Modern-day Espn Legends

[Officer Barbrady]

While watching a couple of available episodes of the famous ESPN legends series I decided to google out the list. Here's the list of modern players:

Modern-day Espn Legends of Cricket

1. Gary Sobers
2. Viv Richards
3. Shane Warne
4. Dennis Lillee
5. Sachin Tendulkar
6. Imran Khan
7. Sunil Gavaskar
8. Ian Botham
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Graeme Pollock
11. Malcolm Marshall
12. Greg Chappell
13. Wasim Akram
14. Kapil Dev
15. Steve Waugh
16. Barry Richards
17. Allan Border
18. C Walsh
19. Mike Procter
20. F Trueman
21. Brian Lara
22. Richie Benaud
23. Joel Garner
24. Andy Roberts
25. Curtly Ambrose
26. Michael Holding
27. Glenn McGrath
28. Javed Miandad
29. Knott
30. Allan Donald

The legends were selected by a panel comprising Ian Chappell, Richie Benaud, Sunil Gavaskar, Dickie Bird, Mike Procter, Michael Holding, Martin Crowe, Wasim Akram, Ian Botham, Allan Border, Sir Richard Hadlee, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Tony Cozier, John Knowles and Robin Marlar."

[Officer Barbrady]

It's not a bad list and some of the most deserving right at the top.

But, the highly questionable ones are Holding and Lara way down the list.

Also, was Benaud really better than Qadir? Tendulkar a little too high up there?

The list is a couple of years old so I guess Gilchrist hadn't made a claim back then.

[zushy_786]

Originally Posted by Marooned It's not a bad list and some of the most deserving right at the top. But, the highly questionable ones are Holding and Lara way down the list. Also, was Benaud really better than Qadir? Tendulkar a little too high up there? The list is a couple of years old so I guess Gilchrist hadn't made a claim back then.

I think Tendulkar is rated a little too highly - over Imran Khan what the.....

[Raz]

No Waqar there as well

[octavian]

Waqar shud have been there... and tendi above imran ?

[Officer Barbrady]

Other than Tendulkar though. Any others that should (not) be there?

[cavin420]

too many aussies for my liking........perhaps swap one of them with srilankas arvinda de silva...

[Daoud]

Garner and Walsh shouldnt have been ahead of Ambrose and Holding either. No Waqar and Murali either?

[aamir_riaz]

In my opinion I dont think Greg should have been there
If Ambrose is there then why not Waqar
Richie benaud is he a legend of what Commenctary or one liners
I also think Walsh and Lara should have been a lillte up in the order

[UJ]

I cant believe that theres no space on that list for Murali or Waqar.

[Tariq Jamshed]

Don't agree with the rankings (not sure if they were meant to be of any importance), but the list itself is perfectly fine. No noticable omissions as far as I am concerned, and nobody unworthy in that list either.

Waqar and Murali aren't legends in the opinion of many many people (myself included) - the reasons are different though in either case.

If the list was a bit newer, definitely Ponting would make it.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Well no more comment on the Little Master though Benaud probably got ahead of Qadir due to his captaincy and batting.

Is this post war?

Ian Healy should be there or Rashid Latif.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

btw best bowler ever is not on the list - what are they playing at?

[Officer Barbrady]

Originally Posted by AmitMishra bowls wrongun Well no more comment on the Little Master though Benaud probably got ahead of Qadir due to his captaincy and batting. Is this post war? Ian Healy should be there or Rashid Latif.

Sort of those who played post 1970

[Farhad]

Fat-Boy Botham ahead of Marshall, Roberts, Akram, Lara, McGrath!! There goes the credibility of that list!

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Benaud retired in 1960 something did he not?
And what did Sobers do in the 70s? Very little.

Farhad - Botham averaged something like 50 with the ball in his last 25 tests! He is a legend yes but I agree is too high.
SA had been excluded around 70 so the 3 apartheid hit players wouldnt be there.

Quite confused now!

[Officer Barbrady]

OK, 1965 onwards..(ie including all players who played after that are considered - the full length of their careers is)

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Would explain why Don and Grimmett arent there. I remember watching on TV where they had Wally Hammond in the top 5!

Hold on - WAQAR YOUNIS!!!

