BOMB blasts in India will the aussies Cancel the tour? CA wary after attacks

[Mian Hassan]

Five bombs have ripped through busy markets in India's capital, Delhi, within minutes of each other, killing at least 18 people, police say.

The explosions, which also injured about 80 people, are not thought to have been very powerful but happened in areas crowded with evening shoppers.

Crude explosives have been detonated in several Indian cities recently.

More than 400 people have died since October 2005 in attacks on Ahmedabad, Bangalore and other cities.

India has blamed Islamist militant groups for these previous bombings.

CNN-IBN, a local TV news channel, said it had received an e-mail before the blasts from a group calling itself the "Indian Mujahideen".

"Do whatever you can. Stop us if you can," the e-mail reportedly said.

The same group has claimed responsibility for two other recent bombing attacks.

Pakistan's new President, Asif Ali Zardari, "strongly condemned" the bomb attacks, expressing "shock and grief over the loss of precious human lives".

His Prime Minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, said the bombers were "enemies of humanity".

[Mian Hassan]

And if they go its a big slap on the face of the pakistanis!!!!!!!

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan And if they go its a big slap on the face of the pakistanis!!!!!!!

No it is not.

Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies.

That is all.

[natalia]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

true. a 100 blasts can happen at once in india but the aussies will still tour, compared to even a miniscule blast in pakistan (for example, on a bicycle) will spark fears amongst the minds of the white boards.
its not like ricky ponting will ride a bicycle from the stadium to his hotel, is it?

[Momo]

I think at least Ricky Ponting will be better off taking a consistent position on blasts and staying home (Symonds has already 'decided' to stay home).

If you know what I mean.

[pakistanbest]

RIP and condolonces to those who have dies and their families.

the Aussies will tour and when they do, it shows just what lengths they will go to for money. this tour should be cancelled if i was in the position of any aussie player, their is no difference between Pakistan and India bombings, the security would be the same

this tour has to be cancelled or it would show how Pakistan are being victimised by the Aussies just for them not being rich as their Indian counterparts

[muhammad saad]

Inna lillahe wa inna ilaehe raji oon.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by natalia true. a 100 blasts can happen at once in india but the aussies will still tour, compared to even a miniscule blast in pakistan (for example, on a bicycle) will spark fears amongst the minds of the white boards. its not like ricky ponting will ride a bicycle from the stadium to his hotel, is it?

Yawn it is not about fear it is about confidence in the host country to implement what is says it will do.

And you forgot to mention South Africa and the West Indies - who are not white.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan And if they go its a big slap on the face of the pakistanis!!!!!!!

How can she Slap!

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by pakistanbest RIP and condolonces to those who have dies and their families. the Aussies will tour and when they do, it shows just what lengths they will go to for money. this tour should be cancelled if i was in the position of any aussie player, their is no difference between Pakistan and India bombings, the security would be the same this tour has to be cancelled or it would show how Pakistan are being victimised by the Aussies just for them not being rich as their Indian counterparts

Flat out wrong. There is a vast difference.

"Victimised"? Come on now.

[pakistanbest]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Flat out wrong. There is a vast difference. "Victimised"? Come on now.

i dont see any difference, and Pakistan are being victimised if the Aussies go and play India when bombs have been gping off, just cause we are not rich billionaires and dont host the huge money league IPL, we are not safe enough.

no amount of money will protect the Aussies from any bombs

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yawn it is not about fear it is about confidence in the host country to implement what is says it will do. And you forgot to mention South Africa and the West Indies - who are not white.

With the way these bombs are going off India how can you have confidence with their security assurances.

In 2001 there were blasts in the Indian parliament, if they cant even provide security to their parliament house then how can you expect them to provide fool proof security to your cricketers. :Evil

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by pakistanbest i dont see any difference, and Pakistan are being victimised if the Aussies go and play India when bombs have been gping off, just cause we are not rich billionaires and dont host the huge money league IPL, we are not safe enough. no amount of money will protect the Aussies from any bombs

Well you probably don't see any difference because like a lot of the gung ho Pakistan posters on this issue, you don't live in Pakistan.

