Obama 'picks pro Zionist Biden as VP'

[Informer]

Quotes from Biden

The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." (October 5, 2007)

"Israel cannot be expected to negotiate with a party that calls for its destruction, engages in terrorism and maintains an armed militia. Hamas must be treated like our enemy(January 2007)

"Because of our lack of a prevention strategy, we're left with no option here, in my view, but to support Israel in what is a totally legitimate self-defense effort." (Washington, July 16, 2007)

"Iran is the biggest threat to Israel and the rest of the world. Iran's nuclear reactors must be destroyed to save the world

It seems like Obama and his racist cronies may be worst than Bush's neocon Christian zealots

[MaVeRiCk]

no matter who comes into power,al muslims should know or be aware that the world will gradually descend into more and more anarchy. Wars,death and natural disasters are set to continue thats a fact according to the Quran and numerous hadiths..

[161]

Joe Biden also proposed a $1.5 Billion per year 10 year package of socioeconomic aid for Pakistan (as apposed to Bush who has only given military aid).

If he does the above .. then frankly I don't give a damn about his Israel views (and it 's not like any other politician in America isn't Pro-Israeli).

[Informer]

Biden is a self confessed Zionist.

Biden says he will bomb Iran

The Obama regime with Biden calling the shots may be worse than the Bush admistration with Dick Cheney

The proposed $1.5 billion package to Pakistan will be nothing for than a payment for 'services rendered'

[161]

Originally Posted by Informer The Obama regime with Biden calling the shots may be worse than the Bush admistration with Dick Cheney The proposed $1.5 billion package to Pakistan will be nothing for than a payment for 'services rendered'

Biden calling the shots - how do u go off saying that ?

Obama ain't a pushover and he is going to be far more balanced in the mid-east than any neocon will be.

BTW it isn't $1.5 billion it's $15 Billion in socioeconomic aid that Biden wants to give Pakistan over 10 years.

[Wazeeri]

I think as long as Pakistan doesn't concede to demands of help in anymore USA misadventures, Pakistan should have no issues with Biden.

These guys also seem more likely to pull out of Afghanistan which is what is best for Pakistan in the long run.

[Wazeeri]

BTW does anyone know if he is the same Biden who helped place sanctions on Pakistan in the first place which ruined our economy in the 90s?

I remember he was upset with Zia for lying about the nuclear weapons.

Or maybe he is Biden jr.

[Oxy]

BinLaden

[PlanetPakistan]

Very disappointed by Obama's behavior,he has turned in to a power hungry hypocrite.

[alybaba]

I could care less about his stance on Israel, no mainstream American politician would be so politically obtuse to turn on their biggest ally in the Middle East. Frankly, there is a lot more going on this world than the Israel-Palestine conflict, and neither side has ever been willing to take the steps necessary for a peaceful resolution and hence neither are as deserving of sympathy as they used to be..

However, he has been someone in Washington who actually lobbies for Pakistan in the Senate (Musharraf and Bhutto would call him before calling Bush), a backer of increased aid, while at the same time, also well-liked by Indians because of being a pusher of the India-US Nuclear deal. At the same time Obama is someone who has actually been to Pakistan on his own accord (in the 80s), so we have both who have familiarity with Pakistan and thats the most you can really ask for from a US Presidential ticket.

[lahori]

Originally Posted by Oxy BinLaden

Obama Biden

..it's sounds uncomfortably similar to Osama BinLaden

[tmac4real]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan Very disappointed by Obama's behavior,he has turned in to a power hungry hypocrite.

so does this change who u vote for? and why do you think he's a power hungry hypocrite?

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by tmac4real so does this change who u vote for? and why do you think he's a power hungry hypocrite?

only a few years ago this guy use to talk about the human rights violations by the Israelis and now in an attempt to win these elections he has made this massive U turn.

[tmac4real]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan only a few years ago this guy use to talk about the human rights violations by the Israelis and now in an attempt to win these elections he has made this massive U turn.

err does this change ur vote? Obama could have really strengthened his campaign by naming Hilary VP. He would have got ALOT of hilary supporters with him. Now a lot of people said Obama lost the election with this selection.

It'll be interesting to see who McCain selects, probably Romney, but ppl are still hoping for a miracle and for him to select Ron Paul.

Probably won't happen, and even if it does I doubt it makes any difference, because VP position useless if ur President doesn't like what you gotta say nothign is going to get done.

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by tmac4real err does this change ur vote? Obama could have really strengthened his campaign by naming Hilary VP. He would have got ALOT of hilary supporters with him. Now a lot of people said Obama lost the election with this selection. It'll be interesting to see who McCain selects, probably Romney, but ppl are still hoping for a miracle and for him to select Ron Paul. Probably won't happen, and even if it does I doubt it makes any difference, because VP position useless if ur President doesn't like what you gotta say nothign is going to get done.

