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Old 6th June 2005, 17:44
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Is 280 runs enough?

1) w.i 317/2 (317) - 4th Test v WI in WI 1957/58 at Georgetown

2) w.i 268/8 (266) 3rd Test v WI in WI 1987/88 at Bridgetown

3) w.i 206/4 (205) 2nd Test v WI in WI 1976/77 at Port of Spain

4) w.i 216/9 (216) 3rd Test v WI in WI 1999/00 at St John's

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pakistan at the moment inbetween the top 2 totals....
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:50
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well what is the average 4th innings score on this wicket ??? that is more important
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:52
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highest score on ground chased was 212

by west indies v sri lanka

212/3 a couple years ago....
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:53
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loss of just 3 wickets that means wicket is still good for batting
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:56
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what you guys think 280 isnt a great total !!!!
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:56
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It all depends on the start if we start well we should win tbis game pretty easily with your limited bowling attack
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:57
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:57
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not the total that I would have expected. We are about 50-70 short, I feel.
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:58
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well we are limited as a case of injuries etc but your bowling is limited anyway yet you bowled us out maybe we can do the same ! ! !
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Old 6th June 2005, 17:59
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Yes ..WI should win easily ...Pakistan don't deserve to win ... Infact we should really have 5 match series with Bangladesh and Zimbawe ..just to get a feeling what winning a series feels like ..
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:00
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yea short i think but the pakistani bowlers have to fire!!!
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:02
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highest score on ground chased was 212

Amjid says

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highest score on ground chased was 212
But that was on the fith day. It's the 4th day oday and the wicket is playing easy as Afridi and Inzi have shown

Gayle and Lara and the key wickets

I think that the windies will win this game. They have 5 sessions to score a paltry 280 against a mediocre Pakistani attack
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:02
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one bad series and the anti-pak moaners come out.

280 is too short, but we must support our boyz, i ma confident we will put up a fight. We just need razzaq to strike, hopefully rana will be back to his old self and terrorize the batsmen and when shabbir does click he is devestating, then we have the spin wizard kaneria and the formidable back-up of afridi and malik. So we have a chance, lets just hope and pray.
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:02
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inshallah some how are POP-GUN attack will fire...

i hope rana bowls sumat decent rather than 3/4 boundary balls every over...
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:03
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this sounds good
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:04
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i dont think we have a good enough score to defend... our bowlers have to bowl really well and we have to take any chances given by Lara
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:09
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agree with hashim, lets back the boys
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:14
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I believe it's a good total for Pakistan. With good bowling and fielding they will make it difficult for the Windies. You guys must also remember that Lara is not usually as good in his second innings as he is in his first.
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:21
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Yes it is a good total but not a good bowling attack...
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:25
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west indies batting ave 2nd inns

smith 20.66
gayle 35.02
sarwan 39.21
lara 38.92
chanderpaul 37.24
hinds 23.18
browne 22.00
collymore 7.14
best 3.40
king 3.14
powell 3.25

total = 233.16 (so pakistan shud won by 47 runs )
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:27
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west indies batting ave 2nd inns

smith 20.66
gayle 35.02
sarwan 39.21
lara 38.92
chanderpaul 37.24
hinds 23.18
browne 22.00
collymore 7.14
best 3.40
king 3.14
powell 3.25

total = 233.16 (so pakistan shud won by 47 runs )
Thanks for the stats! Now I'm depressed! (
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:27
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nicely calculated..lets hope it happens that way...
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:28
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West Indies should win with ease, our bowlers don't look like they'll take 10 wickets with a day to go an with a pretty low score to protect.

After watching this test series shoaib is a must have in the next test series.
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:30
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Originally Posted by Amjid Javed
west indies batting ave 2nd inns

smith 20.66
gayle 35.02
sarwan 39.21
lara 38.92
chanderpaul 37.24
hinds 23.18
browne 22.00
collymore 7.14
best 3.40
king 3.14
powell 3.25

total = 233.16 (so pakistan shud won by 47 runs )
Thanks for the stats! Now I'm depressed! (
u neva know u cricket thou.... w.i are looking good at moment!
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:31
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Apply pressure by taking wickets! Tight disciplined bowling and fielding is the order of the day.

Sadly it is not enough me thinks.
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Old 6th June 2005, 18:44
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west indies batting ave 2nd inns

smith 20.66
gayle 35.02
sarwan 39.21
lara 38.92
chanderpaul 37.24
hinds 23.18
browne 22.00
collymore 7.14
best 3.40
king 3.14
powell 3.25

total = 233.16 (so pakistan shud won by 47 runs )
gayle only got 15...! so thats a start!
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:08
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When the Windies chased over 400 to beat Auss on this ground Auss were without Warne..we have Kaneria, so i reckon on this pitch he could just do it for us.
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:37
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280 is tricky, but not a good target set by Pakistanis...
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:41
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If play has been called off for today, I believe it has enhanced our chances to win the test match. We need the Windies to attack and make mistakes.
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:43
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Yeah but then we can just shut up shop u need to win it we dont have to but i still feel we will and with ease!
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:46
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True sars, but the target is realistic for Windies to go for a win. India shut up shop at their own peril in the 3rd test match, which Pak won.
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Old 6th June 2005, 19:57
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We neede atleast 350, stupid Razzaq and AKmal fail in a situation tailor made for them.
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Old 6th June 2005, 20:03
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inshallah some how are POP-GUN attack will fire...

i hope rana bowls sumat decent rather than 3/4 boundary balls every over...
Rana cant bowl as u probably already know. just hope shabbir and danish dont get 3 warnings or inzy may have to do some bowling himself
Seriously 280 is not many runs to defend but it's still a fighting score. Inshallah we will win.
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Old 6th June 2005, 20:41
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well with Lara on current form, WI's are favourites...past results/stats dont really matter
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Old 6th June 2005, 20:47
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Interesting to hear BW comments on BBC, he said during the morning that 350-380 runs would be a formidable target to set, and then they would be confident to win....
Sadly Razzaq and tailenders didn't provide the support for inzi, and BW expectations were let down.....

It could still go down to the wire, but as of right now, I think Windies are slight favorites right now......
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Old 6th June 2005, 23:50
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Old 7th June 2005, 00:31
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Never count us out
We'll struggle to score 150, but we can also defend reasonably low scores too
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