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He Should never be chosen as Captain - its a ridiculous move 38 27.94%
Give him a chance against Zimbabwe - good choice 98 72.06%
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Old 16th January 2008, 20:51
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Shahid Afridi as Captain of Pakistan ?

Murmurs from within the corridors of the PCB that Afridi could be the skipper for the one day series versus Zimbabwe. Surely not some will say, why not it would be a refreshing and interesting change others will say.

I would have laughed this one off until I saw Afridi skipper his Karachi team in a Twenty/20 domestic tournament last year. He was aggressive, innovative and a breath of fresh air.

But do you think it's a wise choice?
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:04
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He is one of the most active players on field, always encouraging others.
Has done well captaining in domestic tournaments, so we might as well see what all the fuss of him wanting to be captain of Pakistan was all about.
So i say, lets see it!
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:15
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You need to give chance to him now or never!!
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:18
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My question is.......if does good vs Zim - not just win but also show that he make good decisions and can lead by example then;

1) Does he continue for Australian series?
2) If yes then just ODIs or just Test matches or both?
3) If just ODIs, then who would be the test captain?
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:22
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My question is.......if does good vs Zim - not just win but also show that he make good decisions and can lead by example then;

1) Does he continue for Australian series?
2) If yes then just ODIs or just Test matches or both?
3) If just ODIs, then who would be the test captain?
Same stuff came to my mind exactly, minus point 3.

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Old 16th January 2008, 21:24
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Give him a chance now against zimbabwe , Afridi is leadership material , Agressive approach to the game , is what is required from pakistan , Afridi is the right way to go
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:36
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it would be most idiotic decision made in the history of Pakistani cricket. nothing can top it - nothing at all.
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:41
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give him a chance mate atleast in One days. He will be good for Pakistan. I think he will respect command from players and will be aggressive
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:44
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we should give afridi a chance. we have never tried him before i think being a skipper.
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Old 16th January 2008, 21:45
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As I said in the other thread, I think this would be a fantastic decision because I'd like to try something other than lily-livered captaincy.

Forget tigers, Afridi is a ferocious lion in every fibre in his body. I'd be very interested to see what a Pakistani team would be like under Afridi. In terms of talent in our players, that's out of his control, eg we don't have many lightning bowlers in the country (Afridi would have probably selected all of them), but I'd LOVE to see what Pakistan would be like under Afridi in terms of mentality, attitude, intensity
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Old 16th January 2008, 22:07
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This would be a great move. Its a useless series, and its a great thing to try out. We really need an agressive guy who takes bold descions, and from Pakistan's lot, it will only be Afridi. This series can help us tell whether he has the makings of a captain or not. Most likely we will win anyway, so that's not the criteria, but more his leadership on the field and his motivation towards other players, and possibly his own batting too.
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Old 16th January 2008, 22:22
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I ould have Younis Captain If malik is not fit.
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Old 16th January 2008, 22:35
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Just imagine if Afridi takes 12 wickets and scores 3 fifties and Malik still isnt fit for the Aussie series and Afridi retains the captaincy for the Aussie series.

We'll either get totally destroyed (which will probably happen anyway) or we'll give the Aussies a bloody nose they'll never forget!!
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Old 16th January 2008, 22:44
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Give him a chance against Zimbabwe - good choice
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Old 16th January 2008, 22:47
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Zimbabwe isn't much competition, if Afridi is to be given a run as captain, it should be against tougher competition, to show where he really stands.

Also, what does that say to our VC Misbah, if Malik is out, then shouldn't Misbah be the next one to lead the team?
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Old 16th January 2008, 23:04
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Bad decision.
They should have never made Misbah the vice captain if the job was going to go to Afridi.
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Old 16th January 2008, 23:21
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Old 16th January 2008, 23:39
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Bad decision.
They should have never made Misbah the vice captain if the job was going to go to Afridi.
PP, was making Misbah vice captain actually ever confirmed? I never remember reading it through an official and reliable website such as BBC and Cricinfo.
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I think its a fantastic idea, Malik, whether he is fit or not should be replaced as captain anyway and from the candidates, I believe Afridi is the best option. He is positive, aggressive, is a great tactician, his own performances have improved as captain and he can relay a sort of energy into his players that perhaps no other cricketer can in Pakistan.
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Bad decision.
They should have never made Misbah the vice captain if the job was going to go to Afridi.
Same could be said about Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Yousaf, Younis Khan..etc etc etc etc
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PP, was making Misbah vice captain actually ever confirmed? I never remember reading it through an official and reliable website such as BBC and Cricinfo.
good point- i just searched the story and it is indeed quite surprising that the news was not on cricinfo, BBC or even Dawn. So if Misbah was never appointed and Younis declinded to continue then i agree that Afridi is the best option.
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Old 17th January 2008, 00:33
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a person who can't bat responsibly can't lead a team in my opinion. This would be the worst move ever by PCB....not sure why captaincy is such a huge issue in Pakistan. They need to get rid of old farts and re-build a team around young talent. I am only saying that because PCB is very incompetent when selecting the right candidate for the job...they always were and always will be!
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Old 17th January 2008, 00:53
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good point- i just searched the story and it is indeed quite surprising that the news was not on cricinfo, BBC or even Dawn. So if Misbah was never appointed and Younis declinded to continue then i agree that Afridi is the best option.
Dawn speculates it might be Younis


