Did Waqar really help Muhammad Aamer?

[Uncle Sam]

We have to wait and see, and I agree on the drop catches and dead wicket part but for now, its looks like as if Aamer has lost his sting.

[karachiite]

What sting?? He's bowling faster than ever

[*sallu*]

Hes yet to prove himself in test cricket but has he lost his sting?
No way, this was one of his fastest bowling in an innings.

He was hurrying the batsmen on more than one occassion.
He needs to sort a couple of things out which includes developing a potent inswinger but all in all he remains a great prospect and he just needs a little bit of luck to start going his way and he will be a different bowler

[Gooner]

Originally Posted by Uncle Sam We have to wait and see, and I agree on the drop catches and dead wicket part but for now, its looks like as if Aamer has lost his sting.

You make me laugh!!

They are bowling on a lifeless pitch and Waqar has only recently joined as a bowling coach.

[Gujar]

Man some of you are actually so fickle. Aamer bowled well on a dead pancake and either way, Waqar is not a miracle worker. He's been with the team for what, a week?

[Oxy]

Waqar has had a week or so with the bowlers.

Look at this pitch.

Waqar needs months with these guys

[Inswinger]

This thread has already outlived it's sell-by date.

[Oxy]

I meant 'Waqar OUT'

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Oxy Waqar has had a week or so with the bowlers. Look at this pitch. Waqar needs months with these guys

And yet in the thread Waqar appointed bowling coaches some PPers already reached conclusions that our seam positions and bowling actions have been perfected.
And that too by seeing one single photograph

[RumiNYC]

I want Waqar Yunis out..NOT


Stoopid Post of the week imho

[saeed-sohail]

I honestly believe that we are ruining aamir by playing him test cricket in these trying conditions. Some people will say he is learning on the job but to me longer he struggles to take wickets harder it will get for him mentally .

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail I honestly believe that we are ruining aamir by playing him test cricket in these trying conditions. Some people will say he is learning on the job but to me longer he struggles to take wickets harder it will get for him mentally .

This is what test cricket is about. Toiling.

He needs to learn that because he's going to come across such pitches time and time again.

Plus we need him to play against Australian batsman for experience.

I don't think we should overplay them though. He deserves rest here and there otherwise he will tire himself.

[Uncle Sam]

Originally Posted by Bouncer You freaking dumb ass.....Its only been one inning You have earned your nick today

try to come with a counter argument and read the post again which talks about agreeing on "wait and see" part instead of launching lame personal attacks....

[Umta]

WHat a dumb thread. Waqar just started, give him some time

[master_blaster]

Originally Posted by Uncle Sam We have to wait and see, and I agree on the drop catches and dead wicket part but for now, its looks like as if Aamer has lost his sting.

you are the biggest knee- JERK of all

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Oxy Waqar has had a week or so with the bowlers. Look at this pitch. Waqar needs months with these guys

Come on Oxy, you seems so sensible and mature, still giving childish response to these mature posters.

[saj001]

Wo waqar hai yea jadoo ki chari?

[Ryankhan]

Waqar definitely needs sometime to settle with the guys and once he settles then see what new tricks amir will learn. AMIR was good with his bowling, troubles the batsmen aswell. so i dont know what your talking about. i think this was the first time in test match that amir didnt got a wicket in1st innings well they only played 7 guys and 5 were out so cant say much.

[syedahsan]

Waqar Younus needs time.This is lifeless pitch and that means to contain the batsmen with good line length.Our bowlers couldn't do it. The tail ender ended up getting his best ever score.In paradox our batsmen are responding in a manner as if there is everything, in the pitch, for the Australian bowlers.If our batsmen are fighting to survive on this pitch then imagine them on a green top against Australian fast bowlers.After this very bit of opening performance I can very well write the script that Pakistan should consider themselves lucky if they loose the series by 0-1.

