Pak Minister suspects India hand behind loss [Refuted by Imran Khan/Rashid Latif],

[faizpak]

Karachi: A senior Sindh minister accused India of influencing umpires to get Pakistan ousted from the Champions Trophy semifinal in South Africa.


Muhammad Ali Shah, the minister for Sports and a member of the Pakistan Cricket Board governing council, suspected India's role in the sub-standard umpiring, leading to Pakistan's defeat against New Zealand.


"Definitely, it is clear that India were miffed at not qualifying for the semi-finals after Pakistan lost to Australia and they took their revenge in their own way. They influenced the umpires to favour New Zealand," Shah told reporters.


Australian umpire Simon Taufel had wrongly adjudged Umar Akmal leg-before-wicket at a crucial stage of the match and even admitted to the mistake and apologised later.


Shah said he would not refrain from pressing the PCB to see that the International Cricket Council impose at least a one-year ban on Taufel.


"Taufel must be banned. He was against Pakistan," Shah fumed.


The minister, however, dismissed allegations by the Chairman of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Sports Jamshed Khan Dasti that Pakistan had deliberately lost the matches to Australia and New Zealand for ulterior motives.


"Nothing of that sort happened in South Africa. We fought till the end against Australia and against New Zealand we got some very bad decisions," he said.


Wasim Bari, the chief operating officer of the board also told PTI that he was surprised at Dasti's statement made to some television channels on Monday night.


"All I can say that the Champions Trophy is an ICC and it is their property and they organize it so we don't want to comment on something which is not our territory," Bari said.


He said that the ICC anti-corruption and security unit kept a close watch on the tournament and it was their responsibility to ensure it was clean.


"Since the ACSU is there to ensure there is no corruption in any match we are not in a position to make any comments on the allegations by Dasti," he said.

[Fish]

I'm going to watch this with interest, Pakistan made it clear when umpires penalised them 5 runs for tampering with the ball that in Pakistan culture you cannot call someone a cheat without having evidence.

Taufel has been called a cheat by Muhammad Ali Shah and he has not provided any evidence whatsoever.

I assume this is not acceptable to the PCB and the Pakistan people.

[Lightning]

Haha you've got to be kidding me. There are some delusional people and this dude is on the top.

And Fish, chill man. This guy is just an idiot obviously.

[Xoib]

these good for nothing ministers are embarrasing us.

[lil saeed anwar]

clearly no evidence shown...

[Poison]

[LG]

Originally Posted by Lightning Haha you've got to be kidding me. There are some delusional people and this dude is on the top. And Fish, chill man. This guy is just an idiot obviously.

There are also a couple of such idiots on PP as well. But you have to admit, they know how to entertain.

[Salazar]

Originally Posted by faizpak Karachi: A senior Sindh minister accused India of influencing umpires to get Pakistan ousted from the Champions Trophy semifinal in South Africa. Muhammad Ali Shah, the minister for Sports and a member of the Pakistan Cricket Board governing council, suspected India's role in the sub-standard umpiring, leading to Pakistan's defeat against New Zealand. "Definitely, it is clear that India were miffed at not qualifying for the semi-finals after Pakistan lost to Australia and they took their revenge in their own way. They influenced the umpires to favour New Zealand," Shah told reporters. Australian umpire Simon Taufel had wrongly adjudged Umar Akmal leg-before-wicket at a crucial stage of the match and even admitted to the mistake and apologised later. Shah said he would not refrain from pressing the PCB to see that the International Cricket Council impose at least a one-year ban on Taufel. "Taufel must be banned. He was against Pakistan," Shah fumed. The minister, however, dismissed allegations by the Chairman of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Sports Jamshed Khan Dasti that Pakistan had deliberately lost the matches to Australia and New Zealand for ulterior motives. "Nothing of that sort happened in South Africa. We fought till the end against Australia and against New Zealand we got some very bad decisions," he said. Wasim Bari, the chief operating officer of the board also told PTI that he was surprised at Dasti's statement made to some television channels on Monday night. "All I can say that the Champions Trophy is an ICC and it is their property and they organize it so we don't want to comment on something which is not our territory," Bari said. He said that the ICC anti-corruption and security unit kept a close watch on the tournament and it was their responsibility to ensure it was clean. "Since the ACSU is there to ensure there is no corruption in any match we are not in a position to make any comments on the allegations by Dasti," he said.

link? I believe FaizPak made this up

[Maula Jutt]

At this rate of stupidity and utter nincompoop-ness I think it's time I made a tour of the national assembly, senate and every other power corridor in Islamabad. A very well-timed drop of my gandaasa on a few well-fed fat necks is the order of the day and will take care of this chronic baboon-ery for at least a year.