[Farhad]

Imran Khan never played for records and stats, yet his overall averages are better than those of anyone else in that list! And they don't have him even in Top 3. Silly stuff. And where is Murali?

[Officer Barbrady]

Very strange that Murali isn't there.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

6 wickets a test - only Lillee and Grimmett can compare to that among 200 wkt+ bowlers I think.

[Farhad]

Amit

Murali bowls a heck of a lot in Tests so 6 wickets a Test you cannot use as a yardstick to compare with other bowlers. His average is what should be compared and Strike-Rate. Moreover, Imran and Lillie never got to play very weak teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Murali has improved his stats a lot playing against them.

Lillie took 355 in 70 Tests I believe...that's 5 wickets a Test - but he averaged 25. Not THAT exceptional at all, as his stats are lop-sided. He was an England-basher mainly. Bowling stats of Imran, McGrath and Marshall - those are what you can call extremely well-balanced performance records.

Grimmett, yah.....read a lot about him - 200 wickets in 36 Tests I think.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

203 in 37 maybe - pioneered the flipper. Bradman even asked him once if he still knew how to bowl the hard spin leg break!

I think 25 is a super average but Imran 22, Pigeon 21, Marshall 20, even Ambrose at 20.99?, Hadlee 22 and Waqar Younis 23 are better still. Dont think DKL bowled in Asia as well though may be reasons for that as Greg Chappell never played there either to my knowledge.

Leaving now but 1 thing Farhad - despite ur dislike of my fave player - u can call me Gary

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Murali still has good SR and remember Lanka are the smallest test side - minnow and most recent compared to the rest which is why they play Zim and BD more often. Still 50 wkts against every nation is magnificent and he has a very good record without BD and Zim.

ok bye

[Rob H]

People to be added - Waqar, Murali, McGrath, Ashley Giles

[Farhad]

Originally Posted by AmitMishra bowls wrongun 203 in 37 maybe - pioneered the flipper. Bradman even asked him once if he still knew how to bowl the hard spin leg break! I think 25 is a super average but Imran 22, Pigeon 21, Marshall 20, even Ambrose at 20.99?, Hadlee 22 and Waqar Younis 23 are better still. Dont think DKL bowled in Asia as well though may be reasons for that as Greg Chappell never played there either to my knowledge. Leaving now but 1 thing Farhad - despite ur dislike of my fave player - u can call me Gary

Alrite Gary!

Greg Chappell did play in Pakistan - the dsame Series in which Lillie took just two wickets. He dsacored 235* in a score of 617 for Aus and Pak replied with 386/2. Taslim Arif, the Pak w/k knocked Lillie silly on his way to 210*.

[Bilsher007]

Asalaam alikukum Wr Wb ;

The list is made up by biased panelists and they have'nt done justice to other well deserved players who are worthy to be called legends for their performances and records. Players like waqar younis, murali,gilchrist,qadir,hanif mohammed and few others should have been in this list undoubtedly. Why is sachin tendulkar so high up in this list ? He does'nt even deserve to be in the top 10 to be honest. Other players deserve to be higher then sachin and imran khan, wasim akram and waqar younis are amongst those players who rank higher then sachin in terms of records and match winning performances. Sachin has almost got the bulk of his one day and test runs against minnows and in terms of match winner does'nt even com e close to imran,wasim and waqar.The list has it's flaws but i am not surprised when you have a biased panel.

[Farhad]

Bilsher
Wassalaam

Sachin has scored runs against every team in the world, not just the minnows. But yes, his impact is nowhere near those of Imran or the Two Ws. Imran was literally more than twice the player Sachin is, considering contribution to the team and performance - through the disciplines of bowler, batsman or skipper. I would have Sachin in the Top 15 but definitely not in the Top10.

The reason Murali is not there is obviously because many in the Panel are not convinced by his bowling action. But some are also part of various ICC Committees and should respect the findings of ICC itself on this matter.

[aamir_riaz]

Originally Posted by Farhad Bilsher Wassalaam Sachin has scored runs against every team in the world, not just the minnows. But yes, his impact is nowhere near those of Imran or the Two Ws. Imran was literally more than twice the player Sachin is, considering contribution to the team and performance - through the disciplines of bowler, batsman or skipper. I would have Sachin in the Top 15 but definitely not in the Top10. The reason Murali is not there is obviously because many in the Panel are not convinced by his bowling action. But some are also part of various ICC Committees and should respect the findings of ICC itself on this matter.

