaml.

Only Adnan is a decent cricket. Other two are prime example of flashy bits n pieces cricketers.

[MRSN]

Originally Posted by Zamee Only Adnan is a decent cricket. Other two are prime example of flashy bits n pieces cricketers.

coming from a guy who rates Fawad Alam highly.. should I take it serious?No

[MRSN]

if it was not for Sami he'd have been man of the match even in his last game.talking about Umar akmal.The guy keeps playing winning knocks in every 3rd game.Look at his avg. is about 40 and strike rate 85 and unlike fawad he doesn't have many n/o's and bats at 5/6 mostly which is a very tough place to bat,only very good cricketers secure such place look at Bevan,Hussey,now Raina,Flintoff all these guys did similar to Umar Akmal and are rated highly.but it's hard to satisfy a hater so there's a saying haters gonna hate

[LastLaugh_PK]

Originally Posted by MRSN coming from a guy who rates Fawad Alam highly.. should I take it serious?No

Typical fans of Bradman 2.0

[Executioner]

I think the present Pakistan team looks well disciplined under misbah-ul-haq. Despite the negativity he brings he is the one to lead the team not someone like afridi.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by MRSN coming from a guy who rates Fawad Alam highly.. should I take it serious?No

Fawad can become a better wicket-keeper than Kamran and surely there are no brain-farts in his case plus he doesn't fake a back injury in order to keep his favorite player in the team ;)
Seems good enough to rate him above these clowns trust me

[disc]

Fawad has a wicket-keeper?

[MRSN]

Originally Posted by disc Fawad has a wicket-keeper?

yeah he is now Gilchrist 2.0

[LastLaugh_PK]

Fawad Alam is the best cricketer to ever live.. He can bat blinded folded using his wrong hand and still score a century of 16 balls.. He can bowl off-spin the kind of which Murali and Ajmal can only dream off.. and add to that his amazing fielding ability.. Some say Jhonty Rhodes grew up watching videos of Fawad field..

[Akmal Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Amoeba The man might be a tool in other regards but he talks sense here. The Akmals are a cancer in the team. No reason why a failure like Kamran should be back in the team. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

When did akmals steal your chicken?