Our U-19 teams from the past, performance [Merged]

[W63L35]

In another thread, a comment made about wasted talent kind made me look at a few teams of the past. Following are all Pak Under-19 teams that participated in U-19 WCups.

Just look at the team that got selected for 1999-00 world cups. Almost all the players became permanent members of the senior team and still are. While out of players selected for other world cups, only 2-3 (or 4 at the most) went on to play for Pakistan. I'd like to know who selected 1999-00 Under-19 and would love to bring those selectors back as talent scouts.

Another thing that stands out is, that Pakistan won last two world cups but none of the player from those teams is currently being touted as huge potential player (except Fawad Alam).

So, when I looked these teams, it made me wonder......is it waste of talent, unfair selections, or something else - except 1999-00 team!

Also, would you like to have a team like 1999-00 get selected and lose in the semi-final than get team of no future talent and win the U-19 WC?

P.S. I know, it is too early to any judgment about last WC players but the signs are NOT good!

1987-88 (Lost in Final)
Zahoor Elahi (Captain)
Basit Ali
Shahid Anwar
Shahid Nawaz
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Mohammad Nawaz
Zulfiqar Ali
+Rifaqat Ali
Shakeel Khan
Basit Ali
Zulfiqar Butt
Mushtaq Ahmed.
Wasim Ali

1997-98 (lost all matches in super league)
Bazid Khan (Captain)
Hasan Raza (Vice Captain)
Inamul Haq
Hafiz Majid Jehangir
Abdul Razzaq
Shoaib Malik
Jan Nisar Khan
Imran Tahir
+Humayun Farhat
Zaheer Ahmed Khan
Zahid Saeed
Zamir Ahmad
Waqas Ahmad
Saeed Anwar (Jr)

1999-00 (Lost in Semi-Final)
Hasan Raza (Captain)
Imran Nazir
Imran Farhat
Taufeeq Umer
Faisal Iqbal
Babar Naeem
Yasir Arafat
Zahid Saeed
Irfan Fazil
Janisar Khan
+Humayun Farhat
Muhammad Sami
Shoaib Malik
Danish Kaneria
Reserves
Tahir Khan
Kamran Akmal

2000-01 (Did not reach semi-final on run rate)
Salman Butt (captain)
Junaid Zia (vice-captain)
+Amin-ur-Rehman
Arsalan Mir
Asim Munir
Atiq-ur-Rehman
Azhar Ali
Irfanuddin
Kamran Sajid
Kamran Younis
Khaqan Arsal
Mohammad Fayyaz
Najaf Shah
Umar Gul
Reserves
Azhar Hussain
Mohammad Khalil
Saqib Zia
Yasir Shah
Zulqarnain Haider

2003-04 (Champion)
Khalid Latif (captain)
Adnan Zaheer
Abid Ali
Jahangir Mirza
Mohammad Asif Iqbal
Fawad Alam
+Zulqarnain Haider
Tariq Mahmood
Mansoor Amjad
Usman Saeed
Salman Qadir
Wahab Riaz
Riaz Afridi
Ali Imran Pasha

2005-06 (Champion)
Ali Asad
Ali Khan
Imad Wasim
Jamshed Ahmed
Mohammad Faheem
+Sarfraz Ahmed (captain)
Usman Malik
Riaz Kail
Nasir Jamshed
Rameez Raja
Mohammad Ibrahim
Anwar Ali
Akhtar Ayub
Mohammad Laeeq

2007-08 (We'll know in a few days )
Imad Wasim (c)
Shan Masood (vc)
Adil Raza
Ahmed Shehzad
Ahsan Baig
Ali Asad
Azhar Attari
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Aamer
Mohammad Rameez
Shahzaib Ahmed
Umair Mir (wk)
Umar Akmal
Umar Amin
Usman Salahuddin

[salman24]

Interesting Post!!!
Good JOB
NIce to see all these teams

[iZeeshan]

I was waiting for someone to do this.

Its amazing how Hasan Raza has captained/vice captained in 2 U-19 world cups, and has taken Pakistan decently far yet has avoided playing more then 10 matches since!

