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Old 10th November 2009, 12:30
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NO-YES-WAIT (3 magical words while running)

All the good runners between the wickets make use these 3 magical words to make the running between wickets an easier task. Indeed all good ODI teams (e.g. Aus/SA/NZ etc) practice this exercise. May be this practice is also adopted in all domestic teams, thats why all the batsman adopt to the routine from 1st day.

Due to these 3 words, the percentage of horrible mix-ups and confusions are pretty negligible. Only a sharp fielding effort and direct hit can trigger a run-out.

In case of Pakistan, nearly every match is filled with a run-out. And that run-out is due to some horrible-mixup. I realise that its a norm to run silently of running between the wickets in galli-mohalla cricket. So its obvious that nearly all of batsmen dont use this.

But can't the coach introduce such stuff as compulsory in training sessions. If such a training is given to Pakistani batsmen on a regular day-to-day basis than very soon the problem of run-out could be minimised.. otherwise runners like will always either be run out themselves or make the partner pay price for bad call
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:39
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It's not the fact that they don't make the call... it's that they don't make the right call. They just need to gain some common sense that if you hit it straight to the fielder it's probably best if you stay put.
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:44
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actually this is exact sequence:

Yes

Kya?

Oh mey kya Yess!

Achha ok, Yess!

Sabar, Sabar!

Kya?

O yaar, ki kendenyey Angraizi ich...

Kya?

O haan, WAIT WAIT!

Haan? Yes? Ok Yes Yes

Oh Nai Nai Sabar Kar!

Kya? No?!

Abay WAIT!

Kya?

Abay rehndey yaar, tu to Bonga he hai!


Butt gets confused, and gets run out.
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:46
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Originally Posted by kingusama92
It's not the fact that they don't make the call... it's that they don't make the right call. They just need to gain some common sense that if you hit it straight to the fielder it's probably best if you stay put.
Yes, they don't make the right call but some times they don't even bother to make one. Coach should do something about it.
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar
actually this is exact sequence:

Yes

Kya?

Oh mey kya Yess!

Achha ok, Yess!

Sabar, Sabar!

Kya?

O yaar, ki kendenyey Angraizi ich...

Kya?

O haan, WAIT WAIT!

Haan? Yes? Ok Yes Yes

Oh Nai Nai Sabar Kar!

Kya? No?!

Abay WAIT!

Kya?

Abay rehndey yaar, tu to Bonga he hai!


Butt gets confused, and gets run out.
haha! (weird to see buttah's fan saying this)
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar
actually this is exact sequence:

Yes

Kya?

Oh mey kya Yess!

Achha ok, Yess!

Sabar, Sabar!

Kya?

O yaar, ki kendenyey Angraizi ich...

Kya?

O haan, WAIT WAIT!

Haan? Yes? Ok Yes Yes

Oh Nai Nai Sabar Kar!

Kya? No?!

Abay WAIT!

Kya?

Abay rehndey yaar, tu to Bonga he hai!


Butt gets confused, and gets run out.
Priceless......
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:56
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It's a mental thing. I am sure these players rarely get run out so much in domestic cricket. But add a the crowd, the television audience and the pressure of playing of your country and you forget about the basics.
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Old 10th November 2009, 13:05
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Vaitiiiiiiiing vaitiiiiiiiiiing....yes....no..wai.....yes....oh sh
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Old 10th November 2009, 13:20
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Our running between the wicket has got to be one of the worst in International Cricket.
MOYO just runs half way down the wicket even when he hits it to a fielder inside the circle.
YK did the same yesterday. Just pathetic.
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Old 10th November 2009, 13:48
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Our running between the wicket has got to be one of the worst in International Cricket.
MOYO just runs half way down the wicket even when he hits it to a fielder inside the circle.
YK did the same yesterday. Just pathetic.
Thats why this issue needs to be resolved ASAP. You cannot compete against a better fielding side because they would make sure that any fumble like this is paid for....

Some serious coaching to address this problem can help resolve this problem in a short amount of time...
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Old 10th November 2009, 13:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar
actually this is exact sequence:

Yes

Kya?

Oh mey kya Yess!

Achha ok, Yess!

Sabar, Sabar!

Kya?

O yaar, ki kendenyey Angraizi ich...

