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Old 25th October 2008, 18:28
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To all Afridi critics...

im sick of people calling for afridi's head all the time, ESPECIALLY of late
even though he isnt in batting form, he is BY FAR the best bowler in our team. the stats speak for themselves
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Old 25th October 2008, 18:29
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Old 25th October 2008, 18:30
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Old 25th October 2008, 18:36
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some people dont know they have struck gold till its too late

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Old 26th October 2008, 18:55
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some people dont know they have struck gold till its too late

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Old 26th October 2008, 19:02
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There are more Afridi fans - last year he was voted most popular Pakistani cricketer EVER in a Dawn poll.

He's a legend already and will be remembered even more fondly when he retires, as SamM implied.

No-one will ever come close to his relentlessly violent approach to the game. He's pure gold.
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Old 26th October 2008, 21:12
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Well in the Passed 2 Years.

Afridi has had an average of about 29.50
Umar Gul, Tanvir and Rao all have better averages.

Newcomers: Saeed Ajmal, Riaz, Sohail Khan also have better averages.

Afridi is a good bowler, no doubt about that, it has certainly improved. But the best bowler in the team? Don't kid yourself.

But whatever,
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Old 26th October 2008, 21:14
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best odi and t20 bowler in the WORLD... not just in Pakistan

someone wanna get some stats?
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Old 27th October 2008, 00:08
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afridi has been out of form since last two years...he only takes wickets against crappy teams too. drop him now,,,he sucks
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Old 27th October 2008, 00:16
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im sick of people calling for afridi's head all the time, ESPECIALLY of late
even though he isnt in batting form, he is BY FAR the best bowler in our team. the stats speak for themselves
Actually the stats show that he isn't but let's not the facts get in the way of a good slogan
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Old 27th October 2008, 02:30
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best odi and t20 bowler in the WORLD... not just in Pakistan

someone wanna get some stats?
I'm a big time Afridi fan but I won't defend him. His performance has been sub-par the last year. If you take out the matches against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, his stats are very ordinary. Remember how the Indian batsmen lit him up last year? If he's in the team for his bowling alone then its fine. But then its time to stop calling him the beast, he's a spinner and that's it.
Does he deserve a spot in the team? Yes
Does he have to earn a place? Yes
Should his days be numbered? Yes
Can he rebound from his awful form? Yes
Is it time to stop defending his performance?... Yes
Should he be made captain? No
I'm not a Afridi hater. Infact I want all the Pakistani players to do well. But those who perform should be selected and no player should be given a free pass when it comes to criticism. Afridi being named captain is not justified. Younis and Misbah are the 2 players who deserve a shot if Malik is sacked.
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Old 27th October 2008, 03:43
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could someone post the bowling stats of afridi in the last two years but kindly remove his performances against bangladesh and zimbabwe. even my mother in law can get few wickets against bangladesh and zimbabwe. everytime i saw afridi bowling against india, he never looked threatening. he was only getting slaughtered by our batsmen.
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Old 27th October 2008, 03:44
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Critics,
read this topic. http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ad.php?t=63430
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Old 27th October 2008, 03:44
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I agree that Afridi is a good bowler but I do wish people would stop referring to him as a batsman. The guy closes his eyes and swings from the hip, missing more often than he hits - that's not a batsman.
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Old 27th October 2008, 04:10
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Old 27th October 2008, 04:15
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Is this a thread to vent out ?
I think it's supposed to be an 'I told you so' thread aimed at Afridi critics. I'm just not sure what exactly it was we were supposed to have been told.
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Old 27th October 2008, 04:43
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could someone post the bowling stats of afridi in the last two years but kindly remove his performances against bangladesh and zimbabwe. even my mother in law can get few wickets against bangladesh and zimbabwe. everytime i saw afridi bowling against india, he never looked threatening. he was only getting slaughtered by our batsmen.
first of all welcome to PP.

Your mother in law could have been handy here
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...ch/247464.html
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Old 27th October 2008, 05:18
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first of all welcome to PP.

