Suicide Bomber Kills 30 during Jummah Prayer

[161]

Another brainwashed kid kills dozens of innocents in the name of Allah.

How do stop it ?

Stop the brainwashing maybe ?



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/...as/as_pakistan

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – A government official says an attack on a northwestern Pakistan mosque was carried out by a suicide bomber and that the death toll has hit 30.

Upper Dir district coordination officer Atif-ur-Rehman says scores more were wounded in the blast during Friday prayers.

The attack is part of a wave of violence along the Afghan border in recent days just as the army says it is close to defeating Taliban militants in the Swat Valley.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the mosque blast.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below

[the Great Khan]

Heretics!!! How can you kill those people worshipping Allah swt in Allahs house on Allahs special day?? No these scum are not worthy of anything but the sword and vengeance of Allah swt...
May Allah grant the dead shahadat and a place in janat!! My curse on the people who have done this and supported it!!

[MalikMohsin]

That is guaranteed for sure Allah will never spare them for killing people during the Jummah Prayer while praying.

It is good to hear that the soldiers are very close to defeat the Taliban militants. Demolish the Taliban militants will do good for both Pakistan and India.

[lahori]

Truly sad.

I wonder when Hussain0216 will show up on this thread claiming its the Americans' fault.

[Momo]

Originally Posted by kashif77 Another brainwashed kid kills dozens of innocents in the name of Allah. How to stop it ? Stop the brainwashing maybe ?

Inna lillahi wa inna ileihi rajioon.

How to stop it:

1. Somehow get the US out of the area. Of course they won't leave Afghanistan in a hurry and in that case, at least stop cooperating with them logistically/militarily/intelligence wise. Do it politely and tell them that they are very good people; it's just that we are not quite worthy of the privilege of their friendship.

2. Make it clear to everybody (by action not words) that we are not puppets of US.

3. Pull Pakistan Army out of all 'war zones'.

4. Address grievances of people especially people from smaller provinces and FATA/PATA etc.

5. Cut the Pakistan Army down to size, cut their budget down to 20% of the present and start auditing them.

6. Spend that 80% (saved above) on education. Make education free (and mandatory) for everybody.

7. Stop labeling anybody not on board the US propaganda bandwagon a terrorist supporter etc and stop treating religious people with contempt.

8. Rely on political/tribal forces in 'trouble' areas to counter terrorism.

9. Take out hardcore terrorists/recruiters etc intelligently and not by bombing the hell out of an entire area (giving the recruiters more recruits with every such strike). Remember it's 'collateral damage' for US because it's not US citizens getting killed out there. For us it is NOT collateral damage. They are our own people. Our own brothers and sisters.

How not to stop it:

Well, do the reverse of 1-9 above. In other words continue doing what you are doing now, and you will successfully get news such as the above on a weekly/daily basis.

[Keith]

RIP those poor departed souls. Condolences to the families and friends of those slain in this most cowardly act of bastardness. May the perpetrator and more importantly the "brains" behind the action burn in hell for eternity. You have brought shame upon yourselves and your families by killing innocent victims whilst they were conducting their prayers. Vicious cowards.

[MIG]

Inna Lillahi Wa inna Illahi Rajiyoon

May ALLAH accept our departed brothers to Janat-al-Fridous and punish the perperators of this murder!

May ALLAH provide Aazab to the trainers, instigators and supporters of these murderers - Ameen

May ALLAH help the survivors and their families in this time of need - Ameen

[PlanetPakistan]

Inna lillahi wa inna ileihi rajioon.

There are far too many of these.

[PlanetPakistan]

Originally Posted by Momo Inna lillahi wa inna ileihi rajioon. How to stop it: 1. Somehow get the US out of the area. Of course they won't leave Afghanistan in a hurry and in that case, at least stop cooperating with them logistically/militarily/intelligence wise. Do it politely and tell them that they are very good people; it's just that we are not quite worthy of the privilege of their friendship. 2. Make it clear to everybody (by action not words) that we are not puppets of US. 3. Pull Pakistan Army out of all 'war zones'. 4. Address grievances of people especially people from smaller provinces and FATA/PATA etc. 5. Cut the Pakistan Army down to size, cut their budget down to 20% of the present and start auditing them. 6. Spend that 80% (saved above) on education. Make education free (and mandatory) for everybody. 7. Stop labeling anybody not on board the US propaganda bandwagon a terrorist supporter etc and stop treating religious people with contempt. 8. Rely on political/tribal forces in 'trouble' areas to counter terrorism. 9. Take out hardcore terrorists/recruiters etc intelligently and not by bombing the hell out of an entire area (giving the recruiters more recruits with every such strike). Remember it's 'collateral damage' for US because it's not US citizens getting killed out there. For us it is NOT collateral damage. They are our own people. Our own brothers and sisters. How not to stop it: Well, do the reverse of 1-9 above. In other words continue doing what you are doing now, and you will successfully get news such as the above on a weekly/daily basis.

