Tendulkar and ball tampering.... Watch this!! [Closed]

[Foozee]

can't believe Tendulkar just said this, and Indians are having a field day against Afridi

Afridi said it "it happens all over the world" and everyone jumps on him...

[itduzz]

tax cheater was running away from the question wat a loser.....

[Afridi_Fan]

Oh come on.

Cricket is a Religion, Tendulkar is a god.

well he is just a human being.

Only a god can say things like that, not a human being.

Although Afridi is not a Common Human being.

[Foozee]

seriously dude... guess everyone does it when tendulkar says it..ya know..he's the little master ...

[Amir]

At work, what did he say?

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Oh come on. Cricket is a Religion, Tendulkar is a god. well he is just a human being. Only a god can say things like that, not a human being. Although Afridi is not a Common Human being.

Tendulkar is Zues.. an immortal thunder god

Afridi is just mortal human being... pathetic

[zaid65]

It is time to relieve your frustration by talking about Sachin or Indian player's 10 year old incident.

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by Amir At work, what did he say?

Mike dennis accused him of ball tampering in a match... tendulkar gets one match ban..

tendulkar doesn't wanna discuss it with the journalist because it's controversial, he doesn't want to get into it

he says "ball tampering happens all over the world" nothing new

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by zaid65 It is time to relieve your frustration by talking about Sachin or Indian player's 10 year old incident.

this incident is very relevant to what is happening to Afridi friend, we agree what he did was retarded, but ive been to Indian cricket forums.. and they act as their bowlers are innocent as angels or sumthin, they forget that their own legend/god ball tampered and was banned..hence indian bowlers cheat too like everyone else

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Foozee Mike dennis accused him of ball tampering in a match... tendulkar gets one match ban.. tendulkar doesn't wanna discuss it with the journalist because it's controversial, he doesn't want to get into it he says "ball tampering happens all over the world" nothing new

This is good news. I now expect a flood of Indians to all of a sudden become Afridi fans and defending him.

[Afridi_Fan]

I don't think that Indians will become Afridi Fans and start to defend him.

Now they will say something like this,"Tendulkar was using his fingers (Nails) to get the dirt off the seam in that match. And Afridi took two bites, so Afridi deserves to be banned for 1 year. While Mike Dennis acted as a racist in that game and was just jealous of Tendulkar's status thats why he banned him for one game"

Oh Yeah and some Pakistani supporters will say that this is irrelevant to Afridi's instance.

[in_cutter]

Originally Posted by Foozee can't believe Tendulkar just said this, and Indians are having a field day against Afridi Afridi said it "it happens all over the world" and everyone jumps on him...

Yawwn, old news...

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by in_cutter Yawwn, old news...

Irrelevant too?

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Foozee this incident is very relevant to what is happening to Afridi friend, we agree what he did was retarded, but ive been to Indian cricket forums.. and they act as their bowlers are innocent as angels or sumthin, they forget that their own legend/god ball tampered and was banned..hence indian bowlers cheat too like everyone else

There is no point of getting angry what Indians think about us or what their players have done it in the past. It is always better to focus in present and if they are acting like looser, we are showing our self as bigger looser.

But the fact of matter is, you cannot compare Afridi's ball tampering issue with any other incident of ball tampering in the world. Rubbing the ball with saliva, nails, vs biting the ball openly like lunatic animal, is the same?

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by in_cutter Yawwn, old news...

the interview aint that old..he is wearing a mumbai indians jersey

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by zaid65 There is no point of getting angry what Indians think about us or what their players have done it in the past. It is always better to focus in present and if they are acting like looser, we are showing our self as bigger looser. But the fact of matter is, you cannot compare Afridi's ball tampering issue with any other incident of ball tampering in the world. Rubbing the ball with saliva, nails, vs biting the ball openly like lunatic animal, is the same?

ball tampering is ball tampering no matter how one does it..no difference

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by zaid65 There is no point of getting angry what Indians think about us or what their players have done it in the past. It is always better to focus in present and if they are acting like looser, we are showing our self as bigger looser. But the fact of matter is, you cannot compare Afridi's ball tampering issue with any other incident of ball tampering in the world. Rubbing the ball with saliva, nails, vs biting the ball openly like lunatic animal, is the same?

My dear friend.

Thing is everything comes under ball tampering, No?

So when has got the maximum punishment according to rules, why hanging onto it?

