Harbajan Singh reported again...

[Jedi Knight]

I've just read that Chucky's been called again for throwing... (Cricinfo)

I think they've finally caught him...

|-J

[Khalil]

ChuckBajan and ChuckBalaji have won it for India. I think that ChuckBala's 'effort ball' is a blatant chuck.

[adi 101]

hahhahah they should be banned the dirty chukers

[Geordie Ahmed]

rightly so!

BUT i am worried why its the asian bowlers that are always getting reported! How come Flintoff and co get away with their blatant chucking?

[adi 101]

true that geordie i was thinking about that

[Jedi Knight]

We should appeal to get the game result annuled :-D

It's at least made me feel better... We got beat by a team of olympic level shot putters and javelin throwers :?d

[Geordie Ahmed]

I do think that Harbhajan chucks hence the name chucky BUT i think the ICC show some clear bias.
You get Malik, Hafeez, Chucky, Murali, beera etc etc BUT Flintoff, Kallis (this guy is bad) all get away with it!

[pakistani pride]

he chucks simple !

[Saj]

Harbhajan Singh reported for suspect action

Cricinfo staff

March 20, 2005

Harbhajan Singh has been reported for a suspected illegal bowling action. The offspinner Singh's doosra was called into question by the match officials after India romped to victory by 195 runs in the second Test against Pakistan at Kolkata.

"It was noticeable to the umpires and me that there was an apparent change in action when bowling [the doosra] between the first innings of the match, when no concerns were raised, and the second, which then prompted the report to be made," Chris Broad, the match referee said.

Singh, who took 4 for 145 in that match, is the first bowler to be reported for a suspected illegal bowling action since the ICC's new regulations came into effect on March 1.

He will now undergo an independent review process under the central control of the ICC, which will include bio-mechanical testing, following the report compiled by Broad and the match umpires, Darrell Hair, Steve Bucknor, Arani Jayaprakash. This will be completed within 21 days, and Singh is free to play for India during this time. But if he is found to have an illegal action the 24-year-old could face immediate suspension.

Under the new regulations, the tolerance limit - for straightening of the arm - for all bowlers has been set at 15 degrees, which studies have shown is when the naked eye can make out excessive straightening. The changes were suggested by an expert panel chaired by Sunil Gavaskar, the former Indian opening batsman.

[Jedi Knight]

malik, murli etc are brown...

Whilst freddy et al are white... |-K

Cricket was and is an colonial game...


however... down with chuckbajan |-E |-E |-E

[Saqlain_doosra]

Email ICC to tell them what you think. No point talking about it on pp. If I don't agree with anything, I email them

[Hashim]

Flintoff and that dont get reported becuz they ar white.

Its not rocket science.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra Email ICC to tell them what you think. No point talking about it on pp. If I don't agree with anything, I email them

us emailing them is not going to do anything, lets be realistic!

What needs to be done is the ACC collectively need to bring this issue up with the ICC and fight for it!

[Jedi Knight]

The ACC block sadly have other important things to discuss like who's going to hold the asian cups etc.

They are couple of things the ACC should bring up. These are:

1 Chucking controversy;
2 Why do asians (esp Pakistan) get harsh fines and penalties for silly little things whilst the aussies get off scotch free???

[adi 101]

we should email them they ban the asians but not the ****ing white people. icc **** them they are all racist ********

[Oxy]

Indians know thae Chuckbajan throws it. Bu they insist Afridi is a chucker-despite never havinbg been called.

Pakistanis KNOW that Malik chucks it-its the mother of all chucks!!!

I sense that Pak-Ind is more obsessed with 'outing' the othe opponents so called chuckers!

This is an area where the BCCI/PCB and Lankan board need to unite; the players should go to the players unions and lobby ICC at the way that there is a blatant discrepency in the way the sub-continentals are treated in disciplinary matters.

