Who will be Pakistan's next captain? [Merged]

[kablooee87]

With Inzamam on his way out, who will take over as captain? Is the job Younis Khan's or has the Champions Trophy failure (and some unwanted drama) done enough for the PCB to go with someone else?

[mooz]

Originally Posted by kablooee87 With Inzamam on his way out, who will take over as captain? Is the job Younis Khan's or has the Champions Trophy failure (and some unwanted drama) done enough for the PCB to go with someone else?

I think YK is far from an ideal candidate, esp in ODIS where his own place in the team is far from secured. However, I don't see them with any choice in the short term, unless they bring somebody put of the blue and make him captain, like they have done in the past with rameez, saleem malik, latif and moin. Don't think they have any candidates in their hat to pull such a stunt either.

[Nakhuda]

This thread was done yesterday when i voted for Younis Khan.

[OZGOD]

Why can't you have a separate ODI and Test captain? The OZ had it with Waugh and Ponting.

[Invictus]

Because we are not the Aussies and we dont like to do things in an orderly fashion. We are made for choas thats where we excel.

[hasan316]

Shoaib Malik Is a true Leader.

[down4whatever]

Afridi.

[Mr Mute]

What About Md Yousuf?
He changed his religion for this oppurtunity...right?
He s not that old either.He can lead Pakistan for the 2011 WC for sure

[WasimG]

He changed his religion for this oppurtunity...right?

Surely praying 5 times, growing the beard to a record length and pulling outa photo sessions wasn't required I'd think! And if his former religion (christianity) was an issue they wouldn't have made him the vice captain in the first place.

[saffer]

as an outisiders perspective i think younis Khan would make a good captain and a good ambassador....he seems to have the kind of qualities a person needs to be a charismatic captain ...

[SUPERSAMI]

YK is the only candidate I guess, Malik is an option but I don't think he would ever command the respect of the team.

[kayanni]

2 sep cpts as YK doesnt cut it in the ODI team

[ComedyCricket]

going through every phase we can come to one conclusion. Pakistan need an influential leader. And they can't find this is YK or Malik as they are to similiar to Inzy. Shahid Afridi gets the nod for both forms of the game. He already has an aura without being captain. The PCB are going to choose his because he is out going and are looking for a captain with style like his.

[Asim2Good]

who ever is next captain, I hope they pick him for long time. and don't follow step of 90s where in one match, we had 7-8 ex-captains playing together

[Saqlain_doosra]

Paksitan needs an aggrassive team man. afrdi suits the bill very well, we could see pakistan give us the supreise again

[ComedyCricket]

Yep the agressive man is Afridi. He has ten years left in him as he is only 26.

An Afridi led Pakistan will be a totally different look and a totally different era. I have a feeling with him they will be feared and could beat the aussies in tests.

[Savak]

Afridi as captain, Shoaib Akhtar as vice captain. These two need to be given some responsibility. It just might work.Both are aggressive, positive cricketers and thats what we need after 4 years of lethargy and laid back, defensive cricket.

[ComedyCricket]

Exactly. Laid back cricket has got Pakistan no where over the past few years. Appoint Afridi as captain and rise to dominance, or continue to struggle and not learn from previous mistakes.

Captain : Shahid Afridi
Vice Captain : Shoaib Malik

[PapaBear]

Originally Posted by Mr Mute What About Md Yousuf? He changed his religion for this oppurtunity...right?

Shame on you MUTE!!
Why dont you just stay MUTE and do us all a big favor!!

[Asim2Good]

and we complain abt PCB selections and we ourself suggesting Shoaib Akhtar And Afridi as captains. WOW

[ComedyCricket]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good and we complain abt PCB selections and we ourself suggesting Shoaib Akhtar And Afridi as captains. WOW

Have you not seen the recent events. Pakistan were bundled out first round. You sound like the type of guy to not learn from your mistakes if you truly believe Afridi as captain isnt the way forward.

[Wazeeri]

Yousuf for me

[ComedyCricket]

Afridi as captain leads to :

A charismatic and agressive leader who is inspirational.

- I am quietly confident with him as captain the world will fear and Pakistan will become the number one test team.

- As for the next world cup well all the bases will be there. They need to be turned on mentally.

