Shoaib and Asif turned down B sample of Dope Testing (merged)

[moekind]

October 27, 2006






Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif have recorded their statements at a tribunal probing the doping scandal that forced them out of the Champions Trophy.

The tribunal, chaired by barrister Shahid Hamid includes Intikhab Alam, the former Pakistan captain, and Waqar Ahmed, a doping expert. The tribunal is hearing the case after the pair tested positive for the performance enhancing banned steroid nandrolone.

"During the second hearing Akhtar and Asif recorded their statements. Asif came alone and was questioned for over an hour while Akhtar was accompanied by Nauman Niaz, his doctor, and stayed for the same duration," a Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) spokesman said. Hamid is expected to release a statement about the proceedings later today. The tribunal is expected to submit its findings in two weeks.

Shoaib and Asif, who both pleaded innocence, were sent home from the Champions Trophy in India last week. Their B samples are yet to be examined.

Shoaib, who returned to cricket only last month after missing Pakistan's Test series in England with an ankle injury, said he never cheated in cricket. "I have not knowingly taken any performance enhancing drugs and would never cheat my team-mates or opponents in this way," Shoaib said. Both Shoaib and Asif face a two-year ban, the minimum for a first offence under the ICC's doping rules. However, the PCB said it will take its own decision since the tests were conducted internally.

[jackal786]

Looks like they have agreed to accept A sample testing. But they deny taking any drugs. News from Skysports commentators.

[jackal786]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/iccc...ry/265636.html

[Salman]

just heard on skysports, not looking too good... oh well... goodbye wc07

[the Great Khan]

it was good few years..now we have to start rebuilding again...cant see any new players anywhere on the scene yet though so Allah bachai...

[in_cutter]

Does'nt sound very promising..looks like they have accepted the decision. BUT the PCB states it will makes it's own decision so there is a slim chance they will play in the WC.

[aliff]

hmm.. i dont think they should be allowed to play in wc. That would be unfair, if they have been caught in performance-enchancing drugs then they should be banned for atleast 1 year to set an example so that other players in future doesn't get involved in drugs. Taking drugs is a shame in the spirit of a sportsmen.

[cornered paktiger]

I've got a feeling they will be banned for one year.

Fear that will be the end for Shoaib. Oh well, I'm sure a career in Bollywood isn't that bad.

[Hash]

Nothing has changed.

I don't think anyone ever disputed that they had tested positive. The point was how that substance got into their system. If the tribunal is convinved that they did not deliberately and knowingly take nandralone then, as that Waqar Ahmed geezer has already said, there is a very good chance that they will be let off.

Remember there are several people who have tested positive for nandralone and been cleared because the tribunal was not convinced that they deliberately and knowingly took the drug (e.g. Linford Christy who had over 100 times the normal amount of nandralone in his peshaab).

Anyway I believe that the case should be thrown out as the PCB did not follow the correct procedure and broke the code of conduct in announcing their names.

[Hash]

Click here.

I guess we find out tomorrow.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Hash Nothing has changed. I don't think anyone ever disputed that they had tested positive. The point was how that substance got into their system. If the tribunal is convinved that they did not deliberately and knowingly take nandralone then, as that Waqar Ahmed geezer has already said, there is a very good chance that they will be let off. Remember there are several people who have tested positive for nandralone and been cleared because the tribunal was not convinced that they deliberately and knowingly took the drug (e.g. Linford Christy who had over 100 times the normal amount of nandralone in his peshaab). Anyway I believe that the case should be thrown out as the PCB did not follow the correct procedure and broke the code of conduct in announcing their names.

agree nothign has changed. but how can u say that the case will be thrown out coz although PCB made a mistake, but they wont blame themselves for it now would they

[mooz]

The only difference between then and now is that this confirms thats Shoaib and Asif know now they have drugs in their system. Did they know at the time of the test? Very likely.

[Hash]

Waqar- because the correct procedure has not been followed by the PCB the case should be thrown out on a 'technicality', if you like. You know if the police are arresting someone for a crime and fail to follow correct procedure during the arrest, the judge is required to throw the case out. That is how it works.

Mooz- how exactly is that very likely?

[mooz]

Originally Posted by Hash Mooz- how exactly is that very likely?

Call it a gut feeling, nothing to convict either gentleman on ofcourse.

[Hash]

Well we find out tomorrow so time will tell!

[P4K1 #1]

inshallah they will be cleared..

[sunny92]

who is this Nauman Niaz guy? Wasnt some other guy going around giving statements claiming to be Shoaib's doctor?

[Cartman]

Pakistan has to seriously start considering life without Asif and Shoaib now. At least for a run of year or so.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by Harry Potter Pakistan has to seriously start considering life without Asif and Shoaib now. At least for a run of year or so.

Well not now.

Not until we find out what the tribunal has decided.

[mooz]

Originally Posted by Hash Well not now. Not until we find out what the tribunal has decided.

Aqalmand to ishara kafi he.

[Cartman]

exactly.. Pakistan risk isolating themselves from the cricket world if they show their own hatdharmi and decide to ban them for 3 months only.. they hve to match the precedent set by aussies and give them at least a year long ban that could effectively end Shoaib's career. Pakistan has to look forward now. no question about it. Mentally prepare yourselves for a WC without the two As

[Hash]

I disagree.

We don't have to follow what the Aussies did. I doubt that they would base any decision they take on something we had done in the past. Why should we follow them because they are white?

We should make our own decision based on our own findings completely independent of any pressure from Speedo man at the ICC or Wada.

If the tribunal is convinced that they did not knowingly take the drug then they should be cleared. Simple as that!

[Cartman]

who says we are following them? I said they have set a "precedent"
There is a difference. If we follow the WADA policy they should get a 2 year ban. ICC complies with WADA. We do not. So we can make this work in our favor. But anything less than a year would be disastrous for us.

[Hash]

I don't think they have set any precedent either.

Our cases are completely different and individual cases. They should be judged as such with no reference to what happened to Warne at all.

[Cartman]

We cannot do that. How many cricketers do you know in history who have been accused and later found guilty of doping by their own boards? Not many .. That automatically puts Warne's situation as a precedent to our situation. Thats how you define it. Its an irregular situation governed by rules and conditions out of the box. out of the scope of ICC.

This would be like us to say we conducted match fixing iquiry but Aussies let Waugh and Wrne off the hook. Dont we say that?

[Sparhawk]

This issue is much more distressing than today's match..... hopefully the duo won't be banned for long...

I personally don't think they would have deliberately taken banned substances so close to the WC!

[mooz]

Originally Posted by Sparhawk This issue is much more distressing than today's match..... hopefully the duo won't be banned for long... I personally don't think they would have deliberately taken banned substances so close to the WC!

So you are saying that it makes more sense to cheat for a no-name tournament in Sharjah but not for the world-cup.
Also I had a question, since these doping tests have been going on for a while now, have Shoaib or asif every tested negative?

[Hash]

Shoaib was tested at the WC in 2003 and at the CT in 2004......both times by the ICC and both times negative.

Harry- this is the first time any cricketer has ever tested positive for a performance enhancing substance. We treat this individually. Warne is irrelevent.

[Hash]

Some pics....

Shoaib leaves

Asif looking quite happy

Shoaib arrives with his doc

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by Hash Some pics.... Shoaib leaves Asif looking quite happy Shoaib arrives with his doc

i wonder wat the hckhes so happy about and why did they accept their resuts makes it seem fishy i dont think they did it on purpose but thier sending the wrong singals