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14th March 2005, 00:57
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Notorious BIG murder case closed/2pac alive-all the theories
The FBI has closed its investigation into the murder of rapper Notorious BIG, who was shot dead in 1997.
The FBI had been looking into a theory that a rogue police officer was involved, but has decided there is not enough evidence for a prosecution. Notorious BIG, also known as Biggie Smalls, was killed six months after his rival Tupac Shakur. There have been reports that the murders were part of a US rap feud, but both remain unsolved. Notorious BIG, real name Christopher Wallace, was regarded as one of rap's brightest stars, with gritty lyrics about street life, when he burst onto the scene in 1994. 'Covered up' The FBI spent 18 months working on a theory that the rogue officer was part of a murder plot. A witness placed him at the scene hours before the shooting and investigators said he owned a car matching the description of one seen speeding away. But other evidence did not support the theory, they said. The rapper's mother is now suing the Los Angeles Police Department for allegedly covering up police involvement in her son's death. Voletta Wallace's legal action, seeking unspecified damages, is due to reach court in Los Angeles on 12 April. 
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14th March 2005, 00:58
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The Los Angeles Times has investigated the murder of rapper Tupac Shakur and says it has uncovered a $1m plot over his death.
Shakur, from Los Angeles, was killed by a young gang member, also now dead, who had been paid $1m (£638,000) by rap rival Notorious BIG, the respected paper says. It identifies the murderer as Orlando Anderson, 21, who was attacked by Shakur and his entourage on the night Shakur was murdered. No one has been convicted of the killing of Shakur, who was shot in his car on 7 September 1996 on the Las Vegas strip after watching a Mike Tyson fight. The paper also said Anderson used a pistol provided by the Notorious BIG, real name Christopher Wallace. Notorious BIG was also murdered There has always been speculation Shakur, from the West Coast, died because of his rivalry with Wallace, 24, an East Coast-based rapper. Wallace was shot six months later in Los Angeles, a murder that has also remained unsolved. Gang violence also claimed Anderson's life. Anderson has often been cited as the prime suspect in Shakur's killing, but police said they could not make a case as witnesses in Shakur's entourage would not help them. During the investigation, reporters said they interviewed gang members from Anderson's gang, the infamous Southside Crips, who had not previously spoken out. The paper's investigation took police affidavits, court records and interviews with witnesses to conclude Crips gang members spoke to Wallace in order to gain financially from a killing they had already decided to carry out. Revenge beating Shakur and Wallace had been good friends but had fallen out and began a very public feud. According to the paper, on the night of his death, Shakur and his bodyguards attacked Anderson in a hotel in revenge for an attack on one of the entourage at a shopping centre. Instead of speaking to the police, Anderson rang gang members, met in a hotel room and decided to kill Shakur the same night, the paper went on. They then met Wallace and demanded $1m - according to people who said they were present - which the rapper allegedly agreed to on the condition they used his .40-calibre pistol. Just days before Wallace himself was fatally shot in 1997, asked by a radio station host whether he had been involved, the rapper said he "wasn't that powerful yet".
