The series now has an extra zip/edge - thanks to Chappell and Dravid!

[MIG]

Consider the sequence of events:

1. GC complained about Akhtars action - result ? India crashed to a humiliating defeat - were unable to last more than 60 overs !

2. Now they ran Inzi out and didnt have the decency to apologize, also have created all kinds of impressions about Shoaib - result ? I shudder to think for India !

All said and done, the series is about to explode into another dimension - If I were an Indian player, I would be looking for some extra padding round the upper abdomen area - its gonna be fast, swift and it will hurt - but good news is that the pain will be over very soon!

Regards

MIG

[z10]

just for this reason i would tell sami that chappell doesn't like his hair and watch all hell break lose

[badxhah]

I thought the thread was adding a Extra zip to their Pants...

[the Great Khan]

lol..its gonna backfire....boy are they gonna regret opening their big gobs...from auntie sehwag to the cookie squatter, time to watch the chocolate chips fly...

[Easa]

Trust me, Shoaib will bowl as fast as he possibly can after the countless chucking comments made about his action.

Good news for us, bad news for India!

[MIG]

Originally Posted by z10 just for this reason i would tell sami that chappell doesn't like his hair and watch all hell break lose

Reports are coming in that Khalil is back in training after some disparaging remarks by the Indian coach ( when asked he replied, "who is Khalil?")

[Azam6380]

Originally Posted by z10 just for this reason i would tell sami that chappell doesn't like his hair and watch all hell break lose

[Zeenix]

Too much of JEET LO DIL from our side has indeed spoiled the kids from across the borders, Its high time they are put back where they belong, A LAVATORY

[UJ]

All i can say is that the next four games, regardless of the result will be fiery. Cant Wait!

[Hash]

Exactly. This stupid 'Jeet Lo Dil' theme has gone on for long enough. Forget winning their hearts......it is time to humiliate them, it is time to destroy them, it is time to anhilate them, it is time to crush them, it is time to thrash them etc etc

[amjad_khan]

Originally Posted by Hash Exactly. This stupid 'Jeet Lo Dil' theme has gone on for long enough. Forget winning their hearts......it is time to humiliate them, it is time to destroy them, it is time to anhilate them, it is time to crush them, it is time to thrash them etc etc

Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'.

Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket.

Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending.

Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do.
They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting.

How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish.

Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this.
But then, thats how are we.

[Tupac]

well said amjad, very well said...but you can't question the will the destroy someone in cricket. Wins you bragging rights

[robosapien]

"There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket."
someone needs history lessons here.

"Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause."
ok, so let's focus on the actual thread.

"Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do."
yeah right.

"How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish."
how many? dont know. but u get shabash right away!

[Gasherbrum]

chalo bhai, do you really think that all Pakistanis care about is winning in cricket? give me a break. being a cricket website, you'd have to think people would post on cricket, wouldn't you Amjad seth?

and ofcourse, Tupac, your history of posts does show you would agree with the above. a closet fundo.

[Team Slayer]

i think "amjad khan" has added extra zip/edge to this thread!

tupac, beta, how's the hieny? is it still black and blue? don't see you posting too much since the Karachi test...before that you were posting in every second thread!!

[mkexpress]

You can't mix cricket with politics or economic stability, sport should be kept aside and yes if you want to discuss about the socio-economic balance of india and pakistan this is not the place.

[Ayubi]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

So what do you suggest beta? Not play cricket until we're at the same economic & political level?
kahan kahan se chale aate hai....in fact I know exactly kahan se chale aate hai

[Cartman]

AJ is losing his marbles. Last time I checked this was a cricketing forum.
When AND how did rest of the stuff creep in here?

[Hash]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

This has to be the biggest load of absolute horse manure I have read for a long time. Will reply to it tonight. Have to go to work now.

[Hash]

Before I leave......I will say that Amjad Khan is almost certainly an Indian troll. Here is a post he made on 1st Feb...

'I think India will crush Pakistan in one dayers.......we were lucky enough to won the test....i think our team is not as per their standards. Its just one of those days when good teams fail......thats what happened with india.'

Only an Indian could have such a blinkered perception.

[Ayubi]

Originally Posted by Hash Before I leave......I will say that Amjad Khan is almost certainly an Indian troll. Here is a post he made on 1st Feb... 'I think India will crush Pakistan in one dayers.......we were lucky enough to won the test....i think our team is not as per their standards. Its just one of those days when good teams fail......thats what happened with india.' Only an Indian could have such a blinkered perception.

Master Hash you beat me to it! Was just about to paste "Amjad's" profound 1st ever post!

[Gasherbrum]

look who's saying 'crush' there. where's tupac? still agree with gosht-ki-dukaan?

