So the Indian "pop gun" attack has destroyed SA batting...

[MIG]

So much for criticism of Indian bowlers !
84 AO ! The pride of SA must have taken a good ol' bashing!

Based on comments about Indian batting etc by SA commies - I would imagine, huge amounts of Humble Pie being eaten at the Wanderers ! ( and also here at PP!)

[akram_rejuvinated]

Originally Posted by MIG So much for criticism of Indian bowlers ! 84 AO ! The pride of SA must have taken a good ol' bashing! Based on comments about Indian batting etc by SA commies - I would imagine, huge amounts of Humble Pie being eaten at the Wanderers ! ( and also here at PP!)

i say this should be our tactic from now on. sub continental teams must tag team some of these elitest white rascals like south africa and new zealand! let india soften south africa with a 1-0 or 2-0 victory in the test and then pakistan can rub insult into injury.

[in_cutter]

I knew Ind seamers would cause problems in these conditions, they generally disciplined in Tests ad bowl good line and lengths.

[batter]

Good effort by Indian pacers.

A thrashing by India will soften the South Africans for us. it will be to our advantage if India wins this series.

[volcyz]

Oh boy the arrogant Africaani's should think twice about giving Pakistan hard bouncy pitches... especially if Pakistan have Asif and akhtar firing...
SO much for wanting to unleash the pace battery of SA rofl...
Sreesanth was like bowling faster than most of them.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by volcyz Oh boy the arrogant Africaani's should think twice about giving Pakistan hard bouncy pitches... especially if Pakistan have Asif and akhtar firing... SO much for wanting to unleash the pace battery of SA rofl... Sreesanth was like bowling faster than most of them.

trust me they will ...India is doing well cos of its batting!

[shan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived trust me they will ...India is doing well cos of its batting!

249 in first innings which could easly have been 200 and now 67/4 is hardly a batting. India will win only if they bowlers perform.

[Mercenary]

Well this is one game on a specially prepared pitch (by all acoounts), lets see what happens in the rest of the innings and in India and SA's second innings before we call them saviours.

However Munaf, Sreesanth and Zaheer arent a bad attack at all. Plus they're missing Balaji who I rate quite highly.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by shan 249 in first innings which could easly have been 200 and now 67/4 is hardly a batting. India will win only if they bowlers perform.

249 is a good score in a pitch & wat do you mean it cud have been 200? I say it cud have been 300 ...!

[Easa]

45-7 at one stage. That would have been embarrassing for South Africa.

[shan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived 249 is a good score in a pitch & wat do you mean it cud have been 200? I say it cud have been 300 ...!

it's good score now! Even if India make 100 in 2nd innings it will still be a good score. You can't expect bowlers to bowl out team for 84 runs in any wicket which they did. All the credit should go to bowlers.

[161]

here's the deal.

saffies can deal with pace and bounce because they play on fast bouncy wickets...

but when it comes to swing and seam movement they are just an vulnerable as everyone else .

a little swing from sreesanth at some good pace and they folded.

also don't forget they are chokers.

for the first time india put up a decent total .. and the saffie bats didn't know how to react.

[inzidabest]

Its just to create interest in the series. just to pull the crowds in. Things will be back to normal soon

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by shan it's good score now! Even if India make 100 in 2nd innings it will still be a good score. You can't expect bowlers to bowl out team for 84 runs in any wicket which they did. All the credit should go to bowlers.

if you had seen india innings you wud know it was a good score..I di expect a innings lead for us ..though getting them for 84 is a good effort!

[shan]

Originally Posted by inzidabest Its just to create interest in the series. just to pull the crowds in. Things will be back to normal soon

not if saffies keep batting like this.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by inzidabest Its just to create interest in the series. just to pull the crowds in. Things will be back to normal soon

yeah ,things will be normal for pak series!

[shan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived yeah ,things will be normal for pak series!

don't u think u are reacting to early? India still need to win the match.

