Make Afridi captain of one-day side too: Inzamam

[Savak]

Make Afridi captain of one-day side too: Inzamam

PTI

Captaincy brings out the best in Shahid Afridi and given his impressive form since being handed charge of Pakistan’s Twenty20 side, the flamboyant all-rounder should also be made the one-day captain, feels former skipper Inzamam-ul Haq.

Inzamam’s comments come at a time when Pakistan is playing New Zealand in a one-day and Twenty20 series in Abu Dhabi and Dubai with Younus Khan leading the team in the 50-over matches and Afridi in Twenty20 fixtures.

“I think after becoming Twenty20 captain Shahid has shown that he has become more mature and responsible as a player also,” Inzamam said.

Inzamam, who is Pakistan’s most capped player with 120 Tests and 378 one-day appearances, said the board should make Afridi captain of the one-day side until the next 2011 World Cup.

“I think it would be a good choice because Afridi also gets along well with the other players of the team and has good communication skills and since he was given responsibility, he has been very effective in his individual performances as well,” Inzamam said.

Inzamam said Younus was struggling for runs in one-day cricket and this was not a good sign for the team.

“He is under pressure and unless the captain is contributing as a player it adds to the pressure on the other members of the team,” the former captain noted.

He suggested that the board appoint Younus as captain for the Test matches which would allow him to concentrate on his batting.

Inzamam also criticised Younus, coach Intikhab Alam and chief selector Iqbal Qasim for dropping all-rounder Shoaib Malik for the first one-dayer against New Zealand in Abu Dhabi.

“It is a stupid thing they did because he is too experienced a player to be dropped or sacrificed for accommodating two regular openers. Malik’s exclusion has spoilt the balance of the team and this will be obvious against stronger sides,” he cautioned.

Link: http://beta.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article44239.ece

[Luton Bad Boy]

Make mine with extra cheese, extra butter, extra kebabs and extra chill too: Inzamam

That's what the article heading should read..

Ex-players require a muzzle nowadays, all these silly comments are doing more harm than good..

[*sallu*]

Inzamam is just jealous because of YK's success as captain

[Sufi Malang]

Well if Younis continue to fail with the bat in Odis, then he must be replaced with AFridi sooner than later!

[Ladies Man]

Inzamam who?

[Easa]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Inzamam is just jealous because of YK's success as captain

Thank you, I am officially awake now. Was drowsy and struggling just a moment ago.

[bluffmasterv2]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Well if Younis continue to fail with the bat in Odis, then he must be replaced with AFridi sooner than later!

And if he drops some one like Umar Akmal then we will see it even more sooner !

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Inzamam is just jealous because of YK's success as captain

You can't be serious.

[Ladies Man]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan You can't be serious.

Why don't you post Inzi's win-loss ratio compared to YK's and prove him wrong

[Inswinger]

YK might have led us to a T20 WC but his success is no where close to the success Inzi had. Not only as the leader but his batting too.

[Kray_jackson7]

much props to inzi. a man who knows what he's talking about!

[Amir]

Originally Posted by makaveli786 much props to inzi. a man who knows what he's talking about!

yes yes now he does, but when he was captain he was terrible captain. lulz, you lot will take anything to glorify Afridi.

I think Afridi_fan is one of my fav posters here cause he cheers for Afridi but is sensible at the same time too and doesn't just jump on the first bandwagon. I don't mind AFridi was captain but we can't just drop our captain when he si not in form, cause Younis has been in form before and he was averaging 40 prior to this patch.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by Amir yes yes now he does, but when he was captain he was terrible captain. lulz, you lot will take anything to glorify Afridi. I think Afridi_fan is one of my fav posters here cause he cheers for Afridi but is sensible at the same time too and doesn't just jump on the first bandwagon. I don't mind AFridi was captain but we can't just drop our captain when he si not in form, cause Younis has been in form before and he was averaging 40 prior to this patch.

he is averaging less then 25 in 2009

[Amir]

Originally Posted by makaveli786 he is averaging less then 25 in 2009

Afridi averages less than 25 in his career. He has started to perform since T20 thanks to YK, and now everyoen is saying he should be captain...based on what...3 or 4 knocks? Let him first sustain it and then make him captain if he deserves it.

We know what YK is capable of, he was one of our best ODI bats prior to 2009. Too ridiculious to make Afridi captain right now on 3 or 4 months of good perfomance which YK should be somewhat attributed for. What happens once Afridi struggles? Replace him too with the in form player? If every team did that I am sure by now Watson would be captain of Australia, and Yuvraj for India.

