Pakistan is the only team that has read Mendis well?

[hur rizvi]

Ajantha Mendis has been bowling wonderfully well against newzealand and none of their batsman seem to pick him up.Pakistan
have been the only team that has read mendis well even Indian batsman who are labelled as the best players of spin have troubled against mendis the records confirm what i have said here:-

Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR
unfiltered 9 16 388.0 66 1119 42 6/117 10/209 26.64 2.88 55.4
filtered 4 6 129.0 21 395 6 3/20 3/101 65.83 3.06 129.0

against india
Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR

3 6 163.1 24 478 26 6/117 10/209 18.38 2.92 37.6

[Extreme Pace]

NZ are also doing relatively fine, his match figures so far are 132/3.

[sakss]

we can play mendis but not the moving ball...ie kulusekra....lol

[hur rizvi]

Originally Posted by Extreme Pace NZ are also doing relatively fine, his match figures so far are 132/3.

Did you not see Mcullum and Ryder troubling against mendis they are really troubling against him in the 2nd inns

[IAJ]

No secret that Pakistan play him well

[Extreme Pace]

Most of the NZ batsmen have read him pretty well except a couple, even Moyo was getting troubled by Mendis. Considering NZ usually are weak against spin they have done a pretty good here, credit Saqlain Mustaq maybe ?

[sakss]

its coz of the tape ball finger spin bowling in pak,,our batsman are used to it i guess.

[hur rizvi]

Originally Posted by sakss its coz of the tape ball finger spin bowling in pak,,our batsman are used to it i guess.

But tape ball cricket is not only played in Pakistan it is also played in India

[sakss]

Originally Posted by hur rizvi But tape ball cricket is not only played in Pakistan it is also played in India

i guess india were overconfident against him

[IAJ]

Originally Posted by hur rizvi But tape ball cricket is not only played in Pakistan it is also played in India

Well every team (apart from Pakistan) which plays him for the first time will find it difficult, but they will play him better second time around. And I don't think he will be so dangerous against India now.
His bowling average will go up. Especially in ODIs and T20.

[sakss]

Originally Posted by IAJ Well every team (apart from Pakistan) which plays him for the first time will find it difficult, but they will play him better second time around. And I don't think he will be so dangerous against India now. His bowling average will go up. Especially in ODIs and T20.

agreed.....NZ played him pretty well too...

[shane]

Pakistan is one of, if not the, best team against spin at the moment. Unfortunately, most of the team is usually out by the time the spinners come on to bowl.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by shane Pakistan is one of, if not the, best team against spin at the moment. Unfortunately, most of the team is usually out by the time the spinners come on to bowl.

[haroonrasheed320]

Tape ball cricket is played in every cricketing country, I think most of the teams have picked him up it seems the Mystery is solved when he was new batsmen played him as an off spinner now they are more careful & play him as a leg spinner who occasionally bowls the googly (carom ball) this is what they pretend

[Rizwan25]

Originally Posted by hur rizvi But tape ball cricket is not only played in Pakistan it is also played in India

They dont play with tape ball in india as one of my indian freind told me about it.

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by haroonrasheed320 Tape ball cricket is played in every cricketing country, I think most of the teams have picked him up it seems the Mystery is solved when he was new batsmen played him as an off spinner now they are more careful & play him as a leg spinner who occasionally bowls the googly (carom ball) this is what they pretend

Never seen it here in England. They play without the tape, which means the ball bounces a lot more.

Maybe Pakistan should do this? Bouncing pitches always lead to our demise.

[sali]

Credit goes to SL for realizing that we read Murli and Mendis well so they need to rely on swing. I remember Pak in mid nineties using green pitch against them. I think it was Sialkot or Gugrawala. They counter this beautifully with Dumbulla and exploited Pak's weakness against swing.

[*sallu*]

To be fair to India, they played him horribly early on, but in the last odi series they handled him well enough

But its really very obvious that Pakistan has played Mendis with a lotta ease

[hur rizvi]

Originally Posted by haroonrasheed320 Tape ball cricket is played in every cricketing country, I think most of the teams have picked him up it seems the Mystery is solved when he was new batsmen played him as an off spinner now they are more careful & play him as a leg spinner who occasionally bowls the googly (carom ball) this is what they pretend

Infact u have got it all wrong he bowls a carrom ball which is his DOOSRA
and he also bowls a typical leg spinners GOOGLY carrom ball and googly are two different deliveries

[jusarrived]

credit to Pak , they played him much better than other countries in the beginning , though if am not wrong he picked 4 wickets in the first odi he played against pak .

but anway as i have been saying from day one , hes an average bowler

[bantu]

Originally Posted by shane Pakistan is one of, if not the, best team against spin at the moment. Unfortunately, most of the team is usually out by the time the spinners come on to bowl.

[Golden arm]

I guess its only because of our local Mendis ASLAM SATTAR.
younis has called this guy many times in camp, and our batsmen have been practising against him.
so this is a very valid point.

