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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:18
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Latest ICC ODI Rankings (after annual update)

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Rank Team Rating

1 South Africa 127
2 India 126
3 Australia 119
4 England 111
5 New Zealand 110
6 Pakistan 107
7 Sri Lanka 106
8 West Indies 78
9 Bangladesh 54
10 Ireland 27
11 Zimbabwe 26
12 Kenya 0


There you go. For the first time India has a chance to go at no.1 coming champion trophy...either SA does badly or India doing well, we are going to No.1...I hope its later.

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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:19
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:38
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Indian weakness have been found out. They are going to get beat playing with a credible cricket nation. Lets watch..
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and we are placed ahead of Sri Lanka.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:45
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Indian weakness have been found out. They are going to get beat playing with a credible cricket nation. Lets watch..
The 'weakness' have been in the open for decades....nothing new or like its just been found out....still we did excellent in ODIs last 2 yrs under Dhoni and deserved to take a shot at NO.1...

Go Boys...
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:46
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and we are placed ahead of Sri Lanka.
The remaining 3 ODIs can be a mini series for PAK---If they lose 2-1 they would drop below SL to 7th spot...
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The 'weakness' have been in the open for decades....nothing new or like its just been found out....still we did excellent in ODIs last 2 yrs under Dhoni and deserved to take a shot at NO.1...

Go Boys...
You guys deserve it no doubt. Thanks to the flat tracks and Dhoni's leadership. I am hoping to see you guys fall from #2 very soon.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:56
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You guys deserve it no doubt. Thanks to the flat tracks and Dhoni's leadership. I am hoping to see you guys fall from #2 very soon.
thanks for your wishes but I think we would rather do without it....
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:57
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Old 3rd August 2009, 02:59
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BTW when would ICC introduce official T20 team rankings......

no doubt PAK would be NO.1 at launch because of 2 world cup final apperance..Ind & SL too would be in top tier with their world cup final apperance too.....would be fun seeing Asian nations 1,2,3.....it woudl be a first of kind....
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Old 3rd August 2009, 03:07
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BTW when would ICC introduce official T20 team rankings......

no doubt PAK would be NO.1 at launch because of 2 world cup final apperance..Ind & SL too would be in top tier with their world cup final apperance too.....would be fun seeing Asian nations 1,2,3.....it woudl be a first of kind....
dont think that India can be No.2 T20 side, I think it will be South Africa.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 03:09
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dont think that India can be No.2 T20 side, I think it will be South Africa.
Ya we did awful in T20 world cup....hopefully we would fix that in windies next year....
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Ya we did awful in T20 world cup....hopefully we would fix that in windies next year....
I think India will do well in the next T20 if Sehwag plays. You guys make a lot of runs with that solid opening partnership at the top.

As for the rankings it will be interesting to see if India can knock the Saffers of their pedestal. It seems unlikely because I don't see the Saffers doing poorly in the CT.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 03:42
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I think India will do well in the next T20 if Sehwag plays. You guys make a lot of runs with that solid opening partnership at the top.

As for the rankings it will be interesting to see if India can knock the Saffers of their pedestal. It seems unlikely because I don't see the Saffers doing poorly in the CT.
Saffies genrally choke in big touney...so lets see...
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Old 3rd August 2009, 04:55
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Old 3rd August 2009, 05:40
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I dont think we are ready for #1 yet. #3 was a fair reflection of the team considering its weaknesses especially against short pitched bowling and lack of a good bench strength in the pace bowling department.

I would crib about #2 a little since the expectations have gone up further, but could still live with it. India isnt #1 material yet. They have to overcome the above said weaknesses and perform and win in SA. Then I would call them #1. Just not yet even if they are declared so by the ICC.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:00
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I dont think we are ready for #1 yet. #3 was a fair reflection of the team considering its weaknesses especially against short pitched bowling and lack of a good bench strength in the pace bowling department.

I would crib about #2 a little since the expectations have gone up further, but could still live with it. India isnt #1 material yet. They have to overcome the above said weaknesses and perform and win in SA. Then I would call them #1. Just not yet even if they are declared so by the ICC.
I wouldn't be so critical...If India has weaknesses has short pitch bowling on bouncy pitches then so are saffies vulnerable on spinning track aganst quality spiners....If we don't have bench strength in pace bowling then which team has? Saffies too rely heavily on Steyn etc.

