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Old 4th August 2009, 16:00
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Who is really responsible for selecting final playing 11?

I wonder who have got this wonderful Ideas of

1. Dropping MOYO from the team

2. Having 2 specialist openers in your squad and playing with 2 make shift openers in your final 11

3. Playing Shoaib Malik in the team specially over MOYO.

I know Younis Khan is not that insensible to make these decisions, so it means Inti is the man to select the final team or what?

And what do you think, who should be responsible for selecting the final 11. I think its the captain.
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Old 4th August 2009, 16:11
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YK and Intikhab
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Old 4th August 2009, 16:14
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YK and Intikhab

Yawar Saeed the Manager
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Old 4th August 2009, 16:15
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i think they do a lucky draw (fun cricket you know!)
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Old 4th August 2009, 16:26
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YK and Intikhab
YK has said that he does not has full authority in selecting final eleven and its a problem. He mentions that four people are involved. I think they are captain, coach, manager and either vice captain or bowling coach Aqib Javed.
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Old 4th August 2009, 16:28
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YK has said that he does not has full authority in selecting final eleven and its a problem. He mentions that four people are involved. I think they are captain, coach, manager and either vice captain or bowling coach Aqib Javed.
YK is a jerk, he will never say that if team is wining!
did he complain about that in T20 WC?
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Old 4th August 2009, 17:45
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YK is a jerk, he will never say that if team is wining!
did he complain about that in T20 WC?
don't be idiotic and slate YK for no reason...it is a fact that the captain never has complete authority over the final XI
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:23
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don't be idiotic and slate YK for no reason...it is a fact that the captain never has complete authority over the final XI
Younus Khan wouldn't accept the captaincy role if he didn't has any role in selection role. He clearly didn't want to be dummy captain. That is why PCB has agreed to compromise with him.

Why do you think Abdul Qadir selected of several players were ignored and heeded Younus choices instead?

People do have short memory. Malik didn't has completely authority in selection roles, but he has never complained. In comparable to Younus, who is already making several excuses already and yet to learn to accept the responsibilities.
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:25
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having a role and having the final say are 2 completely different things...even Ponting does not have that kind of authority over his team...it's a collective decision 99% of the time...I think in our history only Imran Khan might have had complete say over who gets to play
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:27
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don't be idiotic and slate YK for no reason...it is a fact that the captain never has complete authority over the final XI
idiotic? are you high?

i know he doesn't have complete authority but why cry when losing?
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:43
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having a role and having the final say are 2 completely different things...even Ponting does not have that kind of authority over his team...it's a collective decision 99% of the time...I think in our history only Imran Khan might have had complete say over who gets to play
Some of choices of his were respected. That is fine authority he has in compared to others who didn't has a final say in the first place.

Younus needs to accept the responsibility of the action he takes and move on, rather than whining, complaining, plenty of excuses, blaming of some players and pretend to turn blind eye of his performance as batsman, and failed to provide fine example as captain, and poor leadership i have seen so far.
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:45
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idiotic? are you high?

i know he doesn't have complete authority but why cry when losing?
because everyone else is friggin' crying because we are losing! Nobody has any faith in the team...drop this guy, drop that guy, give him the ball, don't give him the ball, do this do that bla bla bla...it will get to the best of people
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:48
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idiotic? are you high?

i know he doesn't have complete authority but why cry when losing?
Just say that you hate YK. Dont need to come up with excuses for having a go at him.
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Old 4th August 2009, 18:49
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YK needs to be given complete control, complete authority to select the playing eleven. He has shown that he can take tough decisions. Let him have his say. Get the incompetent init and th erest out of team selection matters
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Old 4th August 2009, 22:06
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In pakistan all this wishy washy "lets do it together" BS doesnt work..give the captain all the authority..at the end of the day he is the one who will lose his job..yawar saeed and the rest will just come back again! YK must be given full authority to do as he likes. Then if it doesnt work im sure he'll resign anyway!
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Old 5th August 2009, 16:49
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Just say that you hate YK. Dont need to come up with excuses for having a go at him.
i don't hate YK or anyone, its about Pakistan Team & captaincy.
and YK is turning out to be a failure.
His statements & actions should apply to himself too!
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Old 5th August 2009, 17:01
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In pakistan all this wishy washy "lets do it together" BS doesnt work..give the captain all the authority..at the end of the day he is the one who will lose his job..yawar saeed and the rest will just come back again! YK must be given full authority to do as he likes. Then if it doesnt work im sure he'll resign anyway!
well said and SAM's it is the team members not performing well, nothing captain can do about it besides encouraging and using some fould language besides asking shrink to talk to them. If not Younis then who?. Your signature says you are proud of the T20 victory like all of us but do you really believe without good captaincy and using the right players it was achieveable?
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