look how the Palestinians kids go to school [Images]

[PakPassionate]

[Ghoshtbuster]

Horrible pictures.

But its funny how that Israeli geek in the second picture appears to be sh*tting himself, while armed and facing schoolgirls.

well i assume he is israeli...

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by Ghoshtbuster Horrible pictures. But its funny how that Israeli geek in the second picture appears to be sh*tting himself, while armed and facing schoolgirls. well i assume he is israeli...

he is also probably a part-time soldier - who has to do his time.

dispicable and not surprising.

[Ghoshtbuster]

They force citizens to point guns at schoolgirls?

Thats pretty crazy.

[Saj]

All this and much worse happens on a daily basis. The Jews control what goes in and out of Palestine, the water supplies etc etc - while the rest of the Muslim world does absolutely nothing.

[McBoom]

Biggest daylight robbery in the history of mankind

[Oxy]

Do you blame him? I mean, you never know where the next pebble or coin might be thrown from.

[Ghoshtbuster]

Originally Posted by Oxy Do you blame him? I mean, you never know where the next pebble or coin might be thrown from.

Yes you are right.

It was silly of me to think about it from the innocent schoolgirls' point of view.

He is well with his right to wave it in their faces.

[Asif khan]

Originally Posted by Saj All this and much worse happens on a daily basis. The Jews control what goes in and out of Palestine, the water supplies etc etc - while the rest of the Muslim world does absolutely nothing.

Indeed and this kind of reminds me of a female suicide bomber who left a video prior to detonating. She said life was so unbearable that she couldnt take it anymore.

She felt she was left with no choice because arab men are cowards then went one step further and said muslim men are cowards. Though i dont agree with suicide bombing at all i do understand where shes coming from.

[WasimG]

These innocent soldiers have the right to defend themselves against these terrorist kids.

I met a guy here who recently came to the US from Israel. He says they all have to do 3 years in the forces, NO exceptions. He was a sniper in the Lebanese war. Out of curiosity I asked 'how many did you kill?'. He said he didn't wanna talk about it as humans are humans, even when you kill your enemy you have disturbing nightmares forever.

[Inswinger]

I wonder why we never see these kind of pics on CNN and BBC.
When a "poor and innocent" jew is harmed, its all over the ******* news. Its a shame that the leaders of Islamic nations ae too busy trying to please the darned westerners while the Jews are taking everythimg away from us. Only Iran has shown some ba**s while dealing with the west. Why can't there be a Muslim Union for all Islamic countries? These ******* jews label us as terrorists while refusing to look in the mirror. One day justice will be done. Muslims are responsible for this ourselves. We have to be proactive before the time comes that we have no water, oil and other needs.

[PakPassionate]

Originally Posted by Inswinger I wonder why we never see these kind of pics on CNN and BBC. When a "poor and innocent" jew is harmed, its all over the ******* news. Its a shame that the leaders of Islamic nations ae too busy trying to please the darned westerners while the Jews are taking everythimg away from us. Only Iran has shown some ba**s while dealing with the west. Why can't there be a Muslim Union for all Islamic countries? These ******* jews label us as terrorists while refusing to look in the mirror. One day justice will be done. Muslims are responsible for this ourselves. We have to be proactive before the time comes that we have no water, oil and other needs.

The common misconceptions about Islam arise in the minds of the common non-Muslims, because they are constantly being bombarded with misinformation about Islam. International media is mainly controlled by the western world, whether it is satellite channels, radio stations, magazines or books. Recently the Internet has become a powerful medium of information. Though it is not controlled by anybody, one finds a large amount of virulent propaganda about Islam on the Internet. Of course, Muslims too are utilizing this tool to portray the right image of Islam and Muslims, but we are a bit slow in countering the attack. I hope such efforts will increase and continue to be pursued.

[JustAnotherFan]

Honest question here ... how many of you have ever lived through a terrorist war?

Ever been to through FORCED national service?

Ever had a limpet mine blowup nearby and it could have killed innocent teenagers?