[ask]

Sofar pakistan has played him better than any other country. Mendis will have to find something new as others countries get used to his action.

[dani2k]

Yes Pakistan did play Mendis better and as said earlier, India played him way too early. One more factor is that as he played more, a lot of his action is available over videos for analysis. So India in a way has become a guinea pig for others to benefit.

The other factors that went against India were
1) First time that the M&M bowled in tandem. Pressure from both ends and India didnt have an answer
2) First time that the referral system was used. Kumble was pathetic in using that and Mahela was brilliant for which he deserves credit.


But all said and done, India did win a test despite all of this when we played last. Inspite of you guys playing better against Mendis, you failed to win a single test now...so no real benefits as such (except for bragging rights which this thread is) . We also won two back to back ODI series in SL against the same M&M. You guys failed to do win one..that is the fact.

[LG]

^^ This isn't about whether India or Pakistan play better against Sri Lanka. It's about Mendis in particular. Throughout the series, Mendis wasn't even a factor.

I do agree about India becoming a "guinea pig for others to benefit". But, it's not all about video analysis. Otherwise, Mendis would have been picked up easily in the T20WC too, and that didn't happen. Mendis was doing marvellously until the final, in which PAKISTAN took him to the cleaners.

And also credit should go to India for playing well in the last ODI series between the two sides. The coming tri-series will be interesting to watch.

[Golden arm]

Originally Posted by dani2k But all said and done, India did win a test despite all of this when we played last. Inspite of you guys playing better against Mendis, you failed to win a single test now...so no real benefits as such (except for bragging rights which this thread is) . We also won two back to back ODI series in SL against the same M&M. You guys failed to do win one..that is the fact.

come on, Dont be angry!
Dont take every thing to your heart, you seem very emotional.
this thread is not about winning tests, its about playing mendis well!
So please stick to that.
I agree with your points, about M& M being first time playing together against india and then about the referral system, very valid points, But please dont be emotional every time!
cricket is a lovable game and can make strong bonds between players and the people of different countries. Many players in your team and our team have been very good friends historically and even to date they enjoy good relations.

[Ryankhan]

oh yes totally, not even the spin legend murli troubled us. it was all swing bowling that troubled us otherwise mendis n murli were nothing for pak team as u look at other team they get depressed by just knowing the both m will be in test series. pak zindabad

[Xohaib]

Originally Posted by dani2k Yes Pakistan did play Mendis better and as said earlier, India played him way too early. One more factor is that as he played more, a lot of his action is available over videos for analysis. So India in a way has become a guinea pig for others to benefit. The other factors that went against India were 1) First time that the M&M bowled in tandem. Pressure from both ends and India didnt have an answer 2) First time that the referral system was used. Kumble was pathetic in using that and Mahela was brilliant for which he deserves credit. But all said and done, India did win a test despite all of this when we played last. Inspite of you guys playing better against Mendis, you failed to win a single test now...so no real benefits as such (except for bragging rights which this thread is) . We also won two back to back ODI series in SL against the same M&M. You guys failed to do win one..that is the fact.

Yeah You lost the test series but won the odi series
But you know we have better record against both Srilanka and India,don't brag if you won one series accidentally.
And now we are the world champions and you guys are the over rated,first round exits from the world cup.

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by Golden arm come on, Dont be angry! Dont take every thing to your heart, you seem very emotional.this thread is not about winning tests, its about playing mendis well! So please stick to that. I agree with your points, about M& M being first time playing together against india and then about the referral system, very valid points, But please dont be emotional every time! cricket is a lovable game and can make strong bonds between players and the people of different countries. Many players in your team and our team have been very good friends historically and even to date they enjoy good relations.

Not at all mate. Just stating some facts. On second thoughts I should have used some smileys I guess

Thanks for the concern though. Appreciate that.

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by Xohaib Yeah You lost the test series but won the odi series But you know we have better record against both Srilanka and India,don't brag if you won one series accidentally. And now we are the world champions and you guys are the over rated,first round exits from the world cup.

Enjoy it while you can - shortest World T20 champion! (for how long - 11 months?). You anyways followed the leader (India) to be the champion. What you hold now is not new to us anyway..

[iafzal]

Originally Posted by hur rizvi But tape ball cricket is not only played in Pakistan it is also played in India

No Indians do not play with tape ball, they play with the hard tennis ball that is heavier then regular tennis ball. No wonder they do not produce fast bowlers as it is not much fun trying to be a fast bowler with that ball.

[IAJ]

Originally Posted by dani2k Yes Pakistan did play Mendis better and as said earlier, India played him way too early. One more factor is that as he played more, a lot of his action is available over videos for analysis. So India in a way has become a guinea pig for others to benefit. The other factors that went against India were 1) First time that the M&M bowled in tandem. Pressure from both ends and India didnt have an answer 2) First time that the referral system was used. Kumble was pathetic in using that and Mahela was brilliant for which he deserves credit. But all said and done, India did win a test despite all of this when we played last. Inspite of you guys playing better against Mendis, you failed to win a single test now...so no real benefits as such (except for bragging rights which this thread is) . We also won two back to back ODI series in SL against the same M&M. You guys failed to do win one..that is the fact.