[Ghoshtbuster]

If you inbreds actually read the quote [presuming the greasbags did not make this up like the infamous Ganga article], all Inzamam says is that Afridi is a good candidate for captaincy - and gives his reasons for it.

You see, reading. It is not hard.

[Mav3rick]

Originally Posted by Amir Afridi averages less than 25 in his career. He has started to perform since T20 thanks to YK, and now everyoen is saying he should be captain...based on what...3 or 4 knocks? Let him first sustain it and then make him captain if he deserves it. We know what YK is capable of, he was one of our best ODI bats prior to 2009. Too ridiculious to make Afridi captain right now on 3 or 4 months of good perfomance which YK should be somewhat attributed for. What happens once Afridi struggles? Replace him too with the in form player? If every team did that I am sure by now Watson would be captain of Australia, and Yuvraj for India.

Amir it is strange that you judge Afridi on his batting performance whereby the whole country know's that he is in the side because of his superb bowling skills, his batting is just a bonus when it comes.

YK was never our best, he's simply a decent batsmen when on song and nothing more, his captaincy leaves a lot of room for improvement as well and the decision of dropping Umer is simply unexplainable. I agree with most of what Inzamam said except for the last para where he wants to see the biggest failure (or second biggest failure) of 2009 to be permanently in the team because of an occasional good knock.

[JeeraBlade]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Inzamam is just jealous because of YK's success as captain

Most absurd comment I have heard "today".

What success --- team mates revolting against YK? At least Inzi earned the respect of every one on his team which YK has totally failed to do so far.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Mav3rick Amir it is strange that you judge Afridi on his batting performance whereby the whole country know's that he is in the side because of his superb bowling skills, his batting is just a bonus when it comes. YK was never our best, he's simply a decent batsmen when on song and nothing more, his captaincy leaves a lot of room for improvement as well and the decision of dropping Umer is simply unexplainable. I agree with most of what Inzamam said except for the last para where he wants to see the biggest failure (or second biggest failure) of 2009 to be permanently in the team because of an occasional good knock.

His batting is a bonus. But lately all this noise about Afridi being made captain is because of his maturity in batting. If Afridi was not batting like this, no one ex-cricketer would have said to make him captain and thus I would not need to look at his batting. Plus I was just comparing Afridi's batting since the previous poster brought up YKs average.

I never said YK is our best. I said prior to 2009, he was one of best which was true. He averaged near 40 and played some good match winning knocks like vs India.

[kingusama92]

Through Inzi's post retirement interviews we are seeing his true character. He seems to be like those auntys that ignite the flame for fights to begin and then they just stand back and watch.

Idiotic statement that is not helping anyone.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by Amir His batting is a bonus. But lately all this noise about Afridi being made captain is because of his maturity in batting. If Afridi was not batting like this, no one ex-cricketer would have said to make him captain and thus I would not need to look at his batting. Plus I was just comparing Afridi's batting since the previous poster brought up YKs average. I never said YK is our best. I said prior to 2009, he was one of best which was true. He averaged near 40 and played some good match winning knocks like vs India.

actually they have wanted him to be captain for years saying it might make him more mature so to say it is only recently is Bull.

ah ok so lets keep him in (!) and why kick misbah out? he averaged over 50 last year! and nasir jamshed averaged 49 last year! and fawad averaged over 100!!! What the hell are we doing with these guys out of the team (!) sarcasm (except for fawads case)

This year is nearly ended time to move on from last year!!!

[Amir]

I am done debating. I just realized I am debating with a child here (espicially considering you probably listen to Tupac 24/7 and thinks 786 represents Bismillah when it does not), I was merely using the 40 avg as a example to show why he was one of our better bats, not as the talking point. Furthermore, I used that average point to counter your "he is averaging less than 25."

If I wanted to post something as retarded as you jsut did, I would say "drop Afridi cause he averages less than 25" lulz.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by Amir I am done debating. I just realized I am debating with a child here (espicially considering you probably listen to Tupac 24/7 and thinks 786 represents Bismillah when it does not), I was merely using the 40 avg as a example to show why he was one of our better bats, not as the talking point. Furthermore, I used that average point to counter your "he is averaging less than 25." If I wanted to post something as retarded as you jsut did, I would say "drop Afridi cause he averages less than 25" lulz.

and i would say afridi is in the team as a bowler not a batter. he is pakistans leading wicket taker in he last 2 years.

and also it is called a username. so what do you make of otehr suernames?

oxy - eats, drinks and sleeps with oxy detergent?
momo - what of this?
ozgod - is he your australian god?

i am asking this because you seem to be so keen on pointing out dumb things.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by makaveli786 and i would say afridi is in the team as a bowler not a batter. he is pakistans leading wicket taker in he last 2 years. and also it is called a username. so what do you make of otehr suernames? oxy - eats, drinks and sleeps with oxy detergent? momo - what of this? ozgod - is he your australian god? i am asking this because you seem to be so keen on pointing out dumb things.

