Bangladesh tour of South Africa

[Amjid Javed]

Bangladesh play 2 Tests, 3 ODIS and one 20/20 in South Africa. Bangladesh did show a slight sign of improvement in the series against New zealand but conditions are going to be tough for them. I think tours like this really need to be used by Bangladesh to really show improvement. No one expects them to win any of the games but they need to be more Competative! More application and Guts and less of the Gun-Ho approach!

I guess South Africas batsmen and bowlers will be just looking to fill there boots with runs and wickets!

[161]

Bangladesh all out already

Is Steyn healthy ?

Will RSA bring there top pace attack ?

If so .. well ... there will be some very short matches.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by kashif77 Bangladesh all out already Is Steyn healthy ? Will RSA bring there top pace attack ? If so .. well ... there will be some very short matches.

S.A are strong at home but even west indies managed to beat them in 1 test match. so maybe a lil ray of hope for Bangladesh!

Steyn should be fit for the test matches!

[Big Harvey]

If SA are at anything like full strength, I'll be surprised if either Test lasts even 3 days. WI did win a Test in SA, but they played way better in that game than I've ever seen Bangladesh play.

[BD-fan]

All I am looking forward to is improvement and consistency. Winnings a session would be hard work. The only remote chance we have is in the T20. The ODIs we may compete for 10/15 overs but that is all I can expect. As long as we are not allout below 100, I should not complain.

[SAM'S]

what magic wand Bangladesh board has got?
they just got done with full tour of New Zealand and now they have a full away tour to South Africa.
While deserving nations are starving for cricket and minnows are enjoying full tours, is this ICC's fault?

[BD-fan]

Originally Posted by SAM'S what magic wand Bangladesh board has got? they just got done with full tour of New Zealand and now they have a full away tour to South Africa. While deserving nations are starving for cricket and minnows are enjoying full tours, is this ICC's fault?

There is no magic wand bro. Internal politics needs to be fixed. Do not blame ICC either. Australia is the one who canceled the full tour. WI shifted site and now don't want to play test. Unless people in Pakistan is united (Hard task) things will remain status quo. I fear 2011 WC.

[bdchamp20]

Originally Posted by SAM'S what magic wand Bangladesh board has got? they just got done with full tour of New Zealand and now they have a full away tour to South Africa.

Its called the FTP. At the end of this ICC program every full Test team will tour and host every other Test team twice. We played no Tests in 2006 and played ODIs against only Zimbabwe and Kenya. And now it's our turn to play real cricket and that's why we have a packed schedule till 2009.

While deserving nations are starving for cricket and minnows are enjoying full tours, is this ICC's fault

Thats just bulls**t. its not ICC's fault that your board can't arrange cricket for your team to play. Stop expecting the ICC to spoon-feed you and ask your chairman to do something useful instead of sitting on his back side and making ridiculous statements day after day.

[Cheguvera]

Its both ICC and PCB....what's the fricking use of ICC if it can't even coordinate and regulate FTP...freaking Windies is going to NZ for a third time in last five years...while Pakistan has only been their once in the last 6 years....

Pak hasn't played a series with Bangers since 2003...


India plays with Bangers, SL and Aus two freakin series a year...

ICC has to step in and stop this over saturation amongst certain countries and stop absolute dry schedule in other cases...

[Mohsin]

They'll get thrashed in all the matches. Luckily for them Smith isnt playing in the T20 match so that'll limit the score just a little bit for South Africa.

ODI: 3-0 SA
Test: 2-0 SA
T20: SA win by 8 wickets

[SalaamPakistan]

Originally Posted by SAM'S what magic wand Bangladesh board has got? they just got done with full tour of New Zealand and now they have a full away tour to South Africa. While deserving nations are starving for cricket and minnows are enjoying full tours, is this ICC's fault?

Bangladesh fans have been starved for cricket so long. But they never whined like you are now. The bold statement was unexpected.