[MIG]

Originally Posted by Fish I'm going to watch this with interest, Pakistan made it clear when umpires penalised them 5 runs for tampering with the ball that in Pakistan culture you cannot call someone a cheat without having evidence. Taufel has been called a cheat by Muhammad Ali Shah and he has not provided any evidence whatsoever. I assume this is not acceptable to the PCB and the Pakistan people.

Fish - unless you are an avid follower of Pakistani politics and actually care abuot Pakistan - you really have no idea what you are talking about.

An insinuation by a small time minister who has no connection with ICC by the name of "Muhammad Ali Shah" does not constitute a formal charge.

In your beloved Hairs case, he was an official of the ICC.

Btw, the local paanwalla (you may need to look up the word paan) also said the same thing and so did 300,000 doodhwallas and 645,982 rickshawallas - I guess you will be watching their lives with interest as well?

[aabbasi]

Originally Posted by Fish I'm going to watch this with interest, Pakistan made it clear when umpires penalised them 5 runs for tampering with the ball that in Pakistan culture you cannot call someone a cheat without having evidence. Taufel has been called a cheat by Muhammad Ali Shah and he has not provided any evidence whatsoever. I assume this is not acceptable to the PCB and the Pakistan people.

Bro, he is an exception and i am sure 80% people do not agree with his views. Taufel made an honest mistake and i don't think their was any involvement of India, ICC or other people..

We lost simply because be did not play to potential, and were unlucky a couple of times.

[AZ]

Shah sahab needs a cuppa:

[Sheikh]

Originally Posted by MIG Fish - unless you are an avid follower of Pakistani politics and actually care abuot Pakistan - you really have no idea what you are talking about. An insinuation by a small time minister who has no connection with ICC by the name of "Muhammad Ali Shah" does not constitute a formal charge. In your beloved Hairs case, he was an official of the ICC. Btw, the local paanwalla (you may need to look up the word paan) also said the same thing and so did 300,000 doodhwallas and 645,982 rickshawallas - I guess you will be watching their lives with interest as well?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by MIG Fish - unless you are an avid follower of Pakistani politics and actually care abuot Pakistan - you really have no idea what you are talking about. An insinuation by a small time minister who has no connection with ICC by the name of "Muhammad Ali Shah" does not constitute a formal charge. In your beloved Hairs case, he was an official of the ICC. Btw, the local paanwalla (you may need to look up the word paan) also said the same thing and so did 300,000 doodhwallas and 645,982 rickshawallas - I guess you will be watching their lives with interest as well?

I didnt think you would stand shoulder to shoulder with Muhammad Ali Shah as his loyal protector Mig.

[MIG]

Originally Posted by Fish I didnt think you would stand shoulder to shoulder with Muhammad Ali Shah as his loyal protector Mig.

Tell you the truth, people like Shah should be put away for life - and not for his views on cricket.

There is no love lost for ministers in Pakistan - most are usually hated by people so him saying something looney about cricket does not add to their integrity at all.

I dont stand shoulder to shoulder with him but you shouldnt use him as some sort of guage of public opinion either.

Hair's case is incomparable to Shahs - Hair was incharge of a game and he penalized Pakistan with intent to harm - Shah has only made a statement(presumably from his backside) but his statement has no bearing on any decision by ICC or outcome of any match.

[Yaser]

ye baysthe que bhar bhar kar raha hay

[Seen Sheen]

Originally Posted by Salazar link? I believe FaizPak made this up

nah mate,I myself watched that program and he was just ridiculous with his allegation.I cant understand,why all of a sudden,some people have started to believe that our team has become invincible and any defeat has got to do something with the unfair means used against us..

[Zeenix]

KARACHI: Former captain of Pakistan cricket team Imran Khan said Indian lobby along with umpires could involve in match-fixing in a semifinal against New Zealand.

Former captain said the poor level of umpiring during semifinal raised doubts. Though, over confident Pakistani team played badly but match-fixing allegations from standing committee against team are baseless.