Read post #3 again

And as far as I am aware, bombings in India did not start when the IPL started.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Xoib With the way these bombs are going off India how can you have confidence with their security assurances. In 2001 there were blasts in the Indian parliament, if they cant even provide security to their parliament house then how can you expect them to provide fool proof security to your cricketers. :Evil

The Aus team believes India when it says it will provide top class security.

No security is fool proof, which illustrates another thing when PCB claim their security is "fool proof".

[Momo]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yawn it is not about fear it is about confidence in the host country to implement what is says it will do.

How will Indian security protect Ponting from the threat of Bhajji?

[natalia]

Originally Posted by pakistanbest RIP and condolonces to those who have dies and their families. the Aussies will tour and when they do, it shows just what lengths they will go to for money. this tour should be cancelled if i was in the position of any aussie player, their is no difference between Pakistan and India bombings, the security would be the same this tour has to be cancelled or it would show how Pakistan are being victimised by the Aussies just for them not being rich as their Indian counterparts

exactly! you're absolutely correct here, mate. there is no difference between blasts in pakistan and blasts in india no matter how severe each blast was, no matter if one blast killed some president in pakistan and hundreds others and the other in india was just in the middle of a market which killed 5 or 10 people. a bomb blast is a bomb blast, and a minor or major one still is a big thing. if this isn't taken seriously or atleast the matter isn't taken up on by one of the aussie team players or board staff, then i sense something fishy going on here...

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Momo How will Indian security protect Ponting from the threat of Bhajji?

By banning him for beating up his teammates, or showing dissent, or abusing the oppostion or....

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie The Aus team believes India when it says it will provide top class security. No security is fool proof, which illustrates another thing when PCB claim their security is "fool proof".

On what basis do they have this absolute belief, the amount of bombs that are going off should state otherwise.

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by Xoib With the way these bombs are going off India how can you have confidence with their security assurances. In 2001 there were blasts in the Indian parliament, if they cant even provide security to their parliament house then how can you expect them to provide fool proof security to your cricketers. :Evil

the real thing is that, these touring team members are unlikely to roam around in the city even in india which probably won't be a too safe place either. but about pakistan, the general belief in the western world is that the taliban has infiltrated in the police too. hence, the westerners just don't trust the police man standing next to them very much. somehow they don't have that fear in india. that may be the real reason for them not touring Pakistan right now.

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by dinakar the real thing is that, these touring team members are unlikely to roam around in the city even in india which probably won't be a too safe place either. but about pakistan, the general belief in the western world is that the taliban has infiltrated in the police too. hence, the westerners just don't trust the police man standing next to them very much. somehow they don't have that fear in india. that may be the real reason for them not touring Pakistan right now.

Where are you getting these reports

If you have carefully studied the bombings that have taken place in Pakistan in the last 2 years you would get an idea that the Western interests have not been targeted even once.

[Savak]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

Absolute Rubbish, our security team had provided the Australians and the most other cricket teams with Presidential level security. The Aussies wont even get that level of respect in India. Absolute double standards if you ask me. If the Aussies were offered $1 million to play in Iraq, they would all go with their families and play there.

This is ridiculous and the height of hypocrisy and discrimination. Not once has any terrorist ever targeted a cricket team directly, the South African tour of Pakistan in 2007 went ahead smoothly, the Asia Cup in 2008 went ahead smoothly. We even bowed to everyone's demands by restricting the Champions Trophy to Lahore and Karachi.

Fine enough we dont want such cry babies and greedy hypocrites here, just compensate us for each and every penny we put into making the security and hosting arrangements and for every other hassle we put up with in order to arrange the tournament and all fair and square.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by dinakar the real thing is that, these touring team members are unlikely to roam around in the city even in india which probably won't be a too safe place either. but about pakistan, the general belief in the western world is that the taliban has infiltrated in the police too. hence, the westerners just don't trust the police man standing next to them very much. somehow they don't have that fear in india. that may be the real reason for them not touring Pakistan right now.

Pretty much. Although not Taliban infiltrated as such but more suspicion that members of the Pak Govt and security forces are sympathetic to the cause of Islamic terrorism.