[KB]

Pakistan can learn from the length India bowled. They did not get carried away and bowl short on a pitch that offers more bounce than they accustomed to seeing in India. Sreesanth bowled fairly full, swung the ball and reaped the rewards.

Hopefully the Pakistani bowlers will not get carried away with the extra bounce as well.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by shan don't u think u are reacting to early? India still need to win the match.

I have been saying India will win the test series before the series started..am not surprised with the position we are in.!

[shan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived I have been saying India will win the test series before the series started..am not surprised with the position we are in.!

where u said this? give me link

[jusarrived]

just go thru my posts n last 2 months ,you will surely find a few !

[CrickFan]

Originally Posted by batter Good effort by Indian pacers. A thrashing by India will soften the South Africans for us. it will be to our advantage if India wins this series.

Well Srl Lankans too had softened up England ..but we all know what happened when Pakistan visited England

[Kashif]

Well, well, well!

I wonder what excuses the SA commies are coming up with now? Well done to the Indian 'pop gun' attack for a brilliant performance. It's not over yet but with a healthy lead, India will have to bowl very badly to loose.

[shan]

Originally Posted by Kashif Well, well, well! I wonder what excuses the SA commies are coming up with now? Well done to the Indian 'pop gun' attack for a brilliant performance. It's not over yet but with a healthy lead, India will have to bowl very badly to loose.

which they capable of doing.

[CrickFan]

Originally Posted by Kashif Well, well, well! I wonder what excuses the SA commies are coming up with now? Well done to the Indian 'pop gun' attack for a brilliant performance. It's not over yet but with a healthy lead, India will have to bowl very badly to loose.

Actually they have all jumped to Indian bandwagon and are rooting for India ..Symcox infact openly admitted that he is supporting India

[CrickFan]

Smith is a poor captain and clueless batsman at the moment

[siddharth]

Originally Posted by Mercenary Well this is one game on a specially prepared pitch (by all acoounts), lets see what happens in the rest of the innings and in India and SA's second innings before we call them saviours. However Munaf, Sreesanth and Zaheer arent a bad attack at all. Plus they're missing Balaji who I rate quite highly.

Is this the person who make "zilat " comment !!!.any way thanks for that comment

[zulfiqar]

ZILAT didnd't inlude Munaf and Sreesanth C'mon, you can take a good joke, can't you?

[siddharth]

Originally Posted by zulfiqar ZILAT didnd't inlude Munaf and Sreesanth C'mon, you can take a good joke, can't you?

It includes Zaheer,any way i am so happy that so called Indian "slow bowlers" wrapped up SA for 84 whereas the "fastest bowler" in the world is struggling to get a single wicket in domestic circuit

[Gunner786]

bring it on!!

if south africa are bowled out for 84 by india then they stand no chance against us!

[shan]

Originally Posted by gambino bring it on!! if south africa are bowled out for 84 by india then they stand no chance against us!

exactly u can just imagine what asif and akhtar can do to them. But still long way to go and SA still come back in this test match but it seem unlikely.

[b0wld]

The current SA Test squad is not as good as their ODI squad..no temprament exsists in them... i've seen them lose test series after series but their ODI form is quite remarkable...so nothing new

[Amir]

Originally Posted by gambino bring it on!! if south africa are bowled out for 84 by india then they stand no chance against us!

I am not liking this boarish attitutde from Pakistanis. Yes, India did well but they also atleast had some runs on the board for once. Sure our bowling attack is great, but not a certainity we will bowl them out for less than 100 each innings (or any innings).

South Africa will obviously get better over the test series and will be well prepared for us.

I am just concerned about our batting. We got ou tfor 89 in a ODI, can we atleast manage to put up a decent score over 200?

[shan]

Originally Posted by Amir I am not liking this boarish attitutde from Pakistanis. Yes, India did well but they also atleast had some runs on the board for once. Sure our bowling attack is great, but not a certainity we will bowl them out for less than 100 each innings (or any innings). South Africa will obviously get better over the test series and will be well prepared for us. I am just concerned about our batting. We got ou tfor 89 in a ODI, can we atleast manage to put up a decent score over 200?

