Shoaib to Take the Fall?

[Naveed]

Akhtar, Asif not to challenge B sample results

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LAHORE - Pakistan's drug-disgraced pace bowlers Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif will not challenge results of the doping test that stamped their exit from the ongoing Champions Trophy, a senior official said Friday.
The duo declined to go ahead with a second examination of their B samples, when asked at the tribunal hearing their case at the Gaddafi Stadium here Friday. Their first ones tested positive for a banned drug nanrdolone. Tribunal chief Barrister Shahid Hamid said later on Friday evening that pair had accepted the results of the first tests. The tribunal, which also includes former captain Intikhab Alam and doping expert Waqar Ahmed, is probing their case after they tested positive for banned performance enhancing steroid nandrolone.
The tribunal comprising Barrister Shahid Hamid, Dr Waqar and Intikhab which was adjourned before Eid for Friday, convened at 9.30 am but Mohammad Asif was present at PCB Headquarters at 8.45 am to record his side of the story to prove his innocence and there are chances of exoneration with warning but Shoaib Akhtar, who came to the Gaddafi Stadium with his lawyer Dr Nauman Niaz, might face some stern action due to his past behaviour.
Asif remained before the tribunal from 9.30 to 11.30 while Shoaib who came at 10 am, appeared before the committee at 11 and left the stadium at 12.45.
Dr Nauman said that he couldn't say anything, however, he has presented the statement to the tribunal and now it would send its recommendations to the PCB after going through the statements.
Though the tribunal went into recess for the Friday prayers and lunch after hearing from both the players but it was learnt later that they found some innocence in the case of Mohammad Asif but things with Shoaib are little dicey when they met in the evening. It was also learnt that when Shoaib appeared before the tribunal his attitude was not found friendly and was asked by one of the members to leave the room and keeping in view Shoaib appeared with his lawyer.
However, the tribunal will give its findings within a week to the PCB that will take the final decision.
"Akhtar and Asif have accepted the results of the dope tests and when we offered them to have tests on their B samples they refused to have another test," Hamid said in a statement.
The pair earlier Friday appeared before the tribunal to record their statements which was appointed by the PCB to investigate the doping fiasco. The tribunal, which meets again Saturday, will make recommendations to the PCB and is expected to submit its findings in two weeks.
"We offered both the players to have retests on B samples which they declined, which implies that they are not questioning their failed dope tests," Hamid said.
"They had explained their point of view and we are now going to take medical opinion to examine the situation," said Hamid, who has called up two doping experts for today's hearing.
When asked whether the players have admitted taking banned drugs, Hamid refused to comment. The panel also Friday recorded statements from PCB's chief medical officer Sohail Saleem. Asif came alone to the hearing and was questioned for over an hour while Akhtar was accompanied by doctor Nauman Niaz and stayed for the same duration, a PCB spokesman said.
During a preliminary hearing, which lasted around four hours last week, the tribunal handed medical reports to both the pacemen and asked them to record their statements in the next hearing.
"I have not knowingly taken any performance enhancing drugs and would never cheat my teammates or opponents in this way," the 31-year-old Akhtar said.
Both Akhtar and Asif face a two-year ban, the minimum for a first offense under International Cricket Council doping rules. However, the PCB said it will take its own decision since the tests were conducted internally.

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/oct-2006/28/sports4.php

[Sabika]

this makes me sooo happy im not a big fan of shoib but asif is my idol look at im he came early will mr attitde came strolling in half an hour ate asif is so impressive well manered as wel.
shoibis always n idiot
i know no one agrees but i wouldnt be surrised if shoib got more than asif wich i wont mind even a little
such an unteresting artil im soooo happy right now at elast the think asif is innocent hahahahahah

[mooz]

Originally Posted by Sabika this makes me sooo happy im not a big fan of shoib but asif is my idol look at im he came early will mr attitde came strolling in half an hour ate asif is so impressive well manered as wel. shoibis always n idiot i know no one agrees but i wouldnt be surrised if shoib got more than asif wich i wont mind even a little such an unteresting artil im soooo happy right now at elast the think asif is innocent hahahahahah

You are not endearing yourself to anybody on PP with this comment. It would be a sad sad day if Shoaib's career ended like this.

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by mooz You are not endearing yourself to anybody on PP with this comment. It would be a sad sad day if Shoaib's career ended like this.

well yeah but who the flip shows up late for the trail that would decide just how his career will end eh

[mooz]

Originally Posted by Sabika well yeah but who the flip shows up late for the trail that would decide just how his career will end eh

Maybe he got stuck in traffic or something. Don't tell me you have never been late to something important.