The reason why Pakistan is not getting no cricket because Altaf was supposed to show up during the FTA meeting which he missed, and therefore, has been finalised by ICC.

The moral of the story; SHOW UP AT THE MEETING IF WE WANT CRICKET

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by SalaamPakistan Bangladesh fans have been starved for cricket so long. But they never whined like you are now. The bold statement was unexpected. The reason why Pakistan is not getting no cricket because Altaf was supposed to show up during the FTA meeting which he missed, and therefore, has been finalised by ICC. The moral of the story; SHOW UP AT THE MEETING IF WE WANT CRICKET

What the freck is ICC's job then...

[SalaamPakistan]

Nothing. It was Altaf who should have tried to discuss with several cricket boards and organize some cricket tournament. ICC job is to finalize them on FTP

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by SalaamPakistan Nothing. It was Altaf who should have tried to discuss with several cricket boards and organize some cricket tournament. ICC job is to finalize them on FTP

That's not good enough...ICC should regulate the FTP to make sure there is a balance...It is due to this unchecked bilateral approach leaving it to the boards to approach each other, that we see the farce that FTP is these days...

If ICC can't do at least this much then it should dissolve itself and let BCCI run the show...

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Cheguvera That's not good enough...ICC should regulate the FTP to make sure there is a balance...It is due to this unchecked bilateral approach leaving it to the boards to approach each other, that we see the farce that FTP is these days... If ICC can't do at least this much then it should dissolve itself and let BCCI run the show...

The ICC has no power to compel one country to play another in cricket

[itduzz]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie The ICC has no power to compel one country to play another in cricket

wats the point of having ICC & FTPs....I thought FTP guarantees that every team plays each other home and away twice in a given FTP.

[TruSachFan]

Originally Posted by itduzz wats the point of having ICC & FTPs....I thought FTP guarantees that every team plays each other home and away twice in a given FTP.

Well if your broken ferraris and nandrolover weren't involved in so much controversies every once in a while, then maybe your board would find some time to organize tours.

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by TruSachFan Well if your broken ferraris and nandrolover weren't involved in so much controversies every once in a while, then maybe your board would find some time to organize tours.

Nahi yaara...at least PCB doesn't have to worry about Sachin still playing past 70 years of age...and the impeding disaster to the Indian psyche when he dies....there might be call for him to be embalmed and be part of the playing eleven even after he is dead...

Nor does it have to worry about scheduling yet another series against the lankans, bangers, zims or kenyans to prop up its players' averages...

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie The ICC has no power to compel one country to play another in cricket

Then it has no business ranking countries in Test nor ODIs...cause the whole basis i.e. FTP on which the ranking system works is a fraud ...

[TruSachFan]

Originally Posted by Cheguvera Nahi yaara...at least PCB doesn't have to worry about Sachin still playing past 70 years of age...and the impeding disaster to the Indian psyche when he dies....there might be call for him to be embalmed and be part of the playing eleven even after he is dead... Nor does it have to worry about scheduling yet another series against the lankans, bangers, zims or kenyans to prop up its players' averages...

You're right about sachin. PCB doesn' t have to worry about him because he plays for India not for pakistan. Too bad these days even the lankans are refusing to tour you!! You only wish you can play test matches even against the likes of Zimbabwes, and kenyans,etc.

Btw, India has never played a Test match against kenya ever. The last time they played a Odi against each other was in 2004.
Last time india played zimbabwe in a test match and Odiers was in 2005. And bangladesh, well everyone plays them so its no big deal.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Cheguvera Then it has no business ranking countries in Test nor ODIs...cause the whole basis i.e. FTP on which the ranking system works is a fraud ...

Well blame the countries (of which Pakistan is one) that refused to give the ICC that power.

But having seen how the ICC "works" I don't blame them for not giving it any more powers.

The blame for Pakistan not having cricket sits squarely with the PCB (aside from security issues which they have no power over) - you see it even now, the other nations have their schedule set years in advance, PCB are trying organise matches for 6 or less months away.

