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Afridi likely to get the boot for India tie
Link: http://www.cricketnext.com/news/afri.../32480-13.html
Karachi: Pakistan's star all-rounder Shahid Afridi is set to be dropped against their match against India on Wednesday, it is learnt here. According to highly placed sources close to the team management, two players — Afridi and Wahab Riaz — did not impress the selectors with their performance are likely to be dropped. Afridi was out for a duck and could not capture a single wicket in his full quota of ten overs. Wahab Riaz, who celebrated his 24th birthday last Saturday could not penetrate into Sri Lanka's depth of batting and capture only one wicket. Riaz's place may be taken over by Abdul Rauf who replaced Umar Gul due to rib injury. The selectors are also toying with the idea of asking Shoaib Malik to come lower down in the batting order, even though he scored a century against India as an opener. He is likely to come in at No. 6 and young left-handed opener Nasir Jamshed may open with Salman Butt. The Pakistan skipper was rushed to the hospital on the eve of the crucial match against Sri Lanka on Sunday. He was dehyderated for the second consecutive day and was able to play in the match at the last moment only. |
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Riaz needs to be given more time than to be dropped after one bad game. He's a young bowler with potential and will come good. |
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He is a mediocre bowler after he slowed down. |
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However, don't agree with Riaz as he is new and this will only dent his condidence. I don't think Pak is going to loose anything more by playing him. The replacement is also a newcomer. So better continue with Riaz for the entire series. |
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Terrible news.
One off-match for his bowling and he's dropped? (and even that wasn't really off - had one of our best economy rates - everyone got tanked in that match except tanvir). It's no more than the usual treatment for Afridi - they select and drop him like a yo-yo. |
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Wahab bowled way better than Rao. Agree he was slow but bowled better after his first over of 11 runs. His last 8 overs went for 41 with isn't bad on a flat pitch bowling to a settled Sangakarra
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Afridi's failure with the bat doesn't bother me, his approach while batting does. Any player no, matter how good they are, needs to be booted out if he can't play accordingly how the team wants him to. It's not some sort of galli match where a player can do whatever he feels like and get away with it. Even a youngster is supposed to play accordingly how the team management wants him to. Afridi even after playing International cricket for over a decade, plays as if it's some sort of a video game match and not International cricket.
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Stop changing the team. Pick the best 11 players available and back them.
It's no wonder players from Pakistan are regularly criticised for playing for themselves, one bad game and they get dropped. Does any other team in world change the team every single game like Pakistan at the moment? |
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Any decent spinner will give you that economy without wicket and will also be able to make some runs. he is not able to give you wickets in this flat pitches, economy is 5+ I guess and zero batting. Whats harm in trying someone else? May be he can come in when the pitch is helpful and you can ignore his batting completely. Last edited by Garuda; 1st July 2008 at 08:53. |
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My problem with him is why doesn't he realize that he's lucky to be able to represent his country, lucky to be selected among the top 11 players of a country, but instead he wastes his batting prowess as if it's his god given right to do so. |
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[QUOTE=cars112]Nope - how can there be when there is only one better spinner in the whole world (Vettori)? Check out the rankings:
http://www.iccreliancerankings.com/o...g/rankings.php I got your point. I repeat the question.Isn't there a better spinner in the whole of Pakistan? Forget rankings. |
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I am not sure if he will be dropped or not. I hope he will be out of the team as he has no business in the starting XI. Selectors could have done this immedately after the IPL. Anyway, the realized there is no point of giving Afridi more chances. He better go do the domestic circuit and get his form back.
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Cars112=> Please stop all your bragging about Afridi. We all know what kinda player he is and you dont have to justify his presence in the team. The chap can not even touch the ball. His bowling is becoming more ordinary by the day and I think selectors have finally realized what a blunder they have committed by keeping this guy in the team. He is not helping the captain nor his team mates. Someone else should be given a chance. If he is that important I am sure selectors will give him a chance.
