Inzy Cautious Defensive Captancy costing Pakistan matches

Inzy Cautious Defensive Captancy costing Pakistan matches.

How long will it take for Inzy to realize that cautious defensive captaincy will not lead to Pakistan winning games, time and time again, with the opposition on the back foot. Inzy goes on the defensive to early and does not look to take wickets, often not having any slips in place as early as the 15th over.

WI were 2 wickets down early and struggling, but edges flew through the vacant slip region.

You can not Hope to contain the best batsmen if they get set, and that is the risk that Izny is taking, and it is backfiring with the likes of Lara, Ponting, Langer making Pakistan play with big hundreds...

Your Thoughts Please...

[Schiller]

Since I didnt see the match, I cant say how bad it was but him hiding behind hafeex and malik certainly shows what kind of a leader he is. Theres no excuse for that really!

You have to go for the kill when the opposition is down.

Originally Posted by Schiller Since I didnt see the match, I cant say how bad it was but him hiding behind hafeex and malik certainly shows what kind of a leader he is. Theres no excuse for that really!

i know you have made up your mind Umar and you wont change it. But you still havent told me why you dont call lara a coward when he "hides behind gayle, sarwan and sometimes even chanderpaul?"

I agree. Inzi's captaincy is costing us games but who else is there who would lead with a positive attitude?

The only names that come to my mind are:

Younis Khan
Shoaib Malik

[Geordie Ahmed]

Inzi's captaincy is below par but what to do? unless we give it to someone who is young we will have to give it to Younis Khan and play him in ODI's

As I said, Malik. Butt is too young.

[Geordie Ahmed]

the problem is that if Inzi is stripped of the captaincy would he also be kicked out of the team????

the problem with stripping Inzi of the captaincy is this, whatever momentum we have built up as a team will be gone. Its not just out there on the cricket field, but in the practice nets and in the dressing room. the whole dynamic of the team will change. and that may not be such a bad thing if it happened once every decade. But changing captains every other year is criminal. we need stability. whatever kind it is. we need to learn to make good decisions and stick with them.

I dont seem to understand why Inzi's captaincy is being judged by a game in which we had none of our top strike bowlers. its beyond ridiculous! how easily have people forgotten the thrashings we handed out to India when we were at full strength. and Inzi was a big part of that.

[hasanahmad]

i think he will only realise it when he loses his captaincy. he is too slow

[midwicket]

Why can't Inzi consult other players on the pitch? Why can't players make suggestions?

It's a team game.

[Hash]

bump

[AT1]

almost a year old

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Hash bump

I think a lot of bumpings will happen

30th january i said Inzi's captaincy was below par BUT i gotta say it has improved a lot since then!

[prepare]

considerin we beat india in india w.in w.i gave ausies god game in ausie and the form and performance ofthe team i disagreee with dropin inzi


the team is buildin momentum and inzi as the heartof it our top order batin bats with confidence because 'dont wory we stil have inzi to come' and his amazing average he proves we shouldn wory we do stil have inz to bat

[Hussain]

how the fortunes have changed

a year before we were just cursing Inzi for being defensive leader
and a year later
he is being praised for giving us the best year in terms of results for almost a decade

7 ODi victory on a trot (2 away ODI series wins)
1 test series win and drawing other 2 away series

Inzi has been the most successful captain of Pakistan since Imran KHan both in terms of time period served and results ( 36 ODi winsout of a total 56 and 7 test wins out of a total 17 tests as captain)

[Ayubi]

Had he not been criticised, he may never have changed. He needed to be criticised for his negative captaincy - good to see him improving! Keep it up Inzi!

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Ayubi Had he not been criticised, he may never have changed. He needed to be criticised for his negative captaincy - good to see him improving! Keep it up Inzi!

Yet many came after me and others, with knives and kuulharaay's, when ever we criticized the 'Old Shoaib'

oh the irony

[Ayubi]

Originally Posted by Monsee Yet many came after me and others, with knives and kuulharaay's, when ever we criticized the 'Old Shoaib' oh the irony

Excuse me?? Who's talkin about Shoaib here?

[team-pak]

Originally Posted by Ayubi Had he not been criticised, he may never have changed. He needed to be criticised for his negative captaincy - good to see him improving! Keep it up Inzi!

i dont think Inzi has changed at all. the team is responding to his captaincy now. it always takes a little time for the players to adjust to a new captain. if anything, Inzi has put us all to shame by showing us how to lead a young side to greatness. remember, he was criticized heavily for batting down the order, it worked didnt it?

[Long_Live_Pakistan]

wrong guy, wrong post , wrong time

after winning the series 2-0, scoring 431 runs, still his captancy is in doubts.
sorry mr guest, you will find plenty of his supporters here.

I didnt see ball to ball, but I m sure he must have been on spot.

[Long_Live_Pakistan]

Originally Posted by , Since I didnt see the match, I cant say how bad it was but him hiding behind hafeex and malik certainly shows what kind of a leader he is. Theres no excuse for that really!

what do you mean......
if it was about the photo sessions?
what you want him to do ...take his shirt off and start dancing, while yelling F*** off......