http://www.dawn.com/2008/01/16/spt2.htm

It is likely that prolific batsman Younis Khan will be leading Pakistan in the absence of an unfit Shoaib Malik during the forthcoming One-day International series against Zimbabwe.

Although Malik did attend the first day of the short training camp at the Gaddafi Stadium on Tuesday, he still had a bandage on his left ankle, which has been giving him trouble since after the first Test against India in November.

“I will only play if I’m 100 per cent fit. If not, I may prefer leaving the series against Zimbabwe,” Malik told reporters after attending the first session of the camp.

“It does not seem fair for a half-fit player to play for his country,” the captain said.

“I have started gym training, running and cycling but will ultimately be following doctor’s advice about whether I should resume playing in the series against Zimbabwe,” he added.
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Dawn speculates it might be Younis


http://www.dawn.com/2008/01/16/spt2.htm

It is likely that prolific batsman Younis Khan will be leading Pakistan in the absence of an unfit Shoaib Malik during the forthcoming One-day International series against Zimbabwe.

Although Malik did attend the first day of the short training camp at the Gaddafi Stadium on Tuesday, he still had a bandage on his left ankle, which has been giving him trouble since after the first Test against India in November.

“I will only play if I’m 100 per cent fit. If not, I may prefer leaving the series against Zimbabwe,” Malik told reporters after attending the first session of the camp.


“It does not seem fair for a half-fit player to play for his country,” the captain said.

“I have started gym training, running and cycling but will ultimately be following doctor’s advice about whether I should resume playing in the series against Zimbabwe,” he added.

I hope it is younis, he is the person who is automatic choice in both forms of a game and deserve to lead the team. I hope selectors consult him while them choose the team and no one but coach should interfere while selecting XI
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Oh man, Younis will be leading Pak? That's not any interesting...or fun.
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Old 17th January 2008, 05:42
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There is this issue between Younis khan and Afridi, more so Afridi as he has been for long time now interested in captaincy since Inzimam, you must have followed the clashes of Afridi and Younins may very well have to do with the captaincy matter as he seems not to be ready to accept Younis as a captain becuase he thinks he should have been the one. Now there are surely few players in team that may support or influance afridi to do so. That also explains the reluctancy of Younis khan to accept captaincy specially in ODI's as he knows few players will not play for him.
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Old 17th January 2008, 07:42
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Anyone could captain the team v zimbabwe it wont be that hard.

Like i said on another thread afridi could be made captain and pakistan could win 5-0 and some would proclaim him greater then imran khan!
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Old 17th January 2008, 12:10
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People keep on saying he is aggressive. Well, there is a difference between being aggressive and being stupid. ANd afridi is stupid. HE should never be the captain of a team already filled with idiots and egotistic players, coz he tops them all
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Old 17th January 2008, 12:14
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Let's just wait and see. No one is saying he will be THE captain after this series. Let's see how he leads Pakistan, we've seen him captain at domestic level and this warm up he's done quite well. Can he brush all that up to the highest level? well that's the next step and there's only one way to find out! Malik's out, Afridi in as captain. That would be quite sensible, see how he skippers the team, let the PCB assess his leadership qualities(even though AJ said it is only zimb, u cant just relax on your backside there's still work to be done!).
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good point- i just searched the story and it is indeed quite surprising that the news was not on cricinfo, BBC or even Dawn. So if Misbah was never appointed and Younis declinded to continue then i agree that Afridi is the best option.
Well ........ I heard on Geo TV that Misbah-Ul-Haq is now appointed as vice-captain it´s strange that even I never read on websites .
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it would be most idiotic decision made in the history of Pakistani cricket. nothing can top it - nothing at all.
Absolutely agree.