[muhammad saad]

current U19 team (which tour to England) batting look most impressive. and we all know about the bowling i-e 05/06 champions.

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by muhammad saad current U19 team (which tour to England) batting look most impressive. and we all know about the bowling i-e 05/06 champions.

Yes, this is what said. Last two teams won the World Cups but the which on of those bowlers can turn into big names of the future. Anwar Ali - the star of the final, has not done anything of note in domestic cricket after that performance. In just concluded match vs Mumbai, Anwar Ali bowled 37 overs for 148 runs while taking only 2 wickets. Four no-name Mumbai players scored 100s. So, the point I was trying to make was that....most of the players from 1999-00 team made an upward progress after that tournament....while rest of the U-19 team could produce "big" players!

....but like I said, it is too early to judge last World cup team!

[Toony™®]

Another U19 WC on the horizon. I thought let me look up the squads of the past tournaments and which players should we recognized who made the big time and who are likely to break through...

recognise any names

1988

Shahid Anwar
Basit Ali
*Zahoor Elahi
Shahid Nawaz
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Mohammad Nawaz
Mushtaq Ahmed
+Rifaqat Ali
Zulfiqar Butt
Zulfiqar Ali
Aaqib Javed
Shakeel Khan
Wasim Ali
Rehan Kahloon


1998

Bazid Khan Captain,
Hasan Raza (Vice Captain),
Inamul Haq,
Hafiz Majid Jehangir
Abdur (Abdul) Razzak,
Shoaib Malik,
Jan Nisar Khan,
Imran Tahir,
Humayun Farhat,
Zaheer Ahmed Khan,
Zahid Saeed,
Zamir Ahmad (Ahmed),
Waqas Ahmad (Ahmed),
Saeed Anwar (Jr)


2000

Hasan Raza
Imran Nazir
Imran Farhat
Taufeeq Umer
Faisal Iqbal
Babar Naeem
Yasir Arafat
Zahid Saeed
Irfan Fazil
Janisar Khan
Humayun Farhat
Muhammad Sami
Shoaib Malik
Danish Kaneria

Reserves
Kamran Akmal
Tahir Khan


2002

Salman Butt (captain)
Junaid Zia (vice-captain)
Amin-ur-Rehman
Arsalan Mir
Asim Munir
Atiq-ur-Rehman
Azhar Ali
Irfanuddin
Kamran Sajid
Kamran Younis
Khaqan Arsal
Mohammad Fayyaz
Najaf Shah
Umar Gul

Reserves:
Azhar Hussain
Mohammad Khalil
Saqib Zia
Yasir Shah
Zulqarnain Haider


2004

*Khalid Latif
Adnan Zaheer
Abid Ali
Jahangir Mirza
Mohammad Asif Iqbal
Fawad Alam
+Zulqarnain Haider
Tariq Mahmood
Mansoor Amjad
Usman Saeed
Salman Qadir
Wahab Riaz
Riaz Afridi
Ali Imran Pasha


2006

Ali Asad
Ali Khan
Imad Wasim
Jamshed Ahmed
Mohammad Faheem
*+Sarfraz Ahmed
Usman Malik
Riaz Kail
Nasir Jamshed
Rameez Raja
Mohammad Ibrahim
Anwar Ali
Akhtar Ayub
Mohammad Laeeq


2008

Imad Wasim (c)
Adil Raza
Ahsan Baig
Azhar Attari
Mohammad Aamer
Shahzaib Ahmed
Umar Akmal
Usman Salahuddin
Shan Masood (vc)
Ahmed Shehzad
Ali Asad
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Rameez
Umair Mir (wk)
Umar Amin

[Killer Instinct]

Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shezad have got futures. Mohammed Aamer has been hyped up. It is a crying shame that the best two bowlers in the previous U19 World Cup have not been part of Pakistan plans. Jamshed Ahmed and Anwar Ali were the stars of that particular world cup but have been constantly overlooked.