And the fact that the PCB appears massively incompetent does not help as they are the ones hosting any given tour.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Savak Absolute Rubbish, our security team had provided the Australians and the most other cricket teams with Presidential level security. The Aussies wont even get that level of respect in India. Absolute double standards if you ask me. If the Aussies were offered $1 million to play in Iraq, they would all go with their families and play there. This is ridiculous and the height of hypocrisy and discrimination. Not once has any terrorist ever targeted a cricket team directly, the South African tour of Pakistan in 2007 went ahead smoothly, the Asia Cup in 2008 went ahead smoothly. We even bowed to everyone's demands by restricting the Champions Trophy to Lahore and Karachi. Fine enough we dont want such cry babies and greedy hypocrites here, just compensate us for each and every penny we put into making the security and hosting arrangements and for every other hassle we put up with in order to arrange the tournament and all fair and square.

No your security forces had promised that level of security.

Only Sri Lanka and India believed such promises. The rest of the cricket playing world did not.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Xoib On what basis do they have this absolute belief, the amount of bombs that are going off should state otherwise.

Ok to put it even more bluntly for you, the Aus team does not believe the Pakistan Govt, PCB and security forces when they say the security will be foolproof.

[pakistanbest]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Well you probably don't see any difference because like a lot of the gung ho Pakistan posters on this issue, you don't live in Pakistan. Read post #3 again And as far as I am aware, bombings in India did not start when the IPL started.

and do u live in Pakistan?.... knowing that India is safer than Pakistan or do u just watch the western media portraying Pakistan as a war torn country when infact their is no difference between the situation's in countries like Pakistan, India or Sri Lanka along with many others

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Ok to put it even more bluntly for you, the Aus team does not believe the Pakistan Govt, PCB and security forces when they say the security will be foolproof.

Well i guess money talks.

[PlanetPakistan]

Condolence to the families of the victims.

[Pakwatan]

This thread is not needed. Sorry to hear some people were killed during the bomb blast.

Beside, as someone said, Money run the power. Why ask?

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by Pakwatan This thread is not needed. Sorry to hear some people were killed during the bomb blast. Beside, as someone said, Money run the power. Why ask?

fully agree with every word

[india_fan]

What ridiculousness! Who the eff cares if Australia tours India or no ? People have died in these blasts and all you guys are worrying whether or not Australia will play cricket in India.

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by india_fan What ridiculousness! Who the eff cares if Australia tours India or no ? People have died in these blasts and all you guys are worrying whether or not Australia will play cricket in India.

If you go through the thread you will find people have given their condolences to the dead but this is a cricket forum and there is a link of this incident to an important issue that is hindering Pak cricket and people have all the right to have a discussion/argument on it.

[Saj]

Very sad news indeed.

As for the question asked by the title of this thread. Cancel the tour and run the risk of losing millions if rupees from the IPL - absolutely unthinkable. Money talks and player walks !

[161]

Originally Posted by india_fan What ridiculousness! Who the eff cares if Australia tours India or no ? People have died in these blasts and all you guys are worrying whether or not Australia will play cricket in India.

condolences to everyone affected but FYI this is a CRICKET forum.

[kingusama92]

im quite saddened by the news of these blasts... quite painful to always wake up day in and day out to read such news... regarding the cricket i certainly don't wish that Australia stops their tour cause this series will be a cracker... plus the indian mujahideen isn't targetting foreigners well they haven't said anything of that sort yet...

[Savak]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No your security forces had promised that level of security. Only Sri Lanka and India believed such promises. The rest of the cricket playing world did not.

Whose fault is that then? Certainly not Sri Lanka and India. Just admit it, the west has its double standards and the issue had more to do with the fact there wasnt much money on offer in Pakistan.

[123]

Originally Posted by Xoib With the way these bombs are going off India how can you have confidence with their security assurances. In 2001 there were blasts in the Indian parliament, if they cant even provide security to their parliament house then how can you expect them to provide fool proof security to your cricketers. :Evil

there has never been a blast in or around Indian parliament. The last time Indian parliament was attacked (with guns) , the terrorist couldn't even cross the main gate outside the parliament.

[Mohsin]

RIP and condolences to all people involved

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

:miandad

[Kriketer]

Originally Posted by Xoib Where are you getting these reports If you have carefully studied the bombings that have taken place in Pakistan in the last 2 years you would get an idea that the Western interests have not been targeted even once.

He got the info. from an e-mail that was sent by some terrorist organization in Pakistan! Terrorists sending out e-mails....lame Indian media & government.