SA has been getting away in ODIs because of restrictions in bowling. Remember 42/5 against Pakistan and then about 70/6 against India but still they got decent totals. But tests are different because your best bowlers will always bowl more so chances of lower oder batsman to score runs will be low. And most of the times in England bowlers let us down so with come back of Asif and Akhtar this problem will be solved.

[offcutter]

Why isn't Munaf Patel playing?

[Amir]

Originally Posted by shan SA has been getting away in ODIs because of restrictions in bowling. Remember 42/5 against Pakistan and then about 70/6 against India but still they got decent totals. But tests are different because your best bowlers will always bowl more so chances of lower oder batsman to score runs will be low. And most of the times in England bowlers let us down so with come back of Asif and Akhtar this problem will be solved.

Yeah but just because they got out for 84 today, does not mean they will get out for 84 every time (like some of you are implying). They been out of test cricket for a while, so they are getting back into the grooves of things.

I am not taking anything away from India, however Pakistanis must realize that SOuth Africa will only get better from here on in and will be better prepared for Pakistan.

Plus I wasn't orgianlly talking about SA batting, I am saying our own batting is a worry. If there is no restrictions, that works against us since we cannot just see off Pollock or Ntini.

[fight_club]

it was a very interesting day indeed for the touring asian country's. sri-lanka did a mallinga on a shell shocked new-zeland and India went a step further. they not only turned the tables but the entire ship on saffers.

I would attribute it to two main reasons.

1. India batted very well and took a brave decision, could have easily backfired with india getting all out on 100, which was very much possible on this pitch.
2. South african bowlers were culprit of over-confidence and taking the short-pitch stuff a little to long for their own comfort on a pitch which was prepared to provide extravagent movement to seamers they kept on pitching it very short in general.

going by the batting form of south africans it would be interesting what sort of pitches they will prepare for rest of the series i think Bouncy tracks would provide better chances.
Pakistan bowling looks alrite but their batting is going to be a major concern as we have failed to introduce a specialist no.6 in the current series a position which would be extremely important in South africa. Asif kamal should be in its already too late and we do not know what sort of form he is in.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by jusarrived trust me they will ...India is doing well cos of its batting!

nope, the indian bowlers did the job here. if anything, its the bowlers who will win the match for india. all indina batsmen need to do is hang on to give their bowlers a fighting total to bowl at.

[PlanetPakistan]

This is quite remarkable....I always thought that on paper this is the best Indian team to have ever toured SA and now they have started to perform on the field!
Well done to Gopu and friends!

[Mercenary]

Originally Posted by siddharth Is this the person who make "zilat " comment !!!.any way thanks for that comment

You took that seriously? Did the Pak fans take the SAAG, DAAG and GAND potential insults to our attacks seruiously too?

It was a joke so chill.

[hassanpp]

well that bowler did do good but you never know. india have lost some wickets and they may just get a hammering next time they bowl but the guy did bowl good

[TaZ]

India has NEVER won a single test in SA ever so this would be a significant achievement even if, as I expect, they lose the test series as a whole.

[jackal786]

I have watched India's all 3 previous tours to South Africa. One thing that this team has is bowlers who matched pace for pace and swing for swing with South African bowling. Indian batting was even better than South Africa's in couple of tours. This is the first time India had a decent pace attack. Prasad was hardly pacy. Even though he bowled well. He was not good enough to roll over a side.

If Pakistan wants to win the series 3-0 in South Africa they must drop these so called bits and pieces players and take 5 full time bowlers. 4 quick bowlers would be more rounded plus Kaneria. Shoaib, Asif, Gul, Kaneria and one more who can bowl different from the other 3 seamers. Ideally an outswing bowler. If you have that side Pakistan can roll them out for 50 runs. Pakistan has a superior attack to India atleast on Paper. Given the Yousuf's form, Woolmer's experience, Inzi's last tour to south africa i personally think Pakistan will both ODI and Test series. But the question is, will Inzamam go for such an all out attack bowling?

