Do High Profile Celebs in Pakistan struggle due to a Lack of Education?

[Saj]

Some have said that the issues with Shoaib Akhtar and others is due to a lack of education. Of course some of these issues dont just apply to cricketers, as pop singers in Pakistan amongst others have been embroiled in controversy too?

What are your thoughts on this ?

[Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar]

Originally Posted by Saj pop singers in Pakistan amongst others have been embroiled in controversy too? What are your thoughts on this?

I can't recall pop singers getting into too much trouble. people like Abrar, Junaid, Rohail, Shahi, Salman, Ali Azmat, etc, imo, have conducted themselves in stellar fashion in general. most of the jahalat came from our old singers such as Noor Jehan, etc who had no class.

one thing, I've always wondered about is OUR role and OUR fascination with jahils like Akhtar, Sarfaraz Nawaz, Afridi. look at our hockey players. they might not be the best team in the world any more. but most of them are educated. guys like Sohail Abbas, Rehan Butt, etc are/were clearly intelligent, mature men. however, we give them no respect. take the old players too - Shahbaz, Shehnaz, Islahuddin, etc, come across as intelligent men capable of behaving with class. however, most people (myself included) don't even know the names of our players. take squash. again most players are well behaved, educated and gentlemanly. however, we give them no respect again. Jahangir is Pakistan's greatest sportsman ever but he hardly even shows up on TV or newspapers whereas the Downs' Syndrome sufferer that is Sarfraz Nawaz is everywhere. take any sport or any field for that matter - we ignore the educated for the jahils.

so, surely some of this is our fault when we give a lot of coverage to jahil, spoiled cricketers but ignore educated, intelligent, mature overachievers in other fields?

[Saj]

MT, the pop singer I was referring to was Ali Haider.

[Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar]

Originally Posted by Saj MT, the pop singer I was referring to was Ali Haider.

none of that stuff was ever proven. I found the coverage of that whole episode very childish and stupid. "Ali Haider was found doing something somewhere with some people." what does that mean?

even if the guy was drunk and having sex with a model, then so what? is this something that Sheikh Rasheed hasn't done? there are plenty of people who do much worse stuff and nobody even raises their finger. lets start with the big fish and go down the food chain.

Ali Haider is educated. I don't agree with everything he does but in general, he's been a good role model and has made great contributions to modern Pakistani music.

[Asim2Good]

don't think, singers (pop singers), drama actors and ppl in fashion industry struggle. but yes in film industry they do, most of time they struggle to make sentence even in Urdu

[Invictus]

Shoaib AKhtar's issue has nothing to do with education. Shoaib Akhtar is just Sarfaraz in the making. I always wondered how can someone end up like Sarfaraz? I guess Shoaib is just trying to answer that question for me.

[Shehzad Ali]

Originally Posted by Saj MT, the pop singer I was referring to was Ali Haider.

Ali Haider is educated, that was an unfortunate thing as he was going through depression. Most of our pop stars are highly educated. Our actresses are from red light areas and therefore they are the way they are...our crickters are from streets and some of them are Jaahil.

[W63L35]

Money and fame is very hard to handle specially if you get it at avery young age. Lack of education certainly adds to the problem. Yes, totally agree that educations is need for not only celebs, it is needed for general public too.

P.S. When it come to politicians, it is not they suffer due to lack of education. It is Pakistan that suffers!

[Saj]

The worrying thing is that some of our cricketers, as young as 18 or 19 are thrust into the limelight, without much guidance or management.

Its a recipe for disaster.

[Toony™®]

i think paks education level is basic... at primary and secondary level.

[Saj]

Maybe as part of the academies training, they should implement some media training. How to speak in public, behave in public, what to say and what not to say to the media.

[irfan]

what jahalat did Madam Noor Jehan show?

[12thMan]

I think it might be everywhere. It is hard to distinguish and has to do with fame and money coming to them and how a celebrity handles it. With Pakistan with limited channels the hot celebrities get promoted/invited on more shows and there might be limited number of celbrities also so that may also add to the problem.

A person with education can have same problem and a person without much education may not have the problem. It depends on upbringing, guidance, the individual and the company he keeps

[Neighbourhood policewala]

I think the PCB needs to start considering programmes similar to those implemented by major football clubs such as Ajax Amsterdam. During those times when they won the Champions League, a background scan was done showing that their scouts unearth the talent at the age of 14 or so years and alongside playing football, these impressionable youths get educated.

It's unfortunate that those that have played cricket outside of Pak seem to have confidence in media handling, Inzamam was a prime example during some of his ill fated interviews that would leave me amazed at the lack of clarity in our previous captain's english speaking.

Fame is an extremely diificult thing to handle and I think that our celebs need more schooling in dealing with the media light

[12thMan]

education doesn't have much to do with it. It is the personality and the group of people that influence you (could be manager, friends etc) and how you handle it. I can add upbringing and how the family grows with the celebrity status but that maybe not the right thing to say.

There are examples in Tennis and NBA players who went to the stardom and big money and they handled it better. Some finished Highschool. Tendulkar who started at 16, probably didn't have much education when he started getting famous and in a year or two was the big celebrity. He might have gone to college during his career but college was not going to teach him how to act in life.

We can see similar things in some young musicians or sportsmen in west. For some Pakistanis talking in English means they are educated but then what about some of the US athletes or celebrities. They speak english (and some of them I cannot understand) but get in trouble. These people need good relationship at home from start and a good manager who can guide them but if a person is not going to learn and listen that is his personality.