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Old 29th February 2008, 20:16
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Kiya Urdu ko Pakistan ki qaumi zubaan hona chahiyai?

Pakistan duniya kai bohat kum aisai mumalik mein se hai, jis mein darjano zubanain boli jaati hain aur jis mein kayee sau mukhtalif reeto rewaaj maujood hain. Pakistan ki adhi se ziyada tar abadi Punjabi hai, abadi ka aik chotha hisa Sindhi aur baaqi ki abadi ziada tar Pathan, balochi ya kashmiri kehlayee jaati hai.

Is poorai mulq mein bohat kum aisai log hain jau Urdu kau apni pehli zubaan kehte hain leikin phir bhi Urdu humari qaumi zubaan hai?

Is sab ko madai nazar rakhtai huwai, Kiya urdu ki jaga kissi aur zubaan kau humari qaumi zubaan hona chahiyai?
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Old 29th February 2008, 23:02
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is there are actually any area of pakistan where urdu is the indeginous language?
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Old 29th February 2008, 23:06
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کیا، پکستان میں کوئی ایسا علاقہ ہے جس میں اردو اس کی آبائی زبان ہو ؟
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Old 1st March 2008, 07:48
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کیا، پکستان میں کوئی ایسا علاقہ ہے جس میں اردو اس کی آبائی زبان ہو ؟
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Old 1st March 2008, 10:26
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Karachi mein bhi har koi urdu apni pehli zubaan kai taur pai nahin bolta. Aadhi se ziada abadi Karachi mein Sindhi ya Balochi bolti hai. Urdu kai bolnai ka sabab hi sirf yai hai kai woh humari Qaumi Zubaan hai.

Merai khyall mein Urdu Pakistan ki abadi ki ehsase maflooji ki waja se Qaumi zubaan bani hai. Pakistani ban-nai kai waqt pai, parai likhai aur kaabil muslmaan ziada tar Urdu boltai thai aur is liye Urdu ko yeh shahana tabqa pehle se hi haasil tha.
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Old 2nd March 2008, 21:23
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bilkul honi chahiye..kyunke urdu aaj bhi poore pakistan mein sab se zyada Samjhi jaane wali zuban hai
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Old 3rd March 2008, 20:34
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bilkul honi chahiye..kyunke urdu aaj bhi poore pakistan mein sab se zyada Samjhi jaane wali zuban hai


بے شک اردو ملک کے ہر ایک حصے میں سمجھی جاتی ہے لیکن اس مفرد بنا پر اسے قومی زبان برقرار رہنا چاہیے ؟ اس جدید دور کے حوالے سے کیا اردو ایک بین القوامی میار کی زبان ہے یا نہیں ہے ؟ کیونکہ بہت دفہ ایسا محسوس ہوتا ہے کہ ہر ایک اردو بولنے، تحریر ،ا شاعت اور نسریات کرنے والے کی پوشیدہ خوائش یہ ہے کہ وہ انگریزی بولیں، لکھیں وغیرہ وغیرہ . اردو والوں میں اپنی زبان میں فخر اور گمان نہیں ہے کہ وہ انگریزی کے اتنے دل دادہ ہیں ؟
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Old 3rd March 2008, 20:52
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بات رہی قومی زبان کی . میرے نزدیک اردو ہی کو قومی زبان برقرار رہنا چاہیے مگر، حکومتی ستح پر فوراً اردو زبان کی محافظاتی منسوبہ بندی اور حکت عملی طے کی جانی چاہیے تاکہ وہ انگریزی کی بھرتی ہوئی آلودگی سے محفوظ رہے .
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مادری زبان کو بھی نہیں بھولنا چاہیے ! کہا جاتا ہے کہ بچوں کو دوسری زبان میں ابتدائی تعلیم دینے کا ایک نتیجہ نا خواندگی ہے .
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مغربی اور مشرقی پاکستان کا بٹوارا بھی قومی زبان کے مسئلے سے شروع ہوا تھا !!! اس میں ہمارے لیے ایک مستقل سبق اور تنبیہ ہے !!!!
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Old 3rd March 2008, 21:40
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agar Urdu na ho to knosi ho? English??? Agar education system sahi ho, meaning no distinction between private, public english and urdu medium then maybe. It will be good to say to a bun kabab wala "gimme' two homie and slap on some extra chutnee"
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Old 3rd March 2008, 21:42
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Agar education system sahi ho
a perfect example of my earlier point
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a perfect example of my earlier point
did I spell something wrong? no seriously but probably the better thing will be to have a national language which is separate then provincial language. Now two options are Urdu or English. English is also an official language I think but that requires more education reforms and Urdu is probably easier to learn because of the alphabets and a bit of commanilty with some regional language. Arabic is not an option for me
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Old 3rd March 2008, 21:59
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did I spell something wrong? no seriously but probably the better thing will be to have a national language which is separate then provincial language. Now two options are Urdu or English. English is also an official language I think but that requires more education reforms and Urdu is probably easier to learn because of the alphabets and a bit of commanilty with some regional language. Arabic is not an option for me
no spelling mistakes but "Agar education system sahi ho" as far as i am concerned in neither english nor urdu.

