Miandad urges PCB to recognise ICL

[mamoo gogo]

For once, I agree with him.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/icl/...ry/307974.html

Miandad urges Pakistan board to recognise ICL Cricinfo staff August 23, 2007 Miandad feels a sense of uncertainty in Pakistan caused some of the leading players joining the ICL © Getty Images Javed Miandad wants the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to recognise the Indian Cricket League (ICL) before it escalates into the magnitude of Kerry Packer's parallel World Series 30 years ago. "I don't think this policy of banning players is going to work practically," Miandad was quoted as saying by the Indian Express. "Since the ICL is not something which the governments have objected to, I think any player can go to court and challenge any ban on him to play in and for his country. "The International Cricket Council and its member boards need to take the ICL seriously. Because it has the potential like the Kerry Packer series to snowball into something big." The PCB has reiterated that any contracted player joining the ICL would thereafter not be considered for selection for Pakistan. So far Inzamam-ul Haq, Mohammad Yousuf, Abdul Razzaq and Imran Farhat have signed up to play in the breakaway contest in its initial season. According to Miandad, this was due to a sense of uncertainty and lack of financial security. "Every player has to look to his future and security," he said. "In Pakistan there is no financial security for your retirement days." Miandad, who played in the Packer series and appeared in 124 Tests for Pakistan, said the ICL could serve as a flashpoint between international players and the ICC and its member boards. "For sometime now the players have been complaining of excessive cricket and not enough wages. The ICL offers them an alternative." Meanwhile, in India, former captains, Ajit Wadekar and Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi, have criticised the Indian board for banning players participating in the ICL. "The board has been harsh on the ICL," Wadekar told Reuters. "The ICL's intention seems to be to give a boost to domestic cricket and provide a platform for players who do not get a chance to play for India." He also felt that withdrawing the pensions of former players who have aligned with the ICL was unfair as the players had earned the benefits for services they rendered earlier. "I don't think you can ban players as long as they fulfil their commitments to the board," Pataudi too told Reuters. "If there is a clash of commitments, then of course it is a different matter entirely."

[BD-fan]

Many PPers are not even looking at this article or reading any part of it. I wonder why? May be their interest is not served here. I have yet to hear why it is unpatriotic to play for ICL? The players are not rejecting a national spot. The PCB is making "faltu" rules so that these players can't play and they can keep the easy sponsorship money ($$$$ that's all about) and other earnings. I hope a multi billioniare Pakistani opens up PCL (Pakistan Cricket league). May be down the road can merge with ICL and create (WCL - World cricket league). This should teach all the boards a good lesson.

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by BD-fan Many PPers are not even looking at this article or reading any part of it. I wonder why? May be their interest is not served here. I have yet to hear why it is unpatriotic to play for ICL? The players are not rejecting a national spot. The PCB is making "faltu" rules so that these players can't play and they can keep the easy sponsorship money ($$$$ that's all about) and other earnings. I hope a multi billioniare Pakistani opens up PCL (Pakistan Cricket league). May be down the road can merge with ICL and create (WCL - World cricket league). This should teach all the boards a good lesson.

Look around at this forum, and there are about 500 reasons given but don't even try to find ANY logic/sense behind them!

I love your point about somebody starting a PCL in Pakistan...I wish, I had money to do that!

[mamoo gogo]

so...correct me if i'm wrong...but do these same people classify imran khan and javed miandad as very unpatriotic, and even as "traitiors"...or is it just for the time being, and soon people will forget all about MoYo's joining ICL, and start calling him as our national hero.

[ragoo52]

PCB Should recognize icl....stop protecting BCCI's interests and start looking for our own interests

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by ragoo52 PCB Should recognize icl....stop protecting BCCI's interests and start looking for our own interests

.....no, no, no,.......DNA/PCB can NEVER be unpatriotic or greedy!! It is the players like MOYO who are greedy and unpatriotic!!! man, you must have offended a lot of DNA fans on this forum who think that he is no less than an angel and can't seem to say or do anything wrong!!!