With Afridi as captain Pakistan will be the best side in the world. It will bring out the best in him. This is the way forward. If the selectors appoint someone else all Pakistani fans are better off watching something else and taking up a new sport to follow.

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good and we complain abt PCB selections and we ourself suggesting Shoaib Akhtar And Afridi as captains. WOW

Afridi as captain would bring in more dominance to cricket. Shoib Malik shoud be there with him to help.

[Nauman]

Younis Khan, a captain should be someone with a level head, and Afridi and Malik arent.

[Asim2Good]

Originally Posted by ComedyCricket Have you not seen the recent events. Pakistan were bundled out first round. You sound like the type of guy to not learn from your mistakes if you truly believe Afridi as captain isnt the way forward.

yeah rite and Afridi ll win us WC who himself play a inn of 5-10 balls
or Akthar who miss match/es in every series coz of Injury.

[Asim2Good]

Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra Afridi as captain would bring in more dominance to cricket. Shoib Malik shoud be there with him to help.

just realised u guys are serious

[ComedyCricket]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good yeah rite and Afridi ll win us WC who himself play a inn of 5-10 balls or Akthar who miss match/es in every series coz of Injury.

Younis Khan can't even face half the ten balls Afridi can. Younis gets out after 5 balls for no runs. Afridi gets out after 10 balls for 30 runs. Younis Khan is not a world player. He is a poor captain as seen by the champions trophy failures and his poor batting in this world cup. He is nothing special and staying with him as captain is stupid. Who cares if he has a level head, so did inzy that got pakistan far in this world cup didn't it? try something new and adapt or continue to fail. Using your ideologies wil ensure constant failure. I hope you see reality.

[pomtree]

check the reputation of Afridi.how many times was panelized for cheating and bad manners. I vote Shoaib M as captain and Vice Captain will be Kamran

[Asim2Good]

Originally Posted by ComedyCricket Younis Khan can't even face half the ten balls Afridi can. Younis gets out after 5 balls for no runs. Afridi gets out after 10 balls for 30 runs. Younis Khan is not a world player. He is a poor captain as seen by the champions trophy failures and his poor batting in this world cup. He is nothing special and staying with him as captain is stupid. Who cares if he has a level head, so did inzy that got pakistan far in this world cup didn't it? try something new and adapt or continue to fail. Using your ideologies wil ensure constant failure. I hope you see reality.

ur posts suits ur user name very well

[Nauman]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good ur posts suits ur user name very well

[omad]

salam Bro

Many things r saddening with pakistani cricket

InsAllah Bob is safe now with the Almigthy .....

Afridi Is now the man for the job thank u bob for bringing the team to a unity. With the team as a unit all they need now is a burst of aggression they dont have to fear of the pressure of being single in a cricket game. Afridi the meaning of this name should b aggression... We win matches when we play with no fear and aggression and Afridi has these qualities and he can greatly use this effect on his team mates

[sarkar]

Originally Posted by ComedyCricket - I am quietly confident with him as captain the world will fear and Pakistan will become the number one test team.

nah not really..

but seriously
i dont think his place in both forms of the game is always definate.. esp when hes going thru a really bad patch of form..
therefore im 100% confident he will not be the captain however he would have had a really really really slight chance had be been scoring heavily..

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good just realised u guys are serious

It might be funny to you. Look as this for pakistani team sake, not for Afrdi hate. I understand you hat they guy but no one asking you to love him. We are talking about who would make better captain out of current bunch.

South Africa went with smith, who was aggrasive comapre to shaun pollock and it has paid off for them.

[Nauman]

Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra It might be funny to you. Look as this for pakistani team sake, not for Afrdi hate. I understand you hat they guy but no one asking you to love him. We are talking about who would make better captain out of current bunch. South Africa went with smith, who was aggrasive comapre to shaun pollock and it has paid off for them.

Smith is a consistent performer who deserves a place in the side on basis of his quality batting, cant say the same about Afridi.

[UJ]

A captain also needs to be able to perform consistently and have a secured place in the side.

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by sarkar nah not really.. but seriously i dont think his place in both forms of the game is always definate.. esp when hes going thru a really bad patch of form.. therefore im 100% confident he will not be the captain however he would have had a really really really slight chance had be been scoring heavily..