What language is it exacxtly, 3 words are urdu and two are english!

if we want urdu as a national language then lets speak urdu and rid it of it's contamination by english!

i am presuminmg you don't read urdu 12th. man?
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no spelling mistakes but "Agar education system sahi ho" as far as i am concerned in neither english nor urdu.

What language is it exacxtly, 3 words are urdu and two are english!

if we want urdu as a national language then lets speak urdu and rid it of it's contamination by english!

i am presuminmg you don't read urdu 12th. man?
I read urdu fine but typing is hard (be it roman urdu). I do think it is getting weaker. But not writing it for years has also an affect and reading urdu on monitor is hard for me. But monitor is where I have seen Urdu for a few years. 3 words english and 2 in urdu made me laugh (it was funny not being sarcastic) as I think that is how me and few of my friends speak now. lekin if I look at some of the shows on Pakistani channels, samjh nahi aata kay show urdu mein hay kay english mein aur nazerien kahan say hein. I don't even get any Pakistani channels at home so I can go weeks without hearing or speaking urdu
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thats my whole point, why have urdu as a national language when everyones aspiration seems to be to speak english

if you can read urdu then have read through my posts above in which i have made this point
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Urdu kai qaumi zubaan honai se Pakistan mein bohat se nkma waqiat huwai hain. Kaafi ilaqon mein Urdu zubaan kai himayat ko oonch neech ki sarfrazi samjha jata hai. Is zuban ko is darja dainai ki waja se Pakistan mein kayee fasadaat huwai hain aur mulk kai dau tukrai honai ki aik waja bhi Urdu ka qaumi zubaan hona mana jaata hai.
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بات رہی قومی زبان کی . میرے نزدیک اردو ہی کو قومی زبان برقرار رہنا چاہیے مگر، حکومتی ستح پر فوراً اردو زبان کی محافظاتی منسوبہ بندی اور حکت عملی طے کی جانی چاہیے تاکہ وہ انگریزی کی بھرتی ہوئی آلودگی سے محفوظ رہے .
آپ کی بات بلکل ٹھیک ہے لیکن اس بارے میں حکومتوں کو کیا اقدامات اٹھانے چاھیے ذرا وضاحت فرمائیں
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جا نی میر ے خیا ل میں پشتو قو می ز با ن ہو نی چا ہیے

کیا خیا ل ہے
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جا نی میر ے خیا ل میں پشتو قو می ز با ن ہو نی چا ہیے

کیا خیا ل ہے
میں اپ کی اس بات سے متّفق نہیں۔ پشتو کو پوری دنیا کی قومی زبان ہونی چاہیے.

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pakistanion main taleem hasil kerne ka shook hona chahiye khwaa woh urdu main ho english pashto,punjabi, ya french main...aur zubanoo ko ekk maharat ke toor per sikhna chahiye,, ajj kal pakistan main urdu ka woh hasher ho raha hai jo kal hum nai punjabi,pashto,sindhi,saraiki ka kia tha, woh yeh ke fashion urdu ka tha to sab urdu ko awal zaban bana bethe aur baqiyia zubano ko kher abad ker diya sara litrature urdu main ho giya aur dosri ilaqai zubane sirf bulleh shah, waris shah ki zuban hi reh gai...aur ajj kal engraizee zuban par hai to urdu bolne wale to jahil ho gai hain..
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pakistanion main taleem hasil kerne ka shook hona chahiye khwaa woh urdu main ho english pashto,punjabi, ya french main...aur zubanoo ko ekk maharat ke toor per sikhna chahiye,, ajj kal pakistan main urdu ka woh hasher ho raha hai jo kal hum nai punjabi,pashto,sindhi,saraiki ka kia tha, woh yeh ke fashion urdu ka tha to sab urdu ko awal zaban bana bethe aur baqiyia zubano ko kher abad ker diya sara litrature urdu main ho giya aur dosri ilaqai zubane sirf bulleh shah, waris shah ki zuban hi reh gai...aur ajj kal engraizee zuban par hai to urdu bolne wale to jahil ho gai hain..


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