Should Pakistan Allow an Air Strike Against Bin Laden?

[Saj]

Pakistan has again said it opposes any military strike by the United States against Osama Bin Laden, if he is confirmed to be in Pakistan.
Foreign minister Khurshid Kasuri told the BBC public opinion in his country would not tolerate such an attack.

He said he was concerned that any US operation against Bin Laden could lead to dozens of civilian deaths.

Washington has said nothing can be ruled out in the pursuit of the al-Qaeda leader.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said the US recognised Pakistan's sovereignty, but the Bush administration always maintained the option of striking actionable targets.

Earlier Mr Kasuri had said that Bin Laden was not in Pakistan.


Do you think that Pakistan should allow any such air strike against Bin Laden if he was in Pakistan?

[Toony™®]

errr..no.

[Farhan!]

No

[pakistani_banda]

hell no, and who cares about pakistan. usa will strike pakistan anyway like they did before, and wat did the pak govt do. nothing !!!!!
and wat death of civilian lives is he talking about , wat about all those civilians who died on may 12th ???

typical hypocrytes.

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by pakistani_banda hell no, and who cares about pakistan. usa will strike pakistan anyway like they did before, and wat did the pak govt do. nothing !!!!! and wat death of civilian lives is he talking about , wat about all those civilians who died on may 12th ??? typical hypocrytes.

what he said!

[waqar_ahmad]

hell no, no foreign military should be allowed to strike in another country

[siddharth]

What Bin laden is doing in Pakistan?

[Zechariah]

The asnwer to your question SAJ is NO, we can do whatever we want by ourselves, they have no right attack our country.

[Fessal]

Well if the USA wanted to take military action I doubt they will give a tupence what Pakistan thinks. They WILL do as they please so I would personally say NO but yes if they were going to bomb anyway then may as well keep them on our side for the selfish purpose of Pakistan and it's own existance.

[shahzad_1]

If America ever try to enter our land, Pakistan army should respond with full power and crush them. When would Pakistan realize that USA is not their friend.
When would we use our force, we have such a big army and so much weapons, I don't see us using those any near in future. So, might as well use it against USA now.

If I was a president of Pakistan (that's why I am not) I would have gone after USA in Afghanstan by now. They are after our nuclear plant, they are finding excuses after excuses to invade Pakistan to my opinion.

Mushy should put Pakistan on Red alert and go after them now. They are in deep **** right now, getting busted in Iraq and in Afghanstan as well.
Lets put this devil to sleep....
Lets cure this disease forever.

Now is the right time to call people to unite for common cause

[JammydodgA]

Should Pakistan Allow an Air Strike Against Bin Laden?

No but I'm not convinced america would ring up and ask permission before authorising an air strike.

[kablooee87]

It was absolutely unacceptable for a foreign nation to make air strikes on our territory while pretending to be helping us. NO. If anyone should be doing it, it's the Pakistan army.

[Fessal]

Originally Posted by shahzad_1 If America ever try to enter our land, Pakistan army should respond with full power and crush them. When would Pakistan realize that USA is not their friend. When would we use our force, we have such a big army and so much weapons, I don't see us using those any near in future. So, might as well use it against USA now. If I was a president of Pakistan (that's why I am not) I would have gone after USA in Afghanstan by now. They are after our nuclear plant, they are finding excuses after excuses to invade Pakistan to my opinion. Mushy should put Pakistan on Red alert and go after them now. They are in deep **** right now, getting busted in Iraq and in Afghanstan as well. Lets put this devil to sleep.... Lets cure this disease forever. Now is the right time to call people to unite for common cause

it's not as easy as that shahzad. usa have many allies like uk who would help them.

[jusarrived]

No , In that case pakistan can use nuclear weapons as a deterent ..........allowing these american to land in pakistan was a mistake , let alone bombing your areas.

[Daoud]

Hell no. Allowing something like that would be going way too far and would be the day where the government finally completely fails in its purpose (some might argue that has already happened though). Although attacking the US in Afghanistan would be complete idiocy as well

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by siddharth What Bin laden is doing in Pakistan?

he is training at the national cricket academy in Lahore for the 20 20 WC.
what sort of a question is that?

[Mercenary]

Musharraf should make a public announcement before the Worlds media to say that if any country sends a missile into Pakistan, we will send a missile back into the nearest target belonging to that country.

If USA send in a missile then send one back.

