Global liveability report (top 10 and bottom 10 cities)

[srh]

The Economist Intelligence Unit’s liveability rating quantifies the challenges that might be presented to an individual's lifestyle in 140 cities worldwide. Each city is assigned a score for over 30 qualitative and quantitative factors across five broad categories:
* Stability
* Healthcare
* Culture and environment
* Education
* Infrastructure

The categories are compiled and weighted to provide an overall rating of 1–100, where 1 is considered intolerable and 100 is considered ideal.


Top 10 cities
Rank Country City Rating
1 Canada Vancouver 98.0
2 Austria Vienna 97.9
3 Australia Melbourne 97.5
4 Canada Toronto 97.2
5 Canada Calgary 96.6
6 Finland Helsinki 96.2
7 Australia Sydney 96.1
8= Australia Perth 95.9
8= Australia Adelaide 95.9
10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7


Bottom 10 cities
Rank Country City Rating
130= Senegal Dakar 48.3
130= Iran Tehran 48.3
132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3
133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1
134 Cameroon Douala 43.3
135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9
136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0
137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9
138= Algeria Algiers 38.7
138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7
140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5

http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

[Radiance Of Australis]

Originally Posted by srh The Economist Intelligence Unit’s liveability rating quantifies the challenges that might be presented to an individual's lifestyle in 140 cities worldwide. Each city is assigned a score for over 30 qualitative and quantitative factors across five broad categories: * Stability * Healthcare * Culture and environment * Education * Infrastructure The categories are compiled and weighted to provide an overall rating of 1–100, where 1 is considered intolerable and 100 is considered ideal. Top 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 1 Canada Vancouver 98.0 2 Austria Vienna 97.9 3 Australia Melbourne 97.5 4 Canada Toronto 97.2 5 Canada Calgary 96.6 6 Finland Helsinki 96.2 7 Australia Sydney 96.1 8= Australia Perth 95.9 8= Australia Adelaide 95.9 10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7 Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

WHAAAT?!?!?
Its a conspiracy I'm telling you.Karachi is not one of the lowest!

[161]

Originally Posted by Super Sixer WHAAAT?!?!? Its a conspiracy I'm telling you.Karachi is not one of the lowest!

Is there any other major city in the world that suffers from massive blackouts like Karachi ?

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by srh The Economist Intelligence Unit’s liveability rating quantifies the challenges that might be presented to an individual's lifestyle in 140 cities worldwide. Each city is assigned a score for over 30 qualitative and quantitative factors across five broad categories: * Stability * Healthcare * Culture and environment * Education * Infrastructure The categories are compiled and weighted to provide an overall rating of 1–100, where 1 is considered intolerable and 100 is considered ideal. Top 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 1 Canada Vancouver 98.0 2 Austria Vienna 97.9 3 Australia Melbourne 97.5 4 Canada Toronto 97.2 5 Canada Calgary 96.6 6 Finland Helsinki 96.2 7 Australia Sydney 96.1 8= Australia Perth 95.9 8= Australia Adelaide 95.9 10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7 Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

Mustafa Kamal's fans must be happy with these results.

[adarsh_bang]

this is a very interesting thread , thanks for sharing the info bro but here 's the funny thing, i haven't even heard the names of a couple of cities listed there among the top ten , lol on the other hand the last ten names look quite familiar , but then this wasn't a popularity rating was it,its livibility they're talkin ..
p.s ; could someone pls tell me where exactly does bangalore stand ?my guess is rank number 129 , lol;)

[Garuda]

Originally Posted by adarsh_bang this is a very interesting thread , thanks for sharing the info bro but here 's the funny thing, i haven't even heard the names of a couple of cities listed there among the top ten , lol on the other hand the last ten names look quite familiar , but then this wasn't a popularity rating was it,its livibility they're talkin .. p.s ; could someone pls tell me where exactly does bangalore stand ?my guess is rank number 129 , lol;)

Which top 10 city you haven't heard of ?

I was trying to find the complete list to check Bangalore. But couldn't. But recently there was a poll (within India) and Bangalore was 3rd I think after Delhi & Mumbai.

