McGrath's 5-0 Prediction Tribute

[Muyazzim Khan]

Where are the Englishmen who ridiculed the legend that is Glenn McGrath for stating the Aussies will win 5-0? The man just doesn't talk the talk but he has walked the walk all his career. He proved how the Aussies missed him in the 2005 Ashes.

It was a privilege to watch this artist at work throughout his superb career, he will be missed by all true cricket lovers allover the world. I salute this champion cricketer for entertaining us for such a long long time. Good luck with the future Pigeon you will be missed mate.

[Easa]

He said it almost as a joke this time. When he actually meant it, in 2005, he made a boo boo.

[UJ]

Where was this thread after the 2005 series?

[Muyazzim Khan]

Well as McGrath put it losing to a "bunch of old blokes" must have been fun for England.

[Muyazzim Khan]

Originally Posted by UJ Where was this thread after the 2005 series?

Crucially McGrath missed two tests which cost the Aussies. For someone whom a lot of English folks and some idiots on this forum claimed to have been finished didn't do too badly this series taking 21 wickets. World No.1 Harmison took 10 wickets at a cost of 66 apiece. Well the old bloke isn't that bad in comparison.

We could do well to learn from Mcgrath instead of trying to ridicule him.

[Easa]

Nobody has said Harmison is better than McGrath, Muyazzim Khan. Harmison is woeful, England's version of Sami.

[Hash]

If McGrath had played in the 2nd Test at Edgbaston, Austrtalia would have won 5-0 last time as well.

[James]

The thing that gets me is that we played McGrath and Warne a lot better than previous Ashes - I always thought if we improved against them then Australia would be a lot easier to beat - however this has been the best Australian performance in an Ashes for a long time and they have won 5-0. Right from the first ball, its been a strange couple of months...what is important now is that a major review is launched (which to be fair, it has been) and the ECB aren't afraid to wield the axe.

It's one series, yeah - but the signs have been there, it has been coming for the last 14 months - it was an utterly embarassing and abysmal series, one of the worst test series in English history, and ruthlessly exposed how ill-equipped we are in various departments, considering our aim is to be the no.1 side in the world.

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by Whippy The thing that gets me is that we played McGrath and Warne a lot better than previous Ashes - I always thought if we improved against them then Australia would be a lot easier to beat - however this has been the best Australian performance in an Ashes for a long time and they have won 5-0. Right from the first ball, its been a strange couple of months...what is important now is that a major review is launched (which to be fair, it has been) and the ECB aren't afraid to wield the axe. It's one series, yeah - but the signs have been there, it has been coming for the last 14 months - it was an utterly embarassing and abysmal series, one of the worst test series in English history, and ruthlessly exposed how ill-equipped we are in various departments, considering our aim is to be the no.1 side in the world.

best performance for 86 years.....

What changes do you suggest in the English test team ?
On a side note....How is Vaughan now and will he be fit for the ODIs?

[Amoeba]

Not really appropriate to gloat on personal grief.
We didn't fare any better last two times we were there either did we?

[Noman]

Originally Posted by Whippy The thing that gets me is that we played McGrath and Warne a lot better than previous Ashes - I always thought if we improved against them then Australia would be a lot easier to beat - however this has been the best Australian performance in an Ashes for a long time and they have won 5-0. Right from the first ball, its been a strange couple of months...what is important now is that a major review is launched (which to be fair, it has been) and the ECB aren't afraid to wield the axe. It's one series, yeah - but the signs have been there, it has been coming for the last 14 months - it was an utterly embarassing and abysmal series, one of the worst test series in English history, and ruthlessly exposed how ill-equipped we are in various departments, considering our aim is to be the no.1 side in the world.

Clarke the bowler did infact a very good job, lee was expensiv, but he took many key wicket, it was not a one man show in the bowling department,--- I think England really tried well to play against Mac and Warne, but did forget that Clarke and Lee to is very dangeours bowlers.

[Muyazzim Khan]

Originally Posted by Amoeba Not really appropriate to gloat on personal grief. We didn't fare any better last two times we were there either did we?