[AWAN IN A MILLION]

I must admit that I was surprised when I heard about the SA collapse. I little gutted may be as well. But after having time for it to sink in, I'm really happy for Srisanth...if he can do that then it just proves that our pace attack (whoever they may be) should be able to do the same. On Srisanth's super-human effort (in Indian terms)....well done.

[MIG]

And what is lesson for Pakistan here ?

We dont need to have the worlds fastest attack to dismantle South Africa ! India have done it with their "pop gun" attack - I hope people wake up to this truth...

[umerz]

well done to India ..but if they can do this ......what can't OUR AAG or SAAG attack do?

[invincible]

Originally Posted by MIG And what is lesson for Pakistan here ? We dont need to have the worlds fastest attack to dismantle South Africa ! India have done it with their "pop gun" attack - I hope people wake up to this truth...

There's this so called illusion around Pak attack that its FAST ... apart from Akhtar, there are none who are express fast and can bowl consistently over 140 ... they are pretty much the same if not slower than the likes of sreesanth, munaf and zaheer ...

[shan]

Originally Posted by invincible There's this so called illusion around Pak attack that its FAST ... apart from Akhtar, there are none who are express fast and can bowl consistently over 140 ... they are pretty much the same if not slower than the likes of sreesanth, munaf and zaheer ...

How many bowlers are in the world who can bowl at 150+? Just two and we got one. We got sami who consistently bowl over 140+. Munaf and Zaheer doesn't touch 135 marks now days. Sreesanth and Gul have same speed around 138-140.

[shan]

I think Pakistani fielders should take lesson from Indians fielders more then anybody else. They have taken some great catches especially at slips. Where our slip fielder love to drop.

[Truthteller]

Originally Posted by dhoni_ka_pankha i say this should be our tactic from now on. sub continental teams must tag team some of these elitest white rascals like south africa and new zealand! let india soften south africa with a 1-0 or 2-0 victory in the test and then pakistan can rub insult into injury.

I thought one of their main bowlers was Mahaya Ntini. Unless I have been born colour blind he did not and continues not to look white to me!

Are there any others who share my form of colour blindness.

[Genghis]

SA did lose Steyn on the first day. That must have been a massive blow to them, especially since he had troubled the Indians in the touring match.

[jackal786]

Originally Posted by genghis81 SA did lose Steyn on the first day. That must have been a massive blow to them, especially since he had troubled the Indians in the touring match.

He was spraying the ball all over in the first innings. He was one of the prime reason why South Africa could not use the pitch very well. He wasted everything. We have to take the fact that Indians are better used to the condition than at that point.

[jackal786]

Sreesanth clocked consistently 140 kph. So it is not pop gun attack. His 140 kph will look a yard quicker than it was because of his fantastic seam position. It is such an education for fast bowlers. His release and wrist position let the ball landing on seam every time and posing all sorts of questions. Seam position is extremely important. Hence the success of Mcgrath and Pollock. Sreesanth once again proved that point. Some of the balls he bowled were absolutely unplayable.

[akpower]

India has done well in this match, but one match is just that and nothing else. Sreeshanth does not become a legend after one game. SA didn't play particularly smart cricket as well. Happens to every team. They are still a solid team, and I expect them to be back in form for the remaining matches.

[XFactor]

SA was caught off guard in this test, in my opinion. They were overconfident and chose not to have too much of practice before the test. As a result they ( by their own admission ) were bowling one-day lengths on day one - that, coupled with the general spraying around they did, ensured that they could not take any advantage of the responsive pitch on day 1.

Indian bowlers were smart enough to learn from the mistakes SA made and bowl the right areas in their innings. And that set up the match.

The second test will be different, SA will have a much improved bowling plan, but i think they have already allowed India to get the much-needed confidence. India's batting should click in the next two tests, and it should be an interesting contest.