The US army is stretched to breaking point. If Pakistan makes a move, I've no doubt Iran will join in because they know they're just waiting for the inevitable anyway.

I doubt the USA would be that stupid.

I mean Afghanistan had no real weapons, Iraq was stripped of all its weapons and destroyed by the decade long war with Iran.

Pakistan with its large armed forces and nuclear bombs isnt the sort of place you want to tangle with when your so thinly stretched already.

[Mercenary]

But if we know where OBL is, we should arrest or assassinate him.

We dont need him spreading even more terror than we already have!

[HillRock]

Who are those 4 scumbags voted yes (so far)? care to explain their reasoning?

[aussie-pak]

Originally Posted by HillRock Who are those 4 scumbags voted yes (so far)? care to explain their reasoning?

i was thinking the same thing!

[aussie-pak]

look i dont think throwing a nuclear missile at US, would help, pretty sure that they will send pak back a few 100 years , pak also dont have any ICB missiles. though, ATM pak really needs to put a stamp on where it stands. also, where would china come in?

[Zechariah]

Originally Posted by HillRock Who are those 4 scumbags voted yes (so far)? care to explain their reasoning?

They must hate Pakistan so much...

[Genghis]

Hell no ... if there's a dirtbag such as OBL in Pak, you would think the Pak forces should be able to take care of him. Anyways I think in all likelihood OBL is dead and burried!!!

[Zeenix]

Osama Bin Laden is Dead, and dead due to kidney failure. Not many people know but he needed regular dialysis and before the war in afghanistan started he used to visit Khyber Teaching Hospital to get his dialysis done. After the war it wasn't possible and he died. This is well known in Pak and US intelligence circles. No need to mention that OBL is a cashable commodity for the US and he'll live in the books until he is required by the US to live. And if anyone thinks that US can afford Pakistan animosity in Afghanistan need to get a reality check. This is why all people knowledgeable, were exasperated at Musharaf unconditional surrender to US Demands. They knew they had lots of ground to bargain on, and a much better bargain could have been achieved, but for the IDIOT and coward Mush.

[ragoo52]

there was a report that came out about 5-6 months ago that quoted very high saudi officials that said osama bin ladin was dead.....i think he is dead too.........

[the Great Khan]

Osama Bin Laden is Dead, and dead due to kidney failure. Not many people know but he needed regular dialysis and before the war in afghanistan started he used to visit Khyber Teaching Hospital to get his dialysis done. After the war it wasn't possible and he died. This is well known in Pak and US intelligence circles. No need to mention that OBL is a cashable commodity for the US and he'll live in the books until he is required by the US to live. And if anyone thinks that US can afford Pakistan animosity in Afghanistan need to get a reality check. This is why all people knowledgeable, were exasperated at Musharaf unconditional surrender to US Demands. They knew they had lots of ground to bargain on, and a much better bargain could have been achieved, but for the IDIOT and coward Mush.

once again i agree totally...OBL is dead..he died in december 2001..his funeral announcement was in the egyptian papers..you can find it on the net..

to those posters who are saying the Pak army will do this or Mush will do that if the US bombs areas in Pakistan..wake up..they wont do anything as its already happened and those same individuals on this site have been cheering!!...Mush has sold his soul to the US and will do anything for them to stay in power!...the army will follow because of their discipline(which is now a liability)..sit back and watch as the US pounds the northern areas and Mushy says the army is doing it!!...im sure the cheer leaders will be procalaiming their loyalty to the mughal-e- azam when the next madrassa is bombed with children in it!!...

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Zeenix Osama Bin Laden is Dead, and dead due to kidney failure. Not many people know but he needed regular dialysis and before the war in afghanistan started he used to visit Khyber Teaching Hospital to get his dialysis done. After the war it wasn't possible and he died. This is well known in Pak and US intelligence circles. No need to mention that OBL is a cashable commodity for the US and he'll live in the books until he is required by the US to live. And if anyone thinks that US can afford Pakistan animosity in Afghanistan need to get a reality check. This is why all people knowledgeable, were exasperated at Musharaf unconditional surrender to US Demands. They knew they had lots of ground to bargain on, and a much better bargain could have been achieved, but for the IDIOT and coward Mush.

US backing is the only thing keeping mush in power right now, and mush will do anything to keep US sympathies with him. the US will pound the northern areas, and the foreign office will keep giving statements like "this was an irresponsible act" blah blah and all that shittt. the fact is that mush does not have the balls to stand up for what is right.