The difference was that we didn't go under the false pretence of beating the Aussies and we didn't call them old and past it.

[Amoeba]

Originally Posted by Muyazzim Khan The difference was that we didn't go under the false pretence of beating the Aussies and we didn't call them old and past it.

Quite true - although you also see a lot of rubbish sprouted about Mcgrath and the boys here as well.

[zaf1986]

Originally Posted by Amoeba Not really appropriate to gloat on personal grief. We didn't fare any better last two times we were there either did we?

We managed to get all three matches into the final day - England had trouble streching SCG into the fourth day.

[BroskiBeat]

Originally Posted by Hash If McGrath had played in the 2nd Test at Edgbaston, Austrtalia would have won 5-0 last time as well.

oh really, well mcgrath played at old trafford and the oval so why didnt australia win these games then?

[Amoeba]

Originally Posted by zaf1986 We managed to get all three matches into the final day - England had trouble streching SCG into the fourth day.

Don't remember Perth getting past the 3rd day and that was only because the Aussies batted first.

[zaf1986]

Originally Posted by Amoeba Don't remember Perth getting past the 3rd day and that was only because the Aussies batted first.

I believe Perth did end on the final day - (true the Aussies didn't enforce the follow on but then they never do)

[Amoeba]

Originally Posted by zaf1986 I believe Perth did end on the final day - (true the Aussies didn't enforce the follow on but then they never do)

It didn't neither this time (4th day) or the previous time (3rd day).

[zaf1986]

I stand corrected.

[Muyazzim Khan]

Originally Posted by BroskiBeat oh really, well mcgrath played at old trafford and the oval so why didnt australia win these games then?

Okay you can be excused of your stupidity just this once as you come across as a fairly young child. McGrath was not even half fit in those matches, the Aussies were desperate to play him as Gillespie and Kasprowicz looked like shot duck. Therefore a less than half fit McGrath wasn't able to bowl at his penetrative best but they still didn't lose those matches.

[tradecars]

Respect!

[Hash]

Originally Posted by BroskiBeat oh really, well mcgrath played at old trafford and the oval so why didnt australia win these games then?

McGrath would have more than made up the 2 run difference between the two sides at Edgbaston and going into the 3rd test with a 2-0 lead the psychological state of the two sides would have been entirely different and Australia would have won 5-0.

Live with it, deal with it. England are crap.

[Noman]

Originally Posted by Hash McGrath would have more than made up the 2 run difference between the two sides at Edgbaston and going into the 3rd test with a 2-0 lead the psychological state of the two sides would have been entirely different and Australia would have won 5-0. Live with it, deal with it. England are crap.

and always has been,,,,

[BroskiBeat]

Originally Posted by Hash McGrath would have more than made up the 2 run difference between the two sides at Edgbaston and going into the 3rd test with a 2-0 lead the psychological state of the two sides would have been entirely different and Australia would have won 5-0. Live with it, deal with it. England are crap.

keep your hair on mystic meg

[Hash]

Originally Posted by BroskiBeat keep your hair on mystic meg

yaar ye kyaa bakwaas hai?

[Noman]

Originally Posted by BroskiBeat keep your hair on mystic meg

[jackal786]

Originally Posted by Easa He said it almost as a joke this time. When he actually meant it, in 2005, he made a boo boo.

IN that series Mcgrath did not figure in couple of tests where they lost. So that prediction doesn't count.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Hash yaar ye kyaa bakwaas hai?

Mystic meg is a famous astrologer/psychic who predicts the future.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by indiafan Mystic meg is a famous astrologer/psychic who predicts the future.

I know that. Didn't understand how it was relevent.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Hash If McGrath had played in the 2nd Test at Edgbaston, Austrtalia would have won 5-0 last time as well.

Thats a prediction, isnt it.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by indiafan Thats a prediction, isnt it.

errr no....predictions are usually about something which is going to happen in the future. I was stating my opinion about what could have happened in the PAST. Geddit?