If I wanted to point out dumb things, I would just quote this post, oh look I did.

[shaaan]

Inzamam was the most passive captain we have had. I may be worng but can anyone point to a series win or any major tournament win under Inzamam captaincy...I say NONE. The only one was beating India in a ODI series in India. Other than that we never won a ODI series against a quality oponent under Inzamam captaicy outside of Pakistan.

This is third ODI series under YK's cpataincy. We have already won T20 Worldcup under his leadership. Inshallah we will win this series against Newzealand as well.

The point most people forget that we are playing all our games outside of Pakistan, which makes winning even more difficult.

[JeeraBlade]

^^
You are forgetting some of other YK accomplishments;

-- No getting along with team mate.
-- Team mate revolting aginst him
-- Yes, no, yes, no, flip/flop, decisions like a Yoyo.
-- totally inconsistent and outrageous team selection policies.

[Poison]

Originally Posted by Ghoshtbuster If you inbreds actually read the quote [presuming the greasbags did not make this up like the infamous Ganga article], all Inzamam says is that Afridi is a good candidate for captaincy - and gives his reasons for it. You see, reading. It is not hard.

Quote.

[Liverpool_Faizan]

wow. thank god none of YOU are running the PCB. You are almost as bad as the ones we currently have!

Geoff Boycott stated the obvious when he praised Younis. I can not believe all of you are blind to see what he has achieved. What? Does the man have to win every major trophy to be a successful captain?

Inzamam is a donut for making these comments. He should stick to shutting up and let Pak stabilize. What a muppet he is for these comments....

[shaaan]

Originally Posted by JeeraBlade ^^ You are forgetting some of other YK accomplishments; -- No getting along with team mate. -- Team mate revolting aginst him -- Yes, no, yes, no, flip/flop, decisions like a Yoyo. -- totally inconsistent and outrageous team selection policies.

Do you have the proof of first except from unknown sources...so that's in my mind is just speculation....

Agree with your seconf poit about flip flopping on cataincy decision.

Team selection.....not tatally his call...Intikhab and Iqbal Qasim have equal say now....so blame all three not just him.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by Liverpool_Faizan wow. thank god none of YOU are running the PCB. You are almost as bad as the ones we currently have! Geoff Boycott stated the obvious when he praised Younis. I can not believe all of you are blind to see what he has achieved. What? Does the man have to win every major trophy to be a successful captain? Inzamam is a donut for making these comments. He should stick to shutting up and let Pak stabilize. What a muppet he is for these comments....

no he needs to perform

[insaaniyat]

Don't worry. If PAk loses YK will blame them. Next thing you know, he will be the sole selector for overseas tour.

[whatever]

If Afridi is responsible only when he is the captain, it is a bad attitude. But I think Afridi is okay with YK. Inzi is just doing nothing good for the team here.

[Ghoshtbuster]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 Idiotic statement that is not helping anyone.

I would like you to point out, exactly [with precision and accuracy], which part of Inzi's statement [regarding Afridi as captain] is "idiotic".

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by JeeraBlade Most absurd comment I have heard "today". What success --- team mates revolting against YK? At least Inzi earned the respect of every one on his team which YK has totally failed to do so far.

Has there been any official news of any one revolting against YK?
Infact, the likes of Afridi and Gul and all the players who are confirmed a place in the side are always praise for Younis. The doubts are surrounding those who feel insecure.

Inzi is jealous because he didn't have the ability to exert the same authority on and off the field. Like it or not he was never a leader ( a natural one ie)

All this being said, he is still my favourite Pakistani batsman of all time

[JeeraBlade]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Has there been any official news of any one revolting against YK?

When there is smoke, chances are there is a fire. What is your take on his most recent resignation and then coming back for about 50th time?

Originally Posted by *sallu* Inzi is jealous because he didn't have the ability to exert the same authority on and off the field. Like it or not he was never a leader ( a natural one ie)

Has there been any official news that Inzi is jealous?

Has there been any official news that Inzi is jealous from YK's success but not by Afridi's success?

Has there been any official news that Inzi could not exert authority on the field or he was never a natural leader?

