comparing Amir Sohail and Saeed Anwar

[waqar_ahmad]

both formed a very good opening pair. But who do u think was better

[coolgangsta]

ones a tos**r (sohail) the other isnt!

[Officer Barbrady]

Anwar quite obviously. A natural and a far superior talent in every sense and our most talented batsman of the 90s after Inzi.

Aamir was a decent player who has a very good run for two or three years.

[khilari]

r u serious?

[the_game]

Anwar carried Sohail to be honest. When Anwar was dismissed early, Sohail would fail to build any momentum at the start. It would be interesting to see stats on how well Sohail did once Anwar was dismissed early (which was quite rare during the mid-90's!).

[Officer Barbrady]

Originally Posted by khilari r u serious?

of course

[omorst7]

After reading thread, I m thinking [B]about posting another thread that is "[U] compare waqar and Aqib. who is best

[Pathan007]

whateva it was but they were the most successful openers ever to opened for Pakistan. nowadays all these openers are crap.

[Ilyas]

Amer Sohail was a better All-Rounder and Leader than Saeed Anwar...

Saeed Anwar was much better team player because of very good sense of humor...

Amer Sohail on the other hand was kind of a chili and serious guy...

Both were incredible batsmen, but Saeed Anwar was slightly more dependable...

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Ilyas Amer Sohail was a better All-Rounder and Leader than Saeed Anwar... Saeed Anwar was much better team player because of very good sense of humor... Amer Sohail on the other hand was kind of a chili and serious guy... Both were incredible batsmen, but Saeed Anwar was slightly more dependable...

my views exactly Ilyas. No doubt Saeed Anwar was a better player but I think Amir Sohail was a better leader and mentally a much tougher guy than Saeed Anwar. I think thats y they formed such a good pair, one was talented but the other guy was tougher and could take more pressure i think

[tspower]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad my views exactly Ilyas. No doubt Saeed Anwar was a better player but I think Amir Sohail was a better leader and mentally a much tougher guy than Saeed Anwar. I think thats y they formed such a good pair, one was talented but the other guy was tougher and could take more pressure i think

Mental toughness is illustrated in your control over your emotions and Amir Sohail used to lose his cool every now and then during matches.

There was never any comparison between the GREAT SAEED ANWER and aamir .

[lahori]

Cricinfo Stats guru comparison is below (First row is Aamir's stats and 2nd row is Anwar's):

TESTS

overall               
Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
47  2823 205   35.28   5  13  25  4/54   41.96  0  36  0
55  4052 188*  45.52  11  25   0   -       -    0  18  0

ODIS

overall
Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St
156  4780 134   31.86   5  31  85  4/22   43.56  0  49  0
247  8823 194   39.21  20  43   6  2/9    31.83  0  42  0

Saeed Anwar owns Aamir Sohail

[The_Cricket_Devil]

Altho Saeed Anwar is better by stats when Aamir Sohail was around he was my fav player and i have actually built my batting style around his: high backlift long stretch of footwork and wahtnot

[Ilyas]

Why Saeed Anwar got out in Bangalore Quarter-Final World Cup 1996: Because of Mr. 10%...

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Ilyas Why Saeed Anwar got out in Bangalore Quarter-Final World Cup 1996: Because of Mr. 10%...

didnt get it. what does that mean

[waqar_ahmad]

I always liked Aamir. Now im not saying that he was a more talented batsman tht Saeed Anwar, but I think he was a more intense player and more of a leader. But Saeed Anwar was definitely a better batsman, no doubt about that

[cavin420]

before FREEEDi came into the action!!! SAEED ANWAR USED TO BE THE BEAST FOR US....i still remember imran khan used to drop anwar coz he used socre too quickly for his liking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nisarafridi]

i think anwar was the best batsman pakistan ever have in openning, when he first came to cricket he was not able to score big runs but as the time passed. he has really provided good inning and most of the time helped pakistan to the victory. he is for sure better than amir , and he world record of194 is still not broken.

[Usman Chadda]

One a legend, the other a bad-mouthed moron.

[nafajafam]

Anwar is a legend, but Sohail was not bad either. Had Pakistan won that 96 worldup match versus India, Sohail would be a legend too!!

[Invictus]

Anwar by a mile.

[UJ]

Saeed Anwar was a better batsman because of his ability to attack and take the game away from opposition.