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Foozee this incident is very relevant to what is happening to Afridi friend, we agree what he did was retarded, but ive been to Indian cricket forums.. and they act as their bowlers are innocent as angels or sumthin, they forget that their own legend/god ball tampered and was banned..hence indian bowlers cheat too like everyone else

Get your facts straight. Sachin was just suspened for cleaning the ball without umpire's permission not tampering. ICC issued a statewmnt on this clearing him of all ball-tampering charges

[itduzz]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Get your facts straight. Sachin was just suspened for cleaning the ball without umpire's permission not tampering. ICC issued a statewmnt on this clearing him of all ball-tampering charges

ball tamperer, tax cheater,choker,......serial offender

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Get your facts straight. Sachin was just suspened for cleaning the ball without umpire's permission not tampering. ICC issued a statewmnt on this clearing him of all ball-tampering charges

Before ICC issued that statement mind telling me how manny effigies were burnt in India?

What exactly was the response of the Indians when the 1st statement came out "Sachin banned for one Match for Ball Tampering allegations?"

[Mohsin]

This isnt about Tendulkers ball tampering but rather about his comments for which we have former players, other idiots jumping on the band wagon.

It happens all over the world, not only in todays cricket etc etc etc

Someone send this to the ICC and we'll see if Afridi gets in further trouble for his...similar comments...

[fawad_wellwisher]

Typical Pakistani "If so and so accepts bribes, why shouldn't I" mentality. Instead of accepting what Afridi did was wrong, it is being rationalized because some 'cricket god' said something similar 10 yrs ago. No wonder Pakistan is in such a state. The standards of morality are set by what other cheats do not by the word of God!

[RexRex]

The lack of objectivity and contextualization on this forum by some is appalling !!

[Afridi_Fan]

Forget it, when one doesn't understand the point of some posts why bother.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by fawad_wellwisher Typical Pakistani "If so and so accepts bribes, why shouldn't I" mentality. Instead of accepting what Afridi did was wrong, it is being rationalized because some 'cricket god' said something similar 10 yrs ago. No wonder Pakistan is in such a state. The standards of morality are set by what other cheats do not by the word of God!

1) No one accepted what Afridi did was not wrong. People have been chatising Afridi on this board.
2) This interview was not 10 years ago.
3) The point is that when Afridi says "a lot of people ball tamper"...he gets lamblasted and this and that how he is lying. When Tendulkar says it, no one questioned him.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by Amir 1) No one accepted what Afridi did was not wrong. People have been chatising Afridi on this board. 2) This interview was not 10 years ago. 3) The point is that when Afridi says "a lot of people ball tamper"...he gets lamblasted and this and that how he is lying. When Tendulkar says it, no one questioned him.

Some will never understand this.

And by the way who said that whatever Afridi did was not wrong? I still have to see one poster on this entire forum who thinks so Including myself. My Point is Afridi did something against the laws, he got caught, he pleaded guilty. He was dealt according to the law. He got the maximum punishment according to rules. So whatelse we want?

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Amir 1) No one accepted what Afridi did was not wrong. People have been chatising Afridi on this board. 2) This interview was not 10 years ago. 3) The point is that when Afridi says "a lot of people ball tamper"...he gets lamblasted and this and that how he is lying. When Tendulkar says it, no one questioned him.

i dont think Sachin said lots of people tamper the ball. He was talking about removing dirt from the ball

[Momo]

Originally Posted by Indiafan i dont think Sachin said lots of people tamper the ball. He was talking about removing dirt from the ball

I disagree. I think he was talking about taking a shower with no clothes on.

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by Indiafan i dont think Sachin said lots of people tamper the ball. He was talking about removing dirt from the ball

I think we'll leave that....i dont want to get into those controversial things...all those thing i know they were unfortunate...it happens all over the world....there were plenty of controversies back then also etc etc

This does not seem like someone talking about simply taking dirt off the ball.

[Sameer K]

Afridi fan:
Afridi first claimed he was smelling the ball. He was also the captain of the team at the time.

He was caught, not for the first time, and then banned, again not for the first time.

He was punished. Case closed.

This does not mean he is suddenly absolved of all sins and we should somehow act like nothing happened.

He is a serial offender and should not be made captain of any team. Should you forgive him and let him play?? Sure

Should he captain your national side after being caught cheating more than once and then trying to lie about it?? Absolutely not.

[fawad_wellwisher]

Originally Posted by Amir 1) No one accepted what Afridi did was not wrong. People have been chatising Afridi on this board.

No many of his fans really haven't done that. This is his second offense which makes him a habitual offender. Laws of probability suggests he do something like this again. Why? because the guy doesn't think before he acts. The punishment for such repeat offenders who have underdeveloped thinking skills has to be severe.

2) This interview was not 10 years ago.