The legendary bowler further said that there is no place of Younis Khan in the team and his role is not more then a captain. He said Muhammad Asif should be included in the team in place of Umer Gul in the semifinal.

Former captain Rashid Latif said standing committee for sports must give statements carefully. It would be better that parliamentarians take notice of corruption in politics instead of cricket.

http://geo.tv/10-7-2009/50416.htm

[urbestfriend]

Expressing his shock over questions being raised on Pakistan's spirit of the game, former captain Imran Khan on Tuesday backed skipper Younus Khan and said his commitment is immaculate.

"Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable", said Imran in an exclusive interview with NDT V.

The legendary Pakistan bowler further said that the match-fixing allegations against the team have left him in a state of shock.

"Match-fixing charges against Pakistan are shocking".

Imran said that the non-experts and people who are not knowledgeable about the game should restrict themselves on commenting on this delicate issue.

"Non-experts should not comment on cricket", said Imran.

He also backed Younus Khan and supported the Pakistan skipper by praising his level of commitment for the county and game.

"Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable and I don't feel he dropped the catch deliberately".

Earlier, facing allegations of match-fixing from a Parliamentarian, Pakistani cricketers got the much-needed backing of their Board, which said the players did their best in the Champions Trophy.

The Chairman of the National Assembly's standing committee on sports has accused the team of deliberately under-performing against Australia and New Zealand in the Champions Trophy.

http://cricket.ndtv.com/cricket/ndtv...8&keyword=news

[moumotta]

Former captain of Pakistan cricket team Imran Khan said Indian lobby along with umpires could involve in match-fixing in a semifinal against New Zealand.

Et tu Imran !

[Khurram]

Originally Posted by urbestfriend Expressing his shock over questions being raised on Pakistan's spirit of the game, former captain Imran Khan on Tuesday backed skipper Younus Khan and said his commitment is immaculate. "Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable", said Imran in an exclusive interview with NDT V. The legendary Pakistan bowler further said that the match-fixing allegations against the team have left him in a state of shock. "Match-fixing charges against Pakistan are shocking". Imran said that the non-experts and people who are not knowledgeable about the game should restrict themselves on commenting on this delicate issue. "Non-experts should not comment on cricket", said Imran. He also backed Younus Khan and supported the Pakistan skipper by praising his level of commitment for the county and game. "Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable and I don't feel he dropped the catch deliberately". Earlier, facing allegations of match-fixing from a Parliamentarian, Pakistani cricketers got the much-needed backing of their Board, which said the players did their best in the Champions Trophy. The Chairman of the National Assembly's standing committee on sports has accused the team of deliberately under-performing against Australia and New Zealand in the Champions Trophy. http://cricket.ndtv.com/cricket/ndtv...8&keyword=news

One and only Imran Khan

[McBoom]

Originally Posted by moumotta Et tu Imran !

No quotes, no direct allegations, pure masala BS.

[Adeel786]

I remember yesterday someone created a thread mentioning Imran says, Younis should retire from cricket or something along the lines.

Here is the video of Imran Khan backing Younis Khan.

(You will see the video on the bottom right after the article)

http://cricket.ndtv.com/cricket/ndtv...8&keyword=news

[dhump]

Agree with Great Khan, when ever he talks about cricket there is a lot of sence and weight in his words.
Shame on those politions they are doing such things for publicity.

[Gabbar Singh]

Good stuff from Imran but this has already been posted here -


http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ad.php?t=84103

[who_dares]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar Shah sahab needs a cuppa:

x 2

[OZGOD]

LOL. Are they really serious about this?