Oh´ no! All Afrdi-ites please forgive me if my opinion hurt anyone of you . After all, everyone has his own opinion when it comes to voting, right?
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Old 17th January 2008, 12:40
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Theres no harm in trying Afridi as captain if Malik is missing the series against zimbabwe. Maybe the role of captaincy would bring some responsibility in the way he conducts himself while batting... no harm in trying him out in my opinion.
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the pcb havent cleared it yet so just wait and see untill the day comes hey!
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It would be a fantastic idea. Not just because anything is better then the dim-wit Malik. But considering the fits yunis gets on becoming captain, he is the best candidate at the moment.
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Afridi does deserve a chance. He has never been given the chance and its about time we give him the ultimate responsibility. Younis Khan doesnt deserve the captaincy given that he has blown so many chances that came his way and i dont think he is very diplomatic either. Malik has to prove his place in the side but i have other concerns as well, i dont think he really commands the respect from everyone else. If there is anyone else, it has to be Afridi, he has played for almost 12 years now and it is time to repay him.
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Old 17th January 2008, 17:49
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Is there no other way of bring him in the first 11?
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Any body besides shoaib Malik is good for me as long as the player is aggressive and can have some kind of a say and have control over the team. Shoaib Malik just doesn't have any captain type personality.
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I think Afridi in ODI captain is not a bad move. in Tests I am not so sure. I really liked his captaincy in 20/20 and how he got his team motivated and how they rallied behind him
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Afridi should have been given the chance just to check how well/poor he really is. It would have ended this debate once & for all. But now we are stuck with Malik- did he really have to lead the side vs Zim? We already know how "poor'" he really is, PCB should have named some new as captain just to see how well he does...
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Pakpassion has spoken, we want Afridi as captain - it's a pity Malik is now back. We need to see what an aggressive lion can do.
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give him chance
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he deserves..Pakistan deserves a better captain..

cum'on.. he 'll do definitely do better than anyone else... n spcly than Malik
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I think he should be a given a chance though I must question the structure of him getting his captaincy, logically Afridi should have been the vice captain prior to stepping up but when did Pak cricket stick by a structure?
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The biggest problem is malik and Afridi don't seem to get along and malik seem to be the biggest resistance to trying out new players.
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Afridi like Younis like Akhtar is not responsible enough to be captain.

A man who can't resist playing stupid shots because by his own words he can't handle the pressure of expectation is never going to be a good choice,

2ndally the man plays for himself and not the country. Don't care what he brings to the table but this fact should rule him out straight away.
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Old 20th January 2008, 19:33
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The polls are 2 to 1 in Afridi's favour,

Could we please have stats on the split of active users by age. Cut-off being 12 years.
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Old 20th January 2008, 20:17
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Afridi like Younis like Akhtar is not responsible enough to be captain.

A man who can't resist playing stupid shots because by his own words he can't handle the pressure of expectation is never going to be a good choice,

2ndally the man plays for himself and not the country. Don't care what he brings to the table but this fact should rule him out straight away.
he can bat responsibly and captaincy will improve his overall performance.
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Old 20th January 2008, 22:05
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he can bat responsibly and captaincy will improve his overall performance.
I can think of only once when he batter responsibly,

The guy says himself that he is not willing to listen to anyone.

This should not even be up for a discussion.
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Old 20th January 2008, 22:41
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I can think of only once when he batter responsibly,

The guy says himself that he is not willing to listen to anyone.

This should not even be up for a discussion.
dont be such a saddo. itll bring fun back into what has been a depressing year, afridi is the greatest entertainer in the history of cricket. make him captain and itll bring enjoyment bck to cricket. we even enjoy his dancing on the pitch.for too long the pakistani team has played with fear. afridi will turn it in to a brave team. it was funny when i saw his interview on geo, where he went to see his brother play , and told him to play responsibly because the tv cameras were there. shahid afridi zindabad
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Old 21st January 2008, 19:27
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I second that, good post.

Shahid Afridi is one homogeneous mass of pure entertainment. And I watch cricket to be entertained, not as a maths assignment or a statistic-gathering exercise.
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dont be such a saddo. itll bring fun back into what has been a depressing year, afridi is the greatest entertainer in the history of cricket. make him captain and itll bring enjoyment bck to cricket. we even enjoy his dancing on the pitch.for too long the pakistani team has played with fear. afridi will turn it in to a brave team. it was funny when i saw his interview on geo, where he went to see his brother play , and told him to play responsibly because the tv cameras were there. shahid afridi zindabad

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Old 21st January 2008, 19:47
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I would rather have a Pakistan winning matches than a Pakistan swinging the bat around some lunatic on crack. Even if it means I have to be a saddo.
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