We are def no#2 at the moment with Aus losing its zing and our consistent record over last 2 ywear and we would certainly be #1 if we triumph in CT.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:06
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It is not a question of just reaching the #1 spot mate. It is about staying there. If we don't fix those weaknesses we will fall sooner than later. It is better to be #2 or #3 for a longer time and fix them to go up rather than reaching the pinnacle too soon only to fall within a short time. My opinion..
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:15
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You guys deserve it no doubt. Thanks to the flat tracks and Dhoni's leadership. I am hoping to see you guys fall from #2 very soon.
Comon man, let's avoid the bitterness, shall we? The past few years have seen the Indian team do well in all sorts of difficult conditions. The CB Series victory against Australia, ODI series against NZ, ODI series against SL are few that rank at the top.

It's a level playing ground for everyone. If you are getting the right results, the rankings will show. India is # 2, closely behind South Africa. End of.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:39
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Invincible,you are back after the 20/20 hiding.You disappeared the day we got knocked out of 2020.Do you still worship Ravindra Jadeja & Dhoni ?
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:47
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Invincible,you are back after the 20/20 hiding.You disappeared the day we got knocked out of 2020.Do you still worship Ravindra Jadeja & Dhoni ?
I didn't disappear mate. I was merely not interested because it was off-season in football. I am not a big fan of the cricket forums anymore. I spend most of my time in the sports section and gladly enjoy all the conversations there.

As for Jadeja, I was disappointed by his batting but he is still rated highly by many and that's all that counts. Dhoni is still a very good captain. If some insane fans who don't view success and failure as being part of the game don't think that way, it really is not my problem
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Old 3rd August 2009, 06:58
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Great Going India!!
Slam the SA and be no 1
Pak should chase the rest down and be no 1
and then the true 1 & 2 will emerge maybe India one year and Pakistan the next no.1 yearly basis
as long as the 'angrez teams' are out of contention and they are kept below the ASIANS i am a happy man
i am sure by now they know vwery well how good the Asians are at beating them at their own game
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Old 3rd August 2009, 09:15
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It is not a question of just reaching the #1 spot mate. It is about staying there. If we don't fix those weaknesses we will fall sooner than later. It is better to be #2 or #3 for a longer time and fix them to go up rather than reaching the pinnacle too soon only to fall within a short time. My opinion..
I think we have waited long enough......we have been hovering around 2-3 for two years and now is the opportunity to march forward.....
SA too isn't invincible and are also prone to embarssing loses so there is no one at the world cricket like Aus of last decade or Windies of 80's...

so the cycle will go one and most top ODIs team are in teh race of no.1...feel thats good for game...was tired of seeing AUS at the pinnacle last 10 year...
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India has cut the deadwood from their ODI unit and gone with younger players who are electric in the field and dominant with the bat. They also have a captain who is a natural ODI player and an automatic choice due to being the wicketkeeper.

Pakistan is still stuck with the seniority culture where fans and officials alike want to see their favourite players in the team rather than trying to build a team for the future!
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India has cut the deadwood from their ODI unit and gone with younger players who are electric in the field and dominant with the bat. They also have a captain who is a natural ODI player and an automatic choice due to being the wicketkeeper.

Pakistan is still stuck with the seniority culture where fans and officials alike want to see their favourite players in the team rather than trying to build a team for the future!
Sadly, it's the same with Indian fans. Many Dravid fans and Ganguly fans were after Dhoni and the board for their their decision to drop the senior players. Thankfully, the T20 WC helped a bit and the latter success that followed stabilized the situation.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 10:09
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India has cut the deadwood from their ODI unit
Apparantly Rahul Dravid is slated to come back for CT!
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Sadly, it's the same with Indian fans. Many Dravid fans and Ganguly fans were after Dhoni and the board for their their decision to drop the senior players. Thankfully, the T20 WC helped a bit and the latter success that followed stabilized the situation.
Absolutely true. A lot of Dravid and Ganguly fans can't stand Dhoni for obvious reasons.
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Apparantly Rahul Dravid is slated to come back for CT!
He is among the 30 men probables, that's it.
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^^No BB. He will play. Just mark my words . The current bunch of selectors mean business and if they choose a senior in the squad, he will be in the 11.

Rahul is a welcome addition to our mostly young team. He provides the much needed solidity and technical correctness when faced with a barrage of short pitched deliveries.

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^^No BB. He will play. Just mark my words . The current bunch of selectors mean business and if they choose a senior in the squad, he will be in the 11.