Your mother in law could have been handy here
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...ch/247464.html

do you want me to bring the scorecard of pak vs ireland match? world's best team australia too lost to bangladesh.

your team lost to ireland and lost to aussies too. does that mean ireland is as good as aussies just becos your team lost to both countries?
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Old 27th October 2008, 05:24
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do you want me to bring the scorecard of pak vs ireland match? world's best team australia too lost to bangladesh.

your team lost to ireland and lost to aussies too. does that mean ireland is as good as aussies just becos your team lost to both countries?
why are you always so cranky ?
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Old 27th October 2008, 05:29
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do you want me to bring the scorecard of pak vs ireland match? world's best team australia too lost to bangladesh.

your team lost to ireland and lost to aussies too. does that mean ireland is as good as aussies just becos your team lost to both countries?
you didn't reply to the welcome part...

Secondly i never claimed that my saas jee would get wickets against Ireland.
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:05
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do you want me to bring the scorecard of pak vs ireland match? world's best team australia too lost to bangladesh.

your team lost to ireland and lost to aussies too. does that mean ireland is as good as aussies just becos your team lost to both countries?
your team lost to bangladesh TWICE: lost to kenya TWICE; and beaten by zimbabwe TEN times.
i dont think any "top class" team was beaten by the minnows that many times.

against bangladesh
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/64916.html
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...ch/247464.html

against kenya
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/66149.html
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/66103.html
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:21
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Please leave afiridi in the team. He is a very valuable player for the oppostion. Any team that plays him knowe that they have his number. Keep him quiet for 2 balls then give him a "hit me anywhere ball" and he duly obliges by running down the wicket and getting bowled or stumped (run out!!!). If he fails with the bowled or stumped you are guarenteed that he will place it nicely into a fielders hands.
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:34
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Please leave afiridi in the team. He is a very valuable player for the oppostion. Any team that plays him knowe that they have his number. Keep him quiet for 2 balls then give him a "hit me anywhere ball" and he duly obliges by running down the wicket and getting bowled or stumped (run out!!!). If he fails with the bowled or stumped you are guarenteed that he will place it nicely into a fielders hands.
i think you forgot the 77* drubbing of 35 balls.
balls landing in the parking lot
Nel pulling his own hair in madness ;)
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:45
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i think you forgot the 77* drubbing of 35 balls.
balls landing in the parking lot
Nel pulling his own hair in madness ;)
Yes. I had forgotten.

He plays so FEW of those types of innings that it is easier to remember his poor innings and THAT is the point.

BTW nel does not need afridi to pull his hair out in madness, his madness lets him do that all by himself
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:47
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There are more Afridi fans - last year he was voted most popular Pakistani cricketer EVER in a Dawn poll.

He's a legend already and will be remembered even more fondly when he retires, as SamM implied.

No-one will ever come close to his relentlessly violent approach to the game. He's pure gold.
I Khan and the 2 "W's" are legends. Afridi cannot be mentioned in the same breathe as these 3 thank you very much.
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:53
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your team lost to bangladesh TWICE: lost to kenya TWICE; and beaten by zimbabwe TEN times.
i dont think any "top class" team was beaten by the minnows that many times.

against bangladesh
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/64916.html
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...ch/247464.html

against kenya
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/66149.html
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/stat...tch/66103.html
yeah 2 out of 1000 games...
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:54
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you didn't reply to the welcome part...

Secondly i never claimed that my saas jee would get wickets against Ireland.

sorry i missed it.. anyway thanks.
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Old 27th October 2008, 09:48
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I do believe that if a genuine young spinner had been given as long and consistent run as Afridi was, he would have achieved better result in the long run for Pak. One of the reason Afridi seems to stand out as a bowler is because no other bowler has stayed in the team for a long time in the last 2 years.
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:06
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I Khan and the 2 "W's" are legends. Afridi cannot be mentioned in the same breathe as these 3 thank you very much.
Dude it was an opinion poll.