[Looney]

Originally Posted by Super Sixer WHAAAT?!?!? Its a conspiracy I'm telling you.Karachi is not one of the lowest!

i love my city but Karachi certainly is not exactly liveable because we cannot even get the basics right

[Cheguvera]

Tehran?

[srh]

I think they only select one city (Karachi) from Pakistan for their 140 cities list.

[Zechariah]

No surprise to see Canadian and Australian cities getting top marks

Vancouver and Toronto great multicultural cities of the world

[ShehryarK]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Mustafa Kamal's fans must be happy with these results.

[desi_boy]

Originally Posted by srh Top 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 1 Canada Vancouver 98.0 2 Austria Vienna 97.9 3 Australia Melbourne 97.5 4 Canada Toronto 97.2 5 Canada Calgary 96.6 6 Finland Helsinki 96.2 7 Australia Sydney 96.1 8= Australia Perth 95.9 8= Australia Adelaide 95.9 10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7 Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

don't know whether to be jumping for joy as three Canadian cities are in top five with one at the top or feel sad that Karachi Pakistan's (brain power)came so low! wonder how Lahore (Pakistan's heart) fared in the survey?

[azfar wali]

Good to see toronto in the top but Karachi in the bottom is a joke, I am pretty sure there are way worse cities in places like Indian, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

[161]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Mustafa Kamal's fans must be happy with these results.

Don't think he has much control over some of the factors this list was based on. Those are societal problems for all of Pakistan.

[Mohsin]

So Mustafa Kamal gets awards in regards to how well he has done as mayor of Karachi and how Karachi has progressed yet its in the bottom 10...right.

[srh]

Originally Posted by Mohsin So Mustafa Kamal gets awards in regards to how well he has done as mayor of Karachi and how Karachi has progressed yet its in the bottom 10...right.

May be Karachi was ranked last at 140 before Mustafa Kamal started as mayor?

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by srh May be Karachi was ranked last at 140 before Mustafa Kamal started as mayor?

Well the article is dated Jan 2010....and Kamal was mayor for a long time so i doubt it.

And Tehren joint with Dakar...weird index

[Random Aussie]

Number 3 baby! And we have cricket

[Cover Drive]

Originally Posted by desi_boy don't know whether to be jumping for joy as three Canadian cities are in top five with one at the top or feel sad that Karachi Pakistan's (brain power)came so low! wonder how Lahore (Pakistan's heart) fared in the survey?

Lahore came 11th in the list

[kingusama92]

What?! Vancouver is first? Toronto is better.

Nice to see Canadian cities in the top 10.

I am surprised out of all Pakistani cities - Karachi is the one to get into the bottom ten.

[ahsan17]

I believe the same rankings also put Delhi and Mumbai above Islamabad and Lahore. Also, ***, Tehran in bottom 10?

For the rankings to be taken seriously, they first have to make sense. The problem with the economist is that it has a history of being biased against certain regions/states, and these biases make their way into these rankings.

[srh]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 What?! Vancouver is first? Toronto is better. Nice to see Canadian cities in the top 10. I am surprised out of all Pakistani cities - Karachi is the one to get into the bottom ten.

Most likely they only pick one city from Pakistan and that is Karachi. I wonder how many cities they pick from India; probably 3: Bombay, Delhi and Bangalore.

[tanzeel]

Karachi is a dump. There's no two ways about that. The one thing that does surprise me though is why Bombay is not on the list as every single person I know who's been to both cities, regardless of whether they're Pakistani or Indian, agree that Karachi is (a) Cleaner (b) Less crowded due to its huge size and (c) Better developed than Bombay. Personally, I've never been there but a couple of my friends (from both countries) were pretty surprised at this when I showed them this list.

[zimran72]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 What?! Vancouver is first? Toronto is better. Nice to see Canadian cities in the top 10. I am surprised out of all Pakistani cities - Karachi is the one to get into the bottom ten.

Anyone that has visited both cities will tell you quite bluntly that Vancouver is a more attractive city that Toronto in many regards.