[HAFRIDI]

Originally Posted by Long_Live_Pakistan wrong guy, wrong post , wrong time after winning the series 2-0, scoring 431 runs, still his captancy is in doubts. sorry mr guest, you will find plenty of his supporters here. I didnt see ball to ball, but I m sure he must have been on spot.

this is about a year old

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Ayubi Excuse me?? Who's talkin about Shoaib here?

Oh the irony, now people are playing naiive too

Lately when Shoaib performed and some of us said "It is cause he listened to the criticism by all and sundry and that it is good for Pakistan"...we were told that is 'Rubbish Talk'

Now you are saying the same about Inzi and I am supposed to accept it on the face value

I say (Rubbish talk)^2

[Ayubi]

Originally Posted by Monsee Oh the irony, now people are playing naiive too Lately when Shoaib performed and some of us said "It is cause he listened to the criticism by all and sundry and that it is good for Pakistan"...we were told that is 'Rubbish Talk' Now you are saying the same about Inzi and I am supposed to accept it on the face value I say (Rubbish talk)^2

Yea well done again Miss Marple

Anyway that's besides the point as again you're drawing an incorrect parallel. Shoaib was Pak's best bowler against Australia but was still dropped for 9 months (very harsh IMO).
Inzi was a poor captain then as his results demostrated & so the criticism was warranted...

Is that clear or should I draw you a picture?

[feather]

^ Lol

[team-pak]

Originally Posted by Ayubi Inzi was a poor captain then as his results demostrated & so the criticism was warranted... Is that clear or should I draw you a picture?

this is a very narrow view in my opinion. captaincy should not be judged by results. particularly since you are focusing on the first view tests.

It took some time for the team to adjust to Inzi's captaincy which is understandable. But I dont think Inzi's captaincy has changed that much since he took over. the change has been in the players' attitude and team spirit which reflects Inzi's philosophy, as Woolmer himself has pointed out on many occasions.

[Ayubi]

Originally Posted by team-pak this is a very narrow view in my opinion. captaincy should not be judged by results. particularly since you are focusing on the first view tests. It took some time for the team to adjust to Inzi's captaincy which is understandable. But I dont think Inzi's captaincy has changed that much since he took over. the change has been in the players' attitude and team spirit which reflects Inzi's philosophy, as Woolmer himself has pointed out on many occasions.

Ok, then what should it be judged on?

The fact is Inzi's captaincy HAS changed - there's still room for improvement, but the signs are encouraging.

Whoever thinks that Inzi had all the tools to be captain when he took over, seriously needs to take their head out of the aloo vegetation field....

Inzi wasn't a natural skipper, he lost matches, got justifiable criticism and NOW.....seems to have turned over a new leaf.

Shabash Inzi

[team-pak]

Originally Posted by Ayubi Ok, then what should it be judged on? The fact is Inzi's captaincy HAS changed - there's still room for improvement, but the signs are encouraging. Whoever thinks that Inzi had all the tools to be captain when he took over, seriously needs to take their head out of the aloo vegetation field.... Inzi wasn't a natural skipper, he lost matches, got justifiable criticism and NOW.....seems to have turned over a new leaf. Shabash Inzi

ofcourse Inzi is by no means a complete captain. i guess my point didnt get across properly. there are lots of things Inzi lacks as a captain. that is no secret.

having said that, the point is that Inzi is still the same captain he was when he first came in. you keep saying he has changed, but unfortunately this does not make it so. if you have any concrete examples to back this up i'd like to hear them.

just saying that "he was losing earlier and is winning now" is baseless. winning and losing is a product of how the team plays, not how good the captain is. does england's loss suddenly make vaughan a bad captain?

[Long_Live_Pakistan]

Originally Posted by team-pak ofcourse Inzi is by no means a complete captain. i guess my point didnt get across properly. there are lots of things Inzi lacks as a captain. that is no secret. having said that, the point is that Inzi is still the same captain he was when he first came in. you keep saying he has changed, but unfortunately this does not make it so. if you have any concrete examples to back this up i'd like to hear them. just saying that "he was losing earlier and is winning now" is baseless. winning and losing is a product of how the team plays, not how good the captain is. does england's loss suddenly make vaughan a bad captain?

No indeed he is a good captain....he has scored like 70 runs in 2 test matches.........so what wud you prefer...soemone who is a bit sharp in the field, but never delivers.....or who is a little laid back but delivers when matters. Micheal Vaughn's batting has gone so pthetic that only way he can lead from the front is, to play as an opener.

Yes Inzamam is not a natural captain but he has learnt n learnt quickly. I remmber Imran critisized his tactics too, when pakistan lost hte first test match in India, but when the series was over, he had to say, Inzi has matured as captain. (dont take me wrong, I m Imran's biggest fan alive).

and even Botham/david lloyd n Bob have admired him, not only his game but his leadership, too.

[safehands46]

He is winning he deserves his appluase. But tactically he isnt as experienced as Imran was. SO I think to expect as much would be pushing it.