Fergie v Wenger head-to-head

[Amjid Javed]

Since Arsene Wenger took over as Arsenal manager in 1996, he has had some titanic battles with Manchester United's Sir Alex Ferguson.
There have been some memorable encounters between the two sides with plenty of fireworks along the way, none more so than in the 1999 FA Cup semi-final when Dennis Bergkamp had a last minute penalty saved by Peter Schmeichel.
The game went to extra time and ten-man United triumphed with a Ryan Giggs wonder goal to keep them on course for an unprecedented Treble.
Arsenal famously clinched the title at Old Trafford when Sylvain Wiltord scored the only goal of the game past Fabien Barthez in 2002 and Marc Overmars's winner at the same venue four years earlier also went a long way to ensuring The Gunners lifted the trophy.
United have had the advantage this season with three wins over the North Londoners, including the so-called 'pizzagate' clash when The Red Devils ended Arsenal's 49-match unbeaten record and there was a spat in the tunnel and dressing room afterwards.
Those three successes mean that, since the two managers first crossed swords, both have won on 11 occasions.
So it is winner takes all this weekend on Cup Final Saturday - who will nudge ahead in the battle of the bosses?

Ferguson v Wenger:

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal
Winterburn own goal. 16/11/96.

Arsenal 1-2 Man Utd
Bergkamp; Cole, Solskjaer. 19/2/97.

Arsenal 3-2 Man Utd
Anelka, Vieira, Platt; Sheringham 2. 9/11/97.

Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal
Overmars. 14/3/98.

Arsenal 3-0 Man Utd, Community Shield.
Overmars, Wreh, Anelka. 9/8/98.

Arsenal 3-0 Man Utd
Adams, Anelka, Ljungberg. 20/9/98.

Man Utd 1-1 Arsenal
Cole; Anelka. 17/2/99.

Man Utd 0-0 Arsenal, FA Cup.
11/4/99.

Man Utd 2-1 Arsenal, FA Cup.
Beckham, Giggs; Bergkamp. 14/4/99.

Arsenal 2-1 Man Utd, Community Shield.
Kanu (pen), Parlour; Beckham. 1/8/99.

Arsenal 1-2 Man Utd
Ljungberg; Keane 2. 22/8/99.

Man Utd 1-1 Arsenal
Sheringham; Ljungberg. 24/1/00.

Arsenal 1-0 Man Utd
Henry. 1/10/00.

Man Utd 6-1 Arsenal
Yorke 3, Keane, Solskjaer, Sheringham; Henry. 25/2/01.

Arsenal 4-0 Man Utd, League Cup.
Wiltord 3 (1 pen), Kanu (pen). 5/11/01.

Arsenal 3-1 Man Utd
Ljungberg, Henry 2; Scholes. 25/11/01.

Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal
Wiltord. 8/5/02.

Man Utd 2-0 Arsenal
Veron, Scholes. 7/12/02.

Man Utd 0-2 Arsenal
Edu, Wiltord. 15/2/03.

Arsenal 2-2 Man Utd
Henry 2; Van Nistelrooy, Giggs. 16/4/03.

Man Utd 1-1 Arsenal, Community Shield. Utd won 4-3 on pens.
Silvestre; Henry. 10/8/03.

Man Utd 0-0 Arsenal
21/9/03.

Arsenal 1-1 Man Utd
Henry; Saha. 28/3/04.

Arsenal 0-1 Man Utd, FA Cup.
Scholes. 3/4/04.

Arsenal 3-1 Man Utd, Community Shield
Gilberto, Reyes, Silvestre og; Smith. 8/8/04.

Man Utd 2-0 Arsenal
Van Nistelrooy (pen), Rooney. 24/10/04.

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal, League Cup.
Bellion. 1/12/04.

Arsenal 2-4 Man Utd
Vieira, Bergkamp; Giggs, Ronaldo 2, O'Shea. 1/2/05.

