Who Made God?

[qasim722]

This is probably the most asked question concerning the Creator. Every theist and atheist alike has thought about it, even if he/she could not answer it or did not wish or delve into it for fear for blaspheming. Indeed, the reaction of most Muslims is either to shun the question or answer it without giving an explanation by declaring 'no one it without giving an explanation by declaring 'no one made God because He is Eternal!. The confusion this creates for a sincere seeker of the Truth is that on the one hand Muslims (and other theists) use the argument that every effect requires a distinct prior cause to prove that our universe could not have always been there, nor did it make itself or for that matter come from nothing.


Therefore, It must have been created or caused to come into being by some separate entity (i.e. God). On the other hand, the same people appear to be anomalous in their line of argument of claiming that God was always there and was always there and was not caused. The questioner in this case is not denying that God exists, but merely in doubt that God exists, but merely in doubt as to how can God have always been there and had no beginning. In this article, we shall endeavor to put an end to this controversial question by using a unique approach…..

We need to first define what a Question is:
1. A Question is a sentence requesting information or an answer.

Now let us define what an Answer is:

2. An Answer is an explanation for an unknown thing that the question poses. Henceforth, we can safely state that the presence of an answer necessitates the existence of a question i.e. If there is no question, there will be no answer. So, for example, if we define that cat is an animal that cannot talk, and if someone then asks if the cat speaks Chinese, there is no answer to this question since it is a logical mistake as per the definition and it carries with it the supposition that the cat talks.

If we put the data concerning the cats into a computer answer the above question? It would probably be programmed to display on the screen: "Question is illogical." It would be an incorrect answer to say: "No the cat cannot speak Chinese," because the implication is that it can speak, although not Chinese. Equally incorrect is the answer to a different question, namely: "Can the cat speak?

Another question might be: "Is Germany the largest continent in the world?" Of-course the definition of Germany is that it is a Country and not a continent. But if one was to answer by saying: "Germany is not a continent: he would not be answering to the above question but rather to the question "Is Germany a continent?" But with regards to the question: "Is Germany the largest continent in the world?" it is an illogical question according to the definition of Germany (i.e. that it is a country).

On the other hand, if one answers by saying: "No, Germany is not the largest continent in the world," he would still not be answering as he is indirectly implying that Germany is a continent although not the largest.

It is important to show the illogical nature of questions that are asked about the essence of God e.g. "Who created God?"

At this point, let us remind ourselves of the usual definition of God: we believe that God created everything including time, space, matter, energy and life. Thus, logically, the Creator cannot be subject to the laws and concepts that He created -including Time and Space.

However, examining our above question about God, reveals that it carries with it an implicit assumption of time succession i.e. that God is subject to Time. The question: "who made/caused God?" implies that there was another thing/cause that existed before God existed period in time.

The question also carries the supposition that the supposed creator of God is also subject to Time since it was there before it created God. In fact, the question assumes that Time is an eternal law and not a created law and that Time was there before everything else, and everything else is subject to it.

This, however, is not correct. Time is just one of the laws of the universe and a mere creation of God. Time is no more than an effect that depends on the observer's motion and the speed of light, and can become zero (theoretically) i.e. Void. Since Time exists within the universe and God is not part of the universe (or part of any of His creation for that matter), it naturally follows then that God is subject to Time, is in fact not a question at all.

This is because the question then contains erroneous assumptions that make it inadmissible, nonscientific and meaningless. Such a question is not a question and therefore does not have a direct answer.

It is similar to asking: "How acute are the corners of a circle?" Because this question contains an intrinsic contradiction as per the definition of circles, it becomes totally unintelligible and hence nullifies its validity as a question i.e. effectively; the question does not exist.

Anybody advocating atheism ought to prove that time is absolute and eternal before posing the question, in the same way that someone who asks whether the cat speaks Chinese or not should first of all find out or prove that cats speak in the first place.