I'm very much aware of I Khan and the 2 Ws legendary status. I'm sure no-one disagrees. But in the poll, Shahid Afridi was voted as the most popular cricketer ever, above Imran Khan, above Waqar and Wasim and every cricketer we've ever had.
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:09
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Afridi is not a great player, he hasnt delivered with the bat for 2 years now
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:13
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But he's the most popular Pakistani player ever according to the only opinion poll I know about the subject.

Great or not, he'll be remembered more than most of our players. He's the only one who gets everyone on their feet, including players (Eng Vs Pak last year in tests) and lift the roof off the stadium. He's a legend.
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:15
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Afridi is not a great player, he hasnt delivered with the bat for 2 years now
You must have been comatose last year then when he brutally murdered South Africa and Sri Lanka.

Let us know if you're still in the dark about it
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:15
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But he's the most popular Pakistani player ever according to the only opinion poll I know about the subject.

Great or not, he'll be remembered more than most of our players. He's the only one who gets everyone on their feet, including players (Eng Vs Pak last year in tests) and lift the roof off the stadium. He's a legend.
He's not legend...but yes he's a great entertainer if he gets going which sadly hasnt happened for a long time now
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:29
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Ahh he's not a legend. A very nebulous concept and just a question of straight semantics.

By my definition, he's a legend. By yours he isn't. See? Simple!
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:10
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You must have been comatose last year then when he brutally murdered South Africa and Sri Lanka.

Let us know if you're still in the dark about it
afridi vs south africa 2007/2008 season in pakistan

m 5
r 94
hs 47
ave 18.8

afridi vs sri lanka 2007 season

m 2
r 74
hs 73* (which means he got 1 in the other match)
ave 74 (thanx to the 1 not out innings)

Now if that is murder then he actually slaughtered the opposition.

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Old 27th October 2008, 12:25
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Dude it was an opinion poll.

I'm very much aware of I Khan and the 2 Ws legendary status. I'm sure no-one disagrees. But in the poll, Shahid Afridi was voted as the most popular cricketer ever, above Imran Khan, above Waqar and Wasim and every cricketer we've ever had.
If it was a poll where he was voted the most popular then you cannot state that he is a legend until a poll regarding that issue is conducted.

You cannot simply call him a legend because he won a popularity contest. Legendary status is earned and he don't come anywhere near that.

Although buttering the bread on both sides is not a new concept .....
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:34
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I refer you to post 34 my friend

We cant have a serious discussion about who or who isn't a legend.
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:39
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Ahh he's not a legend. A very nebulous concept and just a question of straight semantics.

By my definition, he's a legend. By yours he isn't. See? Simple!
Your definition must be very weak my friend, very weak
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:39
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Ahh he's not a legend. A very nebulous concept and just a question of straight semantics.

By my definition, he's a legend. By yours he isn't. See? Simple!
By my definition, he's not a legend. By yours he is. I see now, you are right it is simple!!!!
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:40
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afridi vs south africa 2007/2008 season in pakistan

m 5
r 94
hs 47
ave 18.8

afridi vs sri lanka 2007 season

m 2
r 74
hs 73* (which means he got 1 in the other match)
ave 74 (thanx to the 1 not out innings)

Now if that is murder then he actually slaughtered the opposition.


that is Brooootal! Absolute Mayhem by the beast... hehe ahem ahem Sarcasm ahem
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:49
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im sick of people calling for afridi's head all the time, ESPECIALLY of late
even though he isnt in batting form, he is BY FAR the best bowler in our team. the stats speak for themselves
Afridi fans

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Old 27th October 2008, 12:52
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Your definition must be very weak my friend, very weak
The nebulousness of the discussion is increasing in strength my dear brother
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:54
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Its funny how Afridi riles up opinions so easily. There is no harm in supporting your team and its players - infact, it is quite a positive thing to do. Most of the critics will cream themselves the next time Afridi scores, and the match commentary thread will be prime evidence of that.

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The nebulousness of the discussion is increasing in strength my dear brother
uff stop googling random words... even Afridi wouldnt want you to talk that way...ya heard
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:58
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Its funny how Afridi riles up opinions so easily. There is no harm in supporting your team and its players - infact, it is quite a positive thing to do. Most of the critics will cream themselves the next time Afridi scores, and the match commentary thread will be prime evidence of that.