[Uncle Sam]

Originally Posted by Ryankhan Waqar definitely needs sometime to settle with the guys and once he settles then see what new tricks amir will learn. AMIR was good with his bowling, troubles the batsmen aswell. so i dont know what your talking about. i think this was the first time in test match that amir didnt got a wicket in1st innings well they only played 7 guys and 5 were out so cant say much.

Perhaps the only sensible reply.
The guy is always among wickets yet he went wicketless in almost 30 overs, and THAT was my point of concern. And now the argument of "this pitch being lifeless" also has a question mark against it after we saw Pakistan bat on the same strip.
Kinda funny that few of our young friends resorted under extending childish personal attacks and ended up laughing at themselves while a few others kept on giving the same argument of 'wait n see' which I already covered in the opening statement.

Thanks Ryan.

[saadjhussain]

give him some time. gosh.

and i'm sure he's working hard with gul

[Wassixpakistani]

give him some time. gosh. and i'm sure he's working hard with gul

Indeed , I hope for that as well . If there is anyone that can get Gul going again , It's Vicky bhai .

[Chasing Cars]

Originally Posted by Wassixpakistani Indeed , I hope for that as well . If there is anyone that can get Gul going again , It's Vicky bhai .

Lagta hai kuch aise
People just need to stop expecting miracles. Like Oxy bhai said, we need time
:aamir

[Muhammad]

Waqar has previous experience as a bowling coach with the national team, he is not a novice, he should be able to provide instant results.

He knew the deal when he took on the job, we had a test series against OZ in a few days, the bowlers should've been ready for the challenge. What's the point in them getting their act together in a couple of weeks by which time the series could already be lost?

Also don't forget he is the fielding coach, in that regard he has been even worse, decent fielders(Akmal U, Misbah) are now dropping catches as well.

[Mohsin]

DROP W....I MEAN SACK WAQAR!

On a lighter note, Waqar gave Aamer good advice in regards to head bands.

[Chasing Cars]

Originally Posted by Mohsin DROP W....I MEAN SACK WAQAR! On a lighter note, Waqar gave Aamer good advice in regards to head bands.

Seconded
:aamir

[akhtar]

I recall during the NZ series Waqar criticized umar on his technique of backing up at non strikers end by leaning on his bat. Well after watching umar bat last night i think waqar needs to have a word with him.

Aamer has been pakistans best bowler although he didnt take any wickets the guy tried his heart out.

[Radiance Of Australis]

Originally Posted by Mohsin DROP W....I MEAN SACK WAQAR! On a lighter note, Waqar gave Aamer good advice in regards to head bands.

Talk about knee-jerk reactions.Pfft!

Although i do agree with the second part

[pakmania]

Oh no ! Why didnt he take 7 wickets ? Why didnt he bowl 200 mph ? Why hasnt he taken more wickets than McGrath ?

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Uncle Sam We have to wait and see, and I agree on the drop catches and dead wicket part but for now, its looks like as if Aamer has lost his sting.

If he did, he has made him worse. Just kidding. But Aamir has lost his sting. I think this has to do with Aamir himself. All of sudden he thinks he is the best, those head bands shade etc, just trying to look cool now. He needs counseling badly. Or I see another talent getting wasted.

[daghetto]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat If he did, he has made him worse. Just kidding. But Aamir has lost his sting. I think this has to do with Aamir himself. All of sudden he thinks he is the best, those head bands shade etc, just trying to look cool now. He needs counseling badly. Or I see another talent getting wasted.

buddy, its called having very long hair, and not having the time to cut it when your out practicing and going country to country...

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by daghetto buddy, its called having very long hair, and not having the time to cut it when your out practicing and going country to country...

[Uncle Sam]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat If he did, he has made him worse. Just kidding. But Aamir has lost his sting. I think this has to do with Aamir himself. All of sudden he thinks he is the best, those head bands shade etc, just trying to look cool now. He needs counseling badly. Or I see another talent getting wasted.

It may be a speculation but sometimes tweaks take time to produce results and Aamer may harvest the fruits after a lil bit... I dunno, Waqar whom I great respect may have had a word with him and I have noticed that Aamer has gotten slightly closer to the stumps while delivering the ball which is ideally beneficial for left bowlers; however, he may need a lil more practice to deliver wicket taking balls.