Why isnt Waqar and Qadir in the list . If you compare Ambrose and Waqar both are at par or Waqar ahead so cant find why Waqar isnt there

[safehands46]

Originally Posted by Marooned It's not a bad list and some of the most deserving right at the top. But, the highly questionable ones are Holding and Lara way down the list. Also, was Benaud really better than Qadir? Tendulkar a little too high up there? The list is a couple of years old so I guess Gilchrist hadn't made a claim back then.

benaud wasnt just bowler, he was superb captain,fielder and decent bat.

[Amir]

Farhad are you sure that is the correct list? I feel like you are missing someone, because I know number 8 is infact Imran Khan and Sachin is 7.

Now what the heck is Alan Knott doing there? They couldn't find anyone more deserving like Aravinda De Silva or the greatest wicket taker thte game has ever produced...MUTTIAH MURALIDARAN! I mean, sure he has had controversies, but alot of players have (Warne has behavioural problems, Wasim with match fixing, and so on).

[Gujar]

Waqar has to be on there. He's they guy who basically mastered the art of bowling extremely fast and very full. He had the best yorker ever.

[Tariq Jamshed]

Originally Posted by Farhad Bilsher Sachin has scored runs against every team in the world, not just the minnows. But yes, his impact is nowhere near those of Imran or the Two Ws. Imran was literally more than twice the player Sachin is,

'Nowhere near'? Imran twice the player as Sachin? Getting too carried away - speaking as someone who isn't the greatest fan of Sachin but he is a better batsman (and then some) than any batsman from sub continent, ever (and I've seen a fair few)

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Originally Posted by Farhad Alrite Gary! Greg Chappell did play in Pakistan - the dsame Series in which Lillie took just two wickets. He dsacored 235* in a score of 617 for Aus and Pak replied with 386/2. Taslim Arif, the Pak w/k knocked Lillie silly on his way to 210*.

Right enough, remember he said was flattest wicket he ever played on!
He has never played in India I think and so I wrongly assumed Asia as well!

Curious case Taslim - finished I think with 60+ average - surely was good enough as a pure batsman?

Interesting about Tendulkar in top 15 Farhad - very honest and balanced view you gave - I know what ur saying about Imran but reason I think Tendulkar is so high is that he is believed to be the next best thing to Don although all rounder is a very demanding discipline especially when ur as good as Imran.

[Tariq Jamshed]

Is it always necessary to put down one great cricketer to elevate another?

[Rickz]

Originally Posted by Bilsher007 Asalaam alikukum Wr Wb ; The list is made up by biased panelists and they have'nt done justice to other well deserved players who are worthy to be called legends for their performances and records. Players like waqar younis, murali,gilchrist,qadir,hanif mohammed and few others should have been in this list undoubtedly. Why is sachin tendulkar so high up in this list ? He does'nt even deserve to be in the top 10 to be honest. Other players deserve to be higher then sachin and imran khan, wasim akram and waqar younis are amongst those players who rank higher then sachin in terms of records and match winning performances. Sachin has almost got the bulk of his one day and test runs against minnows and in terms of match winner does'nt even com e close to imran,wasim and waqar.The list has it's flaws but i am not surprised when you have a biased panel.

Well, Tendulkar should be a little bit lower but I put him at 10th place.

Hey mate, Sachin has got runs agaisnt evrey cricketing country, check is Australia test and odi records. The only player to get 10,000 runs and over 35 hundreds in both forms of the games.
Sachin holds the most test and odi runs in a single calender year.
About match-winning check his world cup stats, notably without Tendulkar India would have never reached the quarters in 2003 let alone the final.
Also note that Sachin as scored the most test overseas runs and hundreds, thiers a lot of records for him and a lot of factors why he should be in the top10.

You Pakistanis might not like the fact that Tendulkar is in the top 10, but to the rest of the world, they regard him as the next best batsmen behind the great don.