[Slugger]

Bob should instruct shahid afridi and abdul razzaq to aim slog shots at the fielders' faces!

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

indian troll or not foolish things or not...doesn't matter it's still true...

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen All said and done, the series is about to explode into another dimension - If I were an Indian player, I would be looking for some extra padding round the upper abdomen area - its gonna be fast, swift and it will hurt - but good news is that the pain will be over very soon! Regards MIG

Says who Sharma Jee-in-Green

Me thinks that physical and mental pain tends to go on and on, whenever the Normalcy resumes i.e. Pak vs India series and the regular whuppings start...it's been going on for 50 some years and hopefully will go for another 1050 years. Ameen

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

ha ha ha ha Z10

[MIG]

amjad_khan: your effort to be classed as a trollnuma creature may bear fruit sooner than later...just watch your step... if you have anything useful to contribute to our understanding of cricket - do so, warna, jaltay banno....

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Slugger indian troll or not foolish things or not...doesn't matter it's still true...

You have lost your marbles too Slugger

Are we discussing cricket or what???

Who cares if that is true or not...if India is an economic power or not, I give two cahoots

All this talk of economic superiority is also coming from the same media sources that usually tell us that 'India is a No 2 team and they have several fast bowlers'...

Makes one wonder about all this economic talk and all, doesn't it

[inzidabest]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

dude. its a cricket site.

[GQ]

I've never seen Inzamam so ****** off when he was walking back to the pavilion after that incident in the first ODI. First, allegations on Akhtar's action, now getting Inzamam out this way, its getting personal baby!

[Hammad]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

Well it seems you are too overawed by india..let me take your points one by one:
There not two nations with equal economic power in 1947. Pakistan was the backwater of colonial india, with all the industry and commerce being concentrated in the parts that became india

I terms of per capita income, exports there is still the same gap roughly as it was in 1947. India has exports of close to 70 billion and we 15 billion. taking the size of the country into account this represents the same level of development.

Indians are equally religious, and they have their share of fanatics and fight for it. Ever heard of "genocide" in Gujarat. Of course we should be better because our religion teaches us tolerance where our record in this regard is not upto our ideals.
Just creating backoffice call centers dont make a country rich. Compare india's economic figures with countries like Malysia, Korea, china, Taiwan. Even compare it with south american countries like Mexico and Brazil. Facts are facts. Seems like your are much dazzled by this media hype about india "shinning" and feel good factor, which was rejected by india's own people, who apparently were feeling that "good"!

[cornelius]

Originally Posted by Hash Before I leave......I will say that Amjad Khan is almost certainly an Indian troll. Here is a post he made on 1st Feb... 'I think India will crush Pakistan in one dayers.......we were lucky enough to won the test....i think our team is not as per their standards. Its just one of those days when good teams fail......thats what happened with india.' Only an Indian could have such a blinkered perception.

"we were lucky enough to WON the test..." hahaha ..hmm just one of those days huh?hmmm wonder how many more "such days" u guys can afford.oh and by the way,it wasnt one bad day,it was FIVE bad days barring the first over hahaha.see when england came here for the fist test,we were lke yaawn FIVE DAYS of work?thats not how we play,so we let the eng dominate the game for four days,on the last day it was like we picked the ball and said "oh paanchwa din a gea hai? yawn oh fine,might as well" so we jus lazed around for four days letting the english do the work,on the last day we just picked the ball and decided to destroy them and won the game.test cricket,5 days....phshh but with india,well they just got too excited after that one over,just thought wed give u the full treatment,every day,right up to the end. AND NO INZI DID NOT DELAY DECLARATION COZ HE WAS AFRIAD WE WOULDNT BOWL YOU OUT,IT WAS BECAUSE "SINCE WHEN DID PAKISTAN NEED MORE THAN A DAY TO BOWL OUT INDIA?might as well have some fun",turned out to be too much fun,paanchaway din tak to lay jatay.....lull

[cornelius]

by the way that was for amjad and NOT u hash

[cornelius]

and please,sure the indians batted well in the 2 tests,everyone did,the pitches were too dead,but despite that and despite good performances,india was playing catch up throughout the series.and if cricket is so UNimportant,what the F*** are u doing signing up for a PAKISTAN cricket forum on the net?