[waqar_ahmad]

who r these 8 guys who voted yes. and after voting, they werent even brave enough to post their reasons.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Mercenary Musharraf should make a public announcement before the Worlds media to say that if any country sends a missile into Pakistan, we will send a missile back into the nearest target belonging to that country. If USA send in a missile then send one back. The US army is stretched to breaking point. If Pakistan makes a move, I've no doubt Iran will join in because they know they're just waiting for the inevitable anyway. I doubt the USA would be that stupid. I mean Afghanistan had no real weapons, Iraq was stripped of all its weapons and destroyed by the decade long war with Iran. Pakistan with its large armed forces and nuclear bombs isnt the sort of place you want to tangle with when your so thinly stretched already.

Umm No, Pakistan's doesnt possess a missile that can carry any warhead to the US..

[Daoud]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Umm No, Pakistan's doesnt possess a missile that can carry any warhead to the US..

He said nearest target belonging to that country. The US has numerous naval targets in the Gulf. Still a retaliation from Pakistan isnt going to happen

[aussie-pak]

bro, *** is wrong with the pak military, they have such a high budget just for fn military. is this budget only set becuase "india has high budget lets have a high budget aswell"? . srsly this is pathetic.


this is what should hapn if US bomb northern pak: pak retaliate, then c china jump in, followed by russia and Iran, then all these countries gather together and blow US back into the 12 century, .....and australia stay out of it..

oh wouldnt that make my day!

[Hash]

If the Americans have any specific intelligence about the wherabouts of some terrorist militants then they should share that intelligence with us. No country has given as much to the war on terror as us.

We have given more than every other country put together. We have 75,000 troops in the tribal areas, we have arrested and killed thousands of militants and have lost hundreds of soldiers while doing so.

If America send a plane into Pakistan we should shoot it down and if they send a missile into Pakistan we should send a missile into one of their bases in the gulf. Short of that.....we should end all cooperation with them on the war on terror and concentrate onsaving our own people from these ******* terrorists.

And Karzai can shut the **** up as well. All he blabbers on about is 'Pakistan needs to do this, Pakistan needs to that'......ummm, no mate........YOU need to sort your own hell hole of a country out. Not us! We are responsible for curbing infiltration into Pakistan and you are responsible for curbing infiltration into Afghanistan. We cannot be expected to do both while you sit in your armchair sipping your Afghani chai.

[Mercenary]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad who r these 8 guys who voted yes. and after voting, they werent even brave enough to post their reasons.

probably non-Pak posters

[Talisa]

I voted No and I can't think why anyone would vote yes.
I believe that Bin Laden has been dead for a very long time.

[MIG]

Question is - what are we going to do about it if the US does launch an airstrike ?

I suspect, not much apart from burning a US flag or some mishapen effigy of Bush .

Will anyone in the world sympathize with us ? Will the Muslim world march to our help in even a diplomatic sense - MAYBE.

[shahzad_1]

Originally Posted by Mercenary Musharraf should make a public announcement before the Worlds media to say that if any country sends a missile into Pakistan, we will send a missile back into the nearest target belonging to that country. If USA send in a missile then send one back. The US army is stretched to breaking point. If Pakistan makes a move, I've no doubt Iran will join in because they know they're just waiting for the inevitable anyway. I doubt the USA would be that stupid. I mean Afghanistan had no real weapons, Iraq was stripped of all its weapons and destroyed by the decade long war with Iran. Pakistan with its large armed forces and nuclear bombs isnt the sort of place you want to tangle with when your so thinly stretched already.

Agree, That what I was thinking too. For how long pakistan would keep taking harassments from USA.

Pakistan should tie up with Iran and should go after USA.

[Mercenary]

Originally Posted by MIG Question is - what are we going to do about it if the US does launch an airstrike ? I suspect, not much apart from burning a US flag or some mishapen effigy of Bush . Will anyone in the world sympathize with us ? Will the Muslim world march to our help in even a diplomatic sense - MAYBE.

Much as we cry for Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. I dont think they'll be bothered by it.

[Zeenix]

MIG:
As i said, US can't afford to have an enemy so close. And if a full fledged attack is launched in Wazeeristan, think about the instability it will bring. Either Pakistan will respond or else Musharaf will have to pay with his job and possibly his life. Do you think the PRO AMERICAN Govt will be able to withstand it. I don't think US would want to make its ally job difficult. Official circles in Pakistan acknowledge the fact that Since the Govt is in pretty hot soup, US is trying its best to take maximum advantage of it, to pressurize Pak govt further so that it be further bended.