You miss the point completely. We cannot bring such examples to rationalize our behaviour. The focus has to be how do we ensure this doesn't occur in the future so that we are not in the uncomfortable position of being criticised by clowns like Daryl Hair. How does posting Tendulkar's interview help us with our behaviour modification. Please think about this.

3) The point is that when Afridi says "a lot of people ball tamper"...he gets lamblasted and this and that how he is lying. When Tendulkar says it, no one questioned him.

Let Tendulkar do whatever he wants. We need to modify our own behaviour if we want to be respected by others. Biting a ball to cheat has never been done in the history of international cricket on live TV. This behaviour should never be condoned like it being done here by some of his fans when they he has been punished and now be made captain of the Pakistan team. That means to me that they think what happened in the last ODI was something very trivial. I think not.

[Foozee]

I don't think some posters here understand the point of this thread very well and are rambling on without thinking

[Sameer K]

" I was just trying to smell it"
"""But you can't smell through your teeth""""
" Sometimes you can do... don't ask negative questions"

[Momo]

at the grand panic on the mere mention of Tendulkar's er questionable activities.

[Foozee]

no one is denying here what Afridi did....

I want to point out that someone like Sachin Tendulkar did a similar thing and in this interview clearly said that "everyone does ball tampering"

simple as that...

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by Indiafan i dont think Sachin said lots of people tamper the ball. He was talking about removing dirt from the ball

muhaha thats what they all say..

its like when a kid goes to school and forgets to do his homework, and the teachers asks him... why didn't you do the homework mister??

kid replies "my dog ate my homework "

[Howzat]

Now a lo of fans in Pakistan will sleep peacefully assuming that all is well.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Foozee muhaha thats what they all say.. its like when a kid goes to school and forgets to do his homework, and the teachers asks him... why didn't you do the homework mister?? kid replies "my dog ate my homework "

Well ICC agreed to his explanation and gave a press release acquiting him from ball tampering charges

[Ryankhan]

crap, someone should show this to stupid icc.

[Afridi_Fan]

Abey yaar! Pehley Pakistani fans kam they kia jo ab ye Indians ko bhi kheench ker ley aaya Foozee?

Sachin is an angel, who can do no wrong.

Now Indian fans can sleep in peace from my side.

[RexRex]

Originally Posted by Foozee no one is denying here what Afridi did.... I want to point out that someone like Sachin Tendulkar did a similar thing and in this interview clearly said that "everyone does ball tampering" simple as that...

He didnt say everyone 'does ball tampering' , did he ? What are his exact words ?

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by I Now a lo of fans in Pakistan will sleep peacefully assuming that all is well.

No they are not sleeping well, this is why they have to dig into Google to find the similar news ( 10 year old) to satisfying and repair their damaged ego, which has been bruised by their cheater legend.

[Momo]

At least one Pakistani is not going to sleep now.

[Afridi_Fan]

Zaid65 even wants to retain his captaincy

[giri26]

Originally Posted by Foozee muhaha thats what they all say.. its like when a kid goes to school and forgets to do his homework, and the teachers asks him... why didn't you do the homework mister?? kid replies "my dog ate my homework "

Okay then even if we accept that Sachin did tamper the ball, how does that justify Afridi biting the ball in front of millions of viewers? I know that you guys are having a field day digging up some incident which happened almost 10 years ago but it does not mean anything to us. Someone in this thread mentioned that this video should be shown to ICC but I am confused as to what's the point of that is? Is the ICC going to drop charges on Afridi stating that once the great Tendulkar was accused of ball tampering so Afridi eating the ball is okay?Brilliance of posters in here is amazing to be frank. If it makes you guys feel happy then I don't mind.

We know what transpired after Sachin was accused and someone starting a thread after 10 years is not going to affect us. Enjoy defending "MR. Clean" Afridi.

[Momo]

^
giri, a pity you didn't read the opening post (all of two lines) because if you had, you wouldn't have had to type so much.

[Momo]

I predict this thread to 'grow' at an alarming rate.

[fawad_wellwisher]

Originally Posted by giri26 Okay then even if we accept that Sachin did tamper the ball, how does that justify Afridi biting the ball in front of millions of viewers? I know that you guys are having a field day digging up some incident which happened almost 10 years ago but it does not mean anything to us. Someone in this thread mentioned that this video should be shown to ICC but I am confused as to what's the point of that is? Is the ICC going to drop charges on Afridi stating that once the great Tendulkar was accused of ball tampering so Afridi eating the ball is okay?Brilliance of posters in here is amazing to be frank. If it makes you guys feel happy then I don't mind. We know what transpired after Sachin was accused and someone starting a thread after 10 years is not going to affect us. Enjoy defending "MR. Clean" Afridi.