Speaking of natural leaders ---- the number of times YK has flip flopped and acted like a Yoyo, surely does not make him a leader. Leaders make calculated decisions and "STICK" to those decision. One day he wants captaincy, the next day he does not, one day he quits captaincy, next day he takes it back, one day retires from captaincy, next day he wants to play T20 again. Sure signs of "natural born leader"!

Originally Posted by *sallu* All this being said, he is still my favourite Pakistani batsman of all time

I understand.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by JeeraBlade When there is smoke, chances are there is a fire. What is your take on his most recent resignation and then coming back for about 50th time?

Well then, there has been smoke with EACH and EVERY captain in Pakistan's modern day cricketing history (even with Inzamam). If that is your criteria for the best leader, then Inzi is equally bad.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Well then, there has been smoke with EACH and EVERY captain in Pakistan's modern day cricketing history (even with Inzamam). If that is your criteria for the best leader, then Inzi is equally bad.

you do realise that if YK doesnt start performing we are going to have to drop him sooner or later.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by makaveli786 you do realise that if YK doesnt start performing we are going to have to drop him sooner or later.

Well, captaincy wise Younis Khan and Inzamam are not even close. YK is far far far ahead. Inzi was the most reactive and defensive captain we've had in a long time.

As for his batting, Class never goes, I am confident YK will start making runs soon

[JeeraBlade]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Well then, there has been smoke with EACH and EVERY captain in Pakistan's modern day cricketing history (even with Inzamam). If that is your criteria for the best leader, then Inzi is equally bad.

You still did not answer my question -- what is your take on YK's most recetn resignation? You did not answer any of the point I made, for that matter.

What was the smoke under Inzi's captaincy? How many times Inzi resign? Were there rumors of revolt?

[Savak]

Inzi did not win us a WC. In fact Inzi did not win any real tournament for Pakistan. Inzi was the first Pakistani Captain to lose a series to England in England. Not saying YK is the better captain but Inzi should just shut it.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by JeeraBlade You still did not answer my question -- what is your take on YK's most recetn resignation? You did not answer any of the point I made, for that matter. What was the smoke under Inzi's captaincy? How many times Inzi resign? Were there rumors of revolt?

I was in the middle of writing a very long response to you when my internet explorer shows an error message and restarts. Well thats Vista for you. Anyways, here I go all over again.

I will answer all your questions, but you must understand that certain information is completely beyond me and you and only the inside people know the real truth.

My take on Younis' resignation?
If YK resigned truly because the demands under which he undertook captaincy were not being met, then his decision is truly justified. You must understand that Younis is by no means under compulsion to lead the side and he feels that he needs to have control to be able to do the best possible job. If the PCB were not giving him what he needed to lead the team in the best possible manner, then how can you not blame him for resigning. He has always mentioned he will only lead the side under certain conditions and now that they are being provided he is back at the helm.

As for the smoke under Inzi's captaincy, well if you believe otherwise, my friend you are extremely Naive. There were constant rumours of strong favouritism and friendships. There have been constant groupings in Pakistan history and do you expect them to dissapear suddenly when Inzamam becomes captain? I am not blaming Inzamam for those groupings, but I expect you not to blame YK for those as well. It is just the way things are run in Pakistan. The weak people look to group together and deceive the deserving people at the top and vice versa.

Has there been any official news that Inzi is jealous?

Has there been any official news that Inzi is jealous from YK's success but not by Afridi's success?

Has there been any official news that Inzi could not exert authority on the field or he was never a natural leader?

Speaking of natural leaders ---- the number of times YK has flip flopped and acted like a Yoyo, surely does not make him a leader. Leaders make calculated decisions and "STICK" to those decision. One day he wants captaincy, the next day he does not, one day he quits captaincy, next day he takes it back, one day retires from captaincy, next day he wants to play T20 again. Sure signs of "natural born leader"!

My friend, there has been no official news because these are my opinions.

But what I can do is give you examples.

Remember the times when Younis was VC under Inzi's captaincy. If you used to watch those matches you will remember that Inzi was irregular in the side those days because of fitness issues and Younis used to lead the side quiet often.
Do you remember the differences in energies and positivity and the aggressive nature of the sides under the 2 captains with exactly the same team. Even when Inzi used to go off the field the difference was immediate. Younis took decisions and Inzamam reacted to them?
Our success under those 2 captains during the same time must also reflect in this although I do not have the official stats.

To you your opinion, to me mine
I can not expect to change yours and make you think Younis was a better captain than Inzamam, but in my books he was. Just as much as Inzamam was a better batsmen

[Howzat]

Yes, I support that. Make Afridi the captain- across all formats.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by I Yes, I support that. Make Afridi the captain- across all formats.