His bowling allows him to keep his place. I do think taht he will make good captain with his appraoch. His attacking and we want attacking captain for our players. We shoudl thank inzi for doing good job as cpatain and great as captain. With afridi as captain we have new era.

[Nauman]

You gotto be kidding me.

PS. Just saw your username, can clearly see where you are coming from.

[Asim2Good]

Originally Posted by Saqlain_doosra It might be funny to you. Look as this for pakistani team sake, not for Afrdi hate. I understand you hat they guy but no one asking you to love him. We are talking about who would make better captain out of current bunch. South Africa went with smith, who was aggrasive comapre to shaun pollock and it has paid off for them.

my freind I don't hate Afridi as long as he keep playing and performing for my country.
As for South Africa, by ur logic, they would have change captain to Justin Kemp by now as he is more agressive than Smith ? or to boucher who is very attacking now a days as well ?

[Rana]

why was this thread made? is afridi the next captain?

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by Nauman Smith is a consistent performer who deserves a place in the side on basis of his quality batting, cant say the same about Afridi.

He was unkown at the time. He played couple of matches. They picked as captain becuse they wanted a change. A fresh captain and some one who was different and had win on his mind all the time.

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by Asim2Good my freind I don't hate Afridi as long as he keep playing and performing for my country. As for South Africa, by ur logic, they would have change captain to Justin Kemp by now as he is more agressive than Smith ? or to boucher who is very attacking now a days as well ?

Kemp wasn't playing at time and captain is not the one who stands in front of oppsition and gives them the look of man out there to hun them. I will say boucher might be aggrassive in his batting apprach but he can't stand in from of oppestion and do what smith does.

[PapaBear]

No discussion required. YK
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests
53 95 6 4291 267 48.21 8050 53.30 12 19 529 18 64 0
ODIs
150 145 18 3960 144 31.18 5374 73.68 2 26 309 34 79 0

[Savak]

Responsibility does wonders to people. It just might be a blessing for Afridi with the captaincy on his shoulders. He can easily motivate the boys to do better.

[Phuzz]

Maybe captaincy would also make him a more responsible player, and bring out the best in him.

[Wasim_Waqar]

What we need to do is revamp the team and see who can take us forward and scrap the rest. The aim should be to create BOTH a new quality test team and ODI team looking ahead. Tests are important, but we need an Australian 1980s-style revamp.

The captain should only be picked AFTER the best XI is selected to avoid a scenario aka 2003 where Waqar was possibly leading the team without being good enough to be in it.

Asif, Gul, Kaneria, Younis and Yousuf are the only ones I believe should truly stay. Malik showed good application recently and is a nice enough guy but I would not trust him given that he fixed a domestic match. If he is willing to work on his bowling, then a 50/50. Maybe Rao, but I'm not sure.

I'm afraid I would never recall Shoaib Akhtar and Rana Naved. Akhtar is a liability, Rana is not getting younger. The openers are useless, Mahmood is past it as is Razzaq. Inzamam is a good player in tests but it's time to go. Akmal has been on a huge downward spiral and I think that Sarfraz Ahmed of u-19 fame is worth a punt.

I would be in favour of giving Salman Butt another go, he's very young and I believe he is the best of what we have.

I think that Afridi could be worth a punt as you need a character like his in the side, but I think his days may be numbered as quite often he is found to be totally insensitive to match situations. I do rate his bowling however, so it would be another 50/50.

Looking at the future, I would look at the following players:-

Rameez Raja (batsman)
Shahid Yousuf (batsman)
Sarfraz Ahmed (wicketkeeper)
Fawad Alam (all-rounder)
Anwar Ali Khan (bowler)
Akhtar Ayub (bowler)
Jamshed Ahmed (bowler)
Tariq Mahmood (leg-spinning all-rounder: query action)

Shabbir Ahmed is finished, as is Nazir, Akmal and Hafeez.

So my picks to STAY are:-

Younis, Yousuf, Asif, Gul and Kaneria. The young lads above should get a look-in.