But when you have the likes of Proctor/LLoyd/Madagualle and Broad running the show (1 from who is missing Apartheid; the other who is known for his haterd of Pak; and 2 coconuts/Uncle Toms who have to prove themself to the establishment that they are 'whiter than white'...it doesnt bode well for us Brownies.

I am not 'crying' racism...just saying that there are dual standards.

The Colonists are still living in the past in the way they treat us!

[gfx]

Dont bring ths asian this and that nonsense up guys.
Both Malik and Chuckbajan are blatant throwers. They should try out for Major League Baseball. If you cant bowl give it up

[bilal]

Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra Email ICC to tell them what you think. No point talking about it on pp. If I don't agree with anything, I email them

wats the email

[Oxy]

gfx...I dont think any disagrees that they chuck...and Malik has got to be the worst ever!

But the way they are treated from Aus/Eng/NZ chucksters totallydiffers.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by gfx Dont bring ths asian this and that nonsense up guys. Both Malik and Chuckbajan are blatant throwers. They should try out for Major League Baseball. If you cant bowl give it up

Have you not been reading the above posts!
Nobody has not said they dont chuck, you will find that most are in agreement that they are blatant chuckers, what we have issues with is why the "white" players like Flintoff, Kallis who are blatant chuckers get away with it?

[Gasherbrum]

harbhajan's doosra definately is suspect. but mr. broad should have a look at the first innings as well, specially when he was bowling to the tail.
oxy, i do think afridi's faster one was once discussed by the administration of being illegal, although i think with the increased limits it would be fine now. sorry, do not have links or news reports to verify this, i just seem to recall he did cut down bowling his faster one quite a bit after being warned.

[gfx]

fellas... I understand your point about the white cricketers not being called. But honeslty, I dont think this is a factor. the problem is mainly with Asian off spinners, most of whom are blatant chuckers.

[The_Cricket_Devil]

WE should just make upa video of clip of many chucked balls and post em whenever this controversy comes up

[Oxy]

So instead of 'Cricket Meri Jaan v5.0' we should wait for the 'chucksters' version, aka:-

'bingee meri baa' v1.0?

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by bilal Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra Email ICC to tell them what you think. No point talking about it on pp. If I don't agree with anything, I email them wats the email

Enquiry@icc-cricket.com

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by bilal Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra Email ICC to tell them what you think. No point talking about it on pp. If I don't agree with anything, I email them wats the email

Enquiry@icc-cricket.com

[Romali_rotti]

This is quite sad, being an Indian. But I must also admitt with Georgie, wHy is the asian always called for chucking, Shoaib, Harby, Murali???. Yet the studies and clinical tests on their actions have gave them the all clear yet they r called again and again..

When guys like lee, flintooff, Kallis all get away.. I rem When Brett Lee was called for chucking by the indian umpire in aus series against NZ, ICC & Australian cricket board acted like they were so shocked at such a report and soon it died away!!! they(ICC) made sure it was concealed.. THIS IS PATHETIC, I RECKOn all asian players should team up and KIK the livin SHI**** outt of ICC and the let the white men know who is the boss, who pays their salaries etc....

[Oxy]

Who is Georgie?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti This is quite sad, being an Indian. But I must also admitt with Georgie, wHy is the asian always called for chucking, Shoaib, Harby, Murali???. Yet the studies and clinical tests on their actions have gave them the all clear yet they r called again and again.. When guys like lee, flintooff, Kallis all get away.. I rem When Brett Lee was called for chucking by the indian umpire in aus series against NZ, ICC & Australian cricket board acted like they were so shocked at such a report and soon it died away!!! they(ICC) made sure it was concealed.. THIS IS PATHETIC, I RECKOn all asian players should team up and KIK the livin SHI**** outt of ICC and the let the white men know who is the boss, who pays their salaries etc....

How was Lee treated differently, he went through the same process as all the bowlers. What did the ICC do different for Lee.