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by shahzad_1 Agree, That what I was thinking too. For how long pakistan would keep taking harassments from USA. Pakistan should tie up with Iran and should go after USA.

Lad snap back from your dream and into reality! What you say sounds very brave when typed up on a forum but in the real world it sounds idiotic.

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by aussie-pak bro, *** is wrong with the pak military, they have such a high budget just for fn military. is this budget only set becuase "india has high budget lets have a high budget aswell"? . srsly this is pathetic. this is what should hapn if US bomb northern pak: pak retaliate, then c china jump in, followed by russia and Iran, then all these countries gather together and blow US back into the 12 century, .....and australia stay out of it.. oh wouldnt that make my day!

Yes what a great thought! Why didn't we think of it? Let's start World War 3

[Wazeeri]

By Attacking Pakistan the USA will unite the tribals with the Pakisani army and they will have to deal with a mixture of conventional and gorilla warfare.

[Mercenary]

USA would never try to invade Pakistan because...

* if they do Musharraf will be out of power before they blink. The gvt replacing him will likely be a radical Islamic one.

* The Pakistan army and the ISI will not be an easy opponent.

* the tribal areas will launch a guerilla attack and the terrorists attacking Pakistani cities will have a new target

Not a good idea at all.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Wazeeri By Attacking Pakistan the USA will unite the tribals with the Pakisani army and they will have to deal with a mixture of conventional and gorilla warfare.

u see that is the problem. the US is deliberately creating rifts between teh pak army and tribals so that thay can not find together in the future. in case of a war, the tribal areas can defend themselves, but now, no one knows. they might even want to fight the pak army. it is a difficult situation

[Zechariah]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Umm No, Pakistan's doesnt possess a missile that can carry any warhead to the US..

We can always send one in Afghanistan or the Gulf where there bases are?

They better stop wet dreaming about attacking Pakistan.

[Zechariah]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad u see that is the problem. the US is deliberately creating rifts between teh pak army and tribals so that thay can not find together in the future. in case of a war, the tribal areas can defend themselves, but now, no one knows. they might even want to fight the pak army. it is a difficult situation

Exactly. The American Media has been saying that Mush is tricking as all, Mush is signing deals, this and that so they atack our tribal areas and of course who gets the blaim? army and Mush.

[Wazeeri]

u see that is the problem. the US is deliberately creating rifts between teh pak army and tribals so that thay can not find together in the future. in case of a war, the tribal areas can defend themselves, but now, no one knows. they might even want to fight the pak army. it is a difficult situation

A relative of mine informed me that in military terms this is called an external manouvere. The tactic is to remove all friends or create enough of a rift between friendly nations that they don't come to each other's defense.

Reason why Chinese people are being killed in Pakistan.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Wazeeri A relative of mine informed me that in military terms this is called an external manouvere. The tactic is to remove all friends or create enough of a rift between friendly nations that they don't come to each other's defense. Reason why Chinese people are being killed in Pakistan.

yup, it is true. pakistan is being alienated. and mushy is falling for it just coz he wants to cling on to power.

[foojam]

Originally Posted by shahzad_1 If America ever try to enter our land, Pakistan army should respond with full power and crush them. When would Pakistan realize that USA is not their friend. When would we use our force, we have such a big army and so much weapons, I don't see us using those any near in future. So, might as well use it against USA now. If I was a president of Pakistan (that's why I am not) I would have gone after USA in Afghanstan by now. They are after our nuclear plant, they are finding excuses after excuses to invade Pakistan to my opinion. Mushy should put Pakistan on Red alert and go after them now. They are in deep **** right now, getting busted in Iraq and in Afghanstan as well. Lets put this devil to sleep.... Lets cure this disease forever. Now is the right time to call people to unite for common cause

thank god your not..
but to the question..no pakistan should not allow a foreign airstrike against laden...we should do it ourselves.

[the Great Khan]

If America send a plane into Pakistan we should shoot it down and if they send a missile into Pakistan we should send a missile into one of their bases in the gulf. Short of that.....we should end all cooperation with them on the war on terror and concentrate onsaving our own people from these ******* terrorists.

lol..wake up...the US could bomb wazeeristan with impunity as it has been doing and we cant do diddly squat about it!!...theyd fry our airforce before out pilots would know what hit em!!...we have no chance against a US air attack on pakistan...the only way to prevent a US attack on Pakistan is to a) prepare for nuclear war with India b) keep them bogged down in afghanistan and initiate democracy in pakistan. I prefer option b...option a you may think is crazy but its a detterent!...we warn the US , attack us and we bomb new delhi iregardless of whetehr they support you or not!!....we will never win a conventional war in the air with the US!!..