[KB]

Anwar was an artist, Sohail was more of butcher. Thus, I always preferred watching the graceful Anwar.

Sohail - though not in Anwar's class - was a good batsman, who played some very good innings in tough conditions. His problem was that he was a bit reckless. He threw his wicket away far too often.

[Easa]

Saeed Anwar was a master.

Sohail is not good enough to dust his shoes.

[cavin420]

i remember in 88/89 they were playing the B&H series in austrailia.......rameez n saeed were opening...........anwar scored a quick centruy n hit a few sixers in the innings off the aussie pacers..it was in melburne i think...its a massive ground ...he hit one of the biggest sixers that i have ever seen just by flicking it on the leg side everyone was amazed how did he do it..i have that game on a vcd somewhere...will try to find it !

[Azam6380]

They were brilliant...such a strong partnership....Only criticism of Sohail was when he got bowled by Prasad after the finger waving incident.....

[Bailan]

Anwar has gone down in the books an opening legend.

Aamir Sohail will always remain a decent pakistani opener ...

that difference is right there!

[Green-Machine]

a comparison????????


It's like comparing the Brazil national football team with Luxembourgs national footbal team!!

(Saeed being Brazil).

What a ridiculous question!!!!! Suhail is a tosseer who is not fit to lace Anwars shoes!! (incidentially, this remark applies to both cricketing abilities and as a person. Suhail is a third-rate person).

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by Ilyas Amer Sohail was a better All-Rounder and Leader than Saeed Anwar... Saeed Anwar was much better team player because of very good sense of humor... Amer Sohail on the other hand was kind of a chili and serious guy... Both were incredible batsmen, but Saeed Anwar was slightly more dependable...

Agreed..

I also feel some people unfairly like to target Sohail and drag him through dirt. He is an eccentric personality but he was still one of the most successful openers for Pakistan. Just because of one game in 96 we cannot declare him the biggest failure in Pakistan Cricket. He had guts, tons of guts.. Thats all I can say .. But Anwar was another class altogether.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Cartman Agreed.. I also feel some people unfairly like to target Sohail and drag him through dirt. He is an eccentric personality but he was still one of the most successful openers for Pakistan. Just because of one game in 96 we cannot declare him the biggest failure in Pakistan Cricket. He had guts, tons of guts.. Thats all I can say .. But Anwar was another class altogether.

agreed cartman. Saeed Anwar was no doubt a more talented batsman, a class apart. But Aamir Sohail had guts and could withstand pressure. Even in the BAngalore match, he did do veyry well except for that moment of stupidity. on the field, one could see the kind of intensity that he played with. I am a big fan of SOhail just for his mental strength and guts. FOr Saeed Anwar, I dont need to say anything. HE was a class player

[Cartman]

People blame Aamer Sohail for that game though I feel in my eyes, that was the best display of guts any Pakistani batsmen has shown on Indian soil in the history of cricket. We lost that match because Inzi and Ijaz didnt finish the job. Anwar and Sohail had already done their part with most efficiency.
If there was a way I could turn back time, and put others such as Rameez, Miandad, Zaheer etc in the shoes of Anwar and Sohail, I would like to see how they fare.

[waqar_ahmad]

yup. I am glad to read ur post cartman. Its good to know that someone else feels this way too except me. Sohail played with a lot of guts. The guy was just appointed captain 5 minutes before the match wehn Akram decided to pull out. And it was evident to see that he was trying to play a major role, and take the pressure. I can still recall how he was blasting boundries and the Indian crowd was dead silent, not appreciative as usual, of they were witnessing. they gave a very good start. the middle prder failed to do their job. all the others looked totally out of sorts. no wonder they say some of the players had fixed the match. after the start that Anwar and Sohail provided, the middle order really should have finished the job.

[Saj]

Always enjoyed watching these 2 lefties in action. For me they were perfect foils for each other.

Anwar had the flare, the unpredictability, the ability to hit a good length ball out the park if he wanted to, a flick of those strong wrists and the ball would speed to the boundary, used his feet to the spinners and enjoyed dancing down the track to them.

Sohail was more of a gritty customer. A player who did not have the variety of strokeplay that Saeed had, was more orthodox but at times equally effective. A fighter, a player who you wanted on your side rather than the opposition. Had a big backlift llike MY and his double century at Old Trafford was a masterpiece.