Mike Hussey defends Pakistan after being accused of deliberately losing By Justin Chadwick October 07, 2009 Australian batsman Mike Hussey has defended Pakistan after a Pakistani parliamentarian accused the national side of deliberately losing matches in the Champions Trophy. Jamshed Dasti, chairman of Standing Committee on Sports in the Pakistan Lower House, reportedly accused the team of purposely losing a pool match against Australia and a semi-final against New Zealand. "They lost to Australia just to keep India out of the tournament," Dasti said. But Hussey, who made 64 from 87 balls in that match as Australia secured victory with a single on the last ball, said there was no way Pakistan tried to lose. "I batted for quite a bit of that game and I can tell you they were going at 100 per cent," Hussey said. "They were charging around and really keen to get the wickets and then try to win the game. "From my point of view, where I was sitting, it's definitely false accusations." Pakistan captain Younis Khan has been at the centre of the controversy after an Indian newspaper alleged he was under investigation by the International Cricket Council's anti-corruption unit. Younis dropped a straight-forward catch at short cover during a critical point of Pakistan's semi-final loss to New Zealand. Dasti has demanded an explanation from the coach, captain and chairman of the board over the team's performances in South Africa. "We will be meeting with them on October 13 as we feel the team deliberately lost the games against Australia and New Zealand," Dasti said. "There are lots of doubts on the performance of the team and we feel it has to be cleared by the PCB (Pakistan Cricket Board) officials and the team management. "The way we lost in the semi-final, it has left the whole nation disappointed and the PCB has to give answers." AAP http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...018870,00.html

[OZGOD]

Is this Dusty guy for real?

[Gujar]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Is this Dusty guy for real?

Ignore him OzG, this has been a tradition in Pakistan for years since the early-mid nineties. We beat India so everyone thought we were world beaters, therefore it follows that any subsequent defeats must be due to match fixing.

Nothing to do with this being Pakistan and simply, This is how we do.

[haroonrasheed320]

Some people have a big mouth & Dusty is one of them he has got quite bit of dust now

[Poison]

Dasti.

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by urbestfriend Expressing his shock over questions being raised on Pakistan's spirit of the game, former captain Imran Khan on Tuesday backed skipper Younus Khan and said his commitment is immaculate. "Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable", said Imran in an exclusive interview with NDT V. The legendary Pakistan bowler further said that the match-fixing allegations against the team have left him in a state of shock. "Match-fixing charges against Pakistan are shocking". Imran said that the non-experts and people who are not knowledgeable about the game should restrict themselves on commenting on this delicate issue. "Non-experts should not comment on cricket", said Imran. He also backed Younus Khan and supported the Pakistan skipper by praising his level of commitment for the county and game. "Younus Khan's commitment is impeccable and I don't feel he dropped the catch deliberately". Earlier, facing allegations of match-fixing from a Parliamentarian, Pakistani cricketers got the much-needed backing of their Board, which said the players did their best in the Champions Trophy. The Chairman of the National Assembly's standing committee on sports has accused the team of deliberately under-performing against Australia and New Zealand in the Champions Trophy. http://cricket.ndtv.com/cricket/ndtv...8&keyword=news

In regards to the 'indian lobby' new...there's not even any bloody quotes!

And in regards to this news.......to think some idiots actually believed this stuff from a Geo ticket along the bottom but o quotes!

[Mohsin]

And some people fell for it hook line and sinker from a Geo ticker!

[nikred]

Dasti ko chad gayi masti.

[90MPH]

This was a non story in the first place. The Indian media like a pack of dogs jumped and danced as soon as this one idiot said the words match-fixing.

Hussey's words will not please some Indians at all.

[fawad_wellwisher]

Excellent gesture by Mr. Cricket to defend his cricketing brethren.

[AZ]

replace the D in Dushti with a G, and you will realise his true nature

[Serendipity]

well done Hussey!

non story, stupid guy whoever dasti shasti is........

[who_dares]

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...atch-by-Younus



LAHORE – Pakistan captain Younus Khan’s dropped catch in Saturday’s Champions Trophy semi-final against New Zealand has raised calls of foul play.
Younus conceded that the dropped catch cost his team the Champions Trophy. Indian newspaper Ahmedabad Mirror reported that the International Cricket Council Anti-corruption unit will be closely monitoring the footage of the match.
The match was evenly-poised when Younus dropped Grant Elliott in the covers off teenage fast bowler Mohammad Aamer in the 40th over. The New Zealand batsman was at 42 by that time with his team’s total at 4-165.
New Zealand needed 69 to win at that stage with six wickets in hand, but Elliott steered his team home with a crucial 104-run stand for the fifth wicket with skipper Daniel Vettori (41).
Younus ‘shockingly’ gave priority to the safety of an injured finger to making the catch when just a few days before the match he had said that injury does not matter when playing for the country.
The Pakistan captain showed in an after-match press conference the bandaged little finger of his right hand, and said the reason he missed the catch was because he was trying to protect a fractured finger.
“When I ran Gautam Gambhir out with the same hand, people clapped and said what a patriot, playing for the country with a broken finger,” he said.
“Now, the same people will call me names, they will suggest I was up to something. I am not worried about anything,” the paper further quoted him. The report added that though it was too early to find any hanky panky in the match but the tapes of the match were on way to the ACU.

