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Old 25th October 2013, 13:07
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Should Kallis call it a day?

He averages 4 in the current series and averages 18 with the bat in the 6 tests he has played during the year. This is his worst batting year since his debut. These are worrying signs for a batsman who has been, by far, the most consistent run maker post -2000.

Not only that but his slip catching is also not as sharp as it used to be, he has already spilled a couple or more catches during this series if i'm not mistaken?

All these are indications of slowing reflexes.

He will probably make pile up the runs against Unadkat/Sharma/Kumar etc. when the Indians visit SA later this year but they have a tough tour of Australia coming up next.

Should Kallis hang up his boots after the Indian series or do you think he can make a comeback?
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:16
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It's important to go out at the top like Greg Chappell, Hadlee and Warne, instead of clinging onto diminishing returns like Gooch, Tendulkar and Ponting.
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:21
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It's important to go out at the top like Greg Chappell, Hadlee and Warne, instead of clinging onto diminishing returns like Gooch, Tendulkar and Ponting.
That's pretty harsh on Gooch and Ponting. In fact Ponting made a double century and century in 2012, his final year in Test cricket.

But yes I wouldn't want Kallis to selfishly cling on like Tendulkar. Kallis is too great a man and player for that.
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:23
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Still got a couple years left in him.
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:27
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It's important to go out at the top like Greg Chappell, Hadlee and Warne, instead of clinging onto diminishing returns like Gooch, Tendulkar and Ponting.
Tendulkar's (and to an extent Dravid's) later matches went a long way towards grooming some of our young batsmen like Kohli and Pujara and is part of the reason for their international success
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:29
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That's pretty harsh on Gooch and Ponting. In fact Ponting made a double century and century in 2012, his final year in Test cricket.

But yes I wouldn't want Kallis to selfishly cling on like Tendulkar. Kallis is too great a man and player for that.
Ponting's record was much, much worse than Sachin's last few years before that inning. If Sachin makes a double century in the WI series would you admit being harsh on him?

Sachin clinging on is why we have Kohli and Pujara successful today. But of course you want Kallis not to spoil his "personal records"just like Sachin sacrificed his "personal"average, the most important record for a test batsman, for the sake of his team
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:35
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No he shouldnt. Not until his average drops below Tendulkar's!

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Old 25th October 2013, 13:45
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Ponting's record was much, much worse than Sachin's last few years before that inning. If Sachin makes a double century in the WI series would you admit being harsh on him?

Sachin clinging on is why we have Kohli and Pujara successful today. But of course you want Kallis not to spoil his "personal records"just like Sachin sacrificed his "personal"average, the most important record for a test batsman, for the sake of his team
You're arguing with a troll. Don't you know his track record?
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:48
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You're arguing with a troll. Don't you know his track record?
lol. I too thought the same. serious reply to troll /known sachin hater like cars, monsee,etc.,
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:51
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lol. I too thought the same. serious reply to troll /known sachin hater like cars, monsee,etc.,
He also believes that Hafeez is a world beater and that Ahmed Sehzad has way more natural talent than Virat Kohli .... and that Inzamam is far better than Sachin
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:52
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He has 2 more tests this year against India at home... He'll score truckload of runs for sure. Bet anyone?
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Old 25th October 2013, 13:57
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He has 2 more tests this year against India at home... He'll score truckload of runs for sure. Bet anyone?
runs against India should not be considered at all. its like scoring runs against minnows. horrible bowling attack.. even club cricketers can score against them.
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Old 25th October 2013, 19:21
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Yes - very few batsmen can continue to perform well once they reach 36/37.
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Old 25th October 2013, 19:39
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runs against India should not be considered at all. its like scoring runs against minnows. horrible bowling attack.. even club cricketers can score against them.
Your few victories in SA have been down to your bowlers and not the great batsmen you have.
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Old 25th October 2013, 19:41
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Must not retire before breaking Tendu's record.
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Old 25th October 2013, 19:54
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He's too old. Not everyone can pull of a Misbah.
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:00
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Hasn't had much match practice guys. He'll come good against India.
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:25
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Your few victories in SA have been down to your bowlers and not the great batsmen you have.
Obviously, it's the bowlers who have picked up the 20 wickets as needed; and the batsmen, who have outscored the opposition. Recipe for a win..
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:47
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In Petersen, Duminy, Elgar and Deu Plesis, SA have got 4 struggling test batsmen in their current squad. Not sure if they would like to have a 5th one added to the list leaving a lot of burden on Smith, Amla and AB.