Rahul is a welcome addition to our mostly young team. He provides the much needed solidity and technical correctness when faced with a barrage of short pitched deliveries.
The likes of Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni are already in the team. They should shoulder the responsibilities of senior players! Others like Raina, Rohit Sharma, Yousuf Pathan should be batting around them. I don't think Dravid is really needed. If I'm not wrong, Tendulkar will be playing the Champions trophy, won't he?
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Yes Sachin will be playing the CT. Normally I would have agreed with you that Dravid is a luxury in the ODI set up. But after seeing these guys struggling offlate to short pitched deliveries I am not so sure.

Even Gambir wasnt comfortable against it. Seems to have developed some technical deficiency. Would be kinda interesting as to what the batting order for CT would be.
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Comon man, let's avoid the bitterness, shall we? The past few years have seen the Indian team do well in all sorts of difficult conditions. The CB Series victory against Australia, ODI series against NZ, ODI series against SL are few that rank at the top.

It's a level playing ground for everyone. If you are getting the right results, the rankings will show. India is # 2, closely behind South Africa. End of.
Lucky no other team has ever won the CB series eh?

On form, Australia should be ranked somewhere around.....7th
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Lucky no other team has ever won the CB series eh?
You won't realize it. For a team like us it's a thing to cheer for decades to beat Australia in Australia that too in a tri-series. In fact that victory has been hailed as the 3rd biggest ODI series victory for us by our ex-cricketers, behind the 1983 World Cup victory and a certain series probably in 1985.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 11:53
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You won't realize it. For a team like us it's a thing to cheer for decades to beat Australia in Australia that too in a tri-series. In fact that victory has been hailed as the 3rd biggest ODI series victory for us by our ex-cricketers, behind the 1983 World Cup victory and a certain series probably in 1985.
Yeah CB Series win was huge for us then but now Aus is easy!
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this was deserved they have played well all around for last year and so...more importantly they have chalked out series wins....funnily had we not lost a match in windies we would have been no 1
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The likes of Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni are already in the team. They should shoulder the responsibilities of senior players! Others like Raina, Rohit Sharma, Yousuf Pathan should be batting around them. I don't think Dravid is really needed. If I'm not wrong, Tendulkar will be playing the Champions trophy, won't he?
India should play Kholi and Badri in the ODI's. Kholi has had a wonderful Emerging Players series where he scored over 400 runs at an average of 50 with 2 hundreds in Australia. Rohit Sharma needs to be discarded for the ODI's as I feel he is overrated and has got too many chances compared to the two I have mentioned.

Even Rahane has had a good time in the emerging players tourney. Pujara has been doing well, so we need to get rid of Rohit as promise and a fifty every 10 innings shouldnt gaurentee a spot in the National side.
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Indian weakness have been found out. They are going to get beat playing with a credible cricket nation. Lets watch..

India Won the C B Series in Australia, One a test match at Perth, the fastest pitch in Australia, Won 2 one day series in Srilanka and you still wanna c proof? They got some of world's finest batsment who can play pace and spin alike. By the way were pakistan team stands? Yesterday they lost the one day series to Srilanka. Forget about the seniors, do u have any player of the caliber of Cheteshar Pujara? Who is your most promising young cricketer?
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India Won the C B Series in Australia, One a test match at Perth, the fastest pitch in Australia, Won 2 one day series in Srilanka and you still wanna c proof? They got some of world's finest batsment who can play pace and spin alike. By the way were pakistan team stands? Yesterday they lost the one day series to Srilanka. Forget about the seniors, do u have any player of the caliber of Cheteshar Pujara? Who is your most promising young cricketer?
You forgot to mention the bit about:

1) Lost the Test series against Sri Lanka. Where the world's finest players of spin were pwned by a debutant spinner.

2) Lost the Test series against Australia in Australia - the great glorious marvel of a Perth victory notwithstanding. And that pitch was not fast stop with the cheerleading.

3) And only avoided being beaten at home in Test series by South Africa thanks to pitch doctoring so dubious the toothless ICC actually gave BCCI a warning.

You want to ask if Pakistan have any player the calibre of Pujara, a domestic Indian player. Well as it stands now any batsmen who has actually played international cricket>>overhyped domestic FTB.

Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now
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Good reply random aussie. liked it....one thing more do they have a young talent Like UMER AKMAL.....who is al set to become a star inshallah in sometime. Sad to see pAk going down in the ratings as we are still no.1 in 20-20. but this matters the most. i was so happy to see that after winning the worlc cup last month we will now step up and win every series or try hard to but srilanka series was a disasrer one. hope we climb back soon inshallah
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You forgot to mention the bit about:

1) Lost the Test series against Sri Lanka. Where the world's finest players of spin were pwned by a debutant spinner.