Ever had a friend's parents (pensioners) get shoot to pieces by an attack on a golf club, just because a member of parliament was a member of the wine club having a christmas dinner?

Ever had a friend die doing national service?

Ever seen your father in riot gear and wondering if a sniper could take him out?

I am not racist. I am not anti-jewish. I am not anti-muslim, but there is so much crap on these threads so maybe I should give my view for once.

[Savak]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherFan Honest question here ... how many of you have ever lived through a terrorist war? Ever been to through FORCED national service? Ever had a limpet mine blowup nearby and it could have killed innocent teenagers? Ever had a friend's parents (pensioners) get shoot to pieces by an attack on a golf club, just because a member of parliament was a member of the wine club having a christmas dinner? Ever had a friend die doing national service? Ever seen your father in riot gear and wondering if a sniper could take him out? I am not racist. I am not anti-jewish. I am not anti-muslim, but there is so much crap on these threads so maybe I should give my view for once.

Well we arent Anti Jewish by choice either. We have been forced to become anti Jewish. That map explains how the Jews robbed the Palestinians of their territories over a period of 50 years. But nevertheless the arabs and muslims overall have to be blamed for their predicament. If they arabs just decided to shut down the supply of oil to the west for just a few months i can guarantee you the west including the US would come to the Saudis and say "You are our father and we are your sons, slaves". The arabs and Muslims can do so much more, withdraw all their cash, investments, assets from the West. Boycott of western products. Start developing their own electronic media to counter CNN, BBC, Fox News e.t.c.

We seriously need to learn from the Jews when it comes to lobbying, fund raising, working discreetly, supporting each other for e.g AIPAC (American Israeli Public Affairs Committee) e.t.c.

[Rudi hater]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherFan Honest question here ... how many of you have ever lived through a terrorist war? Ever been to through FORCED national service? Ever had a limpet mine blowup nearby and it could have killed innocent teenagers? Ever had a friend's parents (pensioners) get shoot to pieces by an attack on a golf club, just because a member of parliament was a member of the wine club having a christmas dinner? Ever had a friend die doing national service? Ever seen your father in riot gear and wondering if a sniper could take him out? I am not racist. I am not anti-jewish. I am not anti-muslim, but there is so much crap on these threads so maybe I should give my view for once.

Ever wondered when someoneone leaves home but never returns home only to be found in Israeli prison.

Ever wondered how an Innocent missile from US planes lands on a house where there is an innocent gathering.

Ever wondered when a force occupies your territory and you are seen as potential sucide bomber.

[alexjohn_tcr]

Originally Posted by Savak Well we arent Anti Jewish by choice either. We have been forced to become anti Jewish. That map explains how the Jews robbed the Palestinians of their territories over a period of 50 years. But nevertheless the arabs and muslims overall have to be blamed for their predicament. If they arabs just decided to shut down the supply of oil to the west for just a few months i can guarantee you the west including the US would come to the Saudis and say "You are our father and we are your sons, slaves". The arabs and Muslims can do so much more, withdraw all their cash, investments, assets from the West. Boycott of western products. Start developing their own electronic media to counter CNN, BBC, Fox News e.t.c. We seriously need to learn from the Jews when it comes to lobbying, fund raising, working discreetly, supporting each other for e.g AIPAC (American Israeli Public Affairs Committee) e.t.c.

Why would somebody sitting in Pakistan bother about Jews robbing Plaestine of their territories??Isn't the Israel-Palestine issue a political one and needs to be settled bilaterally?

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by alexjohn_tcr Why would somebody sitting in Pakistan bother about Jews robbing Plaestine of their territories??Isn't the Israel-Palestine issue a political one and needs to be settled bilaterally?

Its what humans do - its terrible what is happening to the Palestinians and sadly we as muslims sit by and do nothing. More so the muslim world needs to unite and use its power to make the situation improve for the Palestinians

You say bilaterally BUT thats why you get the western world pumping money and weapons into Israel? doesnt seem bilaterally to me

If only we had a few more leaders like Ahmedinejad in the muslim world

[Rudi hater]

Originally Posted by alexjohn_tcr Why would somebody sitting in Pakistan bother about Jews robbing Plaestine of their territories??Isn't the Israel-Palestine issue a political one and needs to be settled bilaterally?

