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Old 8th April 2008, 16:35
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Ashraful - A Good Example as Skipper?

Time and again we see this guy look set, build the foundations of a solid innings and throw it all away with a ridiculous shot.

The talent seems to be there, but the temperament and patience seems to be lacking.

Is this guy the right example to the younger Bengali players, is he the right choice as skipper?

I've always been a big fan of his, but even I seem to be running out of excuses for him.
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Old 8th April 2008, 16:42
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Time and again we see this guy look set, build the foundations of a solid innings and throw it all away with a ridiculous shot.

The talent seems to be there, but the temperament and patience seems to be lacking.

Is this guy the right example to the younger Bengali players, is he the right choice as skipper?

I've always been a big fan of his, but even I seem to be running out of excuses for him.
Well i think it was wrong to appoint Ashraful as a captain so early in his career but what else could they have done? Rafiq has retired by now. Habib Ul Bashar isnt the same batsman anymore. Bangladesh dont even have any good role model cricketers yet. They have to do the best they have with whatever they have got. In any case, i think the first thing they need to do is to look for some good fast bowlers in domestic cricket, their attack is to weak at the moment, they need to counsel these fast bowlers about the diet they should be on e.t.c? They have pretty good spinners, batting is also a problem but they will get better with more matches.
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Old 8th April 2008, 17:28
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I think Saqib-ul-Hasan is the best choice for captain ,he might be not talented as Ashraful ,Tamim and Aftab but he can cope pressure well(Infact the best player under tight situation) plus the fact he can bowl 10 overs which makes him ideal for captain.
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Old 8th April 2008, 17:31
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i think they need to hand over captaincy to someone senior and let this guy Ashraful play freely.

to be frank. Ashraful is no graeme Smith who can handle the team at such young age.. Smith had a good back up in batting line.. Ashraful has full young team along with him.. which doesn't really help..

so its better this guy bat only and put his concentration only on that.. may be bring back Habibul Bashar and let him lead for anothe ryear or two and let ashraful plaly under his captaincy and bat fully freely
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Old 8th April 2008, 17:39
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For someone who has played over a hundred ODIs, he still lacks judgment and maturity. Once in a while he gets it right and ends up with 90 off 60 - but most of the time he gets it wrong. Bring back Habibul Bashar!
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Old 8th April 2008, 17:59
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For someone who has played over a hundred ODIs, he still lacks judgment and maturity. Once in a while he gets it right and ends up with 90 off 60 - but most of the time he gets it wrong. Bring back Habibul Bashar!
His shot selection is horrendous. He makes the same mistakes again and again. But then again, hes never had someone to look upto in terms of a Bangladeshi batting legend.
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Old 8th April 2008, 18:20
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sakib Al Hassan Will Be The Next Caps Thats For Sure Cuz Ash Is Having Too Much Pressure In Cricket His Not Playing Good At-all
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Old 8th April 2008, 20:00
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i think they need to hand over captaincy to someone senior and let this guy Ashraful play freely.

to be frank. Ashraful is no graeme Smith who can handle the team at such young age.. Smith had a good back up in batting line.. Ashraful has full young team along with him.. which doesn't really help..

so its better this guy bat only and put his concentration only on that.. may be bring back Habibul Bashar and let him lead for anothe ryear or two and let ashraful plaly under his captaincy and bat fully freely

Thats exactly the problem....hardly anyone senior to him.
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Old 9th April 2008, 15:00
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I think Saqib-ul-Hasan is the best choice for captain ,he might be not talented as Ashraful ,Tamim and Aftab but he can cope pressure well(Infact the best player under tight situation) plus the fact he can bowl 10 overs which makes him ideal for captain.
hes a good captain.u are right.bd tied with a full strength sa team in practice match under his captaincy.
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Old 9th April 2008, 15:03
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First thing he needs to care about is his team batting out 50 overs.
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Old 9th April 2008, 21:42
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He's been handed a very young and inexperienced squad hasnt he. I always feel that its useful to have one or two older generals still in the squad to help out and advise the skipper.

