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22nd July 2007, 14:56
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Yeah I did, Shastri was reluctant to call him a 'legend' as Nasser was, and believes he needs another 5-6 years to cement his 'legendary' status, the stats showed that he has fared well against all opposition bar one, surprise surprise Pakistan, where he has an average of '42' well below his current average.
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22nd July 2007, 15:06
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Basically it went something like this:
Nasser started off by asking Shastri where he puts Pieterson amongst todays great players (I think Nasser expected him to say straight away he is a great). Shastri: "well he has all the attributes to be a great in the next 5-6yrs" Nasser then went on to say "Pieterson is better than Tendulkar on current form" (which is pretty obvious), and Shastri agreed. Then they went on to show the batting rankings where Nasser was boasting "No Sachin", Shastri: "If Sachin scores a match winning hundred in this match, he will be right back in the top 10"...then there was a stat comparing Sachin & Pieterson after 28 matches, where Pieterson is ahead (averaging 54, compared to Sachin's 47). Shastri gave a good response by saying: "you have to bear in mind Sachin was only aged 16 when he started his international career". Nasser moved to viewers emails where one email stated Pieterson will be better than Sachin. Shastri: "well we have to wait and see, anything can happen in the the next 10yrs, injuries, form etc". Shastri then capped it off brilliantly by saying "well Nasser, Pieterson cant go on to say he is fatigued then" 
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22nd July 2007, 16:38
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England are without Harm, hogg, flintoff and jones(is he still alive?) have Good openers n middle order, pryor is also a good prospect. Bopara scored 69 and 117* in the current match.
Add Adil Rashid with his 91*, can also bowl! England have a strong team and squad.....futures looking good!
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22nd July 2007, 16:48
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English ppl always exaggerate.......there is no point in comparing an all time great to KP......probably they will come up with something like "on current form he is better than Sir Don......." obviously who isn't in this world anymore.....
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22nd July 2007, 16:52
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22nd July 2007, 20:21
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From 19 year-old off-spinner to 27 year-old world-class batsman. It's not really fair to say Sachin was only 16 on Test debut, because Pietersen took just six years of sustained cricket as a batsman to become the run machine he is today (I'm going from Notts debut to England debut rather than to the present day). It's a phenomenal story really, something of a fairytale if you like those bleeding things.
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22nd July 2007, 20:57
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Basically it went something like this:
Nasser started off by asking Shastri where he puts Pieterson amongst todays great players (I think Nasser expected him to say straight away he is a great). Shastri: "well he has all the attributes to be a great in the next 5-6yrs" Nasser then went on to say "Pieterson is better than Tendulkar on current form" (which is pretty obvious), and Shastri agreed. Then they went on to show the batting rankings where Nasser was boasting "No Sachin", Shastri: "If Sachin scores a match winning hundred in this match, he will be right back in the top 10"...then there was a stat comparing Sachin & Tendulkar after 28 matches, where Pieterson is ahead (averaging 54, compared to Sachin's 47). Shastri gave a good response by saying: "you have to bear in mind Sachin was only aged 16 when he started his international career". Nasser moved to viewers emails where one email stated Pieterson will be better than Sachin. Shastri: "well we have to wait and see, anything can happen in the the next 10yrs, injuries, form etc". Shastri then capped it off brilliantly by saying "well Nasser, Pieterson cant go on to say he is fatigued then" w.tf bro?
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22nd July 2007, 22:07
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To the generation of kids in England (and many cricket-loving kids outside England) who are growing up watching him, KP already is a legend. He has scored a Test 100 against every country he's played against so far, and you can't ask more than that. Crustier older generations like me might take more convincing, but he's certainly well on the way to legendary status even in my book!
We're at the end of a period in Test cricket which I'm sure will be remembered in years to come as a golden age, where Test cricket produced unprecedented levels of excitement, and every major Test-playing country had at least one legend in their ranks. Australia, with just about a whole team of them (many retired or about to), India with Tendulkar and Dravid, SA with Kallis, Smith, and Ntini, Sri Lanka with Murali, Jayasuriya, Sangakkara and others, Pakistan with Shoaib Akhtar, Inzi, and Mohammed Yousuf, England not so big on individual talent, but a truly formidable outfit under legendary captains Nasser Hussain and Michael Vaughan, and including the legendary Freddie Flintoff. Even the poor West Indies had Brian Lara, one of the greatest players ever to hold a bat, and the Kiwis had highly rated captain Stephen Fleming, the under-rated Daniel Vettori and the truly awesome (when fit) Shane Bond. The players mentioned are going to be a very hard act to follow, but I think unless the wheels come off big time, KP is going to be very much remembered alongside these players, and might even rise above some of them.