[Mohsin]

“When I ran Gautam Gambhir out with the same hand, people clapped and said what a patriot, playing for the country with a broken finger,” he said. “Now, the same people will call me names, they will suggest I was up to something. I am not worried about anything,”

Ignore them, they're jahil idiots!

[Maula Jutt]

This Ahmedabad Mirror seems to be reporting a lot of things lately about Pakistan cricket. Much of it turns out to be false.

[muzher]

Indian newspaper Ahmedabad Mirror reported that the International Cricket Council Anti-corruption unit will be closely monitoring the footage of the match.

Enough said.

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by Salazar link? I believe FaizPak made this up

I saw it on ARY News´ programme Sports Corner today.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by who_dares http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...atch-by-Younus LAHORE – Pakistan captain Younus Khan’s dropped catch in Saturday’s Champions Trophy semi-final against New Zealand has raised calls of foul play. Younus conceded that the dropped catch cost his team the Champions Trophy. Indian newspaper Ahmedabad Mirror reported that the International Cricket Council Anti-corruption unit will be closely monitoring the footage of the match. The match was evenly-poised when Younus dropped Grant Elliott in the covers off teenage fast bowler Mohammad Aamer in the 40th over. The New Zealand batsman was at 42 by that time with his team’s total at 4-165. New Zealand needed 69 to win at that stage with six wickets in hand, but Elliott steered his team home with a crucial 104-run stand for the fifth wicket with skipper Daniel Vettori (41). Younus ‘shockingly’ gave priority to the safety of an injured finger to making the catch when just a few days before the match he had said that injury does not matter when playing for the country. The Pakistan captain showed in an after-match press conference the bandaged little finger of his right hand, and said the reason he missed the catch was because he was trying to protect a fractured finger. “When I ran Gautam Gambhir out with the same hand, people clapped and said what a patriot, playing for the country with a broken finger,” he said. “Now, the same people will call me names, they will suggest I was up to something. I am not worried about anything,” the paper further quoted him. The report added that though it was too early to find any hanky panky in the match but the tapes of the match were on way to the ACU.

Sorry Younus but it did not cost you the CT, it only cost you the chance to make the CT final.

[Afridi_Fan]

Another Indian source.

[Dubawi]

Why dont these Indians go to some other country to find masala news

[PakPassionate]

Match-fixing charges against Pak are shocking: Imran Khan

[Zain]

All these allegations being thrown against our captain and cricket team are completely ridiculous, i feel that if it was any other nations captain it would just be seen as a mistake made, which happens during playing sports. Younis took the wrong technique to take the catch trying to protect his finger, doesnt mean that he was throwing the match away or that he is involved in math fixing, we are being stero typed and this is not good at all, and is quite offensive i feel, that our nation is being pointed out for some sort of corruption without any solid evidence against them.
Younis dropping the catch cannot be considered as evidence as match fixing aswell, its just like a footballer missing a really good chance which always happens.
Also there was another match changing decision before that happened in pak innings when akmal was given out lbw, with a very bad decision, such a bed decision that pakistan fans would have evry right to start questioning mr taufell and if he wanted new zealand to win, however we are not doing that cause we know thats how sport works out, thats why we all love it.

[Zain]

Indians are very bitter that we tharashed them, stupid fools. they dont even want to play us im hearing that they are saying the dont want any series with us on neutral venues, i sense fear hahaha.

[dani2k]

Guys could you be a little measured about generalizing "Indians" as a whole please? One stupid section of the media apparantly wrote this story and you are criticizing Indians as a whole? Does it sound fair?

Not to mention your own politicians doing the same. Sour grapes are everywhere..no need to generalize a greater section of people just because of one.

[dani2k]

And I find it very funny when you guys quote the same Indian media when they do some positive stuff on Pakistani cricket (Miandad coaching the Pak team in designer pitches) and take their every word as true then..

Perhaps the Indian media aren't the only one practicing double standards?