[nafajafam]

Originally Posted by Cartman People blame Aamer Sohail for that game though I feel in my eyes, that was the best display of guts any Pakistani batsmen has shown on Indian soil in the history of cricket. We lost that match because Inzi and Ijaz didnt finish the job. Anwar and Sohail had already done their part with most efficiency. If there was a way I could turn back time, and put others such as Rameez, Miandad, Zaheer etc in the shoes of Anwar and Sohail, I would like to see how they fare.

I swear this is what most people fail to see/believe. We had posted 113 in 10 overs or so and yet the middle order failed to do anything. I will say it again, Sohail was the only one who tried to win that game that day. Had he won it, he would be hailed a legend today. He had guts!!

[Cartman]

Didnt he score a double hundred at Lord's too? His backlift resembled Graham Gooch's .. just left handed.. both very stylish players if you ask me.. Sohail's straight drive was a treat to watch when his bat would come down straight from a high backlift and the ball would scream past the bowler to the boundary.. i guess aesthetically they were both different but equally pleasurable to watch nonetheless.

I have to admit I was a bigger fan of Sohail , partly because his heroics during the 92 world cup (specially the crucial match he won us against Australia) and when Anwar broke into the team later on, I still loyally believed Sohail was better. Then of course he started having other problems and fell out , it seemed, with everybody. Anwar, meanwhile, consistently performed and performed and performed and only got better with age. The pinnacle of course that innings of 194 against India and that made a fan out of me.

[Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar]

Saeed was an artist. there was a bit of Wasim in him with respect to how he approached the game. one of our greats... for me, Pakistan's best batsman of the 90s especially in ODIs. and all this despite him being an underachiever of sorts. he could have been the best if his approach was a little different.

Sohail was a good, useful batsman who did okay with his talent. but he was nowhere close to Saeed - talent-wise or performance-wise.

most games, you'd get Sohail throwing the kitchen sink at the ball yet a look at the scorecard would reveal Saeed comfortably outscoring Sohail with his caressed drives and flicked sixes. Saeed was quite a sight with a bat in hand. he is one of the guys (along with people like Wasim and Saqlain) that I really, really miss watching.

[nafajafam]

Nice, so we have quite a few Sohail fans.. I simply loved his 'in your face' attitude when playing. Was pretty sad when he fell out with the pcb managment and certain players.

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by nafajafam I swear this is what most people fail to see/believe. We had posted 113 in 10 overs or so and yet the middle order failed to do anything. I will say it again, Sohail was the only one who tried to win that game that day. Had he won it, he would be hailed a legend today. He had guts!!

Actually Sohail as well as Saeed were the only two who looked like they were playing for that country that day. The way Wasim declared himself unfit, and Waqar and Aaqib got hammered and then Ijaz and Inzi got out, it seemed these two were the only two trying to win that match.

[nafajafam]

Originally Posted by Cartman Actually Sohail as well as Saeed were the only two who looked like they were playing for that country that day. The way Wasim declared himself unfit, and Waqar and Aaqib got hammered and then Ijaz and Inzi got out, it seemed these two were the only two trying to win that match.

It's funny the bowlers dont get the stick for that game, only Sohail does. Waqar got the spanking of his life for bowling pies to Jadeja. No one even mentions the middle order screwing up. All one says is "Sohail ki ghalati thi". Really pisses me off!!

[zaf1986]

Waqar's last over (which went for 22) lost the match for Pakistan

[Somali Pirate]

as a non pakistani,it was just fascinating and beautiful watching anwar bat.He's better than sohail

[kashmiri]

both are heros in their own right.

Why Saeed Anwar got out in Bangalore Quarter-Final World Cup 1996: Because of Mr. 10%...

yup. I am glad to read ur post cartman. Its good to know that someone else feels this way too except me. Sohail played with a lot of guts. The guy was just appointed captain 5 minutes before the match wehn Akram decided to pull out. And it was evident to see that he was trying to play a major role, and take the pressure. I can still recall how he was blasting boundries and the Indian crowd was dead silent, not appreciative as usual, of they were witnessing. they gave a very good start. the middle prder failed to do their job. all the others looked totally out of sorts. no wonder they say some of the players had fixed the match. after the start that Anwar and Sohail provided, the middle order really should have finished the job.

i agree waqar

i still dont understand how was saeed involved in the fixing scandal. was he also accepting bribes?

