US vehicles stopped at check-post

[pakistani_banda]

LAHORE, Dec 8: Local police detained three luxury jeeps with tinted glasses at a check-post near Sherpao Bridge in Cantonment area for search on Tuesday.

Those on board, said to be Americans, however did not let police search the black Land Cruisers.

Sources said policemen on duty stopped the vehicles in the afternoon after spotting their tinted glasses and missing number plates.

They asked the riders to come out of the vehicles for checking but they refused.

Later, the policemen came to know that those on board were Americans and related to the American Consulate in Lahore.

After the verification process on the arrival of some consulate officials, the foreigners were allowed to leave the check-post.

The stand-off which continued for a couple of hours blocked traffic on Abid Majeed and Jail roads.

source: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...-checkpost-929

the bloody nerve of the americans. if i would have been the officer i would have instantly arrested them under threatening security and law and order and defying direct orders from the police.

[waqar_ahmad]

What are you doing posting such stuff? Now wait till our pro-american brigade comes on here, and gives us a lecture on how this is necessary to eradicate terrorism.

[pakistani_banda]

let the post american brigade post what they want. as if they would ever come and live in pakistan.

[Mohsin]

Also reports that a local police officer (head officer, whatever you call them) had a gun held to his head by one of these $£%$£%%.
Also reports of these %$^^^$%$ messing up civilian cars for absolutely no reason!

Thanks to Ghaddar-e-Pakistan's Rehman Malik and Hussain Haqqani!

[Chasing Cars]

Originally Posted by pakistani_banda LAHORE, Dec 8: Local police detained three luxury jeeps with tinted glasses at a check-post near Sherpao Bridge in Cantonment area for search on Tuesday. Those on board, said to be Americans, however did not let police search the black Land Cruisers. Sources said policemen on duty stopped the vehicles in the afternoon after spotting their tinted glasses and missing number plates. They asked the riders to come out of the vehicles for checking but they refused. Later, the policemen came to know that those on board were Americans and related to the American Consulate in Lahore. After the verification process on the arrival of some consulate officials, the foreigners were allowed to leave the check-post. The stand-off which continued for a couple of hours blocked traffic on Abid Majeed and Jail roads. source: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...-checkpost-929 the bloody nerve of the americans. if i would have been the officer i would have instantly arrested them under threatening security and law and order and defying direct orders from the police.

Did this verification process involve $$$$$'s?
Who the hell do the American's think they are?

[insaftak]

you sure they were not talibans?

[Majid Khan]

Verification process was as follows:

Call from Jack Bauer (American intelligence official) to US embassy "Hi, yeh we are after Bin Laden who is trying to escape in the car in front, but these bloody Pakistani policemen have stopped us.. sort this out , will ya.. Bin laden is changing gears fast!"

Reply from the other side is "Dont worry, we'll get special agent RM on the case.. "

Pak policeman gets call from Special Agent RM: "Jaane do unhe, yeh Sadar saab ka hukam hai.. tumhe jurrat kaise howee hamaraa mayee baap ko rokne kee? tumharee naukri gayee! ".

Jack Bauer (Speaking to President Obama) : "Bloody hell, we nearly had Bin Laden.. but the Pakistanis stopped us from getting him again. !! "

I will let you all guess who is special agent RM !

[insaftak]

Originally Posted by Majid Khan Verification process was as follows: Call from Jack Bauer (American intelligence official) to US embassy "Hi, yeh we are after Bin Laden who is trying to escape in the car in front, but these bloody Pakistani policemen have stopped us.. sort this out , will ya.. Bin laden is changing gears fast!" Reply from the other side is "Dont worry, we'll get special agent RM on the case.. " Pak policeman gets call from Special Agent RM: "Jaane do unhe, yeh Sadar saab ka hukam hai.. tumhe jurrat kaise howee hamaraa mayee baap ko rokne kee? tumharee naukri gayee! ". Jack Bauer (Speaking to President Obama) : "Bloody hell, we nearly had Bin Laden.. but the Pakistanis stopped us from getting him again. !! " I will let you all guess who is special agent RM !