[ahsan17]

Originally Posted by tanzeel Karachi is a dump. There's no two ways about that. The one thing that does surprise me though is why Bombay is not on the list as every single person I know who's been to both cities, regardless of whether they're Pakistani or Indian, agree that Karachi is (a) Cleaner (b) Less crowded due to its huge size and (c) Better developed than Bombay. Personally, I've never been there but a couple of my friends (from both countries) were pretty surprised at this when I showed them this list.

I think you might call this the perceived liveability. It really depends where they are getting their data and information from.

For instance, the failed state rankings mentions that they use media articles to develop their rankings. Now anyone with half a brain knows that the media is not neutral and has certain interests which are depicted in their reporting. Thus that makes the whole failed state rankings unreliable and makes it perceived failed state rankings.

Same might be the case here, however it's not clear how these rankings were came about.

The reality on the ground might well be different, however, this what the group doing the rankings believe are the rankings.

For instance, I don't think any sane person knowing what they're talking about would say Mumbai is more liveable than Islamabad. However from what we're told in the media, someonemight well believe Mumbai is more liveable than Islamabad.

[Qelic]

Originally Posted by srh The Economist Intelligence Unit’s liveability rating quantifies the challenges that might be presented to an individual's lifestyle in 140 cities worldwide. Each city is assigned a score for over 30 qualitative and quantitative factors across five broad categories: * Stability * Healthcare * Culture and environment * Education * Infrastructure The categories are compiled and weighted to provide an overall rating of 1–100, where 1 is considered intolerable and 100 is considered ideal. Top 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 1 Canada Vancouver 98.0 2 Austria Vienna 97.9 3 Australia Melbourne 97.5 4 Canada Toronto 97.2 5 Canada Calgary 96.6 6 Finland Helsinki 96.2 7 Australia Sydney 96.1 8= Australia Perth 95.9 8= Australia Adelaide 95.9 10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7 Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

LOL . list is right !

[Poison]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Number 3 baby! And we have cricket

Sydney's still better *sigh*

[tahaqureshi]

Vancouver is spectacular. No two ways about it.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by Poison Sydney's still better *sigh*

Yes it is. Provided you have a bucketload of money and can live in the Inner city, East or North East. And pay $10 in tolls every time you want to drive.

But the rest of Sydney is not better than Melbourne.

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by tahaqureshi Vancouver is spectacular. No two ways about it.

Zero nightlife though. This may not bother PPers

[dinakar]

I had a belief that Tehran is in the same league as Dubai or Kuwait. is it not?

[tahaqureshi]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Zero nightlife though. This may not bother PPers

True that.

But I spent my time there mainly when I was young so I didn`t have much chance to do that anyways.

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Zero nightlife though. This may not bother PPers

Yeah I have heard that as well. I have only been to Vancouver once and I was quite small.

I could care less about a city`s nightlife. Not like I will be indulging in that stuff. Although Toronto is not to shabby in those matters.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 What?! Vancouver is first? Toronto is better. Nice to see Canadian cities in the top 10. I am surprised out of all Pakistani cities - Karachi is the one to get into the bottom ten.

I have lived my whole life in the Toronto area but I must say Vancouver is better. Its amazing. A mix of the big city and the mountains and scenery. Its clean and its near proper mountains you can ski on. Has gorgeous parks.

You have no idea how gorgeous Van City is...I suggest you go out and visit

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by Amir I have lived my whole life in the Toronto area but I must say Vancouver is better. Its amazing. A mix of the big city and the mountains and scenery. Its clean and its near proper mountains you can ski on. Has gorgeous parks. You have no idea how gorgeous Van City is...I suggest you go out and visit

I was just kidding around. Its the pride for Toronto that makes me sad that Vancouver is higher then us. Plus those Canucks fans really suck.

I went to Vancouver 6-7 years ago. It truly is stunning. Beautiful weather - picturesque settings and extremely nice people barring the odd idiots wearing Canucks jerseys.

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yes it is. Provided you have a bucketload of money and can live in the Inner city, East or North East. And pay $10 in tolls every time you want to drive. But the rest of Sydney is not better than Melbourne.