Agree but its easier said than done.

what do you exactly mean by "intelligently"

[lakha84]

10: make me the PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN
on a serious note innalillah hi wa innaillahi rajioon

[Momo]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan Agree but its easier said than done. what do you exactly mean by "intelligently"

Yes it's difficult. More so considering our leadership. That's why I am not too optimistic it is going to be done any time soon.

But I sincerely believe we will only get out of this mess by going through a difficult and painstaking process. If not today, then may be after a few years. But it will be a long and tedious thing. It won't happen as a result of yet another short-cut, yet another expedient solution, yet another 'doctrine of necessity' based thought (essentially the things that brought us here in the first place).

By intelligently I mean using intelligence of both kinds. I don't mind blowing these hardened criminals up, as long as a sledge-hammer is not used to kill a fly.

[max]

we have all these suggestion but no one (either in PP or the so-called free Pakistani media) has the balls to say that these killers are produced by the whabi/deobandi madrasah network and its that we have shut down.

Just imagine if this was a Christian group bombing this mosque and we knew where they are taught that ideology, what will the government and people will do to that facility?

[Javelin]

These killers have supporters and backers, - it is these vermin that needs to be rooted out and exterminated.

Something to understand though. There are a lot of different types of vermin out there, each with their own agenda's.

Those responsible for taking the lives of these innocent worshippers are almost certainly using different 'twisted logic' to convince the actual bombers to go out and blow themselves up, compared to some other recent bombings. They have different agenda's and aims than those, say, who have set off the recent bombs in Lahore.

The Lahore bombers are using the SWAT offensive as a ***-for-Tat excuse.

This lot is sectarian, and using the "My version of Islam is correct and yours is not" as the excuse. That is the ONLY way someone claiming to be a 'Muslim' can be brainwashed into going and blowing up innocent worshippers inside a Mosque.

(And that is why Forum members need to be very very careful when posting comments in other threads, where there is even a hint of "My version of Islam is correct and yours is not", for that is how the seeds are laid where the ultimate result may end being extremists of one sect or another committing such horrendous and murderous acts)

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by max we have all these suggestion but no one (either in PP or the so-called free Pakistani media) has the balls to say that these killers are produced by the whabi/deobandi madrasah network and its that we have shut down. Just imagine if this was a Christian group bombing this mosque and we knew where they are taught that ideology, what will the government and people will do to that facility?

There we go again. Using that kind of inflamatory language against the followers of a different sect.
And what will be the result?
'my version of Islam is better than yours' language, leading to extremism, on both sides, with 'You hit my mosque, I hit yours' kind of results.

There are good and bad on both sides --- don't tar everyone with the same brush.

[T20]

MOMO has no brain only few fingures with verbal diarrhea..
he thinks the only solution for servivel of pakistan is to turn Pakistan military into nothing but a police force par with our Police.. little does he know if he understands US NEW WORLD ORDER their ultimate ambission is to turn all Muslim Forces into lil musket army and cutting down PAK ARmy into small bites will only result in more Isreal-palestine like setuations.. by that time it wont matter much to you because you are living a comfort life in TOK. POK Kashmir will be gone, NWFP will be either part of AFganistan or a new state like Baloch, sindh, even if pakistanis wont want that to happen but INdia US will make sure it does happen...

[Keith]

Originally Posted by T20 MOMO has no brain only few fingures with verbal diarrhea.. he thinks the only solution for servivel of pakistan is to turn Pakistan military into nothing but a police force par with our Police.. little does he know if he understands US NEW WORLD ORDER their ultimate ambission is to turn all Muslim Forces into lil musket army and cutting down PAK ARmy into small bites will only result in more Isreal-palestine like setuations.. by that time it wont matter much to you because you are living a comfort life in TOK. POK Kashmir will be gone, NWFP will be either part of AFganistan or a new state like Baloch, sindh, even if pakistanis wont want that to happen but INdia US will make sure it does happen...

