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Old 3rd May 2008, 23:53
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Harmison could retire if England don't recall him

Steve Harmison is likely to quit cricket if he fails to win back his England place, the fast bowler said on Sunday.

The Durham paceman was dropped after England lost the first Test in New Zealand in March and in his absence the team won two
matches in a row to take the series 2-1.

"The prospect of playing for England is what drives me and if I felt my chance of doing that was gone the probability is I'd retire from first-class cricket altogether," Harmison told the Mail on Sunday newspaper.

"This is not an ultimatum or me trying to impose conditions on anyone. But I am 29 now and if I felt my England career was over I would be tempted to say I want to do something different with my life."

Although Harmison retired from one-day internationals in 2006, he is desperate to add to his haul of 212 Test wickets.

"I am absolutely determined to show I have something to offer England," he said. "I certainly do not believe I am finished.

"After a terrible year for me on the field with injuries, operations and so little cricket it is ridiculous, my aim is to bowl fast, take wickets and give the selectors something to think about."

England open the three-match home series against New Zealand
with the first Test at Lord's starting on May 15.

http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/...D-HARMISON.php
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Old 4th May 2008, 00:03
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Old 4th May 2008, 00:59
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IPL anyone?
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Old 4th May 2008, 01:08
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IPL anyone?
If anyone in IPL is dumb enough to pay
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Old 4th May 2008, 01:54
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I think Harmisson had an exceptional 1-2 years against an average Windies team - probably thought he was 'IT'. He was great to watch, and deserved the top rating - but it didnt last.

Always had a 'home sicknes' issue which couldnt have helped.

I think IPL is making a lot of players put their bank balanace first above country.

Given the choice, I can see a few more saying 'thanks, but no thanks' to England and being lured to a bigpay day for IPL.

We have seen that rational thinking goes out of the window when it comes to bidding for these players.

And you get paid even if they dont pick you!
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Old 4th May 2008, 01:58
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Looks like he's taking the 'Razzaq' attitude to being dropped instead of fighting for his place and proving he deserves it!
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Old 4th May 2008, 02:08
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He can try his hand at IPL. After all it is all about entertainment. More pie throwers are welcome.
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Old 4th May 2008, 02:11
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Old 4th May 2008, 03:19
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Always laughed at this:-

That is GOLD !

Harmison should stop acting like a rich blonde teenager and start acting like a man. He is dropped from the side because he is crap.

Get your act together, perform in the county circuit and get back in the team instead of throwing toys out of the pram like Razzaq.
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Old 4th May 2008, 03:42
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Old 4th May 2008, 09:23
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its funny...whenever I hear English commentators talk about harmi they make it out like he's curtley ambrose having a bad spell..here's newsflash to all ENG cricket fans and their so called experts..harmi is just another one series wonder like cork,lewis,Malcolm and so forth...in other words he's rubbish..always was always will be..
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Old 4th May 2008, 10:19
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Most England fans I know have completely lost patience with him. He's a bad influence on the rest of the team, and unless he does amazing things in county cricket, he shouldn't even be considered. We have to move on.
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Old 4th May 2008, 10:23
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Looks like he's taking the 'Razzaq' attitude to being dropped instead of fighting for his place and proving he deserves it!

I think you probably know that Razzaq stated he quit not because he was dropped .. but because of the disrespectful treatment he was getting from the PCB.

Why you choose to ignore this ...
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Old 4th May 2008, 10:27
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Very poor attitude from Harmison. He had so much potential, but he looks like the sort of guy who is just playing cricket for a living, its not like a passion for him or anything. If his heart isnt in it then he would be better of moving on then.
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Old 4th May 2008, 10:32
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Very poor attitude from Harmison. He had so much potential, but he looks like the sort of guy who is just playing cricket for a living, its not like a passion for him or anything. If his heart isnt in it then he would be better of moving on then.

Agreed. We all got sick of his whingeing about homesickness, etc. He wasn't whingeing when he got his central contract, was he?
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Old 20th December 2008, 11:23
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Seems like he's in hot water again with his attitude "not being right" according to reports from the England camp.

I dont understand why teams opt to select players whose attitude stinks and they dont give 100%.
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Old 20th December 2008, 11:34
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seems like yet another 'homesick' england cricketer.

although the thing is he doesnt even perform consistantly at home now.
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Old 20th December 2008, 12:48
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seems like yet another 'homesick' england cricketer.

although the thing is he doesnt even perform consistantly at home now.
Because England don't play enough tests at Chester le Street.
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Old 20th December 2008, 12:58
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here's newsflash to all ENG cricket fans and their so called experts..harmi is just another one series wonder like cork,lewis,Malcolm and so forth...
All those guys had more than one good series (except Lewis who struggled to have a good test).