Ill be very happy if he makes runs, infact overjoyed... sad part is, he's recent form is abysmal which in turn harms the team when he doesnt contribute with the bat... he could make way for some youngsters to groom in his position but that doesnt happen because of the politics of the game as in Shoiab Maliks case too.... The Crtitcs are right with this case though, Afridi aint doing much in the team even after soo many chances, how long do we have to wait til he makes a decent score? can you remember the last time he made a 50 in any form of the game?
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Old 27th October 2008, 12:59
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uff stop googling random words... even Afridi wouldnt want you to talk that way...ya heard
neb·u·lous (nby-ls)
adj.
1. Cloudy, misty, or hazy.
2. Lacking definite form


Actually i think it describes afridi perfectly!!!!
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Old 27th October 2008, 13:01
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neb·u·lous (nby-ls)
adj.
1. Cloudy, misty, or hazy.
2. Lacking definite form


Actually i think it describes afridi perfectly!!!!
ya thanks for Teh GooglezFHGHGH122131!!

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Old 27th October 2008, 13:06
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could someone post the bowling stats of afridi in the last two years but kindly remove his performances against bangladesh and zimbabwe. even my mother in law can get few wickets against bangladesh and zimbabwe. everytime i saw afridi bowling against india, he never looked threatening. he was only getting slaughtered by our batsmen.

Oi, you stole my nick
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Old 27th October 2008, 13:08
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Old 27th October 2008, 13:08
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But he's the most popular Pakistani player ever according to the only opinion poll I know about the subject.

Great or not, he'll be remembered more than most of our players. He's the only one who gets everyone on their feet, including players (Eng Vs Pak last year in tests) and lift the roof off the stadium. He's a legend.
anyone who says afridi is more popular than imran should be first slapped with a size 10 Bata chappal and then lynched in public.
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Old 27th October 2008, 13:10
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anyone who says afridi is more popular than imran should be first slapped with a size 10 Bata chappal and then lynched in public.
the Bata chappal should be soaked in boiling oil first
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Old 28th October 2008, 01:39
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anyone who says afridi is more popular than imran should be first slapped with a size 10 Bata chappal and then lynched in public.
buddy, you gotta win the argument instead of going offensive, i agree Imran was a much better player than Afridi, but if you talk about popularity and fan following then Afridi stands on top.
Even Waqar Younis mentioned that so many time "Afridi's got biggest fan club in Pakistan"
Rameez Raja says "he scores a first ball duck or a century i just love to watch him play"
he is the only crowd puller and super start we have right now in the team, may be if Shoaib Akhtar gets fit then he can also be called super start again.

Edit: Super Star (not super start)

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Exactly Sam's, and it's not as if this is just opinion - the only actual poll that I'm aware of on the subject revealed the same: Afridi is the most popular cricketer in Pakistan ever.
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Afridi can't bat anymore. Hasn't done **** for while with the bat.

His bowling is average. He can't run through any decent sides and his figures against good teams are similiar in the lines of 10-0-50-1. Nothing special about him. His fielding isn't great either. Here's what the question comes down to, do we continue with an average spinner in the defensive mindset that he'll eventually get some runs or give saeed ajmal a long run in the team because he has been pretty good against India in couple of games he's played.

As far as entertaiment value is concerned, Umar Gul can provide you with a 5 ball 6
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Afridi can't bat anymore. Hasn't done **** for while with the bat.

His bowling is average. He can't run through any decent sides and his figures against good teams are similiar in the lines of 10-0-50-1. Nothing special about him. His fielding isn't great either. Here's what the question comes down to, do we continue with an average spinner in the defensive mindset that he'll eventually get some runs or give saeed ajmal a long run in the team because he has been pretty good against India in couple of games he's played.