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by Killer Instinct Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shezad have got futures. Mohammed Aamer has been hyped up. It is a crying shame that the best two bowlers in the previous U19 World Cup have not been part of Pakistan plans. Jamshed Ahmed and Anwar Ali were the stars of that particular world cup but have been constantly overlooked.

i been following the u19 matches over the last 12 months and pretty
every one in the squad has contributed one time or another.

Usman Salahuddin, Imad Wasim have been very consistent.

the 2006 bowlers need to play more fc cricket, the bowler which will probably breakthrough first of that lot is aktar ayub who is pacier than the other two.

The 2000 squad was very strong but only reached the semis!

[Iqbal'sh]

Here's another intriguing squad. This time it was the lombard U-15 World Challenge hosted by England in 1996:

7 out of Pakistan's 14 man squad went on to play at intl level.


Pakistan Squad

Faisal Iqbal (captain)
born 30 December 1981
school: St. Patrick's High School, Karachi
RHB, right arm medium pace bowler
(nephew of Javed Miandad)

Bazid Khan (vice captain)
born 25 March 1981
school: Aitchison, Lahore
RHB, off break bowler
(Son of Majid Khan)

Taufig Omar
born: 20 June 1981
school: Central Model School, Lahore
RHB, right arm off spin bowler

Hasan Raza
born: 11 March 1982
school: Government Boys Secondary school, Karachi
RHB

Shoaib Malik
born: 1 February 1982
school: Government Arabic High School, Sialkot
RHB, right arm off spin bowler

Usman Hashim
born: 4 December 1982
school: Beacon House Public School, Lahore
RHB, right arm off spin bowler

Yasar Arafat
born: 12 March 1982
school: Bashir Memorial Model School, Sheikhpura
RHB, right arm fast medium bowler

Kamran Akmal
born: 13 January 1982
school: Beacon House School, Lahore
RHB, right-arm off spin bowler

Kashif Mehmood
born: 15 December 1981
school: Jamia High School, Sheikhpura
RHB, right arm swing bowller

Jan Nisar Khan
born: 6 October 1981
school: Government High School, Peshawar
RHB, right arm swing bowler

Muhammad Ghazan
born: 11 April 1981
school: City School, Karachi
RHB, right arm off spin bowler

Shahzad Nazir
born: 12 April 1981
school: M C High School, Faisalabad
RHB, right arm fast bowler

Shoaib Hassan
born: 8 October 1980
school: Shaheen High School, Karachi
LHB, left arm medium pace bowler

Imran Qadir
born: 19 February 1982
school: Garrison Boys School, Lahore
RHB, right arm leg spin bowler
(son of Abdul Qadir)

Manager: S Khalid Hasan

Coach: Agha Zahid

[dblock]

That 2000 squad seems to be the ghost that has been haunting us till this day..sami, faisal iqbal, akmal, kaneria

[hussain_0216]

The guys from the 2004 U-19 world champs team is now debuting for pajistan at age 22 approx..

Fawad Alam, Khalid Latif, Whab Riaz etc

The guys from the last world cup are 20 years old (or younger) so dont worry they have time.. their time will come

[Xoib]

The 2000 squad was supposed to be our golden generation but it always flattered to decieve and its 'future superstars' massivley underperformed for the senior team. This 2008 squad is somewhat similar to the 2000 squad in terms of potential so here is hoping the history does not repeat itself.