[Sabika]

does he not know that there is such a thing as traffic in pakistan
should have left early
you tell me if you are going to the trail that will decide your life would you
leave on time or
leave early to make sure you are on time
why didnt he appear before the tribunal till 11 though

[mooz]

I can't believe we are willing to give him the benefit of doubt on taking nandrolone( I am sure he is cheating btw), but won't give him the benefit of doubt about being late.

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by mooz I can't believe we are willing to give him the benefit of doubt on taking nandrolone( I am sure he is cheating btw), but won't give him the benefit of doubt about being late.

who are you talking about

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by mooz You are not endearing yourself to anybody on PP with this comment. It would be a sad sad day if Shoaib's career ended like this.

im not happy about shoib's loss if there is a loss im happy about asif being let off maybe just to clarify

[OZGOD]

Why would you decline a right to test your B sample? That doesn't make sense.

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Why would you decline a right to test your B sample? That doesn't make sense.

yeah i brought that up too why woudnt you make the move to protest against the results cause you know you didnt take the drugs

[Hash]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Why would you decline a right to test your B sample? That doesn't make sense.

As I have already said....

they are not contesting whether or not there was nandralone in their body. They are contesting the charge which is that they 'KNOWINGLY took a performance enhancing drug'. Knowingly, ofcoarse is the key word in the charge that the PCB has brought.

[Sabika]

Originally Posted by Hash As I have already said.... they are not contesting whether or not there was nandralone in their body. They are contesting the charge which is that they 'KNOWINGLY took a performance enhancing drug'. Knowingly, ofcoarse is the key word in the charge that the PCB has brought.

but saying that hte results are right is admiting that they accept the results implies they knew about it
just doesnt send the right vibe
i do know what youre saying though

[Hash]

Originally Posted by Sabika but saying that hte results are right is admiting that they accept the results implies they knew about it just doesnt send the right vibe i do know what youre saying though

You are really making something out of nothing. It doesn't imply anything at all (apart from that they accept there was nandralone in their system)......remember people have been cleared before (and all of them DID have nandralone in their system)

[cinderella]

Originally Posted by Sabika this makes me sooo happy im not a big fan of shoib but asif is my idol look at im he came early will mr attitde came strolling in half an hour ate asif is so impressive well manered as wel. shoibis always n idiot i know no one agrees but i wouldnt be surrised if shoib got more than asif wich i wont mind even a little such an unteresting artil im soooo happy right now at elast the think asif is innocent hahahahahah

We don't really care about their attitudes, just their ability to play.
And Pak team is a lot stronger with Shoaib. Yes Asif is very good, but Shoaib is better
They'll both be cleared, hopefully.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by cinderella We don't really care about their attitudes, just their ability to play. And Pak team is a lot stronger with Shoaib. Yes Asif is very good, but Shoaib is better They'll both be cleared, hopefully.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Hash As I have already said.... they are not contesting whether or not there was nandralone in their body. They are contesting the charge which is that they 'KNOWINGLY took a performance enhancing drug'. Knowingly, ofcoarse is the key word in the charge that the PCB has brought.

That's going to be hard to prove though. I suppose they're putting the onus back on the PCB to say "believe us".

[Hash]

Originally Posted by OZGOD That's going to be hard to prove though. I suppose they're putting the onus back on the PCB to say "believe us".

Possibly. But there is no way of knowing without actually having been in the hearing.

Who knows what they came up with? Maybe they have an explanation?

Time will tell.

[cinderella]

Oh come on, they'll be cleared They are needed.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Hash Possibly. But there is no way of knowing without actually having been in the hearing. Who knows what they came up with? Maybe they have an explanation? Time will tell.

I suppose all will be made known in due course. I believe in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. When's the hearing btw? Has a date been set yet?

[cricket_crazy]

PCB is no ACB...we are not run by discipline. Shoaib and asif are critical for our WC chances and I"m sure they'l be let off with a WI series ban and a heavy fine.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by cricket_crazy PCB is no ACB...we are not run by discipline. Shoaib and asif are critical for our WC chances and I"m sure they'l be let off with a WI series ban and a heavy fine.

it simply pisssses me off when someone sites ACB's example. so many people have posted numerous times, and let me repeat it, that ACB tried to hide their players' involvement in match fixing. have u firgotten that? OR DO u think thats a smaller offense than taking nadrolone?

secondly, like have said several times, many players in the past have been cleared even though the quantity of a banned substance in the samples was way more than both these players. Now if these guys can prove that they didnt take it intentionally, then y should they be banned for a long time?

PCB caught them, and PCB should protect them at all costs if they r innocent.