Oh no, you didn't just say that did you ......

Why the personal attack? Surely we can embark in a lively debate without getting personal?

Kinda makes your whole argument look silly. I, for 1, will not look at any further posts of yours with any sort of insight other than a childish outburst of a 10 year old.

[zimmz]

Inna lillahi wa inna ileihi rajioon.

May the stooge bomber and his masters rot in the hell.

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by kashif77 Another brainwashed kid kills dozens of innocents in the name of Allah.

Originally Posted by max no one (either in PP or the so-called free Pakistani media) has the balls to say that these killers are produced by the whabi/deobandi madrasah network and its that we have shut down.

How do you guys assume that the bomber was wahabi/deobandi/suni/shia or muslim at all? Can you people give a slight consideration to the possibility of bomber being athiest, christian or from any other religion, who is just sold out for an amount of money or other reasons?

Is the brain of deobandi any different from other humans so that only he can be brain washed an not others?

[DHONI183]

إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ
^Verily, unto Allah do we belong and, verily, unto Him we shall return^

Exetremely sad...........

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by Momo How to stop it: 1. Somehow get the US out of the area. Of course they won't leave Afghanistan in a hurry and in that case, at least stop cooperating with them logistically/militarily/intelligence wise. Do it politely and tell them that they are very good people; it's just that we are not quite worthy of the privilege of their friendship. 2. Make it clear to everybody (by action not words) that we are not puppets of US. 3. Pull Pakistan Army out of all 'war zones'. 4. Address grievances of people especially people from smaller provinces and FATA/PATA etc. 5. Cut the Pakistan Army down to size, cut their budget down to 20% of the present and start auditing them. 6. Spend that 80% (saved above) on education. Make education free (and mandatory) for everybody. 7. Stop labeling anybody not on board the US propaganda bandwagon a terrorist supporter etc and stop treating religious people with contempt. 8. Rely on political/tribal forces in 'trouble' areas to counter terrorism. 9. Take out hardcore terrorists/recruiters etc intelligently and not by bombing the hell out of an entire area (giving the recruiters more recruits with every such strike). Remember it's 'collateral damage' for US because it's not US citizens getting killed out there. For us it is NOT collateral damage. They are our own people. Our own brothers and sisters. How not to stop it: Well, do the reverse of 1-9 above. In other words continue doing what you are doing now, and you will successfully get news such as the above on a weekly/daily basis.

This.

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan what do you exactly mean by "intelligently"

Opposite of 'using brain' aka bush/musharaf style???

Our budget is feeding our intelligence agencies for what?

Some hints for you:

1. Counter the agencies who are funding and arming these bombers/fighters

2. Buy these 'brain washed' kids from their ranks, make them agents.

3. With the help of 2, find out the exact source of arms and income.

4. Find their leaders.

5. Use diplomacy/politics at international level to expose these culprit agencies.

6. Convince USA to build fence at Pak-afghan border and that's about all we should do for them, no more! Otherwise tell them to **** off! we will handle it on our own terms.

and many more ways... Only if our leaders and generals were sincere enough.

[max]

Like I said no one has the guts. Where have the talibans been indoctrinated, in a Christian church or a sufi mazar? get real guys and get that head out of the sand.

zimmz, Its not the whabi brain its the madrasah where its brainwashed is the issue. Let me get this straight, an atheist, would commit suicide to kill people in a mosque by taking money (which btw, he will have no use since he is DEAD). With arguments like these, your other valid points will be ignored.

Javelin, Please don't put words in my mouth. I am not comparing sects on who is better. I am pointing to the madrasah where killers are trained.

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by max zimmz, Its not the whabi brain its the madrasah where its brainwashed is the issue.

So madrasah can only brainwashed wahabis? And only a madrash can brainwash an human?

Originally Posted by max Let me get this straight, an atheist, would commit suicide to kill people in a mosque by taking money (which btw, he will have no use since he is DEAD). With arguments like these, your other valid points will be ignored.

You do realize that perhaps money goes to their poor families?