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by Iqbal'sh Here's another intriguing squad. This time it was the lombard U-15 World Challenge hosted by England in 1996: 7 out of Pakistan's 14 man squad went on to play at intl level. Pakistan Squad Faisal Iqbal (captain) born 30 December 1981 school: St. Patrick's High School, Karachi RHB, right arm medium pace bowler (nephew of Javed Miandad) Bazid Khan (vice captain) born 25 March 1981 school: Aitchison, Lahore RHB, off break bowler (Son of Majid Khan) Taufig Omar born: 20 June 1981 school: Central Model School, Lahore RHB, right arm off spin bowler Hasan Raza born: 11 March 1982 school: Government Boys Secondary school, Karachi RHB Shoaib Malik born: 1 February 1982 school: Government Arabic High School, Sialkot RHB, right arm off spin bowler Usman Hashim born: 4 December 1982 school: Beacon House Public School, Lahore RHB, right arm off spin bowler Yasar Arafat born: 12 March 1982 school: Bashir Memorial Model School, Sheikhpura RHB, right arm fast medium bowler Kamran Akmal born: 13 January 1982 school: Beacon House School, Lahore RHB, right-arm off spin bowler Kashif Mehmood born: 15 December 1981 school: Jamia High School, Sheikhpura RHB, right arm swing bowller Jan Nisar Khan born: 6 October 1981 school: Government High School, Peshawar RHB, right arm swing bowler Muhammad Ghazan born: 11 April 1981 school: City School, Karachi RHB, right arm off spin bowler Shahzad Nazir born: 12 April 1981 school: M C High School, Faisalabad RHB, right arm fast bowler Shoaib Hassan born: 8 October 1980 school: Shaheen High School, Karachi LHB, left arm medium pace bowler Imran Qadir born: 19 February 1982 school: Garrison Boys School, Lahore RHB, right arm leg spin bowler (son of Abdul Qadir) Manager: S Khalid Hasan Coach: Agha Zahid

Ok I am can tell you guys , hasan raza was with me in ST Patrick's high school and he finished his matrick when i was in grade 7th or 8th . And then he enrolled himself to this other school in grade 7th, so he can play under 15 worldcup. Hasan raza, faisal iqbal and Ganesh kaneria are of the same st pats batch, with ganesh being 2 years younger then hasan.

[kablooee87]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Ok I am can tell you guys , hasan raza was with me in ST Patrick's high school and he finished his matrick when i was in grade 7th or 8th . And then he enrolled himself to this other school in grade 7th, so he can play under 15 worldcup. Hasan raza, faisal iqbal and Ganesh kaneria are of the same st pats batch, with ganesh being 2 years younger then hasan.

I don't think anyone doubts that Hasan Raza isn't the age that's listed.

[b0wld]

Kaneria is frm St. Pat's...ohhhhhhh *****... BD tell me u r wrong..plzzzzzz

[Hash]

Originally Posted by b0wld Kaneria is frm St. Pat's...ohhhhhhh *****... BD tell me u r wrong..plzzzzzz

yes, Kaneria went to St Patricks. What's the issue here?

[SwEeT CaNdY]

Originally Posted by Toony™® Another U19 WC on the horizon. I thought let me look up the squads of the past tournaments and which players should we recognized who made the big time and who are likely to break through... recognise any names 2008 Imad Wasim (c) Adil Raza Ahsan Baig Azhar Attari Mohammad Aamer Shahzaib Ahmed Umar Akmal Usman Salahuddin Shan Masood (vc) Ahmed Shehzad Ali Asad Junaid Khan Mohammad Rameez Umair Mir (wk) Umar Amin

N I THINK THESE GUYS R GONNA MAKE IT...already got some fame
btw that Usman Salahuddin is he the son of our selector Sallu? lol then I see him playing the in the national team straight after the WC lol

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by SwEeT CaNdY N I THINK THESE GUYS R GONNA MAKE IT...already got some fame btw that Usman Salahuddin is he the son of our selector Sallu? lol then I see him playing the in the national team straight after the WC lol

he is also my namesake -salahuddin - I haven't seem him play- but he seems to score pretty heavily!

although that Shahzed fella seems to be awesome for his age!

[Hash]

Imad Wasim (sifarishi/bits and pieces) , Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, Mohammad Aamir and Umar Amin are all very talented and promising young cricketers.

[daily_dreamer]

Salahuddin looked like a talented batsman when I saw him in England last summer. Granted it was only one match.

[BD-fan]

Hello folks,
I didnot wanted create another thread so am asking here.

Do you know if anyone is telecasting 2008 U-19 WC?

Any streaming like Willow or something? Thanks!!

[murphyslaw79]

Hasan Raza never went to St Patricks High School.

Faisal and Danish were at St Patricks and i played alongside them for the school team, but be assured Hasan never went to St Pats.

Hasan is the same age as Faisal and Danish, give or take a year either way.

Not sure where u got your info from Big Daddy.

[murphyslaw79]

The coach at St Patricks High, Cosmos De Saram, would never have let a player like Hasan go to any other school.