[sohailalam]

condolences to the families of the affected ones.

the series wont be called off, the difference between the image india projects and the one we project is just huge. they are seen as the victims of terrorism, we are seen as back door supporters.

[Kriketer]

and ya RIP and condolences with those who were affected.

[MIG]

Sad news for those who have died and their loved ones.

As the below article from Hindu states - there is some degree of apprehension in India.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...it+be+India%3f After Pakistan, will it be India? Anand Vasu, Hindustan Times Only 10 days before Australia are scheduled to land in India for their four-Test tour, just hours after a Pakistan team arrived in the national capital to play their Nissar Trophy match against Ranji champions Delhi, serial blasts ripped through the city throwing things into uncertainty. The first bomb went off at 6.10 pm, close to midnight in Australia and there was no response to phone calls to Cricket Australia's Jolimont Street headquarters in Melbourne. The Board of Control for Cricket in India, however, reacted guardedly. "We are definitely concerned with today's explosions in Delhi. These are testing times," Niranjan Shah, BCCI secretary, told HT. "But I don't think it will have any impact on the coming Australia series." The BCCI's optimism might prove to be misplaced as the explosions raise serious questions. Only recently, the 'western bloc' — led by South Africa and willingly supported by Australia, England and New Zealand — refused to take part in the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, leading to the tournament being "postponed" to October 2009. It remains to be seen now, whether Australia continue to consider India safe to tour. They are scheduled to play their first Test in Bangalore, the city where seven blasts caused a spate of injuries and triggered a wave of terror on July 25. One day later, more than 50 died when serial explosions targetted Ahmedabad, where England are scheduled to play in December. Add to this the Jaipur terror attacks in the middle of the Indian Premier League, and the situation is ripe for a pullout from either Australia or England or both. With the Champions Trophy unable to get off the ground as teams refused to tour Pakistan on security grounds, a precedent has been set, the implications of which are dire, from a cricketing point of view. Since the pullout, Pakistan have struggled to arrange fixtures. First, they approached South Africa to host a one-day tri-series but the Proteas declined. Sri Lanka followed suit, conveying their inability to play Pakistan at the time. Such is the Pakistan board's desperation for some cricket that they are casting their net far and wide. They have appealed to the West Indies to travel to Pakistan to play two Tests in November soon after the two teams play ODIs in Abu Dhabi in early November. The West Indies are yet to reply. Pakistan have also approached New Zealand with an invitation to play two Tests, but the Kiwis were among the teams who were unconvinced by security assurances and, in the recent past, have abandoned tours after bombs went off in the host country. Pakistan's situation is so desperate that they have agreed to a four-day Twenty20 tournament also involving Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and hosts Canada. It should surprise no one that Pakistan are scraping the bottom of the barrel. It is already September and they have not played a Test match home or away yet this year, and have nothing scheduled till India travel across the border in the new year. 2008 will go down as the first year since 1970 (a different era of cricket, much before the ICC's Future Tours programme came into being) when Pakistan have not played a single Test. Even in 2002, with terrorism concerns at their peak after the September 11, 2001 attacks in the USA, Pakistan managed 12 Tests, although only one of those was at home, with four being played in Sharjah, as neither West Indies nor Australia agreed to play in Pakistan. Earlier this month, when the cricket world had a chance to stand by Pakistan in their hour of need, and play the Champions Trophy there, they backed out. What will the response be now, when terror has struck the Indian capital? This after all, is also the home of cricket's economic superpower, the BCCI.

[Wazeeri]

It is quite sad that there was not a word of condolences in the OP.

It is shameful that we decided to score points on the death of dozens of people.

This thread could have waited a few weeks.

Condolences to all the dead, extremely sad state of affairs in all of the world.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by Wazeeri It is quite sad that there was not a word of condolences in the OP. It is shameful that we decided to score points on the death of dozens of people. This thread could have waited a few weeks. Condolences to all the dead, extremely sad state of affairs in all of the world.

Agree with this post.

As for the bit in bold.....I really do not understand what is happening with this world. I really am beginning to think that it is not worth having any children. What sort of planet are my chilren going to be living in (and they are still a good 5-7 years away from being born, at least)? The way the world is going, I really don't want to know.