He's going through a lean patch but expect it to be corrected vs us and the good form to continue in Australia.
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:50
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It's important to go out at the top like Greg Chappell, Hadlee and Warne, instead of clinging onto diminishing returns like Gooch, Tendulkar and Ponting.
+1. Also dont forget Imran Khan and Steve Waugh who go out on top.

Tendulkar I think drag it way longer than Gooch and Ponting. Dont know what he was thinking trying to tarnish his legacy.
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:53
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Yes - very few batsmen can continue to perform well once they reach 36/37.
thats why Misbah is an enigma
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Old 25th October 2013, 20:55
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+1. Also dont forget Imran Khan and Steve Waugh who go out on top.

Tendulkar I think drag it way longer than Gooch and Ponting. Dont know what he was thinking trying to tarnish his legacy.
Ponting had a 6 years of slump. In his last 6 years he was averaging 30s/40s. I don't recall any ATG batsman who batted for 6 years of below average performance before retirement.
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Old 26th October 2013, 15:23
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Has age finally caught up with the best all rounder in the world (currently

Jacques Kallis has been horribly out of form this
In his all 4 innings combined he just scored 12 runs
And went wicket less

Some claim him the best modern day batsman( test average higher than Tendulkar) but alot of people do agree that he is currently best all rounder in all formats of the game..

His nippy bowling alone can get him into Team India

But back to topic ..Has age finally toiling this legend as well
WIll he now retire soon

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Old 26th October 2013, 15:25
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his getting lbw on the trot makes me think he is slowing majorly .
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Old 26th October 2013, 15:39
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It's important to go out at the top like Greg Chappell, Hadlee and Warne, instead of clinging onto diminishing returns like Gooch, Tendulkar and Ponting.
why?
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Old 26th October 2013, 15:49
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Yes he should. Like stat and record obsessed Sachin, Kallis has overstayed his welcome..
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Old 26th October 2013, 16:26
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Re: Should Kallis call it a day?

Nonsense. He has had one bad series. He is allowed one. I back him to come good in the next series whomsoever it will be against.
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Old 26th October 2013, 16:33
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Old 26th October 2013, 16:36
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So now we should advise the greatest all rounder this world has seen on when to retire. While we are it, may be we should give some bowling advice to Steyn, and batting advice to Devilliers as well.
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Old 26th October 2013, 16:38
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Yes he should. Like stat and record obsessed Sachin, Kallis has overstayed his welcome..
hmm, you mean the money hungry moyo who never retires ?
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Old 26th October 2013, 19:22
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Nonsense. He has had one bad series. He is allowed one. I back him to come good in the next series whomsoever it will be against.
Kallis in his last 3 test series -

Against NZ at home - Avg 32

Against Pak at home - Avg 20

Against Pak at UAE - Avg 4

Looks like a decline to me.
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Old 26th October 2013, 19:41
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So now we should advise the greatest all rounder this world has seen on when to retire. While we are it, may be we should give some bowling advice to Steyn, and batting advice to Devilliers as well.
the basis of this forum is give your opinion on anything and everything related to cricket. I wonder what are you doing on this forum if you do not have an opinion about those fine gentlemen
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Old 27th October 2013, 02:24
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That's pretty harsh on Gooch and Ponting. In fact Ponting made a double century and century in 2012, his final year in Test cricket.

But yes I wouldn't want Kallis to selfishly cling on like Tendulkar. Kallis is too great a man and player for that.
please post after a bit of research unless you know cricket I mean.
Ponting averaged a horrible 38 in his last 40 tests!!!!
on the other hand sachin still managed to score at 51 in his last 40 tests, 40 tests is a big enough sample,don't just comment without any base

Gooch had an entire test career of Avg 42,so that is an unfair comparison anyways
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Old 27th October 2013, 03:23
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No he shouldnt. Not until his average drops below Tendulkar's!

This!!!
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Old 27th October 2013, 04:52
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the basis of this forum is give your opinion on anything and everything related to cricket. I wonder what are you doing on this forum if you do not have an opinion about those fine gentlemen
i gave my own opinion..
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Old 27th October 2013, 05:40
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Well yes from Test cricket! He shud focus on ODIs and T20s! Especially the upcoming world cups!
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