He wants the Jewish voters on his side because even after all those "Israel is our great friend" speeches the Jewish voters were still NOT 100% sure which side Obama was on.

i will ban myself from PP for a month if McCain chooses Paul

[tmac4real]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan He wants the Jewish voters on his side because even after all those "Israel is our great friend" speeches the Jewish voters were still NOT 100% sure which side Obama was on. i will ban myself from PP for a month if McCain chooses Paul

why because u dont think it will happen or u don't like Paul?

Who cares, Hilary voters > Jewish voters. It was a puzzling move.

[Momo]

Originally Posted by Wazeeri BTW does anyone know if he is the same Biden who helped place sanctions on Pakistan in the first place which ruined our economy in the 90s? I remember he was upset with Zia for lying about the nuclear weapons. Or maybe he is Biden jr.

He is the same Biden. He is 65 and he is a senator since he was 29 years old.

Yes, he has always taken great "interest" in Pakistan.

[Wazeeri]

29 years old??
Either he is very intelligent or very well connected.

Whatever the case more bheek for Pakistan.

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by tmac4real why because u dont think it will happen or u don't like Paul? Who cares, Hilary voters > Jewish voters. It was a puzzling move.

errr...Paul is brilliant. Its impossible to dislike him

[Oxy]

All McCain needs to do is select a good-looking, young black man as his VP!!!

This is pure politics....Republicans have criticised Obama's lack of experience in certain areas - this guy fills the gaps that Obama's CV lacks.

Basically, do 'whatever it takes to get elected' - get someone who might be in tune with Jews....positive on Israel...pro-Iraq war...in fact he was one of the key forces in pushing for the sustained aggression on Iraq!

[ali110]

Wait till you see Sen. Joe Lieberman (the Ultimate Zionist) on McCain's ticket as either V.P. or Sec. Of State or Defence.
I would prefer Biden as Democrats are more more willing to restrain themselves on attacking foriegn lands.
Regarding US policy towards Israel, don't expect too much radical changes in near future.

[Lopez]

Personally I dont think it matters at all if he is pro-Zionist. I care about the welfare of Pakistan much more than I care about Arabs and Palestinians.
United States is a great country and we should forge closer ties with them.
We should also trade and become friendly to Israel, they have never done anything wrong to Pakistan.

[Blistering Barnacle]

Biden is a great choice.

Extremely knowledgeable about foreign affairs. Very balanced when it comes to Pakistan - promotes democracy and rule of law and supports substantial increase in non-military aid, seems to recognize that economic aid and development is the answer.

I was impressed with Biden as a presidential candidate. Obama has made the right choice.

As for his views on Israel, our people's priorities should lie with with his views on Pakistan, and he has always been a friend of the Pakistani people (not dictators).

Besides, no one gets elected in America without pandering to the extremely powerful jewish lobby groups. Once he gets in office, it might be a diff story.

[OZGOD]

Why all the Biden hate?

[Informer]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Why all the Biden hate?

Because Biden openly supports apartheid Israel !

Biden hates the democratically elected Hamas government!

Biden says he will bomb Iran.

Apartheid, Nazism and Zionism are 3 names for the same ideology.


You cannot support one and condemn another

[Vegitto1]

Originally Posted by Informer Because Biden openly supports apartheid Israel ! Biden hates the democratically elected Hamas government! Biden says he will bomb Iran. Apartheid, Nazism and Zionism are 3 names for the same ideology. You cannot support one and condemn another

And that is why you are not in politics my friend.

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Informer Because Biden openly supports apartheid Israel ! Biden hates the democratically elected Hamas government! Biden says he will bomb Iran. Apartheid, Nazism and Zionism are 3 names for the same ideology. You cannot support one and condemn another

And he supported and pro-actively pushed for the War on Iraq...

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Oxy And he supported and pro-actively pushed for the War on Iraq...

well said mate

[pear]

There's not a single politician in the US who would openly criticise Israel. It's just a fact of life for anyone trying to get votes, like no UK political party would ever suggest scrapping the NHS, it's one of the untouchable issues

Whether it's real or not - all presidential hopefuls are being judged as potential 'war leaders' due to the 'war on terror' It's a nasty trap that republican fear mongers have been very successful at exploiting, hence Democrats having to be seen to be willing to take 'strong, decisive action against evil, wherever it lies' yadda yadda etc etc. You'll see lots of 'Obama isn't a war leader' 'Not ready to be commander in chief' rubbish soon