[pun500]

Originally Posted by dani2k And I find it very funny when you guys quote the same Indian media when they do some positive stuff on Pakistani cricket (Miandad coaching the Pak team in designer pitches) and take their every word as true then.. Perhaps the Indian media aren't the only one practicing double standards?

cent percent true dani...

and its not as if their politicos refuted their statements...they went to the extent of calling up younus

indian media most often than not gets their stuff on pakistan from news channels such as geo and newspapers like dawn ...

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by Zain Indians are very bitter that we tharashed them, stupid fools. they dont even want to play us im hearing that they are saying the dont want any series with us on neutral venues, i sense fear hahaha.

And one "stupid fool" has also defended your players..care to read?

http://cricketnext.in.com/news/gambh.../44382-31.html

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by pun500 cent percent true dani... and its not as if their politicos refuted their statements...they went to the extent of calling up younus indian media most often than not gets their stuff on pakistan from news channels such as geo and newspapers like dawn ...

I guess they are no different then..Why this selective India bashing alone when things on the other side of the border is not much different either ?

[pun500]

Originally Posted by dani2k I guess they are no different then..Why this selective India bashing alone when things on the other side of the border is not much different either ?

because it is the easy way out

[chacha kashmiri]

I wouldnt put it past india

Just look at their track record

1) Ban our players after playing icl

2) Ban our players from ipl and dont pay them properly

3) Withdraw from paying us at last minute

4) Book a series with sri lanka which means they have to shorten the one they have with us as they get ranatunga sacked

5) Support the anti pakistan brigade in making sure the wc is not played in pakistan or dubai

[siddharth]

Originally Posted by dani2k I guess they are no different then..Why this selective India bashing alone when things on the other side of the border is not much different either ?

Absolutely.Indian media is like this and the reason why Dhoni kept them away too.Yet our Pak friends would love to quote if it is anything negative about Indians.

My word is ignore them totally!

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by Zain Indians are very bitter that we tharashed them, stupid fools. they dont even want to play us im hearing that they are saying the dont want any series with us on neutral venues, i sense fear hahaha.

Another "Stupid fool" lending support to Intikhab..source your own media..

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...in-india-ts-02

[waqar_ahmad]

Let me put it this way.

If I could, I would make YK the president over all these idiots sitting in the parliament

[dani2k]

And the irony is the "ICC corruption unit" story has been reported in one of the Pakistani sites

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...atch-by-Younus and quoted in post #39 of this SAME thread..and people only bash the Indian media..

Waare wah! Splendid stuff

[Uncle Sam]

Originally Posted by faizpak Karachi: A senior Sindh minister accused India of influencing umpires to get Pakistan ousted from the Champions Trophy semifinal in South Africa. Muhammad Ali Shah, the minister for Sports and a member of the Pakistan Cricket Board governing council, suspected India's role in the sub-standard umpiring, leading to Pakistan's defeat against New Zealand. "Definitely, it is clear that India were miffed at not qualifying for the semi-finals after Pakistan lost to Australia and they took their revenge in their own way. They influenced the umpires to favour New Zealand," Shah told reporters. Shah said he would not refrain from pressing the PCB to see that the International Cricket Council impose at least a one-year ban on Taufel. "Taufel must be banned. He was against Pakistan," Shah fumed.

What a great analysis by Mr Shah. A classic example of idiocy and incompetency when you are appointed on the basis of nepotism and bribery under a totally corrupt govt.
Had it been in my power, I would have hanged Mr Shah in Public.

If there was anyone to blame, it was our top order batting line. Looked like as if they have been influenced by BCCI to bat as if they were playing cricket reserved for mentally retarded.

[pun500]

Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri I wouldnt put it past india Just look at their track record 1) Ban our players after playing icl

funny each board had to make their own decision ... only icc has the power to ban players

2) Ban our players from ipl and dont pay them properly

our domestic league we can play whom we want and pay them how much we want ... why should we make apologies for that

3) Withdraw from paying us at last minute

the situation was not safe for our players and guess what happened after lanka bailed you out??

4) Book a series with sri lanka which means they have to shorten the one they have with us as they get ranatunga sacked

the lankan board approched us .... we dont need to take permissions from pak board to schedule our series

5) Support the anti pakistan brigade in making sure the wc is not played in pakistan or dubai

not 1 nation supported pak in the meeting after the attacks and you are just blaming bcci

dubai idea was shot down collectively by all ...