[rahulrulezz]

Rip

[bones20]

Originally Posted by Wazeeri It is quite sad that there was not a word of condolences in the OP. It is shameful that we decided to score points on the death of dozens of people. This thread could have waited a few weeks. Condolences to all the dead, extremely sad state of affairs in all of the world.

its an everyday thing now. Watch the movie "Wednesday". Really insightful.

[wanted_desi]

I agree most of people here didn't care about lives lost, but wanted to score some points.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by wanted_desi I agree most of people here didn't care about lives lost, but wanted to score some points.

Naah lets not blame and criticize. Lets be understanding.

Condemnation of such events is understood. Nobody supports killings of innocent civilians.

[Pakwatan]

Originally Posted by wanted_desi I agree most of people here didn't care about lives lost, but wanted to score some points.

People who were deprived of NO Cricket in almost one year, has certainly made them blind. I hold no blame on them either. But again, we should look at what is more important. The sad part is, this bomb blast issues will never stop.

[the Great Khan]

its just cricket..yes we're upset about the lack of cricket but we'll be back..these people won't be back ufortunatley..we all talk and analyse but sometimes all you can do is shut up and reflect..

[Savak]

I offer my condolences to all the families, friends who have their loved ones. Apologies for not mentioning it earlier.

[Lightning]

RIP. My condolences to all those affected.

I always have a little laugh when Random Aussie tries to sound like he knows exactly what's going on inside the head of the Australian team and security advisors.

Just cut the crap man. We all know that the only reason Aus will tour India in the middle of a holocaust and not Pak is because of money. India is a cricket super power and everyone, especially Aus, is damn well aware of that.

Pak can provide as good a security blanket for touring teams as any other state. So stop talking out of your a$$. Though "Random" Aussie suits you quite well.

[Savak]

Originally Posted by Mohsin_Pak786 RIP and condolences to all people involved :miandad

No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

i so totally agree :miandad

[dblock]

Originally Posted by Pakwatan This thread is not needed. Sorry to hear some people were killed during the bomb blast. Beside, as someone said, Money run the power. Why ask?

I agree, making political points off peoples deaths is not the way to go, it's frustrating as a Pakistan cricket fan, but you have to play the card you are dealt - if teams are not coming to Pakistan, then they can't be forced. Them avoiding other countries (India, in this instance) would not really be of any benefit for cricket or pakistan.

[feather]

My heart goes out to the families that have lost their love ones. It is always sad to see this be it in Pakistan or India or anywhere else in the world. Innocent people are dying around the world everyday. Some by bombs which are planted by cowards while others by supreme powers while the world over accepts such cowardly actions.

Just as real are bombs just as real are the issues that we are dealing with. Just because a bomb has gone off...have we all stopped living? stop enjoying food and music? I don't think so.

Pakistan is facing serious problems some of which are not even ours problems. We are forced to deal with them because we are trying to help others. What do other do leave us to deal with them alone....when we need them the most. Pakistani lives are just as important as the Indian ones. Our blood isn't cheap which we shed to fight a war that has basically been forced upon us.

Our promises are just as real as the Indian ones when it comes to security however as we have seen in the past unlike the Indians we do do not have the upper hand when BCCI reminded few cricketers leaving would mean end to their IPL contracts.

Lets be realistic here. Pakistan has hosted everyone who has visited Pakistan without any problems in the last 10 years. Indians were promised and were provided with said security. Roads were blocked from their hotel to stadium in which they were going to travel on...special forces were assigned to protect them. They came they saw the situation and it is on record how they felt and everyone else who visited Pakistan.

It is beyond stupid for Random Aussie to claim that Aussie's have more faith in Indian's then Pakistani...based on what exactly? How many bombs have gone off in India...how many did they prevent? Compare that to Pakistan who has been fighting these cowards and prevents such attacks not only in Pakistan but abroad as well.

Lets not even forget...cricket has never been targeted anywhere in the world let alone in Pakistan. The masses love cricket...no one wants the masses against them.

[bablu_khan]

Feather bhai, great post buddy.

i just enjoyed reading it so much that i read it twice.

thanks for posting this

[Bublu Bhuyan]

My views - countries from the West don't wanna tour Pakistan cuz they even wanna take the slightest chance of dying. Yes, they would be provided full proof security, but as I said they simply don't even want to take the slightest of chances of dying.