Again you think only muslims can be brainwashed? Only they can be suicide bombers? Were Japanies suicide pilots chanting Allah Akbar in world wars? Were tamil tigers suicide bombers chanting Allah Akbar?
Did they get brainwashed in Pakistani madrassah?

[the Great Khan]

To those advocating small scale special ops..these will now be carried out as required with smaller units and services...the reason the current op was carried out was:

The scum were dug in

They were given succour by certain elements on both sides of the border

The army failed in it's first op

The army needed political and public support

The terrain makes the use of small numbers of Ssg impractical, they would be slaughtered

[BD-fan]

We belong to you and we will return to you.

May those soul rest in peace.

+++
One can not stop this by force. Change of mentality happens when true Islam is preached. As Omaba mentioned, the Holy Quran says, you kill a person unjustly, it is as if you have killed the entire mankind. You save a person, you just have saved the entire mankind.

Preaching true Islam falls on our shoulder. Every muslims. We are falling short miserably. We have to go back to the holy book, understand and implement what is being said.

[max]

Originally Posted by zimmz So madrasah can only brainwashed wahabis? And only a madrash can brainwash an human? You do realize that perhaps money goes to their poor families? Again you think only muslims can be brainwashed? Only they can be suicide bombers? Were Japanies suicide pilots chanting Allah Akbar in world wars? Were tamil tigers suicide bombers chanting Allah Akbar? Did they get brainwashed in Pakistani madrassah?

Your hypothesis does not match the reality on what is going in Pakistan. Question goes back to where are these killers indoctrinated and where is this ideology formed, i.e. whabi/deobandi madrasah

[mamoo gogo]

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raajeeoon...

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by max Your hypothesis does not match the reality on what is going in Pakistan. Question goes back to where are these killers indoctrinated and where is this ideology formed, i.e. whabi/deobandi madrasah

I am sure we crossed the paths regarding 'wahabi/deobandi ideology' very recently. Stop going in circles!

[Hasan]

How to stop it:

1. Somehow get the US out of the area. Of course they won't leave Afghanistan in a hurry and in that case, at least stop cooperating with them logistically/militarily/intelligence wise. Do it politely and tell them that they are very good people; it's just that we are not quite worthy of the privilege of their friendship.

Mosques, churches and other places of worship were being bombed longer before the US arrived. And I am not sure how does the presences of the US forces in Afganistan justify the cold blooded murder of fellow muslims? The problem is more to do with the ideology of the militants that kill fellow muslims (who have nothing to do with the US policy). Its equivilent to blaming the mugging victim for being in the locality of the mugger. Yes, the US should not be in Afganistan, but that is no reason that muslims should kill fellow muslims.

[/QUOTE]2. Make it clear to everybody (by action not words) that we are not puppets of US.

We are and always have been subject to US control and in return US has made it possible for Pakistan to continusely live way beyond its means. US funds Pakistan and in return we become an agent of their foreign policy. When and if Pakistan can stand on its own to feet then it would be possible to seek independence from the US, but until then its best not to bite the hand that feeds you. Even today, Pakistan pays its bill because the IMF lends further funds to Pakistan, otherwise Pakistan would have long defaulted. 3. Pull Pakistan Army out of all 'war zones'. And let the militants use it as a base to destablise the entire nation. Remember that this is the offical Pakistani Army, they can and should go where ever the security of Pakistan is under threat. There should be no exclusion zone for the Pakistani army within Pakistan.

4. Address grievances of people especially people from smaller provinces and FATA/PATA etc.[QUOTE]
Agreed - power and resources of Pakistan need to be more equally shared by all provinces and ethnic groups within Pakistan.

5. Cut the Pakistan Army down to size, cut their budget down to 20% of the present and start auditing them.

Agreed, there is no use in entering into an arms race with India, they will bleed us dry (like the US did to USSR). Our armed forces need to be smaller, leaner and focused on putting out radical militant movements within Pakistan. The biggest threat to Pakistan is miltant Islamic groups and not india, and we do not need an army of million plus to fight this enemy.

6. Spend that 80% (saved above) on education. Make education free (and mandatory) for everybody.

Agreed, education is the means to enlightenment and to lift the clouds of intolerance and radicalism.

7. Stop labeling anybody not on board the US propaganda bandwagon a terrorist supporter etc and stop treating religious people with contempt.