[shahzad_1]

Originally Posted by Shez Yes what a great thought! Why didn't we think of it? Let's start World War 3

Thats where things are aiming now bro.
I won't be surprised if that happened within next two years.

[nufc]

No

[snow_leopard_pk]

who said he's in pakistan ?
he's hiding in texas !

[12thMan]

aussie-pak I don't know what you said, but going by your earlier post it seems like USA should attack and then Russia, China, Iran etc will also get involved and that means finish Pakistan . I think you should stay away from Paksitan related posts or take Pak out of your userid and be real

[aussie-pak]

Originally Posted by 12thMan aussie-pak I don't know what you said, but going by your earlier post it seems like USA should attack and then Russia, China, Iran etc will also get involved and that means finish Pakistan . I think you should stay away from Paksitan related posts or take Pak out of your userid and be real

man im just angry at US

[Daoud]

Originally Posted by aussie-pak man im just angry at US

You're acting just like the nutters in America who went round shooting Sikhs after 9/11 or the ones who wanted Mecca to be bombed. A lot of them arent even responsible for the election of the current regime

[Waseem]

Americans aren't that stupid to screw themselves that easily, they would have attacked North Korea by now if it was in THEIR interest. There is NO way they will attack Pakistan and i don't think Musharaff is that stupid to let them attack our cities. He is pro US but when was the last time we had anti US government?? Mush supported them after 9/11 not because of his unconditional LOVE for America but that's what was required at that time.

US is NOT going to attack Pakistan but if they have solid proof that Bin Laden is there, our own forces should shoot him in the head instantly and save thousands of innocent lives around the world.

[the Great Khan]

US is NOT going to attack Pakistan but if they have solid proof that Bin Laden is there, our own forces should shoot him in the head instantly and save thousands of innocent lives around the world.

i dont think youre listening bro..he's long dead...his disease means he wouldnt have survived more than a year max..he's a red herring and an albatross round our neck that the US uses for its own ends..

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by the Great Khan i dont think youre listening bro..he's long dead...his disease means he wouldnt have survived more than a year max..he's a red herring and an albatross round our neck that the US uses for its own ends..

Can't be believed until we all see the dead body or proof

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by shahzad_1 Thats where things are aiming now bro. I won't be surprised if that happened within next two years.

Ummm.......NO! You really think US is that dumb? Give them some credit!

[Waseem]

Originally Posted by the Great Khan i dont think youre listening bro..he's long dead...his disease means he wouldnt have survived more than a year max..he's a red herring and an albatross round our neck that the US uses for its own ends..

I don't believe in conspiracy theories like:

9/11 was carried out by Americans.
There are/were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Osama Bin Laden has died.
etc
etc
.
.
.

[Wazeeri]

Why is Zarqarwi making videos upon videos where as Bin Ladin hasn't been heard of since 2002.

[HillRock]

I don't believe in conspiracy theories thats why I need proof.

News from future

July 26, 2107
US Senate increased Bin Laden reward from $1.6 Billion to $1.7 Billion. CIA believes he is somewhere in tribal areas of Pakistan.

[aussie-pak]

Originally Posted by HillRock I don't believe in conspiracy theories thats why I need proof. News from future July 26, 2107 US Senate increased Bin Laden reward from $1.6 Billion to $1.7 Billion. CIA believes he is somewhere in tribal areas of Pakistan.

[feather]

Sure why not I simply do not see a problem with taking out Osma even if some innocent people do die in a strike that kills him. He is NOT our friend...we are paying a high price already because of him and muslims around the world. He is someone who will never have any problem telling his people to create hell in Pakistan...I am simply not bothered.