By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: All US officials and diplomats will now have to go through normal airport checks at the Islamabad Airport as the government has decided to withdraw the extraordinary concession offered to them after 9/11 by former president Pervez Musharraf. Under the concessions, the US officials and their vehicles enjoyed unchecked arrivals and departures and no scrutiny of their luggage was done at the Benazir Bhutto International Airport (BBIA), Islamabad.

On the direction of the Defence Ministry, the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has issued orders for the withdrawal of this facility as of Oct 15. The decision has been taken after reports that this concession was misused in the past.


New Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) have been devised and notified that would now make the Americans and the UN officials to go through normal checks.Gammon Gate of the BBIA, which was basically meant for food catering services and had a direct outside airport link without passing through immigration and customs checks, was specified for the US officials and for the UN officials too. This special facility allowed the Americans to have unchecked arrivals and departures to and from the Islamabad Airport.

Sources said this facility was massively misused and there were reports of even unauthorised and undeclared import of sensitive material and equipment, including weapons. This fact raised serious alarm bells among the Pakistani authorities and forced them to withdraw the facility that was given to the Americans by the former dictator without proper consultation and consideration.

According to sources, the kind of unusual concession is not even available to the president and premier of Pakistan who, though enjoy full protocol and VVIP treatment, go through the mandatory checks in the US.

Interestingly, Musharraf offered such concessions to the Americans despite Washington’s extraordinary strict immigration and security checks from all those coming from Pakistan, including the VVIPs. In one of Musharraf’s earlier official tours to the US, his media spokesman Rashid Qureshi, who was then a brigadier, was made to untie his military boots at the Dallas Airport.

In view of the security concerns, the CAA issued an order on September 25, announcing the withdrawal of Gammon Gate facility from foreign missions based in Islamabad. The operative part of the order reads: ìPursuant to the instructions received from the Defence Ministry vide letter No 2-1/2009-ASF dated Sep 16, 2009, the facility of use of Gammon Gate by the officials\vehicles of the US embassy and UN missions may be withdrawn w.e.f Oct 15, 2009.î

Documents show the government authorities admitting that the Customs and immigration authorities having no arrangements/staff to check the movement and crew and other foreigners, etc. “The equipment related to aeroplane, the crew and their personal luggage also passes through this gate. During checking, US vehicles and the luggage they carry to and from apron area are not properly searched\checked by the ASF staff deputed to control the entry\exit at the Gammon Gate,” a document said, adding in view of this use of the Gammon Gate by foreigners should be stopped forthwith as it was a serious security hazard.

The new SOPs that the Americans and UN officials are supposed to follow like rest of the foreigners include:

1. Foreign mission may like to use Rawal Lounge or normal lounges. In case of Rawal Lounge, it will be on payment basis as per the existing policy.

2. Vehicles of officials concerned of the above foreign missions will be parked in Rawalpindi Lounge car park. In case of non-availability of car parking space in Rawal Lounge car park, the vehicles may be parked in Govt Lane in General Car Park.

3. Proper security checks be ensured and other formalities, i.e. Customs and immigration be completed in case of operation of the aircraft to\from foreign destinations.

4. Proper arrangement for transportation of crew\passengers\technicians of respective aircraft and their baggage from lounge to the aircraft and vide versa also need to be done.

5. In case of international operation, the aircraft shall be parked on designated parking bay as allocated by the ATS Unit.

6. In case of International Departure, CAA (Apron Management Office) telephone number shall be informed at least one hour before the intended departure time of such operation.

These SOPs, according to the document, shall take effect from October 15, 2009.

US embassy spokesman Richard Snelsire, when contacted, said he did not know about the extraordinary concession offered to the US officials and diplomats at the BBIP. He said what he knew was the fact that even when the senior US officials arrived at the Chaklala airbase, they got through normal immigration and customs checks.

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its funny you blame the current sadar for this, this dumb policy was started under Chief of army staff General "constitution violator" Pervez Musharaf and this gov't trying to tackle this issue somewhat. MY problem with them is that they haven't done enough to stop american interference in pakistan

[Zechariah]

Conspiracy theories. HA.

