why is telegraph allowed to publish such anti-islamic articles

[bablu_khan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-of-Islam.html

this is total trash article and most of the stuff written there is trash.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by bablu_khan http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-of-Islam.html this is total trash article and most of the stuff written there is trash.

can you point out the trash or anti-islamic part in there? I glanced through about about half the article which mistly dealt with surveys.

BTW: there is apostasy and blasphemy law that will come under this. Some might be covered by Sharia and some in Pakistan. There are threads about the two here. I am not an Islamic student but that is what I see in the article. If the laws are wrong then take them out or if you don't approve then say no to the poll question and if you approve say yes. Sometimes poll questions are designed certain ways

[switchblade]

I think they could change the title as it gives the impression that "all muslim students" support killing in the name of Islam, while the article itself states that only 33% believe so.

Its astonishing though that so many young, literate people still think along the lines of Talibaan and other cultural retards.

[161]

the title is misleading but the remainder of the article is just stating study data.

and the poll results pretty much go along with the impressions i get from some british pak posters on this site

my question is why .. or how .. have so many british paks become so hardcore ?

[Boys_played_well]

Originally Posted by kashif77 the title is misleading but the remainder of the article is just stating study data. and the poll results pretty much go along with the impressions i get from some british pak posters on this site my question is why .. or how .. have so many british paks become so hardcore ?

I wonder the same. This is not the case in the US and Canada...

[Garuda]

Originally Posted by kashif77 the title is misleading but the remainder of the article is just stating study data. and the poll results pretty much go along with the impressions i get from some british pak posters on this site my question is why .. or how .. have so many british paks become so hardcore ?

I will agree with you Kashif too. I have lived in both US and UK before but now a days I keep visiting there for short trip due to work.

Last time when I was in London, I found my old clean shaved friend (indian muslim) with full grown beard (not saying he is into extreme beacause of his beard). He has been following his religion to maximum. Not that anything wrong with that but it was surprise to see so much change in a year.

On the other hand, my close friend in US (Pakistani), he is very much liberal. It was during the time when few muslims were asked to get out of the plane after they started praying inside the plane. Even though, I was feeling bad for the guys, my friend was in the opinion that they should not have prayed inside the plane as it will scare ppl due to the current situation world wide.

Nothing to generalize here but it was my experience.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by kashif77 the title is misleading but the remainder of the article is just stating study data. and the poll results pretty much go along with the impressions i get from some british pak posters on this site my question is why .. or how .. have so many british paks become so hardcore ?

The conclusions of the study aren't as different as some of the opinions on these threads:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ad.php?t=59719

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ight=blasphemy

[the SHA]

I wouldn't trust much from the so called 'Centre for Social Cohesion' group, an appallingly inaccurate name for a 'think tank' that has a rather clear Neo-conservative and Anti-Muslim agenda.

An interesting expose of this lot:

Centre for Social Cohesion

This is an extended version of my article which appeared in yesterday's Sunday Herald.

We officially launched the Scottish-Islamic Foundation this week, with warm words of encouragement and congratulation from three of the country’s four main party leaders and the head of the Catholic Church for what may well be the most innovative, ambitious and forward-looking programme ever laid out by a Scottish Muslim organisation.

At the same time, we were baffled by a briefing put out by the gloriously named ‘Centre for Social Cohesion’ warning people against us. They don’t have as wide a remit as their name suggests, a quick scan of their website shows almost everything is on the topic of Islam and Muslims, and very few escape their wrath.

Their “research” was in reality nothing more than a quick Google job, and a negatively screened one at that. The tactic of these kind of hatchet jobs which emanate from London is to smear by association. Attaching Muslims with someone controversial is like the “six steps to Kevin Bacon” test. It’s a modern day McCarthyism.

We could disavow the A-Z of Muslim groups that are blacklisted, and one or two groups in London have gained celebrity criticising other Muslims on the drop of a hat in a game that never ends. They as a result have no friends, while we’re committed to working with our community in improving things wherever necessary. If there’s criminality involved, then let the police deal with it, but there’s not a hint of that.

We’re a new body with no links to anyone outside of Scotland. Amongst our objectives are the furtherance of human rights and freedom at home and in the Muslim world. These right-wing bodies though say we’re lying about this, that we hate democracy. Some even say this lying is part of our faith, which really is the language of Islamophobia. It’s impossible to win against such a gutter argument.

They say we’re promoting a form of Islam that separates Muslims from wider society, but then they rail against the political connections we have and the influence we apparently wield. Which is it? Melanie Phillips laughably wrote about “Omar Saeed” (sic) mounting an Islamist takeover and setting up a “Caledonian Caliphate” on England’s borders. This conspiratorial nonsense is very reminiscent of how Jewish people have in years gone by been demonised, you could call it the “Protocols of the Elders of Caledonistan”.

Let me finish by briefly furnishing you with my own research on CSC. They have a neocon agenda, and their director Douglas Murray indeed wrote a book entitled ‘Neoconservatism: Why We Need It’. He told the Pim Fortuyn Memorial Conference in 2006: “Conditions for Muslims in Europe must be made harder across the board”. Fortuyn was famous for saying Islam was "a backward culture" and that he was “in favour of a cold war with Islam”. Social cohesion indeed.

The CSC shares a building with Policy Exchange, another rightwing “stinktank’. Last year, PE were subject of a Newsnight investigation which claimed to have uncovered damning evidence that they had forged receipts of extremist literature they said they purchased from Britain’s mosques. Its head Dean Godson said he would sue the BBC. We are all still waiting. The dodgy report’s author, Denis McEoin, sits on the CSC’s board.

And the media outlets that carried this shower’s internet activities are now linked in with all this themselves.

Link - http://www.osamasaeed.org/osama/2008...sion.html#more


It is quite simply astonishing at times the lengths so-perceived reputable organisations will go to in order to slander and seed hatred towards Muslims and their religion! In the words of journalist Peter Oborne, if you were to replace the word 'Muslim' with any other ethnic/religious group the material would be considered vile and racist.