The thread is about Mendis. Not about winning tests and ODIs!
What is wrong with you? Kuch tou bardasht kiya kar yaar! You are allways there to defend India even when India isn't mentioned.
Grow up and don't misuse the threads in your favour all the time!

[pun500]

Originally Posted by IAJ The thread is about Mendis. Not about winning tests and ODIs! What is wrong with you? Kuch tou bardasht kiya kar yaar! You are allways there to defend India even when India isn't mentioned. Grow up and don't misuse the threads in your favour all the time!

have been the only team that has read mendis well even Indian batsman who are labelled as the best players of spin have troubled against mendis the records confirm what i have said here:- Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR unfiltered 9 16 388.0 66 1119 42 6/117 10/209 26.64 2.88 55.4 filtered 4 6 129.0 21 395 6 3/20 3/101 65.83 3.06 129.0 against india Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 3 6 163.1 24 478 26 6/117 10/209 18.38 2.92 37.6

dont you agree by giving indian batsmens stats against mendis there was an attempt to show down the indian bats...with an attempt to promote pak batsmen as better players??

[Taurus]

Mendis has been found out. He bowls medium pace cutters and batsman are playing him like that.

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by IAJ What is wrong with you? Kuch tou bardasht kiya kar yaar!

I have when you guys are fair in your comments. But you guys instigate these out me more often than not by including India or her team

Originally Posted by IAJ You are allways there to defend India even when India isn't mentioned.

Trust me to defend India when she is unfairly criticized (What else do you expect from a patriotic Indian?!). And there was a reference to Indian batsmen belittling them. So I stated the facts..whats wrong there?!

Originally Posted by IAJ Grow up and don't misuse the threads in your favour all the time!

Misuse and me? That was a tad harsh from you..don't you agree? And Growing up ? "Never Uncleji!"

[Extreme Pace]

dont you agree by giving indian batsmens stats against mendis there was an attempt to show down the indian bats...with an attempt to promote pak batsmen as better players AGAINST MENDIS??

Fixed, i don't know why the Indian posters feel so hurt. Pakistan has played Mendis the best and much better then India its a simple fact, maybe its because India went up against a relatively unknown Mendis or some other reason but fact is fact and give credit where it is due.

[Xohaib]

Originally Posted by dani2k Enjoy it while you can - shortest World T20 champion! (for how long - 11 months?). You anyways followed the leader (India) to be the champion. What you hold now is not new to us anyway..

But you know you never enjoyed what it feel like to be head of your arch rivals and that is far far a head.
Now you have never tastet this feat.
And whats more you will never.

[dani2k]

Enjoy either being in the past or the future mate, while we catch up with all the stats you have mentioned. Fact is that today, India is ahead of Pakistan in the official rankings..

You can continue to be in your dream land though .

[Khalil]

The Zimbabweans played Mendis very well

[Xohaib]

Originally Posted by dani2k Enjoy either being in the past or the future mate, while we catch up with all the stats you have mentioned. Fact is that today, India is ahead of Pakistan in the official rankings.. You can continue to be in your dream land though .

I think you are in your dream land,we have the weakest team right now and still you barely beat us.
What you have achieved is your best,now its over time.
And if talking about present,than you lost the worldcup matches miserably.

[dani2k]

^^ Time will tell who is right mate..and yes it is a fact that we lost the world T20 matches miserably. We will fix that.

[Xohaib]

yeah time will tell.

[LG]

Originally Posted by dani2k ^^ Time will tell who is right mate..and yes it is a fact that we lost the world T20 matches miserably. We will fix that.

Originally Posted by Xohaib yeah time will tell.

For God's sake, why fight over matters only time will tell.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by Xohaib I think you are in your dream land,we have the weakest team right now and still you barely beat us. What you have achieved is your best,now its over time. And if talking about present,than you lost the worldcup matches miserably.

been hearing this weakest team excuse for 6 years now . if your team gets weaker by day , its not our problem my friend .

[IM NOT YOU]

Originally Posted by shane Pakistan is one of, if not the, best team against spin at the moment. Unfortunately, most of the team is usually out by the time the spinners come on to bowl.

QOTW

its been a long time since ive seen a quote like this hahahah.
sadly spot on and extremely funny if you think about it.

[Xohaib]

Originally Posted by jusarrived been hearing this weakest team excuse for 6 years now . if your team gets weaker by day , its not our problem my friend .

I thought you had a strong team,getting knocked out without winning against a good team?

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by shane Pakistan is one of, if not the, best team against spin at the moment. Unfortunately, most of the team is usually out by the time the spinners come on to bowl.

OMG



so true but even then.