Also, Aamer is bound to pick a long term injury if he continues playing that amount of cricket.. specially keeping this crazy and hectic schedule a head in England.

All the best to him and hopefully Waqar will bring the best out of Aamer.

[Tapori]

A 17 year old wears a head band most probably to try and emulate a hero of his who is now coaching him...

Lets hope he doesn't pick up any of Akhtars "style"

[Daytripped]

What's wrong with wearing a head band? Maybe its to keep his hair out of his face. Even if it is to look 'cool' one must keep in mind that he is, after all, 17. He's a teenager. You can't expect him to act like Moyo.

Some of you pp-ers are so fickle. The pitch was flat. And Aamer STILL bowled well. A couple of months ago some pper posted something like 'Right now Umar Akmal and Mohammad Aamer are all the rage... A couple of bad games later even they'll
be criticised and disliked'
And it really is true. Show some support.

[Savak]

Too early to bash Waqar yet given that its just been a few weeks since he took over, dont you think?

What about Inti, the man has been in charge for a year and a half and we are still seeing the same dropped catches, batting collapses again and again and again and there is no one to even remotely hold him accountable for this. He knows he can eat biryani, kheer in the dressing room on a daily basis in peace, and if he can do that why should he really give a crap about the team's performance on the field.

If he had any kind of self respect, he would have resigned a while ago. Does he even realize as a coach he will in his final stages be remembered for the team's only consistency in batting collapses, losing the game from winning positions and the daily dozen dropped catches? Yet audacity of this guy to turn up in front of the media with a smile on his face.

[Qelic]

no body is bowling yorkers or working on swing , i suppose either they r not following waqar or he is not telling them anything .

[amarmak]

Originally Posted by poisonjet no body is bowling yorkers or working on swing , i suppose either they r not following waqar or he is not telling them anything .

dude its not like you tell and i do.... it takes time and perseverance.

[adarsh_bang]

Originally Posted by poisonjet no body is bowling yorkers or working on swing , i suppose either they r not following waqar or he is not telling them anything .

dude... its not like waqar can teach them all in 1 day / 1 session... these aren't college theory classes.. if it would be so simple as teaching in a day then what would he do in the rest of the time ????

[161]

Can Waqar please teach him the LBW law.

Wasted a review on a ball that pitched a foot outside leg !!!

PAINDOOOO !!

[saadjhussain]

Originally Posted by kashif77 Can Waqar please teach him the LBW law. Wasted a review on a ball that pitched a foot outside leg !!! PAINDOOOO !!

only the captain's allowed to ask for a referral

[Cheguvera]

And Captain was in no position to see, so he has to go off of what his bowlers and keeper, who is the other person to be able to judge best, tell him to do and both Akmal and Amer failed the captain big time...

[saadjhussain]

aamer's owning ponting here.

[sultanator]

The thing is, they're all still wetting the ball! They should be keeping it dry. It doesn't take weeks to learn that. Just a simple 'NEVER WET THE BALL'.
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GIRLFRIEND DEEPTHROAT

[Bouncer]

Uncle Sam.....Come back to this thread again....Will Yaa?

[daghetto]

yep, waqar didnt help aamer...couldnt of said it better.. send him back now..

*looks at scorecard atm: aussies 41/3 *


*edit* aamer just hit watson with the bouncer and brung back that magic afridi kiss.hahahaha

[Uncle Sam]

Originally Posted by Bouncer Uncle Sam.....Come back to this thread again....Will Yaa?

Of course I am here, and THATS the kinda Aamer I missed in the first innings which raised a slight concern and I am glad my suspicion was wrong.
Again, I am not shocked to see my young friends like u who assume that every thread is actually a hosing down contest instead of understanding the concept of voicing one's opinion and coming up with a scholarly counter argument.

[saadjhussain]

aamer's being over used here.

[SUPERSAMI]

Just get him to bowl a little closer to the stumps and its all kosher