Indeed, but to rationalise terrorist activities (by Pakistani militants against innocent Pakistan citizens) on the notion that it a reaction to US politices is equally silly. A clear understanding needs to be developed as to the cause and effect relationship. Just as not everyone against US policy is a terrorist, equally not all terrorism in Pakistan has to do with recent US policy. These radicals were being trained and brainwashed long before the war on terror, and Pakistan own government has played a significant role in their development. People assoicate with use of radical Islam ISI and past civil and military leaders need to be open and publically exposued and criticised.

8. Rely on political/tribal forces in 'trouble' areas to counter terrorism.

Yes and no. Local politicians should work to eliminate any forms of militancy in their area, however, when force is need this should be through the civil law enforcement agencies or the miliitary. Pakistan need to eliminate the concept of private armies.

9. Take out hardcore terrorists/recruiters etc intelligently and not by bombing the hell out of an entire area (giving the recruiters more recruits with every such strike). Remember it's 'collateral damage' for US because it's not US citizens getting killed out there. For us it is NOT collateral damage. They are our own people. Our own brothers and sisters.

Yes, Pakistan has to be proactive to address such activities. The signs of the current terrorism crisis where apparent in the 1990s but the government failed to nip this cancer in the bud. But, as with cancer, when it has spread you have to take the painful decision of cutting out not just be cancerous tissue but also surrounding clean tissue. it is wrong and painful, but sometimes a few are forced to make the scarifies for the greater good. And the great good today is that radicalism and terrorism has to be eliminated at all costs.

However, this should be a lesson for the future. No more radical madrassas, no more foreign funding of intolerant ideologies and no more establishment of private armies. Pakistan needs to return to its original ideals of an tolerant and open society based on Islamic values of respect for other peoples beliefs and no compulsion in religion. A country were a muslims is equal in status to a hindu, a punjabi is of equal in status to a mohajir and where the wealthy should not use the state institutions to their private advantage.

Pakistan has to adopt a carrot and stick approach to addressing this crisis, it is using the stick (and rightly so) but it also has to reward the people through jobs, educations and increased quality of life.

[Jamal Shah]

Originally Posted by Momo How to stop it: 1. Somehow get the US out of the area. .

Yes, when there was no US in the area in the 90s, Afghanistan used to be a model of peace and brotherly love. The various factions of mujaheddin used to hug each other all the time, and kiss each other on the cheeks too. In Pakistan, Sunnis and Shias didn't use to kill each other in mosques.

Now if only the US leaves the area, everyone will be one big happy family once again.

[CricVet]

What was the scale of Violence in Pak before Uncle's arrival?

[CricVet]

Pakistan's curse is illiteracy which is fueled by Feudal. That is the bottom line.

[Jamal Shah]

Originally Posted by CricVet Pakistan's curse is illiteracy which is fueled by Feudal. That is the bottom line.

That sums it up, really. Pakistan is and always has been the Feudal State - and therein lies the root of all its ills

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by max Javelin, Please don't put words in my mouth. I am not comparing sects on who is better. I am pointing to the madrasah where killers are trained.

I stand by what I have said.
You ARE comparing sects as to who is better. I am not a whabi or a deobandi, ..but they ARE sub-sects, 'schools of thought', or whatever designation you would like to put upon them. But by remarks such as

that these killers are produced by the whabi/deobandi madrasah network

You are generalising and including many people who are trying to do good for the children of the poor, and have nothing to do with these bombings.

I will also stand by something else I've said.

By using inflamatory language, you are just fanning the flames of sectarianism.
Many hotheads, when reading such remarks as yours, are liable to get riled up and attack innocents in many madrassah's throughout the land, thus causing even more pain and sufferring of the innocent.

I implore you to think carefully of the type of language you use - it does'nt solve any problems but it does give hotheads and extremists reason to think that if they retaliate, they have supporters in the wider community.

[Gujar]

Has this been reported on any major Pakistani news channels?

[Savak]

Why are we blaming the US for a suicide attack on fellow Muslims who were offering prayers in a mosque? I am sorry there is no excuse for this, US or no US, these ******** need to be wiped out from society. I fully support all millitary action against religious extremism, terrorism and murder. Get them before they get to anyone.

[max]

Originally Posted by Javelin I stand by what I have said. You ARE comparing sects as to who is better. I am not a whabi or a deobandi, ..but they ARE sub-sects, 'schools of thought', or whatever designation you would like to put upon them. But by remarks such as You are generalising and including many people who are trying to do good for the children of the poor, and have nothing to do with these bombings. I will also stand by something else I've said. By using inflamatory language, you are just fanning the flames of sectarianism. Many hotheads, when reading such remarks as yours, are liable to get riled up and attack innocents in many madrassah's throughout the land, thus causing even more pain and sufferring of the innocent. I implore you to think carefully of the type of language you use - it does'nt solve any problems but it does give hotheads and extremists reason to think that if they retaliate, they have supporters in the wider community.

I think that we are past the point for such nicies. Pakistan is on the brink if you have not noticed. Where are these killer (and yes that is what they are) indoctrinated?

If a whabi madrasah is not brain washing kids to go out and kill some one just because they have a different faith, it should continue and I support them considering the lack of a public education system.

It will be a shame if you are (and I hope not) defending a facility that is indoctrinating an ideology of hate and suffering and I will be blunt. If any madrasah (beravli/whabi/shia/deobandi/qiadiani) teaches that killing innocent people is ok, it should be eliminated (please use your imagination) and people running and funding them should be tried for inciting murder.

[CricVet]

Please stop blaming our angel uncle - the most innocent face in the world.

[OZGOD]

RIP to those who died, whose only fault was being in a holy house at at a time of prayer.

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by max I think that we are past the point for such nicies. Pakistan is on the brink if you have not noticed. Where are these killer (and yes that is what they are) indoctrinated? If a whabi madrasah is not brain washing kids to go out and kill some one just because they have a different faith, it should continue and I support them considering the lack of a public education system. It will be a shame if you are (and I hope not) defending a facility that is indoctrinating an ideology of hate and suffering and I will be blunt. If any madrasah (beravli/whabi/shia/deobandi/qiadiani) teaches that killing innocent people is ok, it should be eliminated (please use your imagination) and people running and funding them should be tried for inciting murder.

I am all for punishing the guilty.
If any of the 'maulvi's' in these institutions are preaching hate, sure, prosecute them. Use the full force of the Law. Throw the book at them. Lock them away in dungeons where there is no light.
But if you close these institutions down, what will you do with these poor children?
Why not simply replace the Preachers of Hate with more enlightened teachers - those that teach true Islam, the peaceful Islam, the compassionate Islam?
Find a way of keeping the good that these institution do, and eliminate the bad.
As they say, don't throw out the baby with the bath water!!!

[me_asim]

Inna lillahi wa inna ileihi rajioon.

[max]

Originally Posted by Javelin I am all for punishing the guilty. If any of the 'maulvi's' in these institutions are preaching hate, sure, prosecute them. Use the full force of the Law. Throw the book at them. Lock them away in dungeons where there is no light. But if you close these institutions down, what will you do with these poor children? Why not simply replace the Preachers of Hate with more enlightened teachers - those that teach true Islam, the peaceful Islam, the compassionate Islam? Find a way of keeping the good that these institution do, and eliminate the bad. As they say, don't throw out the baby with the bath water!!!

Sounds easy ! Good luck trying to get them registered.
We have to come up with solutions that do consider ground situation as this is Pakistan after all.

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by max Sounds easy ! Good luck trying to get them registered. We have to come up with solutions that do consider ground situation as this is Pakistan after all.

You would have been a perfect beurocrat for the British, during the time of the Raj. --- in helping them to enforce the policy of Divide and Rule.

[Khabri420]

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Elaihi Raajeeoon

[azfar wali]

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Elaihi Raajeeoon

[hussain_0216]

We are all complaining and this is truly a horrific act, the victims and the criminals will all face there lord on Judgment Day...


The violence was never this bad, until Pakistan was forced into fighting America's war, the slaughter was never this bad in the 1990's, Pakistan never made an enemy of its own people


Our Military never faced so much disrespect from our own people.





We are all talking about this bomber killing muslims, but the state of Pakistan & its military men have done just that for the last few months.

Killed thousands of muslims, and created a refugee crises where millions will suffer & thousands will die.



The U.S has killed more women & children in air raids then this and the secular deviants dont even want to condemn the U.S....



This mess has been created by us, we have been made into stooges and conned into taking some of the heat off the U.S in Afghanistan....



We have blood on our hands, what are we complaining about.