[TUX]

Originally Posted by BD-fan Many PPers are not even looking at this article or reading any part of it. I wonder why? May be their interest is not served here. I have yet to hear why it is unpatriotic to play for ICL? The players are not rejecting a national spot. The PCB is making "faltu" rules so that these players can't play and they can keep the easy sponsorship money ($$$$ that's all about) and other earnings. I hope a multi billioniare Pakistani opens up PCL (Pakistan Cricket league). May be down the road can merge with ICL and create (WCL - World cricket league). This should teach all the boards a good lesson.

is there any multi billioniare ( in $$) pakistani ?

[Muddaser]

Originally Posted by TUX is there any multi billioniare ( in $$) pakistani ?

Oh yes they are but no one likes to admit it for various reasons. Tax evasion, Drug dealing etc.

Try to get hold of this book.

http://www.fact.com.pk/publications/billionare.htm

[TUX]

ohhh.waise to almost all top shot politicians would be billioniares...in pakistan..no doubt..as they are in india...but its all black money...

i am interested in some industrialist family..some business tycoon...whose personal asset is more than 1-2 billions..

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by TUX i am interested in some industrialist family..some business tycoon...whose personal asset is more than 1-2 billions..

He has 'pledged' to return to Pakistan very soon!

[161]

i think dawood got some stakes in the ICL and is using miandad to help legitimize it.

[Saqlain_doosra]

Originally Posted by TUX is there any multi billioniare ( in $$) pakistani ?

My friend was telling me all the names that day and some of them are I think aga khan family, memon and rest of the other names which I never heard before.

[karachiite]

Originally Posted by BD-fan Many PPers are not even looking at this article or reading any part of it. I wonder why? May be their interest is not served here. I have yet to hear why it is unpatriotic to play for ICL? The players are not rejecting a national spot. The PCB is making "faltu" rules so that these players can't play and they can keep the easy sponsorship money ($$$$ that's all about) and other earnings. I hope a multi billioniare Pakistani opens up PCL (Pakistan Cricket league). May be down the road can merge with ICL and create (WCL - World cricket league). This should teach all the boards a good lesson.

What sponsorship money are you talking about? If the top players don't play, the PCB actually lose out. Forget about the rights and wrongs of the rules made up by the PCB for a second. These were made clear BEFORE these people signed for ICL leaving them with 2 options:

1. Play for their country and if they perform well, they'll get recognised on the world stage and worshipped by fans.
2. Secure their future by earning ICL mega-bucks

They chose the second option and in some people's eyes, choosing mega-bucks over represeting your country is being unpatriotic.

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by karachiite 1. Play for their country and if they perform well, they'll get recognised on the world stage and worshipped by fans..

i dont understand why this point is repeatedly made. whih examples exactly are you referring to? what do you think previous heros of pakistan would say about this point: inzi? waqar?

i would imagine its precisely the opposite as witnessed in the examples of these two, both in their treatment by the boards and by the fans that have made todays pakistanis cricketers realise that your point 1) is just not a realistic option.

[hellopak]

Miandad is exploring opportunities to coach one of the team in ICL. That is why he is using sympathetic tone.

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by hellopak Miandad is exploring opportunities to coach one of the team in ICL. That is why he is using sympathetic tone.

It is just not Miandad, I think following ex-cricketers and experts my be looking for some oppertunities with ICL;

- By banning players from ICL, PCB (DNA) is fighting/supporting BCCI war. Arif Abbasi.
- By joining ICL, no player has committed any crime. Asif Iqbal.
- PCB/DNA should just shut up like OTHER boards on ICL issue. Asif Iqbal.
- If player saw a secure future with PCB, why would they have joined ICL. Aamir Sohail
- If our players can play in county cricket, why can't they play ICL? Safraz Nawaz
- ICL will not impact Pakistan cricket, if players are allowed to join ICL. Nadeem Abbasi
- Cricketers should be allowed to join ICL. Anwar Masood (ex-cricketer)
- ICL will not hurt Pak cricket, but banning players for joining ICL will. Intikhab Alam
- Who created an atmosphere that prompted players to join ICL? Zakir Syed