Yes, lets change the captain whos won us the world cup and helped us make the semi finals.

During that time, he was also our leading run scorer in the world cup and one of the better batsmen in the Srilanka one dayers.

[shaaan]

Can some one pull out Aridi's stats or 2008 (bowling wise), as a batsmen he is always a hit n miss. His bowling improved considerably this year and that's the reason he is in the team. I could be worng but between 2006-2008 he was a constant failure living of his reputation of earlier years..yet never dropped from ODI team.

Here we have YK who has performed reallyu well in last two yeasr (2007 and 2008) with average around 44 and we want him to be dropped out of the team after one year o bad perfromance.

If Aridi can get a free ride for all those years then why an't YK be given same tyoe of treatment? People just a really short memories o Aridi's failure.

[shaaan]

Agreed Sallu....infact YK average and strike rate was one of the top ones in T20 worldcup...so what if he doesn;t hit 6 all the time...You look at his strike rate and it was better than so called hard hitters...

[Savak]

Originally Posted by shaaan Can some one pull out Aridi's stats or 2008 (bowling wise), as a batsmen he is always a hit n miss. His bowling improved considerably this year and that's the reason he is in the team. I could be worng but between 2006-2008 he was a constant failure living of his reputation of earlier years..yet never dropped from ODI team. Here we have YK who has performed reallyu well in last two yeasr (2007 and 2008) with average around 44 and we want him to be dropped out of the team after one year o bad perfromance. If Aridi can get a free ride for all those years then why an't YK be given same tyoe of treatment? People just a really short memories o Aridi's failure.

Yk if he fails as a batsman, offers nothing to the team apart from his captaincy and decisions on the field which have on average been pretty good. However his poor batting form is one thing but he as a captain cannot afford to play innings like 16 of 49 deliveries, 19 of 37 deliveries. Its time he bats lower down the order now for a change.

If Afridi was not delivering with the ball, he would have been dropped a long time ago. I still believe he was trying to play himself in yesterday, the shot he got out to yesterday was just an innocent chip, it wasnt a really aggressive shot, it was his mistake that he hit it straight to the fielder.

The problem is that YK is not an allrounder. So his failure will be more critical to the team especially if he eats up a lot of deliveries while scoring his mediocre runs of 14-15-16.

[iafzal]

Do you guys seriously think Afridi can consistantly perform in batting?
A couple of good innings by YK and it will put all these talk to rest.

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by iafzal Do you guys seriously think Afridi can consistantly perform in batting? A couple of good innings by YK and it will put all these talk to rest.

when will these innings come? i have been hearing about them for a couple of months now

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by makaveli786 when will these innings come? i have been hearing about them for a couple of months now

He was very very consistant in the t20 world cup.
He was also very consistant in the srilanka one dayers.

Hes just had a bad champions trophy and 2 bad ODIs here. Guys, seriously, sooner or later, he will come good, and when he does, he will hurt oppositions.

BTW his poor champions trophy scores were 15,18 and 20. It shows he is getting off to starts but just no unable to convert. It is just a mental barrier thats it.

Before the CT his scores against Lanka read 76, 89, 44 and 23.
For an out of form Pakistani batsman, I will take these scores any day of the week

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by *sallu* He was very very consistant in the t20 world cup. He was also very consistant in the srilanka one dayers. Hes just had a bad champions trophy and 2 bad ODIs here. Guys, seriously, sooner or later, he will come good, and when he does, he will hurt oppositions. BTW his poor champions trophy scores were 15,18 and 20. It shows he is getting off to starts but just no unable to convert. It is just a mental barrier thats it. Before the CT his scores against Lanka read 76, 89, 44 and 23. For an out of form Pakistani batsman, I will take these scores any day of the week

they were all scored at a slow rate. and also his 5 innings since then have just been Very Bad

[Zaz]

Some1 should tell these retired players to keep schtum and stop talking rubbish

Inzy talks very negatively and is turning into a bit of a safraz nawaz, doesnt help at all

Make afridi captain cos yk has failed in a few innings is a joke

Malik cant be dropped cos hes too experienced - wot rubbish, no player how experienced should be retained for the sake of it

Just be quiet inzy

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by Zaz Some1 should tell these retired players to keep schtum and stop talking rubbish Inzy talks very negatively and is turning into a bit of a safraz nawaz, doesnt help at all Make afridi captain cos yk has failed in a few innings is a joke Malik cant be dropped cos hes too experienced - wot rubbish, no player how experienced should be retained for the sake of it Just be quiet inzy

better then the reason YK never wanted to drop them dont you think?

[Apnacricket]

Everything is right as it is.