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in other words he's rubbish..always was always will be..
Good enough to take 213 test wickets.

They use him wrong. He's not confident enough to be an opening bowler. He should be the stock bowler coming in behind Fred.

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Old 20th December 2008, 13:01
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I actually thought Harmison should've played ahead of Anderson here, the Lancastrian has been pretty poor throughout the whole tour though he bowled quite well in this innings without any reward.
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Old 20th December 2008, 13:05
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Seems like he's in hot water again with his attitude "not being right" according to reports from the England camp.

I dont understand why teams opt to select players whose attitude stinks and they dont give 100%.
Neither do I.

I stand by my comments made back in May when this thread started. He's a bad influence on the rest of the squad. In my opinion he shouldn't have been given a central contract, and should never even be considered to go on another overseas tour. He should be picked for home games only, and even then only if he's doing well in county cricket.
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Old 20th December 2008, 14:02
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Harvey, who would be your attack for WI?

I reckon Fred, Jimmy, Saj, Broady and Swanny. That would give us a bit more pace, lower order batting and good fielding than, say, Fred, Jimmy, Harmi, Broady and Monty.
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Old 20th December 2008, 14:28
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he will be back for next stanford series
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Old 20th December 2008, 14:54
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That's some ball control by Harmison, look at rubbish Pollock he couldnt even spell a single letter.
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Old 20th December 2008, 18:25
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Harvey, who would be your attack for WI?

I reckon Fred, Jimmy, Saj, Broady and Swanny. That would give us a bit more pace, lower order batting and good fielding than, say, Fred, Jimmy, Harmi, Broady and Monty.
Flintoff
Broad
Sidebottom

Plus any two of Anderson, Swann and Panesar. Pitches in the Caribbean aren't like they used to be, and I wouldn't completely rule out using two spinners.

I'm sorry, but I really don't rate Saj Mahmood as being of sufficient quality to ever make it as a Test class bowler.

Unfortunately I'm sure they'll take Harmison and pick him because of what he did in 2004, and because they stupidly gave him a central contract on the basis of one good performance, ignoring how many times he's let us down over the last 2-3 years.
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Old 20th December 2008, 18:28
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I really feel sorry for Agarkar when i see bowlers like Harmison.
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Old 20th December 2008, 18:38
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Old 20th December 2008, 19:26
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His laid back attitude has been his biggest problem. He has lacked character at times as well when the going has got tough. I never ever got the impression he was to serious or ambitious in terms of goals, targets in any case. If you are reluctant to tour outside England then just sit at home mate.
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Old 20th December 2008, 20:24
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Unfortunately I'm sure they'll take Harmison and pick him because of what he did in 2004, and because they stupidly gave him a central contract on the basis of one good performance, ignoring how many times he's let us down over the last 2-3 years.
Sage.
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Old 20th December 2008, 20:51
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england lack world class bowlers that could get u regular fifer in tests, there all honest bowlers who bowl well on helpfull conditions
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Old 20th December 2008, 20:52
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It's like they said on the TV yesterday, England can't live with Harmison and they can't live without him. When Freddie and Harmison were missing from last year's Test matches against India, I think it was Dravid who expressed relief at having to face a less hostile attack. In the right conditions - and I stress the right conditions, Harmison is too good for England to discard. And the right conditions are English wickets with pace. England have a battery of tall 90 mph bowlers that no other country can presently match - why can't we play to our strengths? I'd love to see a real speed war against the Aussies next summer, but it's not going to happen.
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Old 20th December 2008, 21:05
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It's like they said on the TV yesterday, England can't live with Harmison and they can't live without him. When Freddie and Harmison were missing from last year's Test matches against India, I think it was Dravid who expressed relief at having to face a less hostile attack. In the right conditions - and I stress the right conditions, Harmison is too good for England to discard. And the right conditions are English wickets with pace. England have a battery of tall 90 mph bowlers that no other country can presently match - why can't we play to our strengths? I'd love to see a real speed war against the Aussies next summer, but it's not going to happen.
speed war forget it johnson 150k, lee 145-150k, tait 150- 155k, siddle140-145k, aus attack is much quicker
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Old 20th December 2008, 21:09
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Deserves to be dropped. If he's not playing at home on a bouncy wicket he can't be bothered. Came out of retirement for money and now dropped. I love it.
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