Take Graeme Smith for example, he had Pollock and Kallis to fall back on, but Ashraful doesnt really seem to have anyone to speak to for advice.

Its a massive task at the moment for him and the pressure must be huge.
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Old 9th April 2008, 22:03
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I think the captain should have been Mashrafee Murtaza or a regular spinner (Razzaq???). Their game would not have affected much and they would have gone on the way they do. Let the other youngster learn the game first
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Old 11th April 2008, 04:14
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wrong question. I prefer the question whether he should be in the team. He did nothing to justify his position in the team starting from selecting the team to his shot selection
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Old 11th April 2008, 04:23
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Age should have nothing to do with it as far as I am concerned. Ashraful has played enough ODIs to know how it works and I do feel he can be a good captain. The trick is to not think of yourself as a captain and just play freely. I think the pressure is getting to the poor guy but the majority of this pressure is actually self exerted. Ashraful should have a night to reflect upon his situation and calm his nerves. He needs to see that he doesn't have to be a role model or anything. Just let your game do the talking and the rest will always fall into place. I am a huge fan of his and do not want him to go into the wilderness because he does have immense talent but he must work on that patience of his.
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Old 11th April 2008, 04:33
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He's been handed a very young and inexperienced squad hasnt he. I always feel that its useful to have one or two older generals still in the squad to help out and advise the skipper.

Take Graeme Smith for example, he had Pollock and Kallis to fall back on, but Ashraful doesnt really seem to have anyone to speak to for advice.

Its a massive task at the moment for him and the pressure must be huge.
You have said it, bro.

This is what I've been saying for a while in other forums.
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:36
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Jamie Siddons, the Bangladesh coach, has called on his captain and most experienced batsman, Mohammad Ashraful, to start performing ahead of their fourth ODI against Pakistan in Multan.

Ashraful has had a poor series so far, scoring only 47 runs in three innings, as Bangladesh have relied heavily on contributions from Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah Riad and Shakib Al Hasan. "I am concerned about his performances," Siddons said. "As captain of the team, he needs to perform and score."

It can't yet be said how captaincy has affected Ashraful's batting. He averages two runs more than his career figure of 22.26 in 15 matches as captain, though he has only scored two fifties in that period. But when Bangladesh have done well, he has usually been at the centre.

He looked to be getting some form back in the third ODI in Lahore, but he was run out when set, for 22. "Ashraful is the most experienced batsman in our side," Siddons said. "Whenever he performs the team wins. I have spoken to him about it. The way he has been training I think a big score is round the corner."

Siddons will hope his words have the same effect on Ashraful that they did on Shakib. After the second ODI in Faisalabad, Siddons highlighted the need for his top six - particularly Shakib - to start scoring runs. Shakib responded with 75 in the third ODI, taking Bangladesh closer than many thought to Pakistan.

"I put the heat on Shakib and Aftab [Ahmed] after Faisalabad and they responded well to it," Siddons said. "I am now putting the heat on Ashraful in the same way. I am confident he will come good in the last two matches."

Bangladesh's batting has improved as the series has progressed and their total in Lahore was comfortably their highest against established opposition, as well as their highest second innings score in an ODI. If Ashraful joins Tamim, Shakib and Aftab in scoring runs against an experimental Pakistan attack, we may well have a match on our hands.

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Old 15th April 2008, 11:48
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Time and again we see this guy look set, build the foundations of a solid innings and throw it all away with a ridiculous shot.

The talent seems to be there, but the temperament and patience seems to be lacking.

Is this guy the right example to the younger Bengali players, is he the right choice as skipper?

I've always been a big fan of his, but even I seem to be running out of excuses for him.
After well over a 100 ODIs and close to 50 tests, he's the closest thing we have to a veteran. There are no old heads who can steer the ship, because Rafique's retired, Mashud's out of favour and Bashar's best days have well and truly passed.

There is no guy to set the right example, as they're all as impulsive and irresponsible as each other.

He's the most suitable captain we have.
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Old 15th April 2008, 11:52
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maybe alternating the captain thru the team.. it wont do any harm.. just start giving players more responsibility and experience?
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