People can hate the US all they want...double standards from both sides. Why don't all the Pakistanis go back to Pakistan or else where...the amount of money that goes from the US to Pakistan and also american investments...our exports to america...on one hand we oppose american on the other hand we want them to feed us...what BS

I don't like Bush...the wars were wrong...but getting Osma be my guest anytime

[HillRock]

Originally Posted by feather Sure why not I simply do not see a problem with taking out Osma even if some innocent people do die in a strike that kills him. He is NOT our friend...we are paying a high price already because of him and muslims around the world. He is someone who will never have any problem telling his people to create hell in Pakistan...I am simply not bothered. People can hate the US all they want...double standards from both sides. Why don't all the Pakistanis go back to Pakistan or else where...the amount of money that goes from the US to Pakistan and also american investments...our exports to america...on one hand we oppose american on the other hand we want them to feed us...what BS I don't like Bush...the wars were wrong...but getting Osma be my guest anytime

When you refer to "some inncocent people" certainly you are including yourself and your family too? Otherwise you would be just one of selfish and hypocrite people.

[Wazeeri]

People can hate the US all they want...double standards from both sides. Why don't all the Pakistanis go back to Pakistan or else where...the amount of money that goes from the US to Pakistan and also american investments...our exports to america...on one hand we oppose american on the other hand we want them to feed us...what BS

Yes because they feed us, they should also be allowed to bomb us.
Nice to have you back Feather, good to see you have come back fully loaded with logic as usual.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by feather Sure why not I simply do not see a problem with taking out Osma even if some innocent people do die in a strike that kills him. He is NOT our friend...we are paying a high price already because of him and muslims around the world. He is someone who will never have any problem telling his people to create hell in Pakistan...I am simply not bothered. People can hate the US all they want...double standards from both sides. Why don't all the Pakistanis go back to Pakistan or else where...the amount of money that goes from the US to Pakistan and also american investments...our exports to america...on one hand we oppose american on the other hand we want them to feed us...what BS I don't like Bush...the wars were wrong...but getting Osma be my guest anytime

anyone who thinks all this ends with osama is wrong. the US is playing the osama card. they played it to get iraq, and they r using it to anger the tribals. once osama is gone, dont expect extremism to go away. it will be there with a lot of force, and the US wll still be on our backs like it is right now.

we r not a US colony, even though we act like one, that tye can cross the border and bomb us whenever they want. its about sovereignty of pak, which can nt be compromised at any cost

[feather]

Originally Posted by HillRock When you refer to "some inncocent people" certainly you are including yourself and your family too? Otherwise you would be just one of selfish and hypocrite people.

I knew someone was going to mention this and I even included they can bomb my house if it meant Osma was there and would be dead but than I was like why get personal.

Wazeeri,

I have never been away just have not been posting due to loads of work and I usually get tired of your idealistic ideas. The fact is we are dying and our people are dying by the name network Osma and his fellow crooks run...they kill more of their own innocent people than anyone else.

I would much prefer to be killed by an American bomb rather than one you built on the name of Allah n Islam. Every man for himself...whatever rocks your boat I am fine with that.

The above was my opinion and I am sticking to it.

[feather]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad anyone who thinks all this ends with osama is wrong. the US is playing the osama card. they played it to get iraq, and they r using it to anger the tribals. once osama is gone, dont expect extremism to go away. it will be there with a lot of force, and the US wll still be on our backs like it is right now. we r not a US colony, even though we act like one, that tye can cross the border and bomb us whenever they want. its about sovereignty of pak, which can nt be compromised at any cost

It doesn't end with Osma...I think all these religious fanatics need to be hanged cause they surely are not following Islam just because they are saying they are following the word of Allah doesn't make it any less wrong than what they are doing....we have been wronged no denying that however two wrongs never make one right.

If you have a prob with the US...get your free elected government to wage a full scale war against the US. However for whatever their greed might be...we all have a common enemy...which is these crazy nutts who would rather blow us up n our masjids n our homes...I sure as hell don't need these people on my side or that of my family.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by feather It doesn't end with Osma...I think all these religious fanatics need to be hanged cause they surely are not following Islam just because they are following the word of Allah doesn't make it any less wrong than what they are doing....we have been wronged no denying that however two wrongs never make one right. If you have a prob with the US...get your free elected government to wage a full scale war against the US. However for whatever their greed might be...we all have a common enemy...which is these crazy nutts who would rather blow us up n our masjids n our homes...I sure as hell don't need these people on my side or that of my family.

so u mean if one countyr has a problem with another country, they should go to war?

u r forgetting that it was the US that made these extremists what they r today. they bred them, armed them, used them and now pak has to pay for it coz the US doesnt need them any more.