[Rickz]

Originally Posted by Marooned While watching a couple of available episodes of the famous ESPN legends series I decided to google out the list. Here's the list of modern players: Modern-day Espn Legends of Cricket 1. Gary Sobers 2. Viv Richards 3. Shane Warne 4. Dennis Lillee 5. Sachin Tendulkar 6. Imran Khan 7. Sunil Gavaskar 8. Ian Botham 9. Richard Hadlee 10. Graeme Pollock 11. Malcolm Marshall 12. Greg Chappell 13. Wasim Akram 14. Kapil Dev 15. Steve Waugh 16. Barry Richards 17. Allan Border 18. C Walsh 19. Mike Procter 20. F Trueman 21. Brian Lara 22. Richie Benaud 23. Joel Garner 24. Andy Roberts 25. Curtly Ambrose 26. Michael Holding 27. Glenn McGrath 28. Javed Miandad 29. Knott 30. Allan Donald The legends were selected by a panel comprising Ian Chappell, Richie Benaud, Sunil Gavaskar, Dickie Bird, Mike Procter, Michael Holding, Martin Crowe, Wasim Akram, Ian Botham, Allan Border, Sir Richard Hadlee, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Tony Cozier, John Knowles and Robin Marlar."

I would also put S.Pollock to that list and maybe take out Knott, Healy was a better keeper then him.

[Sultan Yusuf]

The panel seem to have criteria confused!

[Easa]

Originally Posted by Rob H People to be added - Waqar, Murali, McGrath, Ashley Giles

'The King Of Spain' .

[Easa]

Where is Murali?

Waqar?

Best strikerate, post WW2. Where the hell is he?

[Bilsher007]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed 'Nowhere near'? Imran twice the player as Sachin? Getting too carried away - speaking as someone who isn't the greatest fan of Sachin but he is a better batsman (and then some) than any batsman from sub continent, ever (and I've seen a fair few)

ASalaam alikum Wr Wb;

Imran was twice the cricketer than sachin due to his performances as a allrounder and the impact he had with multi national tornament,bilateral test and one day series results. Sachin better batsman than any who have seen in subcontinent ever ??? Tariq jamshed have you watched enough batsmen from the subcontinent play ? Where would you rank zaheer abbas ( known as Asian Bradman ), sunil gavaskar,hanif mohammed and inzamam ul haq ? All of these batsmen are better in terms of their mental strengths,records against better bowling and their match winning perfomances. Playa you mentioned that tendulkar is placed high in the list cause he's the next thing after bradman ?!!!!

Yes i know he has scored a lot of runs against all cricketing countries home and away but a lot of his runs be it test and one day record has been enhanced thanks to a bulk of runs scored against minnows. Indians will not like to hear this but you have to accept reality if you are true cricket enthusiast. I don't think tendulkar has fared well overall against the top bowlers. If statistics is prepared one to one with the number of deliveries faced,runs scored,wickets lost and matches won and lost when facing mcgrath,wasim,waqar,saqlain,ambrose,walsh and murali then surely will all know where sachin really stands.

[Bilsher007]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed
'Nowhere near'? Imran twice the player as Sachin? Getting too carried away - speaking as someone who isn't the greatest fan of Sachin but he is a better batsman (and then some) than any batsman from sub continent, ever (and I've seen a fair few)



ASalaam alikum Wr Wb;

Imran was twice the cricketer than sachin due to his performances as a allrounder and the impact he had with multi national tornaments,bilateral test and one day series results. Sachin better batsman than any batsmen you have seen in subcontinent ever ??? Tariq jamshed have you watched enough batsmen from the subcontinent play ? Where would you rank zaheer abbas ( known as Asian Bradman ), sunil gavaskar,hanif mohammed and inzamam ul haq ? All of these batsmen are better in terms of their mental strengths,records against better bowling and their match winning perfomances. Playa you mentioned that tendulkar is placed high in the list cause he's the next thing after bradman ?!!!!

Yes i know he has scored a lot of runs against all cricketing countries home and away but a lot of his runs be it test and one day record has been enhanced thanks to a bulk of runs scored against minnows. Indians will not like to hear this but you have to accept reality if you are true cricket enthusiast. I don't think tendulkar has fared well overall against the top bowlers. If statistics is prepared one to one with the number of deliveries faced,runs scored,wickets lost and matches won and lost when facing mcgrath,wasim,waqar,saqlain,ambrose,walsh and murali then surely will all know where sachin really stands. Rahul dravid is a better batsman than sachin easily, he is mentally stronger and has performed against the best bowlers consistently and possesses a better match winning record compare to sachin tendulkar.Sachin would be best placed in the top 20 but not top 10 in legends list. The most annoying thing is not having waqar younis in the list of legends, he not only had the best strike rate ever in test macthes and one of the best in one dayers but gave numerous match winning performances. Inzimam ul haq also deserves to be in the legends list for so many reasons, one of the best players of fast and spin bowling, match winning performances,successful captain overall to date and last but not least was instrumental in pakistan winning the 1992 cricket world cup.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Yes Bilsher - we know Australia as the minnows of world cricket.