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dropping wahab? greattt!!..so we have to put up with more leg side trundler deliveries from rao..what do they see in this guy? another 250 run battering coming up!!
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Trouble is we don't have anyone replace him who can turn the match on its head on his day (that happens once in a blue moon). I would have given him the last opportunity at the top order ( at the end of the day we are not going to be featuring in the final) and go for his shots if it comes off fine if not so be it.
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I have a simple question.
Why do you want to play a spinner against India? Especially someone of Afridi's class who isn't even a threat to the batting? |
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I donno how many of 33 scores above 50 came in last 2-3 years. Before Asia cup I had pulled this data Score Number of times Percent 0 21 9.21% 0 to 10 71 31.14% 11 to 20 50 21.93% 20 to 30 29 12.72% 30 - 40 19 8.33% 40 to 50 10 4.39% 50 - 60 10 4.39% 60 to 70 10 4.39% 70 to 80 3 1.32% 80 to 90 2 0.88% 90 to 100 0 0.00% 100+ 3 1.32% So if you go by stats then his scores above 50 are only 12%. Also you should consider atleast last 1 year performance when you are going for very important matches. What is the chance that he will surprise you in next match and pull a great innings. Don't reply as afridi fan but as cricket fan. |
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Not related to the topic, but I was just wondering when the last time Afridi was clean bowled?
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Sure, Wahab seems to be a good prospect, but as i said earlier, he keeps bowling these short &wide deliveries more than once in an over.
And he always gets punished for 4. As long as he is bowling these deliveries, he doesnt deserve to play for PAK. This is something that can be sorted out without playing in the final XI.... |
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However, my point is he doesn't look harmful in karachi pitches. So it is no harm to try someone else for this series atleast as Pak team is not going to loose anything more. But if the replacement works then it may be beneficial for the team. I am just looking at the next two matches now. |
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I hope Afridi gets rested for the remaining games so his wrist can heal in time for the Champions Trophy, we only have two games remaining in the Asia Cup. We can beat BD without him and against India he's taken 35 wickets in 60 games at an average of 56.48 and an Eco of 5.1.
In his last 5 games v India he's taken 5 wkts at an average of 59.20 and an Eco of 6.4, Afridi is a liability against India and we dont need him against BD. The best thing for both Pakistan and Afridi is to rest him and allow his wrist to heal because we need a fully fit Afridi for the Champions Trophy. |
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Right move...but i don't think Pak have anybody to replace him.Its important to send the message across nevertheless..can't take things for granted at this level.
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Afridi needs to wake up and start realising that he's an all rounder..
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Amazing that Riaz may get dropped and Rao remains untouchable.
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Dont necessarily agree with dropping Wahab. The Asia cup is long gone, we dont have decent replacements anyway so its best to give him the experience, he will only learn the more he plays. Why havent the selectors introduced more speed in the attack? Arent their any express fast bowlers out in domestic cricket at the moment?
But i agree with dropping Afridi. The guy is under too much pressure now whenever he comes to bat. The ideal slot for him is the opening position or atmost he should bat up the order during the powerplays but he needs to be dropped and rested from the team right now. He needs to go back to domestic cricket and get himself into form with the bat. And maybe he needs to start focusing on his batting again. |
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So what Rao will stay?
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I think it's about time Afridi was dropped. Ok, he is one of my favorite players, but never the less, it's unfair he plays whereas others don't.
His bowling may be good, but not good enough to warrant a place in the team. You may as well call back Saqlain Mushtaq or Kaneria, at least they can get a few wickets and get a good ECO. Even then, the would probably make more runs than Afridi has done in the whole series. I say let Afridi have time off from Intl Cricket. Whether he plays poor or fantastic at domestic level, don't let him in the team for about 4-6 months. Then when he comes back... he will be Hungry.. |
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If Afridi does get selected, and he DOESNT open the batting, I say we go on an all round rampage involving a grass eating mammal.
Seriously, he's doing zilch down the order, at least give him one shot up the order.