[lahori]

this is stupid. The policemen should have kicked their a$$es out of the jeeps and held them on the ground American cops style. No one should be above the law.

[Random Aussie]

By our Staff Reporter. Nice.

[waqar_ahmad]

Once again, im warning you guys. You are risking an attack from the pro-american brigade. I have no idea why they haven't posted in here yet

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by lahori this is stupid. The policemen should have kicked their a$$es out of the jeeps and held them on the ground American cops style. No one should be above the law.

its not, only this report is stupid, i bet you any money this is propaganda spread by zaid hamid.
americans are in pakistan but they dont do any of that rubbish listed above, they follow the rules and are helping pakistan in this time of crisis.

i think we all should appreciate them instead of bashing them.

[Zechariah]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad Once again, im warning you guys. You are risking an attack from the pro-american brigade. I have no idea why they haven't posted in here yet

They will never post because we need the Americans in Pakistan because they are our best friends and they love our army and our nuclear assets and we need to treat them like kings because they are the biggest peace loving nation in the world.

[d0gers]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie By our Staff Reporter. Nice.

yeah the guys who write the wire stories at Dawn are pretty shy.

[lahori]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad Once again, im warning you guys. You are risking an attack from the pro-american brigade. I have no idea why they haven't posted in here yet

waqar , fyi I would probably belong to that brigade, but even I see this is wrong.

[googly]

Has anyone considered the possibility that those people might have been under diplomatic immunity?

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by googly Has anyone considered the possibility that those people might have been under diplomatic immunity?

What country do you know where refusing to open the locks on a car a come out for a search is diplomatic immunity?
This isnt diplomatic immunity...most of these Americans arent even in Pakistan...officially.

[Punisher]

Originally Posted by googly Has anyone considered the possibility that those people might have been under diplomatic immunity?

Yes that is clearly one possibility, but people under diplomatic immunity don't go around roaming in tinted cars with no number plates.

In my opinion, the police had every right to stop and check them. If the Americans don't follow orders accordingly, they could be charged with obstruction of justice.

If I was there here's what I would've done:

1) Call the media and have the whole incident on the news

2) Gather a lot of people around the car and form a circle, refusing to move out unless the Americans comply with the police's demands.

We as people need to stand up to this and not just expect the police to deal with it everytime.

[insaftak]

Originally Posted by Punisher Yes that is clearly one possibility, but people under diplomatic immunity don't go around roaming in tinted cars with no number plates. In my opinion, the police had every right to stop and check them. If the Americans don't follow orders accordingly, they could be charged with obstruction of justice. If I was there here's what I would've done: 1) Call the media and have the whole incident on the news 2) Gather a lot of people around the car and form a circle, refusing to move out unless the Americans comply with the police's demands. We as people need to stand up to this and not just expect the police to deal with it everytime.

who is going to charge them with obstruction of justice, Pakistan doesn't even have an attorney general

[pakistani_banda]

just in today's news paper, man when i read this my spirits were really lifted.

Suspicious vehicle impounded in Lahore LAHORE: Security personnel impounded on Friday a vehicle carrying three foreigners on suspicion that its number plate was fake. Police said two men and a woman in the car were filming the cantonment area. But a spokesman for the US Consulate General said the vehicle carried only a woman who was an employee of the consulate. Police said security agencies stopped the vehicle near the Sherpao bridge. But police insisted that the vehicle with IDL-1967 number plate had three occupants, including a woman. The vehicle was searched despite initial resistance by the three. Soon officials of the US Consulate reached the place. Police impounded the vehicle and after negotiations handed over the occupants to the consulate personnel. An official of the Sarwar Road police station said that security personnel had also seized the video-camera. The consulate spokesman told Dawn that security personnel had stopped the vehicle at a checkpoint and wanted to inspect it. According to him, the vehicle was taken to a police station and the ‘occupant was released’. This was the second such incident in Lahore in a week. A few days ago security agencies had stopped two vehicles carrying foreigners near the same place. The vehicles and the occupants were released after repeated interventions by the US Consulate.

source: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...+lahore--bi-11