It doesn't and his fans can't seem to see through this basic fact. Imagine giving such examples to Afridi as they will just reinforce his behaviour!

[giri26]

Originally Posted by Momo ^ giri, a pity you didn't read the opening post (all of two lines) because if you had, you wouldn't have had to type so much.

I read the posts but still fail to get the point. Even English 2005 ashes win was laced with controversy when MARCUS Trescothick came out in the media and accepted that his team used Murray Mints to shine the ball. So why not bring that up to. Lots of people in the past have agreed to lots of things bringing that up does not make any sense to me.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by Momo I predict this thread to 'grow' at an alarming rate.

I 2nd that, with most posts from Indians and some of our Pakistani posters whose National pride has been hurt by ball tampering.

[Foozee]

cmon where are the indian trolls...im expecting more backlash

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by zaid65 No they are not sleeping well, this is why they have to dig into Google to find the similar news ( 10 year old) to satisfying and repair their damaged ego, which has been bruised by their cheater legend.

oh oh... guys guys Zaid is an Indian..haha

this just proves it...

change your flag, stop hiding...

[Momo]

Originally Posted by giri26 I read the posts but still fail to get the point. Even English 2005 ashes win was laced with controversy when MARCUS Trescothick came out in the media and accepted that his team used Murray Mints to shine the ball. So why not bring that up to. Lots of people in the past have agreed to lots of things bringing that up does not make any sense to me.

So your major problem is why only Sachin was quoted and nobody else?

[SAM'S]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Well ICC agreed to his explanation and gave a press release acquiting him from ball tampering charges

remember ICC overturns whatever decision goes against India? because....

ICC=BCCI

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Momo At least one Pakistani is not going to sleep now.

He is not only have disturbed sleep, but has gone into total silence mode. Prior to the cheating incident, he was giving two statements per day about 2011 world cup preparation to world cup being played in Mars.

[RexRex]

Originally Posted by Foozee cmon where are the indian trolls...im expecting more backlash

Some well laid bait , foozee ... but we're not biting.

[giri26]

Originally Posted by Momo So your major problem is why only Sachin was quoted and nobody else?

No, my major problem is why quote anyone? It does not dilute the problem Afridi is in. It does not justify what Afridi did. So no matter how many threads are opened quoting different people giving speeches about ball tampering being a universal practice, Afridi is still banned for two matches. So I dont see a point of that.

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by RexRex Some well laid bait , foozee ... but we're not biting.

Romalli Rotti would turn up soon...

[Momo]

Originally Posted by zaid65 He is not only have disturbed sleep, but has gone into total silence mode. Prior to the cheating incident, he was giving two statements per day about 2011 world cup preparation to world cup being played in Mars.

Who are you talking about? There's some misunderstanding surely.

[Momo]

Originally Posted by giri26 No, my major problem is why quote anyone? It does not dilute the problem Afridi is in. It does not justify what Afridi did. So no matter how many threads are opened quoting different people giving speeches about ball tampering being a universal practice, Afridi is still banned for two matches. So I dont see a point of that.

That's precisely why I suggested reading the opening post. The point was never to get that ban reversed.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by giri26 No, my major problem is why quote anyone? It does not dilute the problem Afridi is in. It does not justify what Afridi did. So no matter how many threads are opened quoting different people giving speeches about ball tampering being a universal practice, Afridi is still banned for two matches. So I dont see a point of that.

The thing is my darling friend.

We are not defending his two matches ban. He deserves that and he got that according to rules so no one is defending that.

We are trying to say if Afridi will face consequences for sating that ball tampering happens, why the others were let go by the ICC?

I hope you understand what I mean.

[giri26]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan The thing is my darling friend. We are not defending his two matches ban. He deserves that and he got that according to rules so no one is defending that. We are trying to say if Afridi will face consequences for sating that ball tampering happens, why the others were let go by the ICC? I hope you understand what I mean.

So how many people have we seen biting the ball on the cricket field and then accepting it after the game?

[Momo]

Originally Posted by giri26 So how many people have we seen biting the ball on the cricket field and then accepting it after the game?

The one and only.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Well ICC agreed to his explanation and gave a press release acquiting him from ball tampering charges

Indians believe Bucknor hates them. ICC think otherwise.

Are you going to accept the ICC chamcha on that one or just when it suits you?