[Prince]

Originally Posted by Hassan Mahmood What we need to do is revamp the team and see who can take us forward and scrap the rest. The aim should be to create BOTH a new quality test team and ODI team looking ahead. Tests are important, but we need an Australian 1980s-style revamp. The captain should only be picked AFTER the best XI is selected to avoid a scenario aka 2003 where Waqar was possibly leading the team without being good enough to be in it. Asif, Gul, Kaneria, Younis and Yousuf are the only ones I believe should truly stay. Malik showed good application recently and is a nice enough guy but I would not trust him given that he fixed a domestic match. If he is willing to work on his bowling, then a 50/50. Maybe Rao, but I'm not sure. I'm afraid I would never recall Shoaib Akhtar and Rana Naved. Akhtar is a liability, Rana is not getting younger. The openers are useless, Mahmood is past it as is Razzaq. Inzamam is a good player in tests but it's time to go. Akmal has been on a huge downward spiral and I think that Sarfraz Ahmed of u-19 fame is worth a punt. I would be in favour of giving Salman Butt another go, he's very young and I believe he is the best of what we have. I think that Afridi could be worth a punt as you need a character like his in the side, but I think his days may be numbered as quite often he is found to be totally insensitive to match situations. I do rate his bowling however, so it would be another 50/50. Looking at the future, I would look at the following players:- Rameez Raja (batsman) Shahid Yousuf (batsman) Sarfraz Ahmed (wicketkeeper) Fawad Alam (all-rounder) Anwar Ali Khan (bowler) Akhtar Ayub (bowler) Jamshed Ahmed (bowler) Tariq Mahmood (leg-spinning all-rounder: query action) Shabbir Ahmed is finished, as is Nazir, Akmal and Hafeez. So my picks to STAY are:- Younis, Yousuf, Asif, Gul and Kaneria. The young lads above should get a look-in.

His action was cleared sometime ago

[usman7]

how about shoiab akhtar... i think he would make a good leader if he was given a chance.. or even mohammad asif

[irfan]

Sorry but after Inzi Pak needs a captain with some intelligence & that certainly is not Afridi. Besides, making him captain after his various transgressions sends out the wrong signals.

[IM NOT YOU]

give asif captaincy. or afridi if you want to make a durastic change. but giving asif captaincy and responsibility may just be the trick.

[IM NOT YOU]

and to everyone who thinks younis khan should be captain... HE PLAYS CONTINUOUS HOOK SHOTS ON WIDE BALLS. his avg over the last 30 ODI's is under 20. do you really think he is responsible. not to mention he doesnt bowl. c'mon people this is not the answer

[Saqib]

What do you guys think of Mohammed Yousuf as the new captain of Pakistan ?
He has got the most experience after Inzamam, but Younis Khan will get the job...

[Phuzz]

Nah forget Yousuf, he doesn't come across as someone who would be a good captain. He's too laid back (similar to inzi), his fielding leaves a lot to be desired.

[Majestic_Inzi]

Originally Posted by fuzuk2007 Nah forget Yousuf, he doesn't come across as someone who would be a good captain. He's too laid back (similar to inzi), his fielding leaves a lot to be desired.

No to Younis

"he doesnt want to be a DUMMY captain"

[Blistering Barnacle]

Shoaib Malik was not involved in "match-fixing". Don't put him in the same boat as Salim Malik and others.

What you call his "match-fixing" was actually a protest.

[Blistering Barnacle]

YK would probably be alright as captain for ODIs if he batted lower down the order - around no. 5.

My first choice would still be Shoaib Malik for captain. If he doesn't command enough respect, I'd go with the recent idea of Afridi as captain.

[aks]

To decide who can be captain I think we first need to see who will keep their place in the side (since I assume most of you would agree that even the captain needs to earn his place in the side).

For ODIs the only definite players who should be on the team sheet are: Asif, Yousuf, Malik, Afridi

Tests: Yousuf, Y Khan, Asif, Malik

So looking at that only 3 are in both categories. I don't know the capabilities of Asif, but even if he is ideal captain material I would no way burden him with the responsibility now. I don't think Yousuf will make a great captain, maybe ok one, but we need a really good one now. Malik.. I don't know, I've heard lots of people say he can be a good one, maybe giving him this responsibility will make him step up that little bit extra.

Ultimately I see them giving it to Y Khan but I don't know if that's the best solution long term and I don't think he warrants a place in the ODI side right now. So maybe Khan for Tests and Malik/Afridi for the ODI?