[Swaraj!!]

Is that so? Most guys say that Sachin is a choker in finals and series clinchers. Maybe so....my point is India for so long were a team that wouldnt even have been in finals and like situations if not for Sachin. Too bad that once we have other cricketeers coming up we tend to forget someone who was the mainstay of a whole nation's batting for whole nigh 15 yrs. The reason why Sachin is so high up in the list is probably because he had a threadless backup in all the years that he played apart from the last couple of years. And to be fair, even his figures in the last couple of years are good enough to get him into any side (and in spite of injury too).
Back to the list...where is Inzy in the list? I havent seen Saeed Anwar as well. Nor have I seen anyone suggesting them till now.

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed Is it always necessary to put down one great cricketer to elevate another?

Playing Devil's advocate...one doesn't have to try to appear neutral by praising other team's players more than someone, Imran in this case, who was in fact twice the player any wannabe Bradman will be

Don't go entirely by the career stats of Imran, cause due to injury and the fact that he played a lot on dead pitches, and also that he played till he was 37, when he was primarily just a batsman...his average, strike rate, and wickets per match suffered a bit

BUT, what a player he was; when he pretty much played as a batsman, during the later days of his career, he averaged above 50 (that too when he captained quite an average team) in the day of Int'l bowlers who were more like terrorists on a cricket pitch!

The fact that, Imran as a captain had the best Test average as a batsman (I think) in that era (when he was not even a pure batsman) and even still beat most of the 'Batting Captains' in terms of batting average...add to that, his strike rate, wickets per game, and average as a bowler actually improved by leaps and bounds, after becoming the skipper, speaks volumes of the true greatness of the 'Great Man'.

And also, a little matter of beating almost every Test playing nation, at their own home ground, as a skipper puts him in a category all his own...

I dare someone to show me a cricketer who was so well rounded as a player and as a captain...anyone

[safehands46]

sachin of the 90s was one of the greatest batsmen ever. If you dont see that you have to get rid of the bias.

Secondly, Imran after sobers is quite possibly the most influential players to ever play the game. He deserves a higher rank but his fielding has always been knocked on. That being said who the hell gave shane warne the place of 3. He is cheat, they are able to knock wasim for that but not him. I am not putting his skill done. he has been implied and caught.

I think imran is in the top 3. and sachin spot is justified considering the time this was made.
I dont like bothams place, the south africans deserve better.

that being said there is alot bias in the rankings. But isnt there every where.
When I say imran khan is the greatest pakistani test bowler people will argue against me.

[APOCALYPSE]

The legends were selected by a panel comprising Ian Chappell, Richie Benaud, Sunil Gavaskar, Dickie Bird, Mike Procter, Michael Holding, Martin Crowe, Wasim Akram, Ian Botham, Allan Border, Sir Richard Hadlee, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Tony Cozier, John Knowles and Robin Marlar."

Is this a conspiracy by all of the above to inflate Sachin higher up the list. Every player on the selection panel has historically been anti pakistani and are all pro india(even wasim).

ps none of the selection panel know anything about cricket or else the whole list would have no indians on it

[Swaraj!!]

Oh Sure......and we know more than all of them and I am Einstein

Frankly the conspiracy theory is getting too mundane whenever you dont have anything to backup. Pls note that I am not arguing against anyone's presence or position in the list....

[Farhad]

Originally Posted by Tariq Jamshed 'Nowhere near'? Imran twice the player as Sachin? Getting too carried away - speaking as someone who isn't the greatest fan of Sachin but he is a better batsman (and then some) than any batsman from sub continent, ever (and I've seen a fair few)

Carried away? I have given the proposition bearing in mind you are comparing a unique three-dimensional cricketer (Imran), with a great batsman (Sachin).