[Zain]

"DANI2K", you will have to agree with me that the indian media and cricket board more often then not always do try and put pakistan cricket down, to be honest do not no why its like this but seem to have a grudge against us, just seems odd could be jelousy dont know why.

[Saudi]

This is total nonsense from these jaahils, namely Shah and ******. Highly unlikely, but even if they did have any evidence of this, they would be better off contacting the relevant authorities instead of airing their BS to the whole world and dragging our name in the mud.

I just hope that all this is being totally ignored by our boys.

[Maula Jutt]

According to Geo Super, ICC has complained to PCB for the comments by Shah against Taufel. PCB has therefore issued a show cause notice to Shah.

[McBoom]

Shah and Gashti should be taken to court over the absurd statements that they have given.

More importantly, Mr. Shah should also be sued for his lack of brain cells.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Zain "DANI2K", you will have to agree with me that the indian media and cricket board more often then not always do try and put pakistan cricket down, to be honest do not no why its like this but seem to have a grudge against us, just seems odd could be jelousy dont know why.

India has some really cheap tabloid papers and people should stop reading that. And if its any consolation to you, they also put down Indian and Australian cricketers in the same way

[dani2k]

Originally Posted by Zain "DANI2K", you will have to agree with me that the indian media and cricket board more often then not always do try and put pakistan cricket down, to be honest do not no why its like this but seem to have a grudge against us, just seems odd could be jelousy dont know why.

To be fair to the BCCI they also supported the PCB by touring Pakistan when most of the other nations didnt. Reflect on the last Asia cup hosted by Pakistan. That was supposed to be the confidence building measure for the ultimately abandoned CT which was to be held in Pak.

26/11 changed the whole scenario and the BCCI has no option but to toe the line of the Indian Government. The Indian Government thinks it can extract some mileage through cricket relations since the PCB is directly under the Pak president. Whether this is the right thought process or not is an entirely different issue.

The Indian media to be fair has published some negative stuff about Pakistan. But again to be fair you guys have quoted the same Indian media on some positive stuff too. So it is both ways.

However on this case, let me ask you. We are talking about some "Ahmedabad Mirror" which has been quoted as the source. I am hearing such a name for the first time. Must be some gully paper whose credibility needs to be questioned in the first place. How did the Pakistani media publish the report of such a media house without checking the facts? Are they so busy that they can't do some verification or are they also in the business of "sensationalizing and manufacturing news" (which is no different than the Ahmedabad Mirror)? And how can you blame "Indians" as a whole and call them random names when just one website carried such a report? Tomorrow I can open a website and publish some nonsense. Just because it comes from an Indians hand's are you justified in portraying all Indians as villains? You get my point?

No way am I defending the BCCI or the Indian media. They are not angels. I am just trying to think objectively. As long as you guys criticize fairly I dont have any problems. But in this case it went a bit too far..

[Maula Jutt]

Indian media is definitely one of the worst (if not the worst) in the world. And they prove that on a regular basis time and again.

Their role in the current crisis about Pak team is the latest proof and takes the cake. They have successfully removed the spotlight from heir own team's embarrassing exit from the CT and are now raking in TRPs at Pak team's expense.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by dani2k And the irony is the "ICC corruption unit" story has been reported in one of the Pakistani sites http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...atch-by-Younus and quoted in post #39 of this SAME thread..and people only bash the Indian media.. Waare wah! Splendid stuff

Guess who they are quoting for the story? Ahmedabad Mirror.

[malikvslee]

Melbourne: Mike Hussey has defended Pakistani cricketers accused of throwing their Champions Trophy semi-final match against Australia, saying the allegations against Younis Khan and his men are "false" as he didn't sense anything fishy in the last-ball thriller.

Pakistan's cricketers have been accused of "deliberately underperforming" in the match by a parliamentarian, Jamshed Dasti, who is also the chairman of Standing committee on Sports in the Lower House.

"They lost to Australia just to keep India out of the tournament," Dasti has said.
But Hussey insisted that Pakistan gave their best in the match.

"I batted for quite a bit of that game and I can tell you they were going at 100 per cent," Hussey, who made 64 from 87 balls in that match, was quoted as saying by The Australian Associated Press.

"They were charging around and really keen to get the wickets and then try to win the game. From my point of view, where I was sitting, it's definitely false accusations," he said.