[Muddaser]

Originally Posted by Monsee You have lost your marbles too Slugger Are we discussing cricket or what??? Who cares if that is true or not...if India is an economic power or not, I give two cahoots All this talk of economic superiority is also coming from the same media sources that usually tell us that 'India is a No 2 team and they have several fast bowlers'... Makes one wonder about all this economic talk and all, doesn't it

Slugger is also an Indian Troll / Wannabe Pathan At Heart.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by Hammad Well it seems you are too overawed by india..let me take your points one by one: There not two nations with equal economic power in 1947. Pakistan was the backwater of colonial india, with all the industry and commerce being concentrated in the parts that became india I terms of per capita income, exports there is still the same gap roughly as it was in 1947. India has exports of close to 70 billion and we 15 billion. taking the size of the country into account this represents the same level of development. Indians are equally religious, and they have their share of fanatics and fight for it. Ever heard of "genocide" in Gujarat. Of course we should be better because our religion teaches us tolerance where our record in this regard is not upto our ideals. Just creating backoffice call centers dont make a country rich. Compare india's economic figures with countries like Malysia, Korea, china, Taiwan. Even compare it with south american countries like Mexico and Brazil. Facts are facts. Seems like your are much dazzled by this media hype about india "shinning" and feel good factor, which was rejected by india's own people, who apparently were feeling that "good"!

Could not have put it better myself. I would also like to add that more people live below the poverty line (ie, earn less than a dollar a day) in India than the entire population of Pakistan multiplied by two.

But anyway this is a cricket site. If Amjad the Indian troll wants to discuss this in detail he can start a thread in timepass. I am more than happy to systematically rip to shreds any blinkered perception he has of India as a country.

[inzidabest]

Lol.I dont know why some Indian fans just forget that we are here to discuss cricket. There are some other stress reducing sites if you want to try. of course they claim to be fair cricketing sites. go there and your fever will come down

[Tariq Jamshed]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen Consider the sequence of events: 2. Now they ran Inzi out and didnt have the decency to apologize, also

Was that meant as a joke? Last time I checked Inzi got himself out obstructing the field. As for apologies, I would think it should be Inzamam who should consider it for various reasons:

- Arguing with umpires for no reason
- Ignorance of a simple and basic cricket law (that too for a cricket captain)
- Even when the rule is explained to him, still complaining and going on and on about it. Inzi has great qualities as a batsman but it is not funny when he makes a laughing stock of himself in this way.

[DesiMD]

Originally Posted by badxhah I thought the thread was adding a Extra zip to their Pants...

[DesiMD]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen Consider the sequence of events: but good news is that the pain will be over very soon! MIG

why would it be over soon though

[octavian]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen amjad_khan: your effort to be classed as a trollnuma creature may bear fruit sooner than later...just watch your step... if you have anything useful to contribute to our understanding of cricket - do so, warna, jaltay banno....

u can ban them but cant stop them from mutating

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed Was that meant as a joke? Last time I checked Inzi got himself out obstructing the field. As for apologies, I would think it should be Inzamam who should consider it for various reasons: - Arguing with umpires for no reason - Ignorance of a simple and basic cricket law (that too for a cricket captain) - Even when the rule is explained to him, still complaining and going on and on about it. Inzi has great qualities as a batsman but it is not funny when he makes a laughing stock of himself in this way.

Here we go...now Inzi needs to appologize for being given out after an unsportsman like appeal by the MoanIndian team...WOW

[Tariq Jamshed]

In my humble opinion, there was nothing unsporting about it. He was obstructing the field delibrately, and was given out rightly so.

It is rather unsporting though to complain about being given out legally and correctly - in fact I am not sure it even classifies as unsporting. It just doesn't make much sense.

I don't really think anyone needs to aplogize - I was just replying to the original post.

[DesiMD]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed In my humble opinion, there was nothing unsporting about it. He was obstructing the field delibrately, and was given out rightly so. It is rather unsporting though to complain about being given out legally and correctly - in fact I am not sure it even classifies as unsporting. It just doesn't make much sense. I don't really think anyone needs to aplogize - I was just replying to the original post.

i think we need to forget it....even though wat moin said is also rite...that this series was being played for friendship...in this case moin's rite too...otherwise i guess there isn't any prob on this appeal...

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed In my humble opinion, there was nothing unsporting about it. He was obstructing the field delibrately, and was given out rightly so. It is rather unsporting though to complain about being given out legally and correctly - in fact I am not sure it even classifies as unsporting. It just doesn't make much sense. I don't really think anyone needs to aplogize - I was just replying to the original post.

Trvor Chappels roll on the floor delivery was LEGAL, so why on earth did the whole world kick up a big fuss about it? to this day ppl talk about it as being a black mark for cricket? did you agree with that delivery?

[Tariq Jamshed]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Trvor Chappels roll on the floor delivery was LEGAL, so why on earth did the whole world kick up a big fuss about it? to this day ppl talk about it as being a black mark for cricket? did you agree with that delivery?