Imran was not just one of the all-time great bowlers, a Test standard batsman but also one of the two greatest (with Worrell), if not the best skipper ever. Sachin is an all-time great batsman, a less than mediocre bowler and a shoddy skipper.

Have a look at the following objective assessment:

Average is best parameter (alongwith S/R in ODIs) which determines what a player has contributed to his team over time - that is as far as stats go in reflecting the performances of players without clouding them with the color of bias.

Imran's bowling average is 22.8 (world-class), batting average 37.8 (Test standard for a player of that era), and captaincy exceptional.

Sachin's batting average is 57 (world-class) - and that's about it.....nothing to write about in the areas of bowling and captaincy.

So that's how Immi contributed easily more than twice what Sachin does for India.

I doubt if you followed Imran's era at all that closely. His greatest dimension of excellence was incredibly his captaincy skills and achievements as he transformed an internecine rag-a-tag bunch of cricketers into world-beaters - those that stood up to the Windies teams of Lloyd / Richards - the greatest ever team assembled, and gave them as good as they got from them.

And please don't tell me you think Sachin is better than Dravid!!

[Rickz]

Originally Posted by Farhad Carried away? I have given the proposition bearing in mind you are comparing a unique three-dimensional cricketer (Imran), with a great batsman (Sachin). Imran was not just one of the all-time great bowlers, a Test standard batsman but also one of the two greatest (with Worrell), if not the best skipper ever. Sachin is an all-time great batsman, a less than mediocre bowler and a shoddy skipper. Have a look at the following objective assessment: Average is best parameter (alongwith S/R in ODIs) which determines what a player has contributed to his team over time - that is as far as stats go in reflecting the performances of players without clouding them with the color of bias. Imran's bowling average is 22.8 (world-class), batting average 37.8 (Test standard for a player of that era), and captaincy exceptional. Sachin's batting average is 57 (world-class) - and that's about it.....nothing to write about in the areas of bowling and captaincy. So that's how Immi contributed easily more than twice what Sachin does for India. I doubt if you followed Imran's era at all that closely. His greatest dimension of excellence was incredibly his captaincy skills and achievements as he transformed an internecine rag-a-tag bunch of cricketers into world-beaters - those that stood up to the Windies teams of Lloyd / Richards - the greatest ever team assembled, and gave them as good as they got from them. And please don't tell me you think Sachin is better than Dravid!!

Darvid is cetainly the best batsmen for India right now, but overall Sachin is better then Dravid.

I agree Imran Kahn should be put higher then Sachin.

[Rickz]

Originally Posted by APOCALYPSE The legends were selected by a panel comprising Ian Chappell, Richie Benaud, Sunil Gavaskar, Dickie Bird, Mike Procter, Michael Holding, Martin Crowe, Wasim Akram, Ian Botham, Allan Border, Sir Richard Hadlee, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Tony Cozier, John Knowles and Robin Marlar." Is this a conspiracy by all of the above to inflate Sachin higher up the list. Every player on the selection panel has historically been anti pakistani and are all pro india(even wasim). ps none of the selection panel know anything about cricket or else the whole list would have no indians on it

Mate, its obvious that you preety much hate Sachin.

Alll those Legends know cricket very well, Gavaskar, Sachin and Kapil dev deserve to be thier.

Now the selection panl is not racist in anyway, and not anti-Pakistan and thats the truth.

Now a lot of people around the world, maybe not you, have got the highest regards of Sachin, he is one truly class player, no one matched him in the 90s, he just got better and better, and more consistant in both forms of the games with a perfect technique. The Don himself said he was the best batsmen at around that time.

Put it this way over 10,000 runs in both forms of the games, over 35 hundreds in both forms of the games, with amazing consistancy over 16 years, it the 90s India relied heavily on Sachin, without Sachin India would be a rubbish team, he took India to many great feats, he took India to the world cup semis in 96, world cup final in 2003, won the Sharjah 98 tournement, the saving grace of Aussies tour in 92 and 01 etc........ and many more records is a very high achivement, tell me any crickter who as got 10,000 runs in both forms of the games and over 35 hundreds in both forms of the games?



The selection panal has got it right, but I agree Imran Kahn should be higher then Sachin and Sachin deserves to be thier.