[Wazeeri]

Where is the thread with the poll?

[BD-fan]

This thread is not needed in a time like this.

Please note: he will get axed no matter what because if the board has any brains will start to look for long term solutions which is the next World Cup at home. By 2011, I don't think the younger teenagers would allow him to be there. Recognise your strenght and give them the chances. They are the future. This may be a step back but for the better.

[Blistering Barnacle]

ComedyCricket, you mentioned that it was already done in another thread. That it was already decided: Afridi would be captain.

Here you are saying it should be done and if it's not then we should take up another sport to follow.

Which is it?

[KA$H]

Originally Posted by fuzuk2007 Maybe captaincy would also make him a more responsible player, and bring out the best in him.

will responsibility bring brains? common sense?

[Cric-PhotoPassionate]

Well, I want see Pakistan as Brazil of Cricket. We need to find captain and talent. New team with passion to win and thrist for highest level of cricket. I wish my dreams come true one day.

[waqar-uk]

Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle Shoaib Malik was not involved in "match-fixing". Don't put him in the same boat as Salim Malik and others. What you call his "match-fixing" was actually a protest.

Protest or no protest, what he did was truely a shameful act and I think up until that point he was rightly considered a future captain. Even Rameez asked him during post-match intereview about his actions and the negative impact this would have on his future. I would say maybe he will captain pakistan in future but for now I doubt it.

Knowing Pakistan, YK will lead the test and ODI saide, though seriously I would consider Afridi as an ideal ODI captain with an aggressive approach. Put it this way, there is no harm in trying it, we cant do worse than what we are doing at the moment!

[sms]

best for the next worldcup 20/20 in later this year.

[safehands46]

Its unfortunate, if shahid afridi can perform pakistan will be fine. If not then the whole thing will be worse than what we are experiencing now.

[the true passionist]

i dont think anyone other than Younis Khan is getting the captaincy, to be very honest.

[Oxy]

Like its ever going to happen!

But If does, the first decision he will make will be to DROP HIMSELF!

[Easa]

Younis Khan with Shoaib Malik as the VC.

[TheLegend]

He was going to be the captain before wagar became captain and then was dropped becaus of that reason. I think he has the temperment and experiance to be the captain .

As mohammed akram says in this article

http://www.surreycricket.com/news/su...y,5507,NS.html

What do you think ?

[WasimG]

He'll make a good 12th man captain.

[TaZ]

He cant. Surely his 'baby' is due in 3 months

[161]

Originally Posted by TaZ He cant. Surely his 'baby' is due in 3 months

i heard he is expecting twins this time around

[cricketplanet]

How about Shoiab Malik for Captian?

[Prince]

Please tell me you're joking lol. The guy's 32 and doesn't merit a place in either squad so how can he be captain

[faisalm]

Originally Posted by TheLegend He was going to be the captain before wagar became captain and then was dropped becaus of that reason. I think he has the temperment and experiance to be the captain . As mohammed akram says in this article http://www.surreycricket.com/news/su...y,5507,NS.html What do you think ?

That was in his peak. He is finished now and i think Malik would be a better captain as he is young and can lead the team for years to come adding some stability to the team.

[TheLegend]

I saw him captaining silakot stallions. Dont know how his captaincy is but he if very aggresive and maybe he could lead us

[True Pathan]

Originally Posted by usman917 YK is the only candidate I guess, Malik is an option but I don't think he would ever command the respect of the team.

I think that if younis khan isnt picked captain it should be afridi, not malik, not because i like afridi, but hes had more experience.

[ComedyCricket]

No its already done. The PCB has secretly elected Afridi as captain in both forms of the game. I say they should because thats my expression without knowing this information. But since i already know it then i agree with it. Afridi has been told that he is captain from after the Zimbabwe match. Already done, a good decision. Will be announced soon.

[ComedyCricket]

I have an informat who is close to people on the board in Pakistan. If he's telling me fibbs which he hasn't before then its not. But he hasn't before so i have to go with it.

[Zain]

I think to things can happen the PCB can either steady things and go for the natural choice, or if they are going to go for an all out change they might go with afridi or malik, mayb even akhtar.