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14th March 2005, 01:03
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an old article here - shows how strong/feared suge knight is:
Marion "Suge" Knight's release will see the return of one of hip-hop's most notorious and feared figures. It will also revive memories of the hip-hop battles of the mid-1990s, which saw two of its biggest stars - Tupac Shakur and the Notorious BIG murdered. Knight, 35, whose Death Row Records label was one of rap's leading imprints, has been serving a nine-year term since October 1996 for a probation violation. Knight was born in 1966 in Compton, one of Los Angeles' roughest districts. His nickname comes from "sugar bear". He attended the University of Nevada in Las Vegas and tried out for the LA Rams gridiron team before gravitating towards the record industry. Bodyguard He started out as a bodyguard - he weighs around 23 stones - to performers such as Bobby Brown, before starting his own label in 1989. Tupac was signed after Knight posted $1.4m bail From its early days, Death Row Recordings was accused of using violence to serve its own ends. The rise of the company was played out against the continuing gang warfare which had riddled Compton for many years. A lawsuit filed against Knight and rapper Dr Dre claimed he brought along bats and pipes to help persuade Ruthless Records boss Eric Wright - otherwise known as NWA rapper Easy-E - to release Dre from his contract. Easy-E - who formed NWA alongside Ice Cube and Dr Dre in 1987 - had ties with the Crips gang from the south of Compton, while Knight was linked to the Bloods, based in the north. Dre was released from his contract and the Knight-produced album The Chronic sold five million copies after it was released in 1992. Assault While the case was settled out of court, allegations about Knight's business practices continued. In 1995, he was convicted of assaulting two rappers who he caught using a telephone in a studio without his permission, and was put on probation. The same year, rapper Tupac Shakur was convicted of sexually assaulting a female fan. Knight put up $1.4m bail to ensure Tupac's release - and his presence on Death Row. Knight's empire: Death Row Records Tupac became Death Row's biggest artist - but he was also a magnet for trouble. He was shot and robbed in 1994 - and Tupac alleged New York entrepreneur Sean "Puffy" Combs and his Bad Boy Entertainment label were involved. Combs denied it - but an east coast-west coast feud was born. Knight attacked Combs - now himself a multi-million selling rapper as Puff Daddy - for appearing in his artists' videos, while Bad Boy artists renamed Tupac "One-pac" because he had lost a testicle in the 1994 shooting. Bodyguards from the two camps were also caught brawling. Tupac murder In September 1996, Tupac and Knight had attended a Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas when Tupac confronted a young man in the lobby of the MGM Grand Hotel - reportedly accusing him of being a Crip. Security cameras caught Tupac punching the man, Orlando Anderson, while Knight and the rest of his entourage kicked him in the head and body before leaving. A few hours later, Tupac was shot by a gunman who pulled alongside the car carrying him and Knight through Las Vegas. He died a few days later. Anderson, who was himself murdered in 1998, was a suspect, but his family have always maintained his innocence. Jailed In November 1996, a Los Angeles judge found Knight guilty of breaking his probation by taking part in the assault on Anderson. The Death Row empire was about to crash down around him, as he was sentenced to nine years in jail. "Mr Knight, you blew it," Superior Court Judge J Stephen Czuleger told him in February 1997. "In the interest of public safety I cannot put you back on probation." Knight was involved in a feud with Sean "Puffy" Combs Shortly after Knight was sentenced, the east-west coast war looked set to intensify after a second killing - that of Notorious BIG, a Bad Boy artist whose real name was Christopher Wallace. However, tempers cooled, although police did raid Death Row Records' offices two years later. As in the case of Tupac's killing, no charges have been brought regarding Wallace's death. Release Since Knight's incarceration, his old rival Sean "Puffy" Combs has become a household name around the world. Meanwhile, Death Row has fallen from its once-dominant position, with posthumous Tupac Shakur albums boosting its income. Acts such as Dr Dre, Snoop Doggy Dogg, and Nate Dogg have left the label. Many people in the industry are dreading Knight's release - others will be pleased to have his talent-spotting skills back. His publicist Jonathan Wolfson said he is keen to return to the fray. "Death Row Records has been behind bars for the last four-plus years," he said. But fresh trouble could still be in store. After five years, a federal grand jury is still investigating Death Row's affairs amid allegations of drug trafficking and money laundering. Whatever happens, 2001 looks like being a very interesting year for hip-
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14th March 2005, 01:08
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After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.
The suspicious facts: Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting. The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96? In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead. A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.) Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons. Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight? In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case? Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli. Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs. Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive." The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory. Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart. Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number. < There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI". The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting. In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released. In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death? In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli. Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert? There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide? The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight? The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection? Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with the Tupac shooting? There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them.... Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit? Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit? Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have were to be released.. With so many people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash... There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed. The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death .... The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta... In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish? In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy. Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death... People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me and others about the shooting being staged. Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers? Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called “The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory” which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads “Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli” as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype< The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac. In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me" Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated? In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan **** six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..." In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "**** 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made nigga..." In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..." In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..." In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli? The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot. "I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13 In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli. In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. Marketing Hype In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious? Marketing Hype "Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..." "Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears... "White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..." "Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few." "Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw ****, nigga check it..." Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..." Marketing Hype Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album. Marketing Hype In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's. In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7. The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:, "So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz. The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..." Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in solving the murder? Since his death, there have been numerous reports of Tupac sightings.