Kya?

O haan, WAIT WAIT!

Haan? Yes? Ok Yes Yes

Oh Nai Nai Sabar Kar!

Kya? No?!

Abay WAIT!

Kya?

Abay rehndey yaar, tu to Bonga he hai!


Butt gets confused, and gets run out.


Oh man! Why dont I know you in real life?You are reallly funnay!
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Old 10th November 2009, 14:04
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Mo Yo and YK always run well between the wickets when they bat together....but they seem to struggle with others...Moyo has a good understanding with Malik too..in fact I have never seen Malik get run out so he is a pretty good runner...I think our openers don't have a good understanding with other players mainly cos they keep getting chopped and changed all the time
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Old 10th November 2009, 23:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar
actually this is exact sequence:

Yes

Kya?

Oh mey kya Yess!

Achha ok, Yess!

Sabar, Sabar!

Kya?

O yaar, ki kendenyey Angraizi ich...

Kya?

O haan, WAIT WAIT!

Haan? Yes? Ok Yes Yes

Oh Nai Nai Sabar Kar!

Kya? No?!

Abay WAIT!

Kya?

Abay rehndey yaar, tu to Bonga he hai!


Butt gets confused, and gets run out.

legendary.
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Old 11th November 2009, 00:52
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actually....i have heard from analysts / experts say that 'NO' shouldn't be a call bc it could be heard as 'GO'...

so only 2 calls need to be used....WAIT or YES....

i have mastered running btw the wickets since i started playing club cricket and i only use WAIT or YES...
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Old 11th November 2009, 02:44
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Originally Posted by UsmanhailsAfridi
actually....i have heard from analysts / experts say that 'NO' shouldn't be a call bc it could be heard as 'GO'...

so only 2 calls need to be used....WAIT or YES....

i have mastered running btw the wickets since i started playing club cricket and i only use WAIT or YES...
I guess this must not be clear to Pak team. We have three calls:

Go (was actually called NO)
????
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Old 11th November 2009, 03:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cricwiz
All the good runners between the wickets make use these 3 magical words to make the running between wickets an easier task. Indeed all good ODI teams (e.g. Aus/SA/NZ etc) practice this exercise. May be this practice is also adopted in all domestic teams, thats why all the batsman adopt to the routine from 1st day.

Due to these 3 words, the percentage of horrible mix-ups and confusions are pretty negligible. Only a sharp fielding effort and direct hit can trigger a run-out.

Actually, Australia doesn't use YES NO WAIT. From schoolboy cricket we were taught to only say YES or WAIT(ING). NO sounds too much like GO and can confuse people. Because really WAIT and NO both mean DON'T RUN.

If you don't hear YES, you don't run. And you trust your partner and don't second guess him so at least it minimises confusion.
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Old 11th November 2009, 05:44
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very good topic and serious problem. its our coach duty to fix this problem.

what our problem is that we dont communicate properly as required when running between wickets. i have heard many times what our players says to run

aja aja aja ek hai . aja aja ja do hai.

nahi nahi nahi nahi nahi

sabar kar sabar kar sabar kar

abey yaar ek run tha tm do ke liye keh rahe ho.

ruk jao ruk jao

so all this gets mix up and they get out sometime, its so noisy that they cant heard each other properly. so they should stick to basics which will make it easier for them.

yes-no-wait.
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Old 11th November 2009, 06:09
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Good thread. I think the most important call is "NO". It may sound like "GO" to someone whose mother language is English, with us South Asians, the calls would be standard as we talk to each other in a different language.

I am saying no is a more important call because it's the lack of this call that results in most run outs. The moment a shot is played, if either of the batsmen is unsure, it must be immediately conveyed to other other batsman. It's when a NO is not called in time that the other batsman runs half way across. You can not wait for the other batsman to either call or start off for a run before refusing it. Even if it's a defense where a run is impossible, you must call NO because it may not be that obvious to the other batsman. So basically, every batsman (at least in team Pakistan) should make a call on every single shot. That will reduce confusions and run outs.

Then, if you want a second or a third run, make a call while passing each other for the first run.
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Old 11th November 2009, 06:17
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aja, nahi, ek, do, teen, ek aur........should do.
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Old 11th November 2009, 06:30
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