That was initiated and executed by Aussies. Greg asking his brother to do so.

That has no relevance to this one. Here Inzi delibrately obstructed the ball (damn, played an entire cricket shot!!). Why on earth should a team not appeal for something so obvious and blatant? Nothing unsporting about it at all.

I was watching live when Ramiz was given out obstructing the ball. The moment he did it, I was like, what the hell..he has got himself out! Sure enough, he was soon walking back.

If Inzi is unaware of simple and basic cricket law, he has no one but himself to blame. What was he thinking when he did that.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed That was initiated and executed by Aussies. Greg asking his brother to do so. That has no relevance to this one. Here Inzi delibrately obstructed the ball (damn, played an entire cricket shot!!). Why on earth should a team not appeal for something so obvious and blatant? Nothing unsporting about it at all. I was watching live when Ramiz was given out obstructing the ball. The moment he did it, I was like, what the hell..he has got himself out! Sure enough, he was soon walking back. If Inzi is unaware of simple and basic cricket law, he has no one but himself to blame. What was he thinking when he did that.

Why avoid the issue, just answer me this, did you agree with Chappells on the floor delivery?

[Tariq Jamshed]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Why avoid the issue, just answer me this, did you agree with Chappells on the floor delivery?

I thought I made myself quite clear. The Chappell incident was unsporting. No two ways about it.

Nothing unsporting here. It would be the instinctive reaction of bowler and close fielders to appeal as soon as any batsman is blocking a ball out of his crease (playing a shot to it in this case). I know I certainly would.

What is next? Any batsman can grab the ball in his hands if he can't play it? Then complain it is unsporting if he is given out handled the ball - hopefully Inzamam knows at least about this mode of dismissal.

My advice to Inzamam would be. You did something stupid. Its ok. We all do. Just don't make it even more stupid by complaining about it. Get on with the game.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed I thought I made myself quite clear. The Chappell incident was unsporting. No two ways about it. Nothing unsporting here. It would be the instinctive reaction of bowler and close fielders to appeal as soon as any batsman is blocking a ball out of his crease (playing a shot to it in this case). I know I certainly would. What is next? Any batsman can grab the ball in his hands if he can't play it? Then complain it is unsporting if he is given out handled the ball - hopefully Inzamam knows at least about this mode of dismissal. My advice to Inzamam would be. You did something stupid. Its ok. We all do. Just don't make it even more stupid by complaining about it. Get on with the game.

BUT it was LEGAL

This is what you said as follows

It is rather unsporting though to complain about being given out legally and correctly

So was it unsporting for the cricketing world to complain about something that was legal and correct? or is it plain hypocrisy at play here?


I admit that Inzi is to blame for the dismissal (guess he gave the indians too much credit) BUT it was unsporting for the Indians to appeal when it was clear what his intentions were - anyhow im glad this happened to an extent cos it will give us the mean streak we should have had from the start, the Indian players can shove all this Jeet Lo Dil nonsense where the sun dont shine, now pakistan will be aware that they will go to any lengths to win (Also note bouncers in the dark) its about time we show them no mercy

[Farhad]

"Amjad Khan" seems to be one of those kut kut vut vut Indian guys who slave off in the backrooms of a call-center. Just come here to embarass their mates even more.

[Long_Live_Pakistan]

Originally Posted by amjad_khan Look who is saying all this.'humiliate,destroy,anhilate,crush,thrash'. Do something to lift your country. There were two nations in 1947 with equal economic power. Today one is surging ahead and we are trying to thrash them in cricket. Thats the problem in this country. The focus is always on the incorrect cause. Probably if the same situation goes, within 5 years Indian IT industry will generate a revenue which is equal to Pak's yealy spending. Indian are equally religious as we are....but they don't fight for it....we do. They concentrate on progress and we are concentrating upon backbiting. How many indians are reading this forum where we are trying to humiliate them? Its foolish. Any loud thoughts about if i am a fool......i know most of you will write this. But then, thats how are we.

yeah you are right...cricket should definately not be the priority for india, in modern days.....
they should be more concerned about tuberculosis, malaria and AIDS epidemics that they are distributing all over the world.
and yes they are more religious then us.....genocides against every minority in india are a good supportive evidence in this theory.

[Officer Barbrady]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen I shudder to think for India ! All said and done, the series is about to explode into another dimension - If I were an Indian player, I would be looking for some extra padding round the upper abdomen area - its gonna be fast, swift and it will hurt - but good news is that the pain will be over very soon! Regards MIG

Sadly Shoiab missed out but there wasn't much need to shudder I guess..

[MIG]

Its an attack - run for cover - Marooned pagal hogaya hai !!!