Its called concious. Standing up against the wrong doer if you are not bothered then don't say anything who do have little concious. Lucky you are not in a similar situation as those kids in Palestine.

[Rudi hater]

Originally Posted by alexjohn_tcr Why would somebody sitting in Pakistan bother about Jews robbing Plaestine of their territories??Isn't the Israel-Palestine issue a political one and needs to be settled bilaterally?

Further more its not a bilateral issue it has numerous UN resolutions when anything goes to UN it does not remain bilateral. Such as Kashmir, Palestine issues.

[alexjohn_tcr]

Originally Posted by Rudi hater Its called concious. Standing up against the wrong doer if you are not bothered then don't say anything who do. Lucky you are not in a similar situation as those kids in Palestine.

Dude,I am totally against what has shown in those snaps irrespective of whoever does-Whether it is a Palestini or an Israeli.My question was What is the rationale behind people sitting in a distant country supporting Palestine.Or if somebody posts the photo of an Israeli Kid being gunned down by a Palestini,would you react the same way? I raised this question just to understand the point.You would be having your justifications and I am perfectly ok with that

[Rudi hater]

Originally Posted by alexjohn_tcr Dude,I am totally against what has shown in those snaps irrespective of whoever does-Whether it is a Palestini or an Israeli.My question was What is the rationale behind people sitting in a distant country supporting Palestine.Or if somebody posts the photo of an Israeli Kid being gunned down by a Palestini,would you react the same way? I raised this question just to understand the point.You would be having your justifications and I am perfectly ok with that

Listen, any inocent life that goes is not appreciated by any normal human being. Where there is injustice people with little bit of credibilty will re-act. Its not a question of Jews or Christines or Muslims it is a question of injustice and brutality.

[DHONI183]

Feel sad .....

May Allah The Almighty help them .......

[observer1]

I think Death and Casualty Statistics speak for themselves...

You just Need to Compare the Two States in nearly any scenario..

Israel has one of the best economies in the World, Palestine does not even have one..

People live behind Walls in Palestine, While you got Israeli's live in Illegal Settlements.

People, including kids and old people die because they are not allowed to get passed CheckPoints, therefore unable to go to Hospitals.

Even pregnant ladies have to give birth in their houses because they cannot get Passed CheckPoints.

Palestinian Hospitals are a Joke since there are no Supplies.

During the Blockades of Palestine, denying them water, electricity and Fuel, there were reports of Disease Outbreaks since there were virtually no Supplies. That says it all..

IMO, Its wrong for us Muslims to Blame Jews, since alot of Jews have done ALOT For Palestinians more than Muslim's Muslims. But i have to Point out, the Zionist Influenced Government has destroyed Palestine.

Ameen to the Du'as..

[SameerM]

maybe TRAPS can create a discussion thread on his website - increase awareness etc

[observer1]

Gaza students denied by blockade

(Some Quotes)

I regret to inform you that the Bureau of Education and Cultural Affairs of the US Department of State will not be able to finalise your Fulbright Student Scholarship for 2008."

With those words, in a brief letter from the United States Consulate in Jerusalem, the dreams of seven talented and ambitious young people from Gaza were dashed.

Nonetheless, because of the Israeli blockade of Gaza, not even students sponsored by the US government can leave to further their studies overseas.

"If you cannot engage young people and give complete horizon to their expectations and to their dreams, then I don't know that there would be any future for Palestine or, frankly, since I believe the two-state solution is so important to Israelis and Palestinians, to the people of that region who want to have decent lives," Ms Rice added

Wassim Abuajwa, has been trying to take up his environmental studies Masters course at Nottingham University for seven years.

Wassim is now 31. In desperation he has recently written to Tony Blair, now an international envoy to the Middle East, and has appealed to Israel's Supreme Court.

Wassim Abuajwa, has been trying to take up his environmental studies Masters course at Nottingham University for seven years.