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by TruSachFan You're right about sachin. PCB doesn' t have to worry about him because he plays for India not for pakistan. Too bad these days even the lankans are refusing to tour you!! You only wish you can play test matches even against the likes of Zimbabwes, and kenyans,etc. Btw, India has never played a Test match against kenya ever. The last time they played a Odi against each other was in 2004. Last time india played zimbabwe in a test match and Odiers was in 2005. And bangladesh, well everyone plays them so its no big deal.

Yeah Sachin must be in mourning that he doesn't get to play the hapless kenya anymore since he has like 20 odi century against them...

[Cheguvera]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Well blame the countries (of which Pakistan is one) that refused to give the ICC that power. But having seen how the ICC "works" I don't blame them for not giving it any more powers. The blame for Pakistan not having cricket sits squarely with the PCB (aside from security issues which they have no power over) - you see it even now, the other nations have their schedule set years in advance, PCB are trying organise matches for 6 or less months away.

The blame may lie with Pakistan....but even when pakistan did not have security issues and even when it had the top team in the world, they didn't play as frequently either at home or abroad as did India....

there is definitely an elitist old boys attitude governing the bilateral and/or test match scheduling....India, Aus, Eng and WI have been the established countries and they have tended to favor each other...even when windies were getting thrashed by all and sundry whitewashed or brownwashed right and left, they were still playing 5 test match series....

even now if the scheduling is left to individual countries then it should not have any bearing on either international ranking nor the performances be counted as true measure of individual players...the dynamics are similar to what existed when Saffers didn't play colored teams and Aus played most of their cricket against Eng...India is now willing to play as much cricket as possible for money but mostly against Aus, so they aer the new Eng...Pakistan is now the new colored team that no White team is willing to play for whatever reason...there is no continuity nor uniformity nor consistency...test cricket has now been reduced to nothing but a contest between two teams, it has no broader perspective nor a measure of performance beyond any two countries....

[SAM'S]

Originally Posted by SalaamPakistan Bangladesh fans have been starved for cricket so long. But they never whined like you are now. The bold statement was unexpected. The reason why Pakistan is not getting no cricket because Altaf was supposed to show up during the FTA meeting which he missed, and therefore, has been finalised by ICC. The moral of the story; SHOW UP AT THE MEETING IF WE WANT CRICKET

if they are starved for cricket then they should play against other minnows & associates instead of playing against full strength teams and showing absolutely no contest whatsoever.
whats the point of having useless one sided series when equally matched & contesting team is available to play cricket?

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by SAM'S if they are starved for cricket then they should play against other minnows & associates instead of playing against full strength teams and showing absolutely no contest whatsoever. whats the point of having useless one sided series when equally matched & contesting team is available to play cricket?

Possibly because equally matched and contesting team is run by bunch of gadhas who nobody in the cricket world likes dealing with.

[Keith]

Steyn is fit and will take part in the opening t20!!!!

The odi side will be a "building side" for the future. Saffers have decided to start from scratch in the odi arena and have decided to blood youngsters which they feel will represent sa at the next world cup. Hence names like botha, duminy, morkel bro's, etc will be able to stake their claims.

[Sheikh]

The South African A side would destroy Bangladesh.

It's going to be an absolute mauling.

[HuZi]

any channel showing this match of today?

[bdchamp20]

Originally Posted by SAM'S if they are starved for cricket then they should play against other minnows & associates instead of playing against full strength teams and showing absolutely no contest whatsoever. whats the point of having useless one sided series when equally matched & contesting team is available to play cricket?

There is no equal strength team for Bangladesh. If we play Zimbabwe or Ireland we'll beat them 5-0 and if we play the weakest T8 team(West Indies or New Zealand) we'll lose 5-0(or 4-1).

[bdchamp20]

Originally Posted by HuZi any channel showing this match of today?

Sky Sports