As far as entertaiment value is concerned, Umar Gul can provide you with a 5 ball 6
I would go with Ajmal for the WI series. To me as a bowler Afridi was just a stopgap option(fairly decent one) but now we have Ajmal who showed in the Asia cup that he deserves at least 5-10 ODIs.

Afridi would still walk in to the T20 team though and ideally i would like to have him in my ODI team as well but not as a spinner.
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Blind fans Sleep Afridi
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Blind fans Sleep Afridi
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Blind fans K.O Afridi

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these idiotic terms are not making your image any better, i told you earlier too, you gotta win the argument!
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these idiotic terms are not making your image any better, i told you earlier too, you gotta win the argument!
Since, no effect on Blind fans. No chance of argument. Blind player lack maturity, sensible, temperament , but whom am i kidding?
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Since, no effect on Blind fans. No chance of argument. Blind player lack maturity, sensible, temperament , but whom am i kidding?
Look who's losing temperament here
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Look who's losing temperament here
i am? If i prove you wrong, then the result at the end sounds the same like Afridi never get out on duck in your world or perhaps, you pretend that Afridi didn't get out on duck in embarrassing display. Speaking of temperament, either Blind or Blind fans should be last person to talk about temperament.

That's correct. I am losing temperament, but why? Because of Afridi pathetic moronic, irresponsible, unprofessional, experienced, but maniac to throw wicket away like, and should i go on? It's just why i am not losing temperament with the rest of cricketers as compared to Afridi? Quick question for you !
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Why is it that Afridi is targeted whenever a thread about Pakistan cricket is started? I am not saying this as a loyal Afridi fan because that would be me showcasing a completely biased point of view. I am stating this opinion of mine based on the countless time I have noticed Afridi being bashed pointlessly and it tends to get redundant after a while.

I absolutely agree that Afridi has become pretty much a tailender in terms of his skill with the bat, and I highly dislike his approach towards batting, but that's his style and we shouldn't put him down for it. I would ultimately love to see him thrown out of the team if selection was based purely on his consitent failures with the bat. Although this is not the only reason he is selected, his bowling is better then almost all of the Pakistani bowlers except for perhaps Umar Gul, he is a prime wicket taker and has an aura about him whenever he is in the field to be more specific that cover/extra cover region he petrols.

I absolutely have been against people proposing him to be captain of the National team because this is a role only for the responsible and brave hearted. He sure is brave hearted I don't think anyone would argue against that claim, but responsibility is not Afridi's middle name and he isn't someone who commands a lot of respect in the dressing room. Afridi has the persona to be a great captain in domestic cricket because all the players under him are youngsters who are terrified of him, he doesn't have to deal with huge egos such as the Rawalpindi Express.

I feel bad for Afridi just for the plain fact that he is dragged into every failure of Pakistan cricket in someway or another, let's just leave the man alone and let him bowl other teams out.
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DM u keep saying that a poll said that Afridi is the most popular cricketer in pakistan ever, you need to understand that poll only takes into account only a limited number of votes not everyone who watches cricket... maybe 1000 people or 5000 people voted, not the entire pakistan population...

If there was a poll held in which all of pakistan population voted whos the most popular cricketer ever, Imran Khan would beat Afridi by a long margin
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Ask yourself why Afridi is targeted and not Younis, Yousuf and Misbah? Does that question sounds hard for you? Let me lighten on you. What is different between the actual blind and a cricketer like Afridi perform like blind?
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DM u keep saying that a poll said that Afridi is the most popular cricketer in pakistan ever, you need to understand that poll only takes into account only a limited number of votes not everyone who watches cricket... maybe 1000 people or 5000 people voted, not the entire pakistan population...

If there was a poll held in which all of pakistan population voted whos the most popular cricketer ever, Imran Khan would beat Afridi by a long margin


you can't be serious bro. Using your logic I can retort with:

"If there was a poll held in which all of the Pakistani population voted who's the most popular cricketer ever, Rao Iftikhar Anjum would beat Afridi by a long margin"

No evidence, pure and utter conjecture.