[sajjad]

did lee go thru the testing process at the western aus univ. i dont think so. his action was not sent forward to be checked.

also, many of these **** players arent even reported when they do thier chukking. its easily ignored

[sajjad]

also goes with sledgin
they were quick to penalize kaneria in aus...n also shoaib....but the aussies are never reported even though they are the most blatant sledgers in the game

[Fish]

Originally Posted by sajjad did lee go thru the testing process at the western aus univ. i dont think so. his action was not sent forward to be checked. also, many of these **** players arent even reported when they do thier chukking. its easily ignored

Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt Lee get passed by the chucking committee that included players that were not *****. The same panel that tests all chuckers.

[the_game]

I seriously think Balaji chucks as well. Harbhajan, when he bowls his doosra, really does straighten his arm.

[sajjad]

Originally Posted by Fish Originally Posted by sajjad did lee go thru the testing process at the western aus univ. i dont think so. his action was not sent forward to be checked. also, many of these **** players arent even reported when they do thier chukking. its easily ignored Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt Lee get passed by the chucking committee that included players that were not *****. The same panel that tests all chuckers.

i didnt know that...i thought he never was checked. thanks got the info

[Romali_rotti]

No, He was never checked... Steve waugh made sure sure Lee didint tour the 2001 India series because of the risk of the indian umpires calling him for chucking again.. So out of the blue all of a sudden lee has an injury that dodgy hand brace which he wore to get out of the india series,, just made me laugh!!! it was so made up.... AND NO LEE WAS NEVER INVESTIGATEDDD!!!!!..

[Romali_rotti]

The umpire who reported lee was Venkat,, He noticed especially after the NZ batsmen hit him for a few boundaries he got angry and started reallyy CHUCKINGGGG, especially his bouncers...

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti No, He was never checked... Steve waugh made sure sure Lee didint tour the 2001 India series because of the risk of the indian umpires calling him for chucking again.. So out of the blue all of a sudden lee has an injury that dodgy hand brace which he wore to get out of the india series,, just made me laugh!!! it was so made up.... AND NO LEE WAS NEVER INVESTIGATEDDD!!!!!..

He was investigated by the 12 man committee which included ex players from all countries and they cleared him.

I take it you dont like Lee judging by your irrational statements and outlandish claims, I think thats great that one of our bowlers can upset you so much without bowling a ball.

[Oxy]

Fish...are you an Australian?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Oxy™ Fish...are you an Australian?

Yes and I'm white too.

[Oxy]

...it helps to be I guess

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti The umpire who reported lee was Venkat,, He noticed especially after the NZ batsmen hit him for a few boundaries he got angry and started reallyy CHUCKINGGGG, especially his bouncers...

..and I am guessing that you are Indian?

[Romali_rotti]

By the way YES I AM Indian, and No I dont hate lee. I am personally one of the greatest follower of the Australian cricket team esp Mcgrath , I reckon he is the greatest in world ever...

I live in Melbounre and personally didnt hear anything about a committee clearing LEE and it was very funny how Lee out of the blue had a mysterious injury a week before the AUS tour of INDIA.....

Another thing I have to say is, Shoiab has been uner the press & media taking a lot of heat for his action but LEE has not, YET LEE JUST FLAT OUT CHUCKS, and when the umpire brings it out to light it is quickly brushed under the carpet .. Sorry mate, truth has to be said he is flat out chucker but he gets away with it,, HMmm makes me wonder how much the colour factor comes into play...

[Romali_rotti]

One more thing FISH Lee doesnt unpste me one bit. HEll I love it when he comes into bowl, did you see how Sehwag and Co absolutely trashed him in India's last tour down under??.. What was it in sydney the First Aussie bowler in decades to go for over 200 runs in an innings in a test match.... SO PLEASE BRING MORE OFF LEEE

[MIG]