[feather]

Look it is quite simple. The US has prob with Osma they waged two wars and mostly likely will more in the future. I would rather have him dead and few innocent people rather than 100's of thousands. This also give these religious nutts to kill many more thousands of their own people. If you are going to say oh the US won't stop than what choice do you have? Join the army and pressure your government to start a war.

Yes, the US made them however we trained and mantained them also...used the drug money to fund many of our own operations. These people are not our friends...so what if we are not friends with the US...least we share a common enemy...they are the ones blowing up people in Pakistan...if my family member died tom from a blast....dude I will be upset at these nutts rather than america.

Common sense never hurts...there is no point of burning down businesses in Pakistan...buring cars n buses of poor fellow Pakistanis...just cause you hate america...give them visa's and they will all come running here. We export **** load of stuff outside of Pakistan...the whole is involved with the US in some shape or form...lets not get overboard with being Pakistani n free cause in the end we need them if we want to progress.

[Wazeeri]

The above was my opinion and I am sticking to it.

And you are welcome to it. However I am sure that you would have a different opinion if your own family was living in the NWFP rather than some Jaahil, Bearded, extremist Pathans the life whom isn't worth thinking twice over.

Maybe someday the open minded such as yourself will open their minds towards the fact that bombing is what creates terrorists.

[feather]

Actions cause reactions...perhaps if they hadn't bombed the US...two countries wouldn't be going through what they have and will continue to go through.

As for not caring for people cause they are unrelated to me....what a pathetic excuse if you didn't have anything better to say.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by feather Look it is quite simple. The US has prob with Osma they waged two wars and mostly likely will more in the future. I would rather have him dead and few innocent people rather than 100's of thousands. This also give these religious nutts to kill many more thousands of their own people. If you are going to say oh the US won't stop than what choice do you have? Join the army and pressure your government to start a war. Yes, the US made them however we trained and mantained them also...used the drug money to fund many of our own operations. These people are not our friends...so what if we are not friends with the US...least we share a common enemy...they are the ones blowing up people in Pakistan...if my family member died tom from a blast....dude I will be upset at these nutts rather than america. Common sense never hurts...there is no point of burning down businesses in Pakistan...buring cars n buses of poor fellow Pakistanis...just cause you hate america...give them visa's and they will all come running here. We export **** load of stuff outside of Pakistan...the whole is involved with the US in some shape or form...lets not get overboard with being Pakistani n free cause in the end we need them if we want to progress.

dude its not about hating america or anyone else. y do u think the solution to everything is bombing the shittt out of some place and kill some innocent people. and u said u r ok with killing a few inocent people to get osaman. what if some of those innocent people were ur relatives and friends. how would u feel.

[feather]

Anyway I forgot to vote "yes" which I have now...with that I have also shared my opinion on this crap...I am going to now continue with my little break from posting...yall have fun!

Waqar reading my posts my provide an answere to your question cause it has been answered.

[Wazeeri]

Actions cause reactions...perhaps if they hadn't bombed the US...two countries wouldn't be going through what they have and will continue to go through.

Perhaps if the US didn't backstab a mafia they created and helped them recruit by repeated bombings of Afghanistan we may not have seen the bombings of 9/11.

As for not caring for people cause they are unrelated to me....what a pathetic excuse if you didn't have anything better to say.

Pathetic is the following quote from you.

I simply do not see a problem with taking out Osma even if some innocent people do die

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad so u mean if one countyr has a problem with another country, they should go to war? u r forgetting that it was the US that made these extremists what they r today. they bred them, armed them, used them and now pak has to pay for it coz the US doesnt need them any more.

Why blame the US? Is it their fault that these 'extremists' let the US bred them, let the US arm them and let the US use them? God gave us all a mind of our own. Is it America's fault that these so called 'extremists' don't know how to use their mind?

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by Shez Why blame the US? Is it their fault that these 'extremists' let the US bred them, let the US arm them and let the US use them? God gave us all a mind of our own. Is it America's fault that these so called 'extremists' don't know how to use their mind?

now that is the most brilliant post of this thread.

this post is so bad that i dont even need to respond to this properly. m sur emost here will agree wit me

[deviously~fading~away]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad now that is the most brilliant post of this thread. this post is so bad that i dont even need to respond to this properly. m sur emost here will agree wit me

Oh Yes, let's go ahead and blame the US for everything that way we can sleep better at night!By the way thanks for your thoughtful reply

[Wazeeri]

Shez

Now we do have a brain of our own and we will not allow them to bomb us.