Sohail was the only one who tried to win that game that day. Had he won it, he would be hailed a legend today. He had guts!!

sohail was awesome that day, it was just that one shot. and the pakistani supporters that night had to melt into the darkness.

it was only jayasuriya and the mighty lankans a few days later which restored some of our pride

[Usman]

In terms of ability, Saeed was miles ahead of Sohail however with Sohail's gritty, in your face attitude, they both became the perfect fold for each other and most certainly produced the greatest opening partnerships Pakistan could have ever wished for. I would definatley say that Saeed Anwar was the better of the two. It was a pity how Sohail fell out with the players and the board though but its only now that they have left that people are finnaly acknoledging there talents!

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by kashmiri both are heros in their own right. i agree waqar i still dont understand how was saeed involved in the fixing scandal. was he also accepting bribes? sohail was awesome that day, it was just that one shot. and the pakistani supporters that night had to melt into the darkness. it was only jayasuriya and the mighty lankans a few days later which restored some of our pride

I dont think so kashmiri. Saees Anwar was not involved in match fixing. It was he along with Aamir Sohail that brought pakistan even close to a chance of a victory. And when they got out, no one did anything. I still remember, i was watching that match, thinking how good those 2 were playing and when we started losing, it really ppissed me off.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by nafajafam It's funny the bowlers dont get the stick for that game, only Sohail does. Waqar got the spanking of his life for bowling pies to Jadeja. No one even mentions the middle order screwing up. All one says is "Sohail ki ghalati thi". Really pisses me off!!

exactly, how does a batsman who belted all the bowlers to all parts, was invlived in an opening stand of over 100 in 12 overs, be blamed for the defeat when none of the other batsmen, including that match fixer salim malik and ijaz, did nothing to helo out team. ANd then waqar i think wa hit for around 40 runs in his last 2 overs by jadeja, who was had no class at all. Akram decides to sit out the match 5 minutes before the start, and they guy who gets the captaincy plays with so much courage and guts, and most of all intensity, and yet that same guy is blamed for everything. total crap

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Cartman Didnt he score a double hundred at Lord's too? His backlift resembled Graham Gooch's .. just left handed.. both very stylish players if you ask me.. Sohail's straight drive was a treat to watch when his bat would come down straight from a high backlift and the ball would scream past the bowler to the boundary.. i guess aesthetically they were both different but equally pleasurable to watch nonetheless. I have to admit I was a bigger fan of Sohail , partly because his heroics during the 92 world cup (specially the crucial match he won us against Australia) and when Anwar broke into the team later on, I still loyally believed Sohail was better. Then of course he started having other problems and fell out , it seemed, with everybody. Anwar, meanwhile, consistently performed and performed and performed and only got better with age. The pinnacle of course that innings of 194 against India and that made a fan out of me.

i am a bigger fan of Sohail too. It was the guts and intensity with which he played. Much more tough mentally than Saeed Anwar. U could see how hard he was trying. ANd he fell out with the board and the players just coz he was hinest enough to say that some players were not honest with the team. I think it was this quarrell that led to his downfall and got the better of him. Otherwise, I think he was a match winner on his day

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by nafajafam Nice, so we have quite a few Sohail fans.. I simply loved his 'in your face' attitude when playing. Was pretty sad when he fell out with the pcb managment and certain players.

yup, it was that attitude that i liked. but it got him into trouble too. But at least he was honest. as i said before, im a bigger fan of him than Saeed ANwar. I remember before the 96 world cup, i was watching a program in which they were discussing the players to watch out for from every team. And the batsman that they talked about from pakistan was Aamir. They didnt talk about Anwar coz Amir was really playing some good cricket at that time.

[sajid_sayal]

Without a shadow of a doubt Saeed Anwar.

[cavin420]

oo stop talking about the quarter final in 96......is even sddens me today we had the best ever side.in the whole of the competition.....n i would go as far as sayin gthe 96 wc side was the best pakistan has ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!!but unfortunatly wasim bhai was up to his old tricks again along with ijaz/malik

[zulfiqar]

Yaar... all this talk about Saeed really touched some strings right in the middle of my heart I really miss these 3 as well: Saeed, Saqlain & Wasim.

I'm going to go watch some old videos now...