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predictions on score for final?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

2-1 arsenal

[adi 101]

fergie is a better manager then wenger right now mourinho is probably the best in the premiership and maybe even sam alardyce!!!!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

sam allardyce?? he has done a good job but am sure if he was a foreign manager he wouldnt get half as much credit as he hadnt won anything

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by adi 101 fergie is a better manager then wenger right now mourinho is probably the best in the premiership and maybe even sam alardyce!!!!!!!

? ? and whys that?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

AJ - fergie isnt french so he is better

[karachiite]

Fergie + Queroz have been too good for Wenger so far.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

queiroz - what a legend!!! showed what he could do at real! - if he is who man utd want in charge - WELL THEN THAT'S JUST GREAT.


it maybe even worse if it is found out that fergie deliberately told his players to kick arsenal about - i wouldnt put it past him

[Jameel]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Originally Posted by adi 101 fergie is a better manager then wenger right now mourinho is probably the best in the premiership and maybe even sam alardyce!!!!!!! ? ? and whys that?

You think Wenger is better than Fergie? LMAO.

Fergie is unbeaten in 7 competitve matches against Wenger even though he's past his sell by date.

Wenger is good when it comes to playing attractive football but when it comes down to man management and motivation Fergie is head and shoulders above him.

Let Wenger achieve what Fergie has and then you can talk.

As for Quieroz, he's a good assistant. He's not quite good enough to be manager, but I'd take him as an assistant. He failed at Real, but he wasn't helped by Perez and co. Theres too much poltics at that club.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

and queiroz was so naive that he didnt realise that it would be like that??

wenger is more my sort of manager - his sides play footy the way it should be played - cruyff's philosophy of total football

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Jameel Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Originally Posted by adi 101 fergie is a better manager then wenger right now mourinho is probably the best in the premiership and maybe even sam alardyce!!!!!!! ? ? and whys that? You think Wenger is better than Fergie? LMAO. Fergie is unbeaten in 7 competitve matches against Wenger even though he's past his sell by date. Wenger is good when it comes to playing attractive football but when it comes down to man management and motivation Fergie is head and shoulders above him. Let Wenger achieve what Fergie has and then you can talk. As for Quieroz, he's a good assistant. He's not quite good enough to be manager, but I'd take him as an assistant. He failed at Real, but he wasn't helped by Perez and co. Theres too much poltics at that club.

plz state where i said wenger was better?

i didnt... so please dont open ur mouth and talk!

i asked a question why does he think fergie is better...!

fergie has been in charge off man united for 18 years... what did he win in his 1st 8 years?

what has wenger won in his 1st 8 seasons?

u cant compare the managers yet....!

[Jameel]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Originally Posted by Jameel Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Originally Posted by adi 101 fergie is a better manager then wenger right now mourinho is probably the best in the premiership and maybe even sam alardyce!!!!!!! ? ? and whys that? You think Wenger is better than Fergie? LMAO. Fergie is unbeaten in 7 competitve matches against Wenger even though he's past his sell by date. Wenger is good when it comes to playing attractive football but when it comes down to man management and motivation Fergie is head and shoulders above him. Let Wenger achieve what Fergie has and then you can talk. As for Quieroz, he's a good assistant. He's not quite good enough to be manager, but I'd take him as an assistant. He failed at Real, but he wasn't helped by Perez and co. Theres too much poltics at that club. plz state where i said wenger was better? i didnt... so please dont open ur mouth and talk! i asked a question why does he think fergie is better...! fergie has been in charge off man united for 18 years... what did he win in his 1st 8 years? what has wenger won in his 1st 8 seasons? u cant compare the managers yet....!

The ? in the first post suggested you disagreed with adi.

The reason Wenger won stuff in his first few years is because he inherited a good team. He had the old back four given to him on a plate and made a few additions when he first came.

Fergie had an average side and needed to rebuild the whole team again. It was obivous he wasn't going to win much in his first few years. He was on the brink of getting sacked in 1990 before he won the FA cup and started winning trohpies for fun.

Anyway, you are right lets stop comparing them. Lets see what Wenger has won after 18 years (if he lasts that long).