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22nd July 2007, 22:24
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well thought of Shastri that tendu going into top 10 with a match winning 100 can be thrown out of the window now...btw how can he jump from number 16 into top 10 by just scoring 100....oh well only shastri can exp that..
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22nd July 2007, 22:46
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Ofcourse he will.In my opinion his stature is already higher than Sangakkara,Akhtar ,Vettori,Bond ,Yousuf ,Nasser hussain ,Vaughan .May be exaggeration ,but my personal opinion. He is the biggest superstar of this era . 
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23rd July 2007, 01:28
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Is it just me or is there someone else here who hasnt been bit by the KP bug yet?
Yes, he's an exciting player, but comparing him to Viv, Tendulkar, etc.? Give me a break! He's only been playing a short while. Any comparison with Tendulkar is stupid. Tendulkar can still play shots KP can't dream of. KP is by no means a genius like Tendulkar, Lara, Viv, were. He is a good hard working busy player with some solid stroke play. English media is going way over the top praising him after years of boring conventional batsmen like Atherton, Thorpe, and now now Ian Bell, etc.
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23rd July 2007, 05:12
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KP is one the best from the current crop of players and no doubt has the ability and skill to go on and become one of the greatest. But he is not a legend yet. He hasnt played long enough to be one. Legends are not made over the course of three four seasons. Its not just about scoring runs its about scoring runs for a consistant amount of time.
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23rd July 2007, 06:35
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As for Asif dominating Pieterson, its true ! But many batsman have sufferend against certain type of bowlers ... Sachin for instance had his share of problems with McGrath, Pollock ... Lara struggled against the Indian spinners a bit ... Today, if there is one batsman who has the potential to be an alltime great, its Pieterson ... No one else !
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23rd July 2007, 09:05
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I think that he has the talent to be the next viv. I mean the guy is ruthless big and ruthless.
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23rd July 2007, 10:43
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he has the potential to be a great
he has the potential to be a legend but he is NOT ONE YET he is one of the top batsman of the world TODAY legends describe those who throughout a lifetime of cricket have shown true character, who have amazed the world with their cricketing feats, who many many many years later cricketers aspire to be as good as them he aint a legend yet he's very good but not a legend yet
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23rd July 2007, 19:00
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Only on home soil-useless if the bowl does not swing, seam or bounce-hence their defeat in pak after the ashes
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23rd July 2007, 19:52
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I wouldnt talk about anyone being LEGENDS unless they have got atleast 7-10 years in the International Game
Just like Cricinfo doesnt count records unless someone has atleast a certain number of games under his belt. He is very very good and a threat to all opposition. Let us not weigh him down with the "Legendary" Status yet.
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23rd July 2007, 20:20
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Agree completely with the comment about him becoming the next Viv.
There are some players who score a lot of runs but fail to impress ie Sehwag and then there are others who score a lot of runs and are clearly special. Pieterson is in the latter category, he can play shots which a lesser mortal can't and that what makes him a great. The one shot which I made me a believer was against Australia in the Ashes, a slightly fullish short ball was dispatched to the long on.
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24th July 2007, 05:25
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I think these experts and commentators should compare apples with apples not apple and oranges. No doubt Sachin may not be in good nick but Peterson didnt even scored half of the runs Sachin scored. May be Sachin is going through a patch or may be he is getting old, but a peterson in his twenties shouldnt be compared with a Sachin in his mid thirties.
It is like saying in last test series of Sir Don Bradman two aussies averaged higher than Bradman Batting I NO Runs HS Avge A.R.Morris 9 1 696 196 87.00 S.G.Barnes 6 2 329 141 82.25 D.G.Bradman 9 2 508 173* 72.57 And if we start saying on current form Morris and Barnes are greater batsmen than Bradman.
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