India ? Yes, there are bomb blasts happening, but there is something to gain here. Risk of life ? Ok, maybe, but there are such rewards for touring that it simply cannot be rejected.

This is my honest view.

[Nakhuda]

With all the political chaos and war in neighbouring Afghanistan and yes in Pak too the chances of bombs going of in Pakistan are far greater then in India.For this reason other nations are reluctant to visit us.

Anyway,in such times with so much bloodshed and our very existence being at stake cricket should be the last thing on our minds.

[OZGOD]

Condolences to those who died. Innocent life is precious, be they Pakistani, Indian, American, Afghani, Australian or whatever.

It almost sounds like some people are hoping for more bomb blasts in India, just so that they can point out Aussie hypocrisy.

Personally, I think the OZ will tour anyway. I think as RA said it's more to do with the fact that the situation in Pakistan is considered to be systemic while the one in India more exception to the rule. Also, they probably have a bit more faith in the BCCI (being a private company and not beholden to the Indian govt) and their ability to conduct security than in Pakistan, when Mushy had been impeached before the tour and had resigned, and Ashraf had resigned, and Zardari and Sharif were jockeying for power.

And realistically, money does play a role.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by LightSpeedGT RIP. My condolences to all those affected. I always have a little laugh when Random Aussie tries to sound like he knows exactly what's going on inside the head of the Australian team and security advisors. Just cut the crap man. We all know that the only reason Aus will tour India in the middle of a holocaust and not Pak is because of money. India is a cricket super power and everyone, especially Aus, is damn well aware of that. Pak can provide as good a security blanket for touring teams as any other state. So stop talking out of your a$$. Though "Random" Aussie suits you quite well.

I have no idea what goes on in their heads, I am just repeating what has been reported.

Don't really care what you think about it mate. Other than to note yet again that it seems you don't actually live in Pakstan either.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by feather It is beyond stupid for Random Aussie to claim that Aussie's have more faith in Indian's then Pakistani...based on what exactly? How many bombs have gone off in India...how many did they prevent? Compare that to Pakistan who has been fighting these cowards and prevents such attacks not only in Pakistan but abroad as well. Lets not even forget...cricket has never been targeted anywhere in the world let alone in Pakistan. The masses love cricket...no one wants the masses against them.

Yawn "beyond stupid" ok.

But that is what they think.

[Omar Malik]

Sad news....

[moumotta]

I wonder what this thread is trying to prove.

1. Australians don't mind risking their lives for money but it has to be Indian money.

2. Risk wise Pakistan is no different from any other country particularly India regardless of the fact that most countries travel advices have different risk assessments for them.

3. The Australian posters do not know what is motivating their players. They need to check it with Pakistani posters for they know it too well and beyond doubts.

[W63L35]

This is so sad. So many innocent lives are being lost all over the world for no apparent reason.

I am sure these people are going to burn in hell. One thing they do not realize that a person killed in a blast could be the only bread-earner for the whole family..... as it happened in the bomb blast in Wah factory.

[Romali_rotti]

RIP to all the victims, may the lord give salvation to the dead and peace to their families..

[W63L35]