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14th March 2005, 18:58
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well i disagree waquas - i think he is still alive
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14th March 2005, 19:43
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14th March 2005, 19:59
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k will do, but first up - he liked to b e known as makavelii, who was famed for faking his death. Also rearrange letters of makavelii - it gives, "i am alive". In many songs he referred to his death and how he wanted a low profile life - to start all over. Also it was a suspected murder yet no post mortem which is US law that should be carried out and wasnt, also his funeral was arranged then the press were barred then the funeral was cancelled -- they said the body was cremated - many more things
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16th March 2005, 15:23
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well i just read it all and i have to say that the last one is the most interesting. Although i feel the first couple storys could be the truth you can never say never. all are very interesting ways of looking at it. excelent thread wiy. Hope tupac is still alive, it would be one of the biggest shocks ever. i still dont no which side of the story to go for.
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16th March 2005, 17:18
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adi it is so interesting - i must admit myself but i beleive he is alive - in jamaica are the rumours
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16th March 2005, 18:15
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no way adi - eminem i agree is probably the best around at the minute but tupac is on another level lyrically, his lyrics meant far more - why i preferred him over BIG. can understanding the guy wanting some peace, anothere hint was the changes song, made after his "death" - distinctly refers to " getting some peace" - getting away from attention, has hinted so many times, also has been sighted
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16th March 2005, 18:21
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can you tell me any good songs from tupac? since i was in primary school iv heard he is such a sick rapper yet i have downloaded a few songs and to be quite honest they are all crap. eminem should be president of america people say he is the best at the minute but hold on hes been doing it since god knows how long. the reason why i think he is the best is because he has been smashing the charts for god knows how long.
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16th March 2005, 18:25
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changes, dear mama, california love etc etc
get the all eyez on me album - he is the greates rapper which songs u download? also there were a few diss tracks he put out that blew BIG away
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16th March 2005, 18:30
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u being sarcastic umar - after all rap could be seen as a form of poetry - not the commercial crap put out now but stuff by tupac about life and the struggle by black people
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16th March 2005, 18:34
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sure rappers now bring out the odd good song, but to me, the lyrics are what count, that is why nas is up there now too
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16th March 2005, 18:47
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mona - care to explain lack of post mortem, lack of cooperation from suge and all the hints tupac gave in his songs?
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16th March 2005, 18:51
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NO WAY adi, even eminem wouldnt say such a thing, the guy is in awe of tupac, although i would say eminem is on par with BIG
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16th March 2005, 18:57
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50 cent is a 2pac wannabe, he wants to copy everything that 2pac ever done, has 50 cent ever said anything intelligent? compare that to some of 2pac lyrics the guy is a pub singer!!
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16th March 2005, 19:34
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adi - will dig up an eminem interview for u - where he admits pac is the legend
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17th March 2005, 21:53
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Nobody and i mean Nobody can touch Tupac. Eminem is brilliant BUT Tupac was/is in another league! Adi i dont care how much songs they have sold, just listen to Tupac songs and you will see why he is the best!
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17th March 2005, 22:35
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geordie - i agree - u think he is still alive? coz i do, there are too many coincidences
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18th March 2005, 02:56
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I dont know what to think to be honest! i would like him to be alive and to make a comeback, that would be amazing BUT i do think he is dead!
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18th March 2005, 18:30
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getting shot? who cares about that - tupac was more than that - he didnt need to use it to gain recognition - his lyrics did that for him
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18th March 2005, 18:31
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Adi we are not talking about who is more famous or would sell more!
The point is if you compare their songs you will see that Tupac was the better artist
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18th March 2005, 18:32
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Wasnt tupac known as one pac after an assasination attempt in which he is "reported" to have lost on of his crown jewels ?
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18th March 2005, 18:33
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MIG - seems like u a BIG fan - they nicknamed tupac that - and yes thats true, it was some of BIG's boyz that did an ambush
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18th March 2005, 18:40
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yo man - I am into Qawalli, Ghazal and rap - makes perfect sense...na just read that somewhere...