Wassim is now 31. In desperation he has recently written to Tony Blair, now an international envoy to the Middle East, and has appealed to Israel's Supreme Court.


Wassim Abuajwa, has been trying to take up his environmental studies Masters course at Nottingham University for seven years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7427983.stm

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Could you Imagine what would happen If ISraeli Students were denied Education Rights by Palestine??

Possibly another Invasion?

[MaVeRiCk]

My fellow PP's, this is the grim reality under the illegal occupation by the zionist apartheid state of Israel. Makes you wonder why Hitler savaged them by their millions in WW2 even though i deeply condemn it.. Like iv said before every israeli citizen is a legitamate target because it is the duty of every israel citizen to serve in the army..

Let the west not fool you by their biased,false propaganda into making you beleive that Hamas and other freedom fighting organisations are "terrorists". Surely one has the common sense to understand that this is false. The plight of the palestinian people must go on, against relentless tyranny, oppression, discrimination and injustice...

Hamas offered a truce but they refused, the Zionist state does not want dialogue they want rockets fired into their state so that it provides a legitamate excuse for the collective punishement of the palestinian people...

Always remember there shall be no piece with the jews,there shall come a day when the trees will will speak out against them..

RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE

[PlanetPakistan]

Disclaimer:Some horrible pictures

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU

[switchblade]

Question: If Palestinians were Hindus, would pakistanis still support their plight ?

I guess every one knows the answer to that question

But not just Pakstanis, when was the last time any muslim nation showed compassionate understanding to the suffering of non-muslims that they now expect non-muslims to side with them ? I mean, why shuld any1 care about fighting injustice when u r soooo parochial and self-centered ?

Honestly, people r just tired of this constant reference of hurt and extreme passion that muslims associate with Palestine, who are not racially related to most muslims, while they themselves remain mum on genocides in TIbet, Sudan and other parts of the world.. just coz there r non-muslims who r the victims... u just dont care about the 1 million+ tibetans murdered by Chinese (friendly nation) and 100K+ people murdered in Sudan (by arab militias).

If Dalai Lama had sought refuge in Pakistan, I doubt Pakistanis would provide him refuge and insteas promptly hand him over to the Chinese to get tortured and murdered... OTOH, if Dalai Lama were a muslim, then they wuld support him of course

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by switchblade Question: If Palestinians were Hindus, would pakistanis still support their plight ? I guess every one knows the answer to that question But not just Pakstanis, when was the last time any muslim nation showed compassionate understanding to the suffering of non-muslims that they now expect non-muslims to side with them ? I mean, why shuld any1 care about fighting injustice when u r soooo parochial and self-centered ?

No!
The non-muslim countries don't have to fully support the Muslims and listen to each and there is something called being neutral and be slightly objective for a change? Here i am specifically talking about the US of A who have given all kind of weapons to Israel and have supported every action by Israel. Why is America doing all of this? Is it simply because Israel is the only democracy in the middle east and the US sees Israel as the main source to leave its dirty footprints on the entire of Middle East?? I tend to think so.

Originally Posted by switchblade Honestly, people r just tired of this constant reference of hurt and extreme passion that muslims associate with Palestine, who are not racially related to most muslims, while they themselves remain mum on genocides in TIbet, Sudan and other parts of the world.. just coz there r non-muslims who r the victims... u just dont care about the 1 million+ tibetans murdered by Chinese (friendly nation) and 100K+ people murdered in Sudan (by arab militias).

What have these "tired people" done to fix the problem for the last 60 years? give out more bombs to Isreal and authorize each of their action? The foreign aid which Israel has received for the past 60 years is the main reason why this situation has gone from bad to worse.

Even the former president of the US(Jimmy carter) has repeatedly said that Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is the worst case of Human right's violation YET the US is dishing out weapons to Isreal as if they were distributing Halloween candy!