[Geordie Ahmed]

The purpose of this thread was very simple yet a whole bunch of people have failed to understand it - lets try to simpliyfy it

1) Afridi cheated - he was wrong to do so and he has rightly been punished

2) Afridi claims tampering is done by all teams (this links with point 4, wait for it)

3) Sachin was accused of Ball Tampering - he was later acquited by the ICC, good for him and his fans, that still does not change the purpose of the thread

4) Sachin says in relation to ball tampering, and i quote "it happens all over the world"

Now the purpose of this thread is not points 1 and 3 - the purpose is points 2 and 4 - geddit?

[Thank God It Is ME]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Oh come on. Cricket is a Religion, Tendulkar is a god. well he is just a human being. Only a god can say things like that, not a human being. Although Afridi is not a Common Human being.

In a country where god cheats? I mean cricketing god of inida.

[Momo]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed The purpose of this thread was very simple yet a whole bunch of people have failed to understand it - lets try to simpliyfy it 1) Afridi cheated - he was wrong to do so and he has rightly been punished 2) Afridi claims tampering is done by all teams (this links with point 4, wait for it) 3) Sachin was accused of Ball Tampering - he was later acquited by the ICC, good for him and his fans, that still does not change the purpose of the thread 4) Sachin says in relation to ball tampering, and i quote "it happens all over the world" Now the purpose of this thread is not points 1 and 3 - the purpose is points 2 and 4 - geddit?

Well summed up, Geordie.

The problem I am afraid though is, barring an odd exception or two, people have gone out of their way to not understand the point of the thread.

I don't think they are interested in understanding the point of the thread.

[Cryin Out Loud]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed The purpose of this thread was very simple yet a whole bunch of people have failed to understand it - lets try to simpliyfy it 1) Afridi cheated - he was wrong to do so and he has rightly been punished 2) Afridi claims tampering is done by all teams (this links with point 4, wait for it) 3) Sachin was accused of Ball Tampering - he was later acquited by the ICC, good for him and his fans, that still does not change the purpose of the thread 4) Sachin says in relation to ball tampering, and i quote "it happens all over the world" Now the purpose of this thread is not points 1 and 3 - the purpose is points 2 and 4 - geddit?

Sure. Except, in my opinion, Afridi's trying to justify what he did by comparing it to ball tampering all the world over is unjustified.

Ball tampering happens, yes. The way in which Afridi did it takes him way beyond the pale.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Cryin Out Loud Sure. Except, in my opinion, Afridi's trying to justify what he did by comparing it to ball tampering all the world over is unjustified. Ball tampering happens, yes. The way in which Afridi did it takes him way beyond the pale.

Afridi's justification is irrelevant really - what he did was wrong, plain and simple.

The point is Afridi says all teams do it, he gets heavily criticised and called a liar (By many Indians hence the original post) . . . . .

Now we have Tendulkar saying (although he said it a while ago) ball tampering happens all over the world . . . .

Now the big question, is Sachin a liar like Afridi? (Since im guessing like Afridi he did not provide any evidence)

[Momo]

I'll make it easier for those who are a bit slow on the uptake:

This video has proved, among other things, that anybody who called Afridi a liar for his statement about everybody tampering with the ball, also now believes that Sachin is a liar (whether he has balls to accepts it or not is a separate matter).

[Foozee]

Originally Posted by Momo I'll make it easier for those who are a bit slow on the uptake: This video has proved, among other things, that anybody who called Afridi a liar for his statement about everybody tampering with the ball, also now believes that Sachin is a liar (whether he has balls to accepts it or not is a separate matter).

but how can Zeus lie? can't be

[dps2009]

This is a doctored video, someone has too much time on their hands.

Watch the original video

[fawdu]

Originally Posted by Foozee can't believe Tendulkar just said this, and Indians are having a field day against Afridi Afridi said it "it happens all over the world" and everyone jumps on him...

This video has been doctored.

Original video.

[giri26]

Originally Posted by fawdu This video has been doctored.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Momo I'll make it easier for those who are a bit slow on the uptake: This video has proved, among other things, that anybody who called Afridi a liar for his statement about everybody tampering with the ball, also now believes that Sachin is a liar (whether he has balls to accepts it or not is a separate matter).

All the video has proved is that soemone with too much time on their hand had sat and doctored a video

[kadam]

LOL! What a major KLPD for all here. /endthread

[Foozee]

ok close thread hehe.. some idiot sent me this vid.. knew it was too good to be true

[s2k]

now where did all the posters go?

god cant be wrong,afridi is victimised,ICC=BCCI,temdulkar said the same thing.....etc etc etc

[Foozee]

still doesnt change the fact that cricket god got suspended for ball tampering

[dps2009]

Originally Posted by Foozee still doesnt change the fact that cricket god got banned for ball tampering

I thought ICC retracted the banning?