Australia wary after New Delhi terrorist attacks Peter English September 14, 2008 Cricket Australia will commission an urgent report from its long-term security adviser outlining the safety situation in India following a series of bomb blasts in New Delhi on Saturday that killed more than 20 people. The city is the venue for Australia's third Test, starting on October 29, and the terrorist attacks raise more safety issues after they decided not to tour Pakistan this month for the Champions Trophy, a stance which led to the postponement of the tournament. Reg Dickason, the team's security manager, will work on the report with the Australian Cricketers' Association and Peter Young, Cricket Australia's public affairs manager, said he expected a decision would be made "in the next week or so". Michael Brown, Cricket Australia's general manager of cricket, will also speak with the Indian board, the Australian High Commission, which is based in New Delhi, and security agencies to gain information on travelling in the country. "The fundamental principle that always comes first is the safety of the team and the team officials," Young said. "There's a standard process for every tour. Such is the way of the world these days that this process is completed before we go anywhere." A pre-tour assessment has already been done but if the concerns remain Cricket Australia will consider another inspection. While the first Test is not until October 9 in Bangalore, the 15-man squad is due to leave next Sunday and play two warm-up matches in Jaipur and Mumbai. Australia A are currently in Hyderabad, about 1500km south of New Delhi, preparing for a tri-series with teams from India and New Zealand. Niranjan Shah, the secretary of the Indian board, said the BCCI was concerned by the explosions. "But I don't think it will have any impact on the coming Australia series," he told the Hindustan Times. One of Cricket Australia's main reasons for its stance on Pakistan for the Champions Trophy and the earlier Test and one-day series, which were also postponed, was the terrorist threats to westerners. "The specific answer we were given on Pakistan was that it was not safe to go," Young said. "We will take advice on this situation and will make a decision. We expect that to be in the next week or so." The Australian government's updated travel advice for India is "to exercise a high degree of caution because of the high risk of terrorist activity by militant groups". The latest attacks were reportedly planned by the Indian Mujahideen group, but there have been other deadly explosions since May in Jaipur, Ahmedabad and Bangalore. Safety and security briefing * September 13, 2008 - More than 20 people are killed in a series of blasts in New Delhi, the venue for the third Australia-India Test from October 29 * August 24, 2008 - The Champions Trophy is postponed due to safety issues after Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and England tell the ICC they won't take part * July 26, 2008 - About 50 people die in Ahmedabad when 16 bombs detonate within 20 minutes * July 25, 2008 - Seven bombs go off in Bangalore, killing a woman and injuring 15 people * May 13, 2008 - More than 60 people are killed in Jaipur, but the Rajasthan Royals refuse to amend their schedule and their games go ahead without incident * March 11, 2008 - Australia postpone their Test and one-day series against Pakistan, which were due to be held in March and April 2008, saying the safety and security of their players must come first

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indv...ry/369699.html

[Romali_rotti]

Quote from Indian Mujahadeen:

“We the Indian Mujahideen, ask Allah, the Almighty, to accept from us these nine explosions which were planned to be executed in the holy month of Ramadan,” states a 13-page manifesto and video slide-show e-mailed by the Indian Mujahideen to media in the midst of the bombings."

Whats wrong with these fools ? asking god to accept a sinful act as a gift ? I am quite disturbed do these people even have the ability to think ?

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Quote from Indian Mujahadeen: “We the Indian Mujahideen, ask Allah, the Almighty, to accept from us these nine explosions which were planned to be executed in the holy month of Ramadan,” states a 13-page manifesto and video slide-show e-mailed by the Indian Mujahideen to media in the midst of the bombings." Whats wrong with these fools ? asking god to accept a sinful act as a gift ? I am quite disturbed do these people even have the ability to think ?

if they did...then they wouldn't be doing all this...

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Quote from Indian Mujahadeen: “We the Indian Mujahideen, ask Allah, the Almighty, to accept from us these nine explosions which were planned to be executed in the holy month of Ramadan,” states a 13-page manifesto and video slide-show e-mailed by the Indian Mujahideen to media in the midst of the bombings." Whats wrong with these fools ? asking god to accept a sinful act as a gift ? I am quite disturbed do these people even have the ability to think ?

No sane Muslim ..... and I repeat.... no SANE MUSLIM.... would doing this kind of thing because the biggest thing these bombings are hurting... is the religion of Islam.

I still remember a quote by Prince Bandar (the Saudi Ambassador in USA during 2001) interview 3-4 days 9/11/2001 at CNN's Larry King Live. It was a day or two after when is was announced/found that the 9/11 high-jackers were Muslims. Larry asked him ... what he thinks about the all the 19 high-jackers being Muslims and mostly from Saudi Arabia.

I'll never forget what Prince said..... he said; "Larry, if you gathered 50 people from the world who hated Islam/Muslims the most and locked them in a room. Told them they will stay locked until they come up with a plan to hurt Muslims/Islam the best possible way. Larry, I assure, you they will come up with this (9/11) plan."

In other words, he was saying that the people who did 9/11 were not Muslims. Similarly, people who are doing suicide bombings in India and Pakistan -- are NOT Muslims. Those people are doing a unrepairable damage to Muslims and the religion of Islam.

[Pakwatan]

It can't be possible. Beside, Islam doesn't permit violence.