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18th March 2005, 18:59
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not in this forum - too much to laugh at :oD!
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20th March 2005, 10:40
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i dont know why anyone thinks eminem is any good, i think he ****! hes got **** lyrics and a **** voice. 2pacs lyrics were great but biggies lyrics were just as good but 2pac also had a better voice which made him the better overall rapper! I dont think none of them are alive, all this 7 day theory was made up by death row to sell more records! Theres 2 guys who sound similar to biggie, Shyne and guierlla(sp) black. Have a listen and see what you think.
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20th March 2005, 12:48
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ppl like nas and eminem rule at the minute. Adi u talk about tupac getting hype for getting shot - well eminem just used to diss people at start randomly to get attention but now he has moved on and his work has gone up a few notches but still well below tupac
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20th March 2005, 13:08
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Biggie was a good rapper but tupac was far fare better! I disagree Dre is not the best rapper alive! Dre is a brilliant producer BUT Eminem and Nas are the best rappers!
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20th March 2005, 13:10
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i agree with WIY, eminem was young and naive and only dissed people to get his rhymes across i rate eminem nas and Jay Z very highly theyre all great but still below tupac!
Eminem has progressed in his career and still is- nas is just class his lyrics speak for themself! People like The Game, LL Cool J, and Jarule are a gimic they just try to be "thugs" smokin their cigars! imo there is one downside to eminem which is the fact that he always HAS to mention he is white!
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20th March 2005, 13:17
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LOL, well he is, ppl dont mind when blac rappers refer to the fact they are black and proud - so why cant eminem?
even a chinese rapper now - from the ruff ryderz - name is jin
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20th March 2005, 13:19
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i heard that chinese guy and he is not bad!
wiy did you listen to that Pakistani rapper from bradford - jibreel haq. someone posted a thread about it, he is not bad
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20th March 2005, 13:21
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i havent listened to the guy from bradford im intrigued - but yes that chinese rapper aint bad, liked his track " learn chinese"
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20th March 2005, 15:05
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Maybe he is, but rappers like The Game have had it easy as he signed on dre's label so everyone automatically rated him.
Eminem had to work for it even when he was on dre's record label he had it tough because he was white! Tupac was kinda like the spokesperson of the hood, you could tell he was educated by the things he said against politicians and america etc. i disagree dre is NOT the the best rapper alive but his beats are legendary! What do you think about bone thugs n harmony??
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21st March 2005, 01:14
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Immortal Techniqe is a crazy lyricist. Im a big Mos Def fan.
Game is a good rapper. Eminem is a decent rapper as well, you can't take away his style - totally original. Biggy was something else as well, a crazy MC awsome lyrics. Tupac was the man though, he was the don of gangsta rap. He made it all, no one else compares.
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i agree the orginality has gone but even so there is a whole industry outside the commercial industry which is real!
To me no rapper gets on ma nerves more than Jarule the guys a **** he thinks he is a thug, moreover, Tupac!!
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19th May 2005, 16:32
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yeah but it is funny to see 50 cent scared of jarule
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i watched that jibreel guy perform at a mela this year he is o.k, not all that. He has his own website which he carried on rapping about. www.jibreel.co.uk
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18th August 2005, 09:31
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interesting thread.....needlesss to say....2pac's 4 life!
somehow i still think he's alive......i mean all those points, has to be some connection right? btw, big was fantastic....but 2pac's in another league...as for current rapers....less said the better
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He was gettin really big after his all eyez on me album which is still probably the greatest album of all time. He was gonna make his own record company (makaveli records) but suge didnt want him to leave death row cause he was making so much money outta him so ppl say he killed him. Or couple hours before he got killed, he kicked the **** out of this east side boy. You can get video clips of this cause it was caught on cctv. ppl say it was him he got his own back. But i reckon it was suge, he was sitting right next to pac when he got shot and pac got shot sooo many times and he only got 'grazed' by a bullet. Also he refused to testify, so i reckon its him!
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I dont reckon pac's alive..ppl jus make money with all this "pac's alive" BS...How the **** can any1 even compare eminem n 50 to pac n biggie???
Even tho Dre produced stuff for eminem..i rate him v.highly!
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