I am born and bred Randwick/Bronte boy and the East rocks {rosters s u c k at the moment**,outside the beach and inner city area's its a bit average.

The trams are a big plus for Melb and the road out of Melb in any direction is extra special!

[lil saeed anwar]

Originally Posted by Super Sixer WHAAAT?!?!? Its a conspiracy I'm telling you.Karachi is not one of the lowest!

Its the truth mate, Face it

[sada90]

5 Canada Calgary 96.6

i guess my city is still on top 5...

[Poison]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yes it is. Provided you have a bucketload of money and can live in the Inner city, East or North East. And pay $10 in tolls every time you want to drive. But the rest of Sydney is not better than Melbourne.

Don't be dissing us Westies

[Garuda]

Originally Posted by tanzeel Karachi is a dump. There's no two ways about that. The one thing that does surprise me though is why Bombay is not on the list as every single person I know who's been to both cities, regardless of whether they're Pakistani or Indian, agree that Karachi is (a) Cleaner (b) Less crowded due to its huge size and (c) Better developed than Bombay. Personally, I've never been there but a couple of my friends (from both countries) were pretty surprised at this when I showed them this list.

Its not only the 3 things you mentioned. They are all under infrastructure.

The rankings consider these

* Stability
* Healthcare
* Culture and environment
* Education
* Infrastructure


I don't know about Karachi but Bombay has very good Education facility, Some of the best hospitals in India, Culture is amazing. That is the only city in India where women go out late night which they can't do in any other Indian cities.

[Saqs]

Originally Posted by Poison Don't be dissing us Westies

What was that gang called again? The ones with the wierd hats and wierd lingo?

Sydney has the greatest harbour in the world, bar none. But I cannot agree with a city who's main sporting focus is on Rugby League/Union.

Melbourne > Sydney in most aspects.

[Poison]

Esh Ladz. Hahah.

And Union is pretty small in Sydney, League is definitely the major focus during winter though; best sport bar none. I'm slowly watching a lot more AFL though *shifty*

[Saqs]

Haha that's it.

Sydney just need more teams in the AFL to spark some more interest.

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by Poison Esh Ladz. Hahah. And Union is pretty small in Sydney, League is definitely the major focus during winter though; best sport bar none. I'm slowly watching a lot more AFL though *shifty*

Union small in Sydney, turn it up! Sydney is the home of rugby in Australia, there are more teams than you can poke a stick at. there are high schools with over 30+ teams each. After playing rugby for 20+ years i can tell you it is not small in sydney in any way shape or form.

Your a sick man if you like that girly aerial ping pong over rugby and rugby league. Id rather watch soccer{and thats rarely watched game in my house** than AFL
We new south welshmen and queenslanders would love to have more rugby and league played in VIC but the men are to girly down that way and we always have to take the men from up here so it can be played down there! Trying to stop laughing now!

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by saqibsalman Haha that's it. Sydney just need more teams in the AFL to spark some more interest.

No you guys can keep it down in VIC, dont want any more of that AFL rubbish up here!

[Poison]

Originally Posted by sillyfan Union small in Sydney, turm it up! Sydney is the home of rugby in Australia, there are more teams than you can poke a stick at. there are high schools with over 20+ teams. After playing rugby for 20+ years i can tell you it is not small in sydney in any way shape or form. Your a sick man if you like that girly aerial ping pong over rugby and rugby league. Id rather watch soccer{and thats rarely watched game in my house** than AFL We new south welshmen and queenslanders would love to have more rugby and league played in VIC but the men are to girly down that way and we always have to take the men from up here so it can be played down there! Trying to stop laughing now!

Aerial ping pong (as you put it) is actually pretty intense. I didn't say I preferred it to rugby league mate, Doggies supporter through and through. Haha I don't know, Union isn't as big as RL in the Western Suburbs, maybe out in the Shire area or toward the city Union is bigger than RL, I don't really know.