Speaking of revenge which is quite clear to appear everywhere, but it can't be Muslim who uses the name of Allah. No way. Only way is the possible that they have to be lunatic, to do that

I share the same opinion with W63L65

[m2cricfan]

i think its a reaction against the recent spat between India army and Kashmiri People in which Indian soldier had killed 7 innocent person.

So, i suggest Australia to take a keen look at the circumstances in India, same as in Pakistan.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by W63L35 No sane Muslim ..... and I repeat.... no SANE MUSLIM.... would doing this kind of thing because the biggest thing these bombings are hurting... is the religion of Islam. I still remember a quote by Prince Bandar (the Saudi Ambassador in USA during 2001) interview 3-4 days 9/11/2001 at CNN's Larry King Live. It was a day or two after when is was announced/found that the 9/11 high-jackers were Muslims. Larry asked him ... what he thinks about the all the 19 high-jackers being Muslims and mostly from Saudi Arabia. I'll never forget what Prince said..... he said; "Larry, if you gathered 50 people from the world who hated Islam/Muslims the most and locked them in a room. Told them they will stay locked until they come up with a plan to hurt Muslims/Islam the best possible way. Larry, I assure, you they will come up with this (9/11) plan." In other words, he was saying that the people who did 9/11 were not Muslims. Similarly, people who are doing suicide bombings in India and Pakistan -- are NOT Muslims. Those people are doing a unrepairable damage to Muslims and the religion of Islam.

totally agree. I personally have a lot of muslim friends including pakistanis. I am a follower of quite a few muslim personalities like nusrat, arrahman (who BTW converted from hindu to muslim), abdul kalam (ex indian prime minister) etc.

However, this one thing is quite starking on my mind and that is; take any terrorist blasts anywhere in the world. why does it always have to have a muslim hand in that?

There is this new movie lately released titled "Wednesday". It really depicts the situation well from a muslim and a common man's perspective.

[Lightning]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie I have no idea what goes on in their heads, I am just repeating what has been reported. Don't really care what you think about it mate. Other than to note yet again that it seems you don't actually live in Pakstan either.

So you don't care but are posting to tell me that? Haha. Oh man that's laughable.

[siddharth]

Thats shocking . R I P. I do think that this would have an effect on CA .

[Islamabadi]

australia would play there,, those hypocrites

[wanted_desi]

What surprises me is that these people live in India. Home-grown terrorists are on the increase.

[feather]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yawn "beyond stupid" ok. But that is what they think.

Says the person who has defended his team on every possible instance for their cowardly actions. Least others who happen to be Indians and Ozgod realize that money does play a role here. The Pakistani fans simply want Aussie's to be consistant in their approach.

Lets be realistic here if someone really wanted to target the Aussie team they can target them anywhere. Yes, the chances are higher in Pakistan but then again they won't be safe anywhere in the world. An attack would be impossible to stop.

However the fact is...cricket or cricketers are not the target nor is the Pakistani public the target in Pakistan. It is the security forces/army etc.

The above isn't the case in India...in India the indians are the targets...the markets are the targets and I am pretty sure if they could they would want to target a cricket stadium since the their aim is to kill innocent people.

I have friends who are indian...I have employees who are indian...I simply do NOT have a problem with India or indians. I do not wish for bomb blasts...and I hope the cowards that do this die a horrible death. Killing innocent people is unacceptable.

But anyone who claims if cricketers were the target and they would be more safe in India...need to see a doc quickly. The fact is...cricket is loved and followed religiously both India and Pakistan. No one really wants to target cricket or cricketers hence they are pretty safe but it is sad that Aussie's would visit India for money but wouldn't visit Pakistan just cause the rewards aren't that great.

End of the day it isn't abt security.

[bones20]

How much is the difference in black and white of Australian income in India vs Pakistan for a similar tour schedule?

[JeeraBlade]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be),they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

What makes you say that? Any news report, statement by CA? or you are just assuming that?

or you have started think like Katich and don't wanna get the "new ashes" series cancelled?

[ehjaz]

Aussies will play there as India is a strong financial hub for cricketing world and finances play 90% role....

[Khabri420]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie No it is not. Australian team has faith in the Indian government and security agencies to keep things safe (or as safe as they can be), they do not have the same confidence in the Pakistan government and security agencies. That is all.

That is a very lame justification.