Originally Posted by Saj Harbhajan Singh reported for suspect action Cricinfo staff March 20, 2005 Harbhajan Singh has been reported for a suspected illegal bowling action. The offspinner Singh's doosra was called into question by the match officials after India romped to victory by 195 runs in the second Test against Pakistan at Kolkata. "It was noticeable to the umpires and me that there was an apparent change in action when bowling [the doosra] between the first innings of the match, when no concerns were raised, and the second, which then prompted the report to be made," Chris Broad, the match referee said. Singh, who took 4 for 145 in that match, is the first bowler to be reported for a suspected illegal bowling action since the ICC's new regulations came into effect on March 1. He will now undergo an independent review process under the central control of the ICC, which will include bio-mechanical testing, following the report compiled by Broad and the match umpires, Darrell Hair, Steve Bucknor, Arani Jayaprakash. This will be completed within 21 days, and Singh is free to play for India during this time. But if he is found to have an illegal action the 24-year-old could face immediate suspension. Under the new regulations, the tolerance limit - for straightening of the arm - for all bowlers has been set at 15 degrees, which studies have shown is when the naked eye can make out excessive straightening. The changes were suggested by an expert panel chaired by Sunil Gavaskar, the former Indian opening batsman.

Eh ? Did he not go thru this process a few months before ? Whats the point of sending him thru this again - simply ask him to stop bowling this doosra business and get back to cricket - ICC seem to have a lot of money on their hands it seems ...

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti By the way YES I AM Indian, .

Well then that explains all the [edited by Mods] moaning, btw learn to read the papers and you would have read all about the investigation into Lees bowling of just use google so you dont look so silly claiming Lee wasnt investigated.

[Romali_rotti]

No u show me Fish man,, U prove me wrong you go and find out about the investigating and report back to me

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti No u show me Fish man,, U prove me wrong you go and find out about the investigating and report back to me

I dont need to, like I said just google and it will be there for you to read about.

I dont care if you dont know about it, it just shows ignorant you are.

[MIG]

Ok , I would say a stalemate has resulted here - can we have some constructive arguments here or move on ?

[Fish]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/862558.stm

Australian fast bowler Brett Lee has been cleared of a suspect bowling action by the International Cricket Council, the Australian Cricket Board confirmed on Wednesday.
ACB chairman Malcolm Speed said the ICC's illegal deliveries panel had given the all-clear to Lee's action after a 75-minute conference call on Tuesday.

The panel of former international cricketers - including Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee and Michael Holding - had earlier viewed real time and slow motion video of his bowling action and ruled it was legal.

"The panel determined Lee did not have a problem with his bowling action," said Speed.<<<<


I dont think its a stalemate when you have one whinging Indian making stupid statements that are completely wrong and shows how ignorant he is.

[MIG]

Fish:
Pls dont insult other posters here.... you have made your point and I respect that - time to move on and contribute to other threads.

RR:
Same applies to you as well pls.

Thanks

[Sheikh_Ji]

Harbhajan being called again after only two test matches show just how useless the biomechanics testing (and subsequent action remodelling) is done at the Uni of western Aus.
this clearly shows that a bowler can easily fake it during tests and then get his name cleared...

[MIG]

Originally Posted by Sheikh_Ji Chukbhajan being called again after only two test matches show just how useless the biomechanics testing (and subsequent action remodelling) is done at the Uni of western Aus. this clearly shows that a bowler can easily fake it during tests and then get his name cleared...

What does that mean for Shoaib Akhtar ?

[zulfiqar]

?? it means nothing MIG. That was cheap shot at Akhtar. He was cleared and has never been reported ever since!

[MIG]

Originally Posted by zulfiqar ?? it means nothing MIG. That was cheap shot at Akhtar. He was cleared and has never been reported ever since!

Wasnt a cheap shot at anyone - question is if Shiekh_Ji tells us ( and I believe him ) that the bio mechanic lab etc can be fooled by anyone then , yes - why do you think the Shoaib didnt do the same thing ? Harbajan Singh is a living example of this - he was cleared a few weeks back but he is back again .

And yes, there are a lot of people on this forum who willl tell u that Afridis faster one isnt quite kosher as well - so lets not be so simple about this.

[Sheikh_Ji]

I wasn't trying to take a cheap shot at anyone (especially not at Shoaib). Shoaib has had to go through that process on more than one occasion, and I for one am fully satisfied by his action. also, shoaib had valid medical justification to back his case

I only brought this up, because i remebered some time back (when murali was tested for his doosra) there were alot of "experts" who questioned the validity of lab tests. In responce the ICC assured all that there would be one bowling expert present during the tests who would judge if the bowler being tested is bowling with the same effort that he would put in during match situations. at the time Murali was being tested, i agreed with the experts and felt that this is not a fool-proof system.

The point im trying to make (i should have been more clear on this in my first posting) is that a bowler if he wants to can easily find a way to fool the system. this is not to say that every bowler does this.... but harbhajan being called only 2 tests after his initial clearance would seem to suggest he succesfully fooled the system

[MIG]

Indians clearly not happy with the report...

From Rediff:

Broad's narrow view

March 21, 2005


On March 3, 2005, the International Cricket Council cleared off-spinner Harbhajan Singh's action, and gave him the go ahead to play the series against Pakistan.

18 days later, on March 21, the ICC match officials reported the very same bowler for a suspected illegal bowling action, at the end of the second Test match between India and Pakistan.

"The report relates specifically to the bowler's action when delivering the `doosra'," said match referee Chris Broad.

"It was noticeable to the umpires and me that there was an apparent change in action when bowling this delivery between the first innings of the match, when no concerns were raised, and the second, which then prompted the report to be made."

The report is, to say the least, worrisome. Ridiculous, would be an equally valid adjective.

Look at it this way: An ICC match referee reports Bajji. The ICC appoints specialists to examine the action, with special reference to the 'doosra'. The specialists give the delivery a clean chit. And the first time Bajji bowls, the ICC match referee reports the delivery again.

The action raises a question: Did the ICC not pass on to the match referee the report of the biomechanical study of Bajji's action?

If the ICC did pass it on, and if the match referee for this series did receive it, then we have an even more interesting situation here -- an ICC official is, by reporting Bajji now, questioning the validity of the assessment -- under the ICC's imprimatur -- by Australian bio-mechanics expert Bruce Elliot, whose biomechanics team at the University of Western Australia has also allowed Muttiah Muralitharan to continue using his doosra until the completion of further biomechanical research into slow bowling.

So how does this go, now? The same biomechanical expert will examine Bajji, come to the same conclusions, let him bowl, and the match referee will report him again?

And so on, until sheer frustration forces the bowler out of interenational cricket?

An equally significant question relates not to the role of the match referee, but to his identity.

Christ Broad was the match referee in Bangladesh, for the December 2004 series featuring India. Harbhajan was first reported after India's second Test against Bangladesh in Chittagong in December.

An upset Harbhajan had, on that occasion, given vent to his frustration. "First tell me how Match Referee Chris Broad was so sure that I was violating the 15-degree barrier? Can it be measured by the naked eye?" Harbhajan had then asked.

"I did meet him (Broad). And he repeatedly said one thing: 'I think ... I think.' So I asked him, "Why do you keep saying that you think?

"If you are sure that I am violating the rule, then say it. Otherwise don't make any comments."

So guess who the match referee is for the ongoing series between India and Pakistan? Christ Broad, no less.

And the first time Bajji bowls after that previous report, Broad reports him again. This is also the first time since the ICC's new regulations concerning suspect actions came into place on March 1.

The match officials have specifically said that the `doosra' is the ball in question -- a ball, it bears repeating, that was cleared by the ICC-appointed biomechanics expert.

It was apparent, the officials admitted, that Bajji used the doosra very sparingly in the Kolkatta Test, and relied mostly on the orthodox off-spinning delivery and the one that goes straight with the arm.

When I met Bajji in Mumbai -- the offie had come to take part in a Tsunami benefit game -- and asked him about the chucking controversy, he seemed quite unruffled.

He said first time he was called, in 1998, he was very nervous. But now, with the ICC reporting bowlers frequently, he had gotten used to it and it didn't seem to make much of a difference, he said.

But though the spinner was seemingly sanguine, those who watched him bowl at the Eden Gardens will agree he was not at his best, that he seemed to be bowling within himself, eschewing most of his variations.

Obviously, the fact of having been reported in Bangladesh, and having to then go under the ICC microscope, was preying on his mind. Word is also that the team management advised him to take it easy, to ease himself back into the groove, even if it meant he bowled a bit under par at the Gardens.

So now what impact will this latest report have on the spinner? How will it impact on his performance at Bangalore -- where Broad, as match referee, will continue to have him under scrutiny?

The larger question is whether this procedure is fair to a player. Sure, if his action is suspect, he needs to be reported, his action needs to be studied, correctives need to be applied if necessary, and he needs to be cleared before he plays again.


But can this happen from one match to another? You play a Test, you are reported, you go to the trouble and expense to clear your name, and the very next Test that you play in, you are reported again?

If that is the case, then what validity, what value, does the biomechanics study have anyway? Why does the ICC insist on subjecting bowlers to the time and effort, if its own officials are not prepared to accept the verdict?

[Naz]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4368371.stm

Harbhajan fumes at bowling report

India delight in Test win
Match report
India's Harbhajan Singh has expressed frustration after his action was reported for the second time in four months by ICC referee Chris Broad.
"I just can't seem to figure out what the ICC is doing", Harbhajan said in a television interview.

"I was sent to Australia as per the ICC's directive and was examined and cleared by the ICC's own specialists.

"I do not have a suspect action. If they want to test me again and again they are most welcome."

The report came after the second Test against Pakistan, which India won by 195 runs, with Harbhajan taking four wickets.

"The report relates specifically to the bowler's action when delivering the doosra," said Broad.

"It was noticeable to the umpires and me that there was an apparent change in action when bowling this delivery between the first innings of the match, when no concerns were raised, and the second, which then prompted the report to be made."

The doosra is an off-spinner's delivery that spins in the opposite direction, like a leg-break.

Broad who reported the spinner after a Test in Bangladesh in December, and he was only cleared earlier this month when the rules were loosened.

Under the International Cricket Council's bowling review process, Harbhajan, who was also reported and cleared in 1998, will undergo analysis of his action by human movement specialists.

A bio-mechanical review of his action should reveal whether the 24-year-old's action falls within the 15 degrees of permitted elbow straightening.

He remains eligible for selection for India, who lead Pakistan 1-0 in their current series with the third and final match beginning in Bangalore on Thursday.

[Fessal]

No doubt the Indians will be making a big noise for chuckabajan just as they did when tendy was given out by bucknor. Expect cries and whinging from the Indian media, fans and players left right and centre.

I get quite annoyed about the ICC which use to be bullied and dominated by purley england and aus in earlier years but now it seems to be aus and india. They seem to think they can have and do as they please and are above the game.

[Fessal]

If Harbajhan bends more than 15 degrees he should be banned from bowling doosra for good unless he can prove to get within the 15degree limit. He and other bowlerd shouldnt be exempt form being called just because they have been cleared once.
However, Harbajhan is a good bowler and I can't see the end of his career even if he can't bowl the doosra.
Was saqqy the only one to bowl the legal doosra?

[Fessal]

If only there was a way of measuring the degrees of bend accuratley in a real match situation rather than only in nets. Obviously the bowlers who bend more than 15 degrees will try and be much much straighter in the nets. Hence, they will be reported again and the loop will continue.

[Flirta-P]

This guy is a blatent cheat. When india are winning he bowls his legal deliveries so he looks innocent but when India need wickets desperatly he starts bowling with an illegal action to get wickets. Welldone umpires for spotting that hes a cheater. Its funny how on the first day he was bowling legally. Then in the second innings when it was a vital part of the match he starts throwing again. He should be banned as he is bowling like this intentionally and not accidently.

[MIG]

Well the ICC official in the middle of all this is no stranger to controversy and cheating himself,

Here is a little snippet from a BBC article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/988246.stm

During the first Test, which was lost by an innings and 87 runs a number of umpiring decisions seemed to go against the tourists - highlighted by Chris Broad's decision not to leave the crease after being given out.

[Daoud]

He'll reduce his intensity in the tests, and will be fine. I do wonder what Bedi says about him though

[Waseem]

Originally Posted by Fessal If only there was a way of measuring the degrees of bend accuratley in a real match situation rather than only in nets. Obviously the bowlers who bend more than 15 degrees will try and be much much straighter in the nets. Hence, they will be reported again and the loop will continue.

SPOT ON fessal, i was gonna say exactly the same thing. You can't just measure the angle in the nets and decide whether someone is chucker or not, there MUST be a way to measure that by observing the still images of bowler's action.
And on this particular issue, i think Chucky Singh chucks for sure and he is as bad as Malik.

[Jameel]

He doesn't just chuck the doosra, he chucks everything. He'd make a good javelin thrower.

Chuckmipathy Balaji should be reported next. He's another dirty cheating chucker.

Forget all this stuff about the ICC calling Asians only and how we should unite. I don't care if Indians are called up for chucking. They deserve it.

[Amjid Javed]

am dissapointed, no need for such a thread! harbajhans action is 100% clear! here are pictures showing it!

intial action



half way thru action




and finally the release.........



and if dont blv the actions real? even sachin tendulkar can show how its done

[Muddaser]

:oD :oD :oD :oD :oD

[Hash]

I saw some video clips of Harbajan's action being tested and I have to say, and I was not the only one who noticed this at the time, it didn't look like his normal action.

I think he faked his action in the test, or at least made extra effort to ensure he kept a straight arm as possible.

[Daoud]

:oD
Exactly Amjid. His action is perfectly fine - for Shotputting :oD

[gfx]

:oD :oD :oD

Amjid thats comdey

Honestly, I'm 90% sure he must be modifying his action for hte tests.
The guy is a blatant chucker, its gross actually. His arm bends like he's throwing a baseball for anything that isn't a standard off spinning ball. Its so obvious I don't know why he's still bowling, he should have been banned ages ago.

[Amjid Javed]

bump

[Amjid Javed]

breaking news - chucky to throw in the olympics

more updates shortley...

[pakistani pride]

LOL

[Romali_rotti]

heheh fish man is pretty cut.. Well thanks for the article and letting me know.. Whats even more funnier is that the chief of the ICC is an aussie ,,,, I just want fairness why should someone get away with chuking just cause he is white....

[Amjid Javed]

even more pictures....



harbajhan (above) and indians bowling coach (below)

[Uzi]

Wright gives support to Harbhajan

India coach John Wright will not try to stop Harbhajan Singh bowling his doosra against Pakistan despite the spinner being reported again in Calcutta.

"I'm not going to ask Harbhajan to stop bowling his doosra," Wright said ahead of the third and final Test in Bangalore starting on Thursday.

"I want him to carry on bowling the way he's been bowling in 40-odd Tests."

BBC Sport

[MIG]

Originally Posted by Uzi Wright gives support to Harbhajan India coach John Wright will not try to stop Harbhajan Singh bowling his doosra against Pakistan despite the spinner being reported again in Calcutta. "I'm not going to ask Harbhajan to stop bowling his doosra," Wright said ahead of the third and final Test in Bangalore starting on Thursday. "I want him to carry on bowling the way he's been bowling in 40-odd Tests." BBC Sport

Something tells me that the Bangalore test will not be a "jeet lo dil" type match - BWs statement and Wrights counterstatement.....well makes me think - throw in Afridi in this mix and we could have a riot in there !!!

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti heheh fish man is pretty cut.. Well thanks for the article and letting me know.. Whats even more funnier is that the chief of the ICC is an aussie ,,,, I just want fairness why should someone get away with chuking just cause he is white....

Fish is laughing because he showed you up as a liar.

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Love your inferiorority complex Romali it looks good on you. :-D