There is only ONE sample we do have for such a poll, and it shows that it's not Imran, nor Wasim, nor Waqar, but Afridi who's the most popular Pakistani cricketer ever.
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How far ago was this poll taken?
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Last year, Dawn poll
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I think he had a landslide 11 point lead by the end of it all. His slur campaign against Ifthikar Anjum did wonders.
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you can't be serious bro. Using your logic I can retort with:

"If there was a poll held in which all of the Pakistani population voted who's the most popular cricketer ever, Rao Iftikhar Anjum would beat Afridi by a long margin"

No evidence, pure and utter conjecture.

There is only ONE sample we do have for such a poll, and it shows that it's not Imran, nor Wasim, nor Waqar, but Afridi who's the most popular Pakistani cricketer ever.
Im friggin serious, you can't base something like this on a mere poll taken by Dawn... majority of the population would go with Imran khan trust me, the guy got us the world cup, he's the best allrounder Pakistans ever had or will ever have and many believe he's the best allrounder the game has seen....

Afridi hasn't done much up till now and i no way compares with the achievements of Imran Khan.. my logic is right, your logic is blind logic, you just cant get past the obsession of Afridi being all that when he isnt
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Exactly Sam's, and it's not as if this is just opinion - the only actual poll that I'm aware of on the subject revealed the same: Afridi is the most popular cricketer in Pakistan ever.
What poll, by some crap newspaper? Afridi fans are deluded if they think Afridi is more popular than Imran. Every cricketer in Pakistan inspires to be Imran, no one in their right mind would want to emulate the underachiever Afridi.
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Hes job in team is as an all-rounder! That means peforming all aspects of game. Afridi fans are just using his decentish bowling form as a final clutch to justify his inclusion.

The way most fans afridi talk about him is usually in a delusion or childish manner pretty much like the players mindset it!

Cant wait till he gets dropped or retires then me may get some Decent cricket conversation rather than the usual delusion stuffwe have to put up with!
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Hes job in team is as an all-rounder! That means peforming all aspects of game. Afridi fans are just using his decentish bowling form as a final clutch to justify his inclusion.

The way most fans afridi talk about him is usually in a delusion or childish manner pretty much like the players mindset it!

Cant wait till he gets dropped or retires then me may get some Decent cricket conversation rather than the usual delusion stuffwe have to put up with!

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head there. Brilliant post AJ
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Afridi just hit form with the bat........

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/e...ch/374327.html

Afridi vs Akhtar..... one hell of a competition I hope to see someday, fastest baller vs fastest batsmen, what makes it more interesting is both can get out any time lol........
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Afridi just hit form with the bat........

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/e...ch/374327.html

Afridi vs Akhtar..... one hell of a competition I hope to see someday, fastest baller vs fastest batsmen, what makes it more interesting is both can get out any time lol........
OH AMAZING!!!

Just seen this innings, or as I'm going to call it, SINNINGS!

And it's not certain but it looks like absolutely crucified Akhtar!

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Im friggin serious, you can't base something like this on a mere poll taken by Dawn...
Ok then I'll choose your one opinion over an opinion poll, which takes a sample of multiple opinions ;)
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Ok then I'll choose your one opinion over an opinion poll, which takes a sample of multiple opinions ;)

haha its soo funny, truth hurts doesnt it
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OH AMAZING!!!

Just seen this innings, or as I'm going to call it, SINNINGS!

And it's not certain but it looks like absolutely crucified Akhtar!

Well one of those weird situations, it doesn't matter who wins or looses, both are my favorite lol....... was it on TV? I hope someone can post it.
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Blind fans Sleep Afridi
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S.U.C.K. Brillant !
Bro that was the lamest sh** ever.

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Hes job in team is as an all-rounder! That means peforming all aspects of game. Afridi fans are just using his decentish bowling form as a final clutch to justify his inclusion.

The way most fans afridi talk about him is usually in a delusion or childish manner pretty much like the players mindset it!

Cant wait till he gets dropped or retires then me may get some Decent cricket conversation rather than the usual delusion stuffwe have to put up with!
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ok so we agree he is a bowler who slogs then?

still needs to be in the team
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