[Rudi hater]

Originally Posted by switchblade Question: If Palestinians were Hindus, would pakistanis still support their plight ? I guess every one knows the answer to that question But not just Pakstanis, when was the last time any muslim nation showed compassionate understanding to the suffering of non-muslims that they now expect non-muslims to side with them ? I mean, why shuld any1 care about fighting injustice when u r soooo parochial and self-centered ? Honestly, people r just tired of this constant reference of hurt and extreme passion that muslims associate with Palestine, who are not racially related to most muslims, while they themselves remain mum on genocides in TIbet, Sudan and other parts of the world.. just coz there r non-muslims who r the victims... u just dont care about the 1 million+ tibetans murdered by Chinese (friendly nation) and 100K+ people murdered in Sudan (by arab militias). If Dalai Lama had sought refuge in Pakistan, I doubt Pakistanis would provide him refuge and insteas promptly hand him over to the Chinese to get tortured and murdered... OTOH, if Dalai Lama were a muslim, then they wuld support him of course

This post warrant no response coz its alot of nonsense.

[Indiagem]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan No! The non-muslim countries don't have to fully support the Muslims and listen to each and there is something called being neutral and be slightly objective for a change? Here i am specifically talking about the US of A who have given all kind of weapons to Israel and have supported every action by Israel. Why is America doing all of this? Is it simply because Israel is the only democracy in the middle east and the US sees Israel as the main source to leave its dirty footprints on the entire of Middle East?? I tend to think so. What have these "tired people" done to fix the problem for the last 60 years? give out more bombs to Isreal and authorize each of their action? The foreign aid which Israel has received for the past 60 years is the main reason why this situation has gone from bad to worse. Even the former president of the US(Jimmy carter) has repeatedly said that Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is the worst case of Human right's violation YET the US is dishing out weapons to Isreal as if they were distributing Halloween candy!

As Switchblade correctly pointed, what about the plight of tibetians, kurds, sudan genocides etc?

Why there is silence from the Muslim world (and ppers) for all the attrocities commited towards them?

[Ghoshtbuster]

Originally Posted by Indiagem As Switchblade correctly pointed, what about the plight of tibetians, kurds, sudan genocides etc?

The situation in Palestine is beyond comparison, due to the history of the conflict.

Why there is silence from the Muslim world (and ppers) for all the attrocities commited towards them?

Is there?

[SameerM]

JUST look at the map of Israel and look at how its been taken OVER.

How can ANYONE defend the jewish cause, if they have taken the whole country in 50 odd years?

This shows, u need to know people in HIGH places to get what you want.

AND slowly but surely, USA isssss killing and highlighting the important people, by making them look like criminals .. ie china's government at the moment w/regs Tibet... Saddam Hussein, and even Burma, when it did not want USA help, so lets make ALL burmans look silly and backwards in the media!!

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by Indiagem As Switchblade correctly pointed, what about the plight of tibetians, kurds, sudan genocides etc? Why there is silence from the Muslim world (and ppers) for all the attrocities commited towards them?

I think you missed my point

There is a HUGE difference between silence(which is wrong too) and an all out foreign support where Israel is provided with all kinds of weapons which they later use to kill innocent civilians.

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by SameerM JUST look at the map of Israel and look at how its been taken OVER. How can ANYONE defend the jewish cause, if they have taken the whole country in 50 odd years? This shows, u need to know people in HIGH places to get what you want. AND slowly but surely, USA isssss killing and highlighting the important people, by making them look like criminals .. ie china's government at the moment w/regs Tibet... Saddam Hussein, and even Burma, when it did not want USA help, so lets make ALL burmans look silly and backwards in the media!!

I think its a touch unfair to paint all the Jews with the same brush. Its the Zionist regime that needs a change.

[observer1]

Originally Posted by Ghoshtbuster Why there is silence from the Muslim world (and ppers) for all the attrocities commited towards them? Is there?

According to Fox News and WWW.Anti-Islam.Com/Oh_noooo

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Planet Pakistan is Right, this is not because of the "Jews".

It's a Zionist problem.

A lot of Jews have done a lot for Palestine, a lot more than many Muslims in Fact.

A lot of Jews and Rabbi's have themselves been persecuted for Criticizing the Zionist Government in Israel