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Lol hahahahahah.. i pray it happens for good. this guy is an absolute joke.. his batting had seriously disintegrated.. hang on when was it really there
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I wonder where is afridi's brain
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Afridi still deserves to play as a bowler!
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I think the sad reality might be that age is catching up on Afridi and he has lost his hand-eye co-ordination and on top of that he has lost his confidence or the aura of destroying even a good bowling attacks when on his day.
Other players can remodel their game so they they don't feel the affect too much of a loss in reflexes, but if you are completely unorthodox in your approach you have very little to fall back on (reminds me of Prince Naseem in boxing)
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He can play if he files a petition by 11 pm tonight.
The thing is someone posts that Afridi cannot be the main spinner against India going by performances but he performs then you will get ridiculed as the performance will live for a month But Afridi has been doing bad bowling to India so it is understandable. But as much as people like to think that he is a bowler, he is in as an all-rounder. But I don't think Paksitan team has no other spinner except Mansoor. So they probably both will play unless it is 4 pacers Tanvir, Rao, Wahab, Rauf which looks unlikey as batting suffers. and Malik could also be out or only half fit this can lead to Mansoor, Sarfaraz, Tanvir, Rao, Wahab, Rauf as tail (#6-7 as very new) and no Malik. Can Afridi sit out, I don't think so :akmal Last edited by 12thMan; 1st July 2008 at 15:04. |
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Amazing stuff!
Like a lot of people said they aren't happy with Wahab's performance yet Rao was ok? |
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This is what happens when they speak of booting Afridi, aka The Beast. At least what happened to my browser when I clicked the link the first two times.
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If Afridi is going to be dropped than who will replace him??? As it is we dont have enough bowlers...... and if Afridi is dropped than who is going to bowl those 10 overs?? Strange.....
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Asia Cup: Pakistan squad for match against India named
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At least we can utilize his batting, MAYBE.
But the only way Malik was looking good when batting was when opening. Mixed feelings here.
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2 changes for tomm according to GEO,
Rauf coming in for wahab Ajmal getting in for Mansoor amjad Afridi might open as well |
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Plus if they play RP sing, Afridi is going to be out in the fist over. Actually any left armer. |
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Afridi will DEFINATELY play tomorrow against India but it will be his LAST CHANCE.
Also Saeed Ajmal will play in place of Mansoor...........why? They guy did well against Sri Lanka, can bat a bit but instead we are introducing an off-spinner against the Indian batsmen? The only good thing i can see from Saeed bhai is that he probably hasn't any coverage for the Indians to have a look at so he may turn out to be a surprise...
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I don't think there has ever been more pressure on Afridi before to perform. People doubting his hitting ability, lack of form, poor bowling performances against India, last chance from selectors, phew ... thats some pressure.
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Afridi Opener PLEASEEEEEEEE
Am sure a thread similer to this one must have been done if so Please Mods move it
Anyways My case is that Afridi should open if not then please send him last after all the bowlers cus his not doing anything at number 6 I no I no he might not do anything as the opener but atleast what if ? he can make quick 20 - 30 runs that puts Pressure on the bowlers all I say if he goes out on a duck even on 1 run leave this man the opener
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Team announced for IND ODI
I heard this on ARY NEWS that there will be two changes:
Ajmal (the offspiner) for Mansoor Amjad and Rauf comes in for Wahab Malik plays and sadly Rao is retained. With this team of 5 specialist bowlers, I doubt we can reach 300 unless we get a really good start. |
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Pathetic team.
Rao still playing, and Wahab dropped. I hope its wrong.
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Its sad to say, but our best chance of beating India is by having Afridi open and hit a quickfire 50 odd. I think if anything lately he's being a bit overcautious which is against his natural instinct. He needs to just go out and play his shots and use the powerplays to get some rhythm back. Its nice to keep wickets in hand and hit out in the last 20 overs, but that strategy will not always work. With our weekened batting lineup we really need our so-called allrounders like Afridi and Malik to make some good contributions.
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