For poor cricketers he often spoke to school authorities and made their education free, even paying for their uniform, cricket equipment, and bus fare from his own pocket.

Great man, but completely mental

[Amjid Javed]

Having won the last two under 19 world cups in an ideal world right now as a pakistan fan you would like 6/7/8 of the players from the last two sqauds to now be knocking on door of the 1s team or even being part of the current set up. Hopefully Pakistan can build up a good core of young players to pick from and produce good results on which can serve the 1st team well in next 2/3 years. Otherwise having such sucessful under 19 teams will go to waste.

[pakcricketfan]

ALL THE BEST TO PAKISTAN TEAM!!!
Inshallah...we'll make a hat trick!!!

[yasserkhan]

Cosmos a great man ? From what I know, there aren't enough four letter words to describe him. Ask Imraan Mohammed son of Sadiq aka "mufta".

For me, the biggest tragedies of that group were Jan Nisar Khan, Kashif Mehmood, Shazad Nazir and Imran Qadir.

Jan Nisar, however, looked to have some pace, I don't know what has happened to him, he can bat too and he is tall and gets good bounce, plus he can swing it too. He looked far better than just about every all-rounder I have seen in recent years, I really don't know why he didn't concentrate on bowling quick.

As for Imran Qadir, he looked awesome for his age, what happened ? Kashif Mehmood, wasn't he Azhar's brother ? He should have developed into a serious quick and he had a great natural outswinger, he looked rather taller than Azhar too. As for Shahzad Nazir isn't he too the brother of Shahid ? They looked similar and he seemed to have real pace, didn't cricinfo rate him as fast ?

What get's me is the least threatening of the bowlers, Yasir Arafat, looks the most successful of the lot now, so how did the others get wasted ?

[murphyslaw79]

Hmmmm, so who are u calling a mufta, imraan or his dad sadiq, cuz one is my brother and the other is my dad.

Cosmos never gave imraan a good chance, however cosmos was still a great man, cuz he did a lot for cricket at St Pats and did a lot for poorer cricketers.

they won numerous inter-school championships under him, so he must have done something right

[yasserkhan]

How's it going Salman ? Imraan mufta obviously. Tell me, has he paid that library fine yet ?

[murphyslaw79]

not sure about that, come on Cosmos wasn't that bad

I should obviously know you, but am having problems, please help

[yasserkhan]

That would be telling. Is it true Imraan married a Maim Sahiba, do you think it will help him in playing for England ?

I actually know you very well, but would hate to spoil the surprise. In fact, I even have pictures with you and your family.

[yasserkhan]

Heard you are married too now, in fact you beat Imraan to it. Do you think Cosmos had a good eye for talent ? I mean he could see Imraan had none.

[murphyslaw79]

Imraan is married now, but i think his days of playing for England finished a while ago, but we still play club cricket regularly.

as far as cosmos goes, i believe he had a good eye, in the sense that he would bring in good cricketers from other schools who did well for him (e.g. do u remember raza???)

However if he beared a grudge against someone, then he could make their life a living hell, i have exp that side of his too.

Immy was unlucky that he was in the side at a time when there were a lot of other good cricketers around.

Faisal Iqbal had the same problem when he first came into the side, he was batting at no.9 or 10 or not even playing at times. However an injury to our keeper meant he got the chance to open and scored a century.

I am intrigued by the fact that i know u, but just can't seem to b put 2 and 2 together.

put me out of my misery

[yasserkhan]

I was being sarcastic about Imraan and England, that was never going to happen. His footwork was hopeless and he just poked outside the off stump all the time, God only knows how he made a century against Gough & Co. Anyways, what has happened to him, he looks even shorter than he used to and his hair has fallen out, tell him to get a transplant, he looks like a right slimey dirty old man these days. Good job he married Ame when he did.

[W63L35]

bump...

Some PPers are looking for the players from the previous U-19 World Cups.

[Toony™®]

only a few more hours to go...

[Plasma]

what time does the Pakistan match start? I think geo will be showing it.

no scorecard on cricinfo yet.