2) Lost the Test series against Australia in Australia - the great glorious marvel of a Perth victory notwithstanding. And that pitch was not fast stop with the cheerleading.

3) And only avoided being beaten at home in Test series by South Africa thanks to pitch doctoring so dubious the toothless ICC actually gave BCCI a warning.

You want to ask if Pakistan have any player the calibre of Pujara, a domestic Indian player. Well as it stands now any batsmen who has actually played international cricket>>overhyped domestic FTB.

Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now
You can go on and on but the ratings show Australia is behind India. So stop sugarcoating all this when we know that Australia is behind India.

And you Indian supporters stop bragging your team as you are the unbeatable bunch in this world. Take this number 2 spot with lot of dignity and hope that your team can hang on to this for a while.
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Old 4th August 2009, 05:51
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You can go on and on but the ratings show Australia is behind India. So stop sugarcoating all this when we know that Australia is behind India.

And you Indian supporters stop bragging your team as you are the unbeatable bunch in this world. Take this number 2 spot with lot of dignity and hope that your team can hang on to this for a while.
So where did my post mention Australia?
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You can go on and on but the ratings show Australia is behind India. So stop sugarcoating all this when we know that Australia is behind India.

And you Indian supporters stop bragging your team as you are the unbeatable bunch in this world. Take this number 2 spot with lot of dignity and hope that your team can hang on to this for a while.
That's what I prefer to do. The higher you fly, the harder you fall. I hate it when posters from my side start bragging. I'm extremely happy with our performance lately, but don't want to hype ourselves above others.
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You forgot to mention the bit about:

1) Lost the Test series against Sri Lanka. Where the world's finest players of spin were pwned by a debutant spinner.

2) Lost the Test series against Australia in Australia - the great glorious marvel of a Perth victory notwithstanding. And that pitch was not fast stop with the cheerleading.

3) And only avoided being beaten at home in Test series by South Africa thanks to pitch doctoring so dubious the toothless ICC actually gave BCCI a warning.

You want to ask if Pakistan have any player the calibre of Pujara, a domestic Indian player. Well as it stands now any batsmen who has actually played international cricket>>overhyped domestic FTB.

Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now

Umar Gul is not that great bowler.. How many wickets he has taken in Srilanka? I agree Aameer is very promising.

And the about the test series against Australia, India lost the series only due to poor umpiring. Every one knows that
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You forgot to mention the bit about:

1) Lost the Test series against Sri Lanka. Where the world's finest players of spin were pwned by a debutant spinner.
The world recognizes India as the best players of spin. The fact that they messed up in ONE series against THE most talented young spinners is nothing to be downgraded about.

In addition, India won a test match and it was a closely contested series. After the tests, they won the 5 match ODI's too. So, it was a fairly successful tour. Not many teams have done all that well in Sri lanka who are a top team in their own den.

[quote]2) Lost the Test series against Australia in Australia - the great glorious marvel of a Perth victory notwithstanding. And that pitch was not fast stop with the cheerleading.

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3) And only avoided being beaten at home in Test series by South Africa thanks to pitch doctoring so dubious the toothless ICC actually gave BCCI a warning.
Every series in Australia, there's a test in Perth where the sub continental teams are definitely on the backfoot because they are not naturals at playing pace and bounce. That is hardly considered "doctoring" but when one of the subcontinental teams makes a pitch completely according to their strengths, it is "doctored." How hypocritical are you!!!

As for the Perth test - Australia were 2-0 up in the series and the whole media (YOUR MEDIA) was commenting how the Indian batsmen would be blown away by the pace of Tait. In the end - Irfan Pathan the whole laughing stock according to PP was the man of the match and Tait went onto retirement!

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You want to ask if Pakistan have any player the calibre of Pujara, a domestic Indian player. Well as it stands now any batsmen who has actually played international cricket>>overhyped domestic FTB.

Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now
I agree with this part though not completely. Aamer and Umar Akmal look good, potential wise. However, there aren't many others who have made the step up to the first team in the last couple of years. In India's case, the likes of Raina, Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma have all made the step up and the IPL has shown the world some talented faces like Manish Pandey and Virat Kohli.

I don't know why the topic of Atul Sharma arises everytime. He wasn't hyped up by any of the Indian users or media. It was Ian Pont all along. Even on PP, the indian supporters were pensive about his future.