However, those of whom do not want to be manipulated, learn about Islam. The Islamic belief and subsequently the Islamic Way of Life are premised on the intellectual basis. Therefore, Islam is neither a religion nor a set of values and rituals that arise out of blind faith.

Rather, Islam is an Intellectual belief from which emanates comprehensive socio-political belief i.e. the belief in God-Allah (swt) and the word of God-the Qur’an.

Today the government has attained the ability to control you and the masses and it is time to break free from the yolk of this manipulation and learn about the truth, and the only truth that exists is the truth that is with Allah(The Creator of the Worlds).





Allah Hukebar.(GOD is great)

[Zechariah]

Human mind cannot even begin to try and answer that question, Glory be to Allah the lord of Mankind and the lord of the Universe SubhanAllah at his vastness of Power which makes the universe looks nothing!

Excellent article bro great read.

[nadeem]

If God has created everything then what can create God???? I mean God has created EVERYTHING therefore nothing could have created him. Simple, no?

[Gujar]

Originally Posted by nadeem If God has created everything then what can create God???? I mean God has created EVERYTHING therefore nothing could have created him. Simple, no?

Exactly. Everything can be traced back to ONE creator. If Allah SWT had been created, Naoozubillah min zalik, then who would be the creator of that creator?

[Khalil]

God is infinate and everywhere and in every atom of the universe

God is everything.

Are you God, am I God? No, no; God cannot be divided, God cannot be cut, God cannot be rent asunder, God cannot be scissored. You are no part of God; if God is Infinite, then you must be the whole God, not a part of God. We are all one and we are God

[entralinks]

Last confused by Khalil : Today at 19:21.

[m_sohail]

Originally Posted by entralinks Last confused by Khalil : Today at 19:21.

Brilliant.

[qasim722]

Originally Posted by Khalil God is infinate and everywhere and in every atom of the universe God is everything. Are you God, am I God? No, no; God cannot be divided, God cannot be cut, God cannot be rent asunder, God cannot be scissored. You are no part of God; if God is Infinite, then you must be the whole God, not a part of God. We are all one and we are God

You are a Pantheistic..........

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by entralinks Last confused by Khalil : Today at 19:21.

another Entra classic

[Taurus]

If you think of time as linear, then it's hard to answer this question. But time only really exists because we presume it does. Time could in fact be infinite and circular, and therefore, God is eternal.

[Easa]

Qasim yaar, do you mind giving credit to who wrote this originally? Doesn't seem like your work. Thanks.

Last confused by Khalil : Today at 19:21

That was a JAM.

[Khalil]

Originally Posted by qasim722 You are a Pantheistic..........

Panentheism is already strongly present in the Quran:

"Wheresoever you turn, there is the face of God." [Quran, II.115.]

[qasim722]

Originally Posted by Khalil Panentheism is already strongly present in the Quran: "Wheresoever you turn, there is the face of God." [Quran, II.115.]

First of all your interpretation is wrong,In Abrahemic religions most of the stress is given on Monotheism.Pantheism comes from polytheistic religions .In the Ayah you have mentioned Allah is pointing to Atheist to see his signs and recognize him.


One might not confuse Wahdat -ul- wujood with Pantheism because these two are totally different doctrines pantheism says everything is God but Wahdat -ul- wujood emphasize that God is God and Creature is Creature but the real existence is for God and there is no existence of creature by its own or without God so we cant say that creature has its existence. The deep meaning of Wahdat -ul- wujood can be understood by reading the sufi concept of God and Creature in the ideas of Ibn Arabi who contributed a lot in the development of this concept in Islamic Mysticism.

English word Pantheism means All is God but the Arabic word Wahdat -ul- wujoob just emphasize on that there is just single being in existence so wajud is single
English transliteration of Wahdat -ul- wujoob might be Monoism, Unity of being or unity of existence

[qasim722]

Qasim yaar, do you mind giving credit to who wrote this originally? Doesn't seem like your work. Thanks.

It was written by ISLAM.(a member of another forum)