[mindless slogging]

New allegations:

Hussey involved in match-fixing aswell.

This will keep on going. Some people/fans/idiots always seem to think we give a game away when we lose, rather than accept that a team can be below-par. It's the nature of sport, and the reason why a team on paper will not always win.

[malikvslee]

oh heres the link

http://cricketnext.in.com/news/husse.../44386-30.html

[pun500]

Originally Posted by dani2k To be fair to the BCCI they also supported the PCB by touring Pakistan when most of the other nations didnt. Reflect on the last Asia cup hosted by Pakistan. That was supposed to be the confidence building measure for the ultimately abandoned CT which was to be held in Pak. 26/11 changed the whole scenario and the BCCI has no option but to toe the line of the Indian Government. The Indian Government thinks it can extract some mileage through cricket relations since the PCB is directly under the Pak president. Whether this is the right thought process or not is an entirely different issue. The Indian media to be fair has published some negative stuff about Pakistan. But again to be fair you guys have quoted the same Indian media on some positive stuff too. So it is both ways. However on this case, let me ask you. We are talking about some "Ahmedabad Mirror" which has been quoted as the source. I am hearing such a name for the first time. Must be some gully paper whose credibility needs to be questioned in the first place. How did the Pakistani media publish the report of such a media house without checking the facts? Are they so busy that they can't do some verification or are they also in the business of "sensationalizing and manufacturing news" (which is no different than the Ahmedabad Mirror)? And how can you blame "Indians" as a whole and call them random names when just one website carried such a report? Tomorrow I can open a website and publish some nonsense. Just because it comes from an Indians hand's are you justified in portraying all Indians as villains? You get my point? No way am I defending the BCCI or the Indian media. They are not angels. I am just trying to think objectively. As long as you guys criticize fairly I dont have any problems. But in this case it went a bit too far..

let me add my 2 cents to it

indian medias income is based on 3 things politics , bollywood , cricket

in the sports segment

all and sundry are bashed which includes indian cricketers as well with some phaltu players giving their opinion on players who have played 100+ tests

the rest of the cricketing world understands this and dont give out staments

but pak cricketers , pak former cricketers (imran sarfaraz zaheer abbas ramiz raja etc) , pak politicos , indian ex cricketers (phaltu ones like vijay dahiya , nikhil chopra , chetan sharma and some other so called experts) are always ready to give comments on their respective teams

the media grabs this controversial quotes adds the usual jazz and there you have it a full blown scandal

the newest addition to this since past 1-1/2 years is sourcing news from geo (ndtv is their partner i think ) and newspapers like dawn , jang etc..

so what do you get

for pak cricket news

masala news from geo , jang, dawn + pak ex-cricketers comments (often controversial if quoted by nawaz , basit ali , latif ) + pak cricketers official quotes + some pak so called expert jurnos = news!!

for indian cricket news

masala news from their sources + indian ex cricketers (phaltu ones like vijay dahiya , nikhil chopra , chetan sharma + contro ex cricketers (bedi, maninder singh) some other so called experts = news!!

only difference
the indian team rarely talks out in the open unlike the pak team

and politicans usually dont talk

the trouble is on this site only pak related media news is published which gives you the impression that they are not critical of indian players which infact is not true!!

[Kray_jackson7]

respect hussey

[malikvslee]

whats wrong with peoples if we win we put them on top of the world and if pakistan lose we disrespect them

[pun500]

Originally Posted by malikvslee oh heres the link http://cricketnext.in.com/news/husse.../44386-30.html

quoted from indian news site

[Kamranz]

Thank you Ozzy mates! Finally, there’s someone who speaks out in favour of us.

There's MANY Pakistan fans I've met at work have mention match-fixing topic. I've rejected there stupid thoughts. Like the one next door (Indian’s) create these allegation upon us to defame and hit the moral of the TEAM and country.

Unfortunately many Pakistani's fall for that Time after Time.

[sali]

MP Dasti and Sindh Sports Minister Dr Shah are the main culprit. They don't understand what impact this all will have on Pak team in the future. They will always be under pressure in big games.
Get a life loosers and leave the team alone.

[AZ]

I don't mean to tell the mods what to do, but IMO all match-fixing topics/threads/posts should be closed and deleted...enough of this BS already