The rankings depict a better picture of form than overall averages and look at the rankings of Indian bowlers and Pakistan bowlers:

Gul - 18; Ishant - 19; Zaheer - 9;
Harbhajan - 6; Kaneria - 14;
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As for the Perth test - Australia were 2-0 up in the series and the whole media (YOUR MEDIA) was commenting how the Indian batsmen would be blown away by the pace of Tait. In the end - Irfan Pathan the whole laughing stock according to PP was the man of the match and Tait went onto retirement!
That was pure class...absolutely loved it. The way the Aussie media hyped Tait and his "Thunderbolts". In the end he was stuck by his own thunderbolt (I guess) never to return to International Cricket again.
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That's what I prefer to do. The higher you fly, the harder you fall. I hate it when posters from my side start bragging. I'm extremely happy with our performance lately, but don't want to hype ourselves above others.
Absolutely...completely agree.
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Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now
Agreed that we might not have individual talents like you have mentioned, but we still have produced good TEAM performances to be in the top 3 in the official ratings (both formats). So doesnt that count?

And we have won the last ODI series we played against every opposition (including Aus and SA - future cup in 07).. So that was a fluke?

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Absolutely...completely agree.
The problem with bragging is the minute you fall or have an off day, everyone will be out there rubbing it in. As long as you don't brag, you won't be embarrassed or humiliated for anything.
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thanks for your wishes but I think we would rather do without it....
Being a Patriot Pakistani and a cricket lover to the core I apologize for the above comment. Come on guys, there is no point in wishing others go down when our own team is not peforming well. I would rather see Pakistan beat any team on the field than make a comment like this. No one should doubt that Indian team currently is one of the best in the world in ODI's. We have fallen to the 6th for a reason and the reason is not playing enough cricket and then not making enough of the chances provided to us. Let's hope we can win the last two ODI's in style to have some confidence for the players for CT.
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Umar Gul is not that great bowler.. How many wickets he has taken in Srilanka? I agree Aameer is very promising.

And the about the test series against Australia, India lost the series only due to poor umpiring. Every one knows that
Please name your bowlers better than Umar Gul.

And yes India would have won 4 nil if it were not for the umpires. Dream on.
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Every series in Australia, there's a test in Perth where the sub continental teams are definitely on the backfoot because they are not naturals at playing pace and bounce. That is hardly considered "doctoring" but when one of the subcontinental teams makes a pitch completely according to their strengths, it is "doctored." How hypocritical are you!!!

You do understand that Australian pitches are naturally bouncy and Perth is the bounciest of them all. The pitch is not prepared according to the Australian team's wishes in fact your selective memory seems to have forgot that Australian team has heavily criticised Perth pitch for some time for being too slow.

Bit different to producing a lunar surface when you are about to lose a Test series.


In India's case, the likes of Raina, Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma have all made the step up and the IPL has shown the world some talented faces like Manish Pandey and Virat Kohli.
Ishant has made the step up although his figures are nothing to be proud of. The rest are wanna bees who are not established and no guarantee to be.
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Being a Patriot Pakistani and a cricket lover to the core I apologize for the above comment. Come on guys, there is no point in wishing others go down when our own team is not peforming well. I would rather see Pakistan beat any team on the field than make a comment like this. No one should doubt that Indian team currently is one of the best in the world in ODI's. We have fallen to the 6th for a reason and the reason is not playing enough cricket and then not making enough of the chances provided to us. Let's hope we can win the last two ODI's in style to have some confidence for the players for CT.
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Thanks choclate! really appreciate your thoughts......same here buddy...I woudl never think or wish any team doing badly..I am more concern about my team doing good.....
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It seems guys have been mixing ODIs and Tetsts here...this is purely an ODI Discussion thread since the rankings are of the same nature.....

Most crictics of Indian ODI team don't hold water to the fact that we did amazingly well last 2 years in ODIs and deserved to be no. 2 at the moment....
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Must thank Pakistan for all these points.We are now ranked ahead of them and fairly close to NZ and England in the ODI
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Must thank Pakistan for all these points.We are now ranked ahead of them and fairly close to NZ and England in the ODI
Nopes those wins are still not counted...so guess more good news to follow you...
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Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now

offcource like pakistan ,india dont play back to back series with teams like bangladesh and zimbabwe and make their record look more impresive.
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Do you have any promising young bowler like Aamer? Aside from the great tyreflipper ATUL?
Do you have a bowler like Umar Gul who average less than 30 runs per wicket? No
Do you have bowler like Asif who averages 23 per wicket? No

That should do for now

offcource like pakistan ,india dont play back to back series with teams like bangladesh and zimbabwe and make their record look more impresive.
congrats on ure first post
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