[madaboutlfc]

Originally Posted by srh The Economist Intelligence Unit’s liveability rating quantifies the challenges that might be presented to an individual's lifestyle in 140 cities worldwide. Each city is assigned a score for over 30 qualitative and quantitative factors across five broad categories: * Stability * Healthcare * Culture and environment * Education * Infrastructure The categories are compiled and weighted to provide an overall rating of 1–100, where 1 is considered intolerable and 100 is considered ideal. Top 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 1 Canada Vancouver 98.0 2 Austria Vienna 97.9 3 Australia Melbourne 97.5 4 Canada Toronto 97.2 5 Canada Calgary 96.6 6 Finland Helsinki 96.2 7 Australia Sydney 96.1 8= Australia Perth 95.9 8= Australia Adelaide 95.9 10 New Zealand Auckland 95.7 Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

typical biased BS.. Apart from Vienna which is gorgeous Tehran has more history and heritage than the other 9 in the top 10 combined.. The health services and education is excellent. It is amazing how screwed up you get when prejudice creeps into the mindset..

[Liberty]

ffs how did Sydney make such a list. Everything ranked 7 and below must a very bad place to live in.

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by Poison Aerial ping pong (as you put it) is actually pretty intense. I didn't say I preferred it to rugby league mate, Doggies supporter through and through. Haha I don't know, Union isn't as big as RL in the Western Suburbs, maybe out in the Shire area or toward the city Union is bigger than RL, I don't really know.

I have played a bit of AFL when the Swans first came to sydney. We used to train with them for kicking practice. We all had quiet a few cross over matches{they playing rugby with us and we playing afl with them**, Poor AFL guys got hammered every time. I will admit its a good game for those scared of tackling and being tackled properly!

Western suburbs has a reasonable comp but in the working class areas rugby league rules. Trust me rugby is very big in sydney.


Ment to add Go the Doggies! Shrek is a mate of mine and he misses the doggies!

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by Liberty ffs how did Sydney make such a list. Everything ranked 7 and below must a very bad place to live in.

They Judged it on Bondi, Tama, Bronte, Cloey and Coogee!

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by madaboutlfc typical biased BS.. Apart from Vienna which is gorgeous Tehran has more history and heritage than the other 9 in the top 10 combined.. The health services and education is excellent. It is amazing how screwed up you get when prejudice creeps into the mindset..

[Liberty]

Originally Posted by sillyfan They Judged it on Bondi, Tama, Bronte, Cloey and Coogee!

I thought this was the Global "liveability" report.

[Serendipity]

can some one post the link please, showing full list of cities etc

[srh]

Originally Posted by Serendipity can some one post the link please, showing full list of cities etc

The link is in the opening post. The report is not free. They only give you top 10 and bottom 10 cities for free.

[Serendipity]

I see, thanks

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by adarsh_bang this is a very interesting thread , thanks for sharing the info bro but here 's the funny thing, i haven't even heard the names of a couple of cities listed there among the top ten , lol on the other hand the last ten names look quite familiar , but then this wasn't a popularity rating was it,its livibility they're talkin .. p.s ; could someone pls tell me where exactly does bangalore stand ?my guess is rank number 129 , lol;)

Your kidding right?

Which ones's?

[Looney]

Originally Posted by madaboutlfc typical biased BS.. Apart from Vienna which is gorgeous Tehran has more history and heritage than the other 9 in the top 10 combined.. The health services and education is excellent. It is amazing how screwed up you get when prejudice creeps into the mindset..

and correct if i am wrong but Iran's literacy rate is also pretty high

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Zero nightlife though. This may not bother PPers

Ve in Vest laake to have fun ttoo you know

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by srh Bottom 10 cities Rank Country City Rating 130= Senegal Dakar 48.3 130= Iran Tehran 48.3 132 Sri Lanka Colombo 47.3 133 Nepal Kathmandu 47.1 134 Cameroon Douala 43.3 135 Pakistan Karachi 40.9 136 Nigeria Lagos 39.0 137 PNG Port Moresby 38.9 138= Algeria Algiers 38.7 138= Bangladesh Dhaka 38.7 140 Zimbabwe Harare 37.5 http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?inf...age=noads&rf=0

Where is Kabul on the worst list?

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Yes it is. Provided you have a bucketload of money and can live in the Inner city, East or North East. And pay $10 in tolls every time you want to drive. But the rest of Sydney is not better than Melbourne.

Yea I used to live in Milsons Point on the north side of the Bridge. Life was good then

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Garuda Which top 10 city you haven't heard of ? I was trying to find the complete list to check Bangalore. But couldn't. But recently there was a poll (within India) and Bangalore was 3rd I think after Delhi & Mumbai.

Hello my friend. Long time no see

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by adarsh_bang this is a very interesting thread , thanks for sharing the info bro but here 's the funny thing, i haven't even heard the names of a couple of cities listed there among the top ten , lol on the other hand the last ten names look quite familiar , but then this wasn't a popularity rating was it,its livibility they're talkin .. p.s ; could someone pls tell me where exactly does bangalore stand ?my guess is rank number 129 , lol;)

LOL you need to get more up to speed on your geography mate.

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Poison Esh Ladz. Hahah. And Union is pretty small in Sydney, League is definitely the major focus during winter though; best sport bar none. I'm slowly watching a lot more AFL though *shifty*

LOL turn it up Poison. Union isn't small in Sydney - it's small everywhere but Sydney and Brisbane. Agree that league is bigger though. But Sydneysiders love our sport (but only if we're winning). Except basketball we were winning but we let the Kings go bankrupt (or maybe they did it to themselves). Go the TAHS!!

[Desire]

Originally Posted by Super Sixer WHAAAT?!?!? Its a conspiracy I'm telling you.Karachi is not one of the lowest!

ive been to karachi.. i dont want to hurt you but its the most ganda city i have seen and the only reason is its heavily populated.

[srh]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Where is Kabul on the worst list?

They did not include cities from countries where war is going on like Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Garuda]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat Hello my friend. Long time no see

looks like you didn't go thru the death overs of malik-maha match. I was scoring some slog runs there.

[Qelic]

I dont understand why the HECk is Tehran so down in the list ????????? Karachi , yes , it can be and must be included but Tehran is much much better and developed .

Putting karachi and Tehran closer in same rating is a joke . Tehran is much ahead in all relative aspects . Anybody who has seen both places would agree with me .

Tehran is famous for its Huge and Masterpiece Highway networking Almost 300 km long one of the longest in the world . The interchanges , loops and link diversions are so symmetric that reveals the generosity of the planners . Tehrans realistic population is around 10 million and there are extremely rare traffic jams . No comparasion to karachi . Tehrani Highways are unparalleled by an other asian city .

Moreover tehran has central Bus transit system BRT , it has MOST BUS STOPS IN ANY ASIAN CITY .

Tehrans Metro System is one of the finest in a Muslim state , It has 6 Operation Lines which are breathtaking 120 km long LONGEST IN ASIA . Every 200 secs break and u see a new Car at the station . Stations are so clean that I would compare them with Governor House in Karachi .

Architecture of Tehran is unparalleled by any other place in near . Heritage , Arts , Historical sites , symbols of Revolution , Museums . See the pics of Tehran Skyline urself . Husseniye Irshad , Azadi tower , Milad tower , Tehran International tower , Dar - ul - Funoon , University of Tehran , Shams ul Emarah , Green palace , laleh Bagh, Baghe Melli , Ahmed Shah pavillion etc . There are well maintained and numerous Parks and lakes which I cant find in whole Pakitsan except the only Mughal era Garden in Lahore .

Then comes the historical aspect , LOL Tehrani hisotry dates back to 5000 BC and the heritage is still intact to this day . There are more historical sites of BC era in Tehran alone then whole Pakistan . Museums are a big attraction in tehran for tourism .


Tehrans education History is as old as tehran itself is . The hisotrically recognized persian Philosphers , Scientists , Scholars , Poets , Writers , are a proof of this . When west was drowned in dark ages , Persia was in its educational golden age . The first Modern Higher education institute Dar Ul Funoon was developed in 1850 . In comparasion to Karachi the educational facilities and institutes are Ahