Split amongst Aussies team

[iafzal]

The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not understand what is going on in the team.

How can a respectable team like Australia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts.

It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed alliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. Ponting had planned to tell reporters what he can do if his players do not score but stopped himself at the last moment realizing he himself only scored 2 runs.

Not too long ago Qadir had told reporter that he saw Misbah and Malik having a long 4 hrs meeting with Clarke when they played 5 ODI series in Abu Dhabi. At that time no one knew what the meeting was all about but the latest performance has shed some light on it. It is now believed that Clarke had learned from the two masters (M&M) how to make your captain look like a dummy as well as get out cheaply while making the ball look unplayable. Clarke has just successfully unleashed his new skill in the 2nd test and the whole world is in tatters.

It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

[hussein]

Originally Posted by iafzal The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not unserstand what is going on in the team. How can a resepctable team like Austrialia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts. It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed and aliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. It did not also help that ponting was not able to score either. It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

With inherited players like Hauritz and Clarke

[shane]

Is this thread meant to be ironic or is the OP serious? If serious then you have to stop being so paranoid, it's really not healthy.

[kingusama92]

From now on... whenever a team loses I am going to say their must be a rift . Cause obviously no team can lose right?

Now watch if they make a great comeback tomorrow.. the rift stories will disappear as if they were never conjured up in the first place.

The Aussies got stuck into a poor situation where they had everything against them such as bad light with threatening overcast conditions and a fired up Flintoff roaring at them. Not to take anything away from Anderson and Broad who were equally mean with their bowling.

[Oxy]

I was thinking the same when heard about the Aus performance - replace PAK with AUS and the whole thing becomes a joke!

Man - we are HARSH on our team!

[AZ]

I've heard that Clarke has created a posse which is 100% anti-Ponting

[iafzal]

The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not understand what is going on in the team.

How can a respectable team like Australia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts.

It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed alliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. Ponting had planned to tell reporters what he can do if his players do not score but stopped himself at the last moment realizing he himself only scored 2 runs.

Not too long ago Qadir had told reporter that he saw Misbah and Malik having a long 4 hrs meeting with Clarke when they played 5 ODI series in Abu Dhabi. At that time no one knew what the meeting was all about but the latest performance has shed some light on it. It is now believed that Clarke had learned from the two masters (M&M) how to make your captain look like a dummy as well as get out cheaply while making the ball look unplayable. Clarke has just successfully unleashed his new skill in the 2nd test and the whole world is in tatters.

It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

[Oxy]

Are any Aussie forums creating threads like..

"Time for Ricky Ponting to retire'

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by iafzal The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not understand what is going on in the team. How can a respectable team like Australia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts. It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed alliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. Ponting had planned to tell reporters what he can do if his players do not score but stopped himself as he himself only scored 2 runs. Not too long ago Qadir had told reporter that he saw Misbah and Malik having a long 4 hrs meeting with Clarke when they played 5 ODI series in Abu Dhabi. At that time no one knew what the meeting was all about but the latest performance has shed some light on it. It is now believed that Clarke had learned from the two masters (M&M) how to make your captain look like a dummy as well as get out cheaply making the ball look unplayable. Clarke has just successfully unleash this new art in the 2nd test and the whole world in tatters. It is also widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered. It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

this is the same aussie team that nearly beat the english by an innings in cardiff ... this is the same ricky ponting who was lauded for his captaincy in the first test against england ... another poor post from a so called cricket watcher ... some of the things said on this forum beggars belief ... i really hope this is a bad joke cos if the op's serious then

[Usman Chadda]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut this is the same aussie team that nearly beat the english by an innings in cardiff ... this is the same ricky ponting who was lauded for his captaincy in the first test against england ... another poor post from a so called cricket watcher ... some of the things said on this forum beggars belief ... i really hope this is a bad joke cos if the op's serious then

Sarcasm missed by a country mile

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut this is the same aussie team that nearly beat the english by an innings in cardiff ... this is the same ricky ponting who was lauded for his captaincy in the first test against england ... another poor post from a so called cricket watcher ... some of the things said on this forum beggars belief ... i really hope this is a bad joke cos if the op's serious then

I think you missed the message big time....he's taking the **** out of all of us and our pathetic response to recent defetas...

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut this is the same aussie team that nearly beat the english by an innings in cardiff ... this is the same ricky ponting who was lauded for his captaincy in the first test against england ... another poor post from a so called cricket watcher ... some of the things said on this forum beggars belief ... i really hope this is a bad joke cos if the op's serious then

Ponting didn't score a century this match. Maybe he wanted to expose some players Interesting development and not just the batting but some bowling all-rounder doesn't look happy either

[insaftak]

Austrailia collapsed one time, we collapsed three times, i do not think that there is any grouping in pakistani side but i don't know how else to explain three disastrous innings from pakistan.

[Raj87]

collapse happens to any team. even aussies of 90s and early 2000s too collapsed few times. windies of 80s too collapsed many times. if a team collapse once in a few test matches then its nothing bad. but if it happens three times in a row, then there is something wrong.

if this team collapse next two innings or atleast once in next two to three innings then it would be fair to criticize this aus team.

I find it very intresting to see people comparing aus team collapse today with Pakistan team which did thrice in a row.

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by 12thMan Ponting didn't score a century this match. Maybe he wanted to expose some players Interesting development and not just the batting but some bowling all-rounder doesn't look happy either

yeh i really believe that the aussies think like pakistani's ... i know its not gospel truth but Mike Atherton was just talking about how united the aussie team is and how they all play for one another ... i'm not saying that Athers is right but like i said theirs more likely to be a rift in the pakistani team then the aussies

[ali_zee]

oye yaaar...i mean xactly thats wat i think.....especially here people just respond to the things so quickly and without thinking.....
well i am still hopefull coz we r the champs and m sure enough that we gonna win the champs trophy as well

we r still unstopble with white ball

disasters happen but luckily we will do in the big matches like wc and ct...

srilanka was out clased bu our ballers in the final only captain with the new guy bated to some score...did they say mahila n jaysuriya was against the captain...NO

but m sure enough that IF it hapens to pak team ...yonus scored with fadi all other failed in final we wont even let the team come back to pak....

we r JAZBATI kinda people

give champions there due

THEY LET US DANCE IN LONDON ALL OVER....i cant nd infact nobody can thank them for bringing so much joy to us ...to a nation who is suffering alot...they brought the smile

can all of you people who disgrace malik day and night did what he did in semi and final???

give a cheers to them and remember we ar the champs

[12thMan]

you do know that some Australian players spent time time with certain Pakistani players in UAE. Key players from Australia wanted to rest while Clarke was captaining. I won't be surprised if some Pakistani boys were misled by Australians. Look at their T20 performance? Look at last test when they didn't want to get the last couple of players out.

[MalikMohsin]

Pakistan team collapse one time or three times, but it is part of cricket. Cricket is very unpredictable sport. Anything can happen and even if it is more than thrice, then so be it. That is what makes the sport so interesting. Sadly, our supporters tend to hype em as match fixed or the rift of the team.

This is wicked thread. Pakistan is playing first test after two and a half years and Australia is already played several test series already. Pakistan team is bound to collapse several times, but they need time to adjust to test format. It is matter of time.

^ It is time to kick the Clark, Johnson and several key players out of the team because they threaten to make Ricky look bad. LOL

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Oxy I think you missed the message big time....he's taking the **** out of all of us and our pathetic response to recent defetas...

Originally Posted by Usman Chadda Sarcasm missed by a country mile

i really hope it's sarcasm guys ... I'm sorry but with some of the stuff I've read on this forum I think i cant distinguish between serious and sarcastic anymore ... my bad if the op was being funny ... i can laugh at myself for not getting the joke the first time round i guess

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Originally Posted by ali_zee who cares...we r the champs of the recent championship

apparently jo jalte hein woh care bhi karte hein

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

shocked by todays aussie play, looks like pakistani stuff

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR shocked by todays aussie play, looks like pakistani stuff

knowing the aussies they'll probably fight back ... the tail enders will probably play out the whole day tomorrow who knows ... but i guess after all that domination everybody will be happy to see them struggle

[iafzal]

Originally Posted by Oxy I think you missed the message big time....he's taking the **** out of all of us and our pathetic response to recent defetas...

Oxy it seems you are the only one getting my sarcasm rest are just getting wound up.

What happened to us can happen to the best teams although that should not be an excuse to have repeat performances of the collapse. There should be accountability for these disastors but as usual Pakistani fans over react.

[Zaz]

Its one collapse, if 3 happens i ll believe u

[Savak]

A defeat always hurts the captain. If the frequency of defeats become higher and higher, the captain does fall under pressure. If Ponting loses the ashes this time, i am afraid he may be asked to step down.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Savak A defeat always hurts the captain. If the frequency of defeats become higher and higher, the captain does fall under pressure. If Ponting loses the ashes this time, i am afraid he may be asked to step down.

Mate he is gone if he loses them again.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Mate he is gone if he loses them again.

Don't know RA...I don't think Pup's ready yet. I also don't think the boffins in charge will want to discard Dubya as a batsman, which they would have to if they relieved him of the captaincy.

It's all about trends IMO. If he loses another few series after this then they will start seriously thinking about it I reckon.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by iafzal The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not understand what is going on in the team. How can a respectable team like Australia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts. It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed alliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. Ponting had planned to tell reporters what he can do if his players do not score but stopped himself as he himself only scored 2 runs. Not too long ago Qadir had told reporter that he saw Misbah and Malik having a long 4 hrs meeting with Clarke when they played 5 ODI series in Abu Dhabi. At that time no one knew what the meeting was all about but the latest performance has shed some light on it. It is now believed that Clarke had learned from the two masters (M&M) how to make your captain look like a dummy as well as get out cheaply making the ball look unplayable. Clarke has just successfully unleash this new art in the 2nd test and the whole world in tatters. It is also widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered. It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

Excellent post lol - you have a gift for satire! I think TSN has a new correspondent.

[Couch Cricketer]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Don't know RA...I don't think Pup's ready yet. I also don't think the boffins in charge will want to discard Dubya as a batsman, which they would have to if they relieved him of the captaincy. It's all about trends IMO. If he loses another few series after this then they will start seriously thinking about it I reckon.

Well personally I would prefer Dubya to be captain when we tour Australia this winter (summer for you). I think is the best chance of us beating Aus in Aus.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Don't know RA...I don't think Pup's ready yet. I also don't think the boffins in charge will want to discard Dubya as a batsman, which they would have to if they relieved him of the captaincy. It's all about trends IMO. If he loses another few series after this then they will start seriously thinking about it I reckon.

I find it hard to imagine we would continue with a captain who lost 2 Ashes series. Maybe they won't sack him but he will be under a lot of media pressure to resign (as he was last time he lost them) if we lose this series.

[Usman Chadda]

Just saw the highlights. Man oh man, Brad Haddin's shot was atrocious, taking into the consideration the situation of the match. I can count four wickets thrown away to the pull shot, horrible shot selection

[ahmed16]

So who is clarke, the aussie Malik.

Atrocious the whole lot of it, is it not possible that England where just the better team as where Sri Lanka.

[Wassixpakistani]

I don't think soo .

[indiancricketer]

Stop this nonsense.. There is no split in the Auz team.. They are still no.1 cricket team in the world!

[spectator]

Originally Posted by iafzal The recent collapse of Aussies in the 2nd test has just shown us how much a dummy captain Ponting is. He just does not understand what is going on in the team. How can a respectable team like Australia lose 6 wkts in a span of 50 runs going from 102 for 2 to 152 for 8? Only good explanation is that there is a rift between the players and they purposely gave away the wkts. It seems Clarke is very much interested in the captaincy of the Aussie team and has formed alliance with the newcomer North and all rounder M Johnson. Ponting had planned to tell reporters what he can do if his players do not score but stopped himself at the last moment realizing he himself only scored 2 runs. Not too long ago Qadir had told reporter that he saw Misbah and Malik having a long 4 hrs meeting with Clarke when they played 5 ODI series in Abu Dhabi. At that time no one knew what the meeting was all about but the latest performance has shed some light on it. It is now believed that Clarke had learned from the two masters (M&M) how to make your captain look like a dummy as well as get out cheaply while making the ball look unplayable. Clarke has just successfully unleashed his new skill in the 2nd test and the whole world is in tatters. It is now widely reported that Ponting's days as captain are numbered.

you cannot compare australia with pakistan. aussies are professional unit who doesnt have rifts in team. However pakistan has a history of rifts and huge egos, and backstabing team members.
How intelligent team management is. after loosing the series they are not willing the chance to youngsters in tests. they are probably going to make one change for 3rd test.

[MalikMohsin]

Originally Posted by indiancricketer Stop this nonsense.. There is no split in the Auz team.. They are still no.1 cricket team in the world!

People have lost the taste of sarcasm.

[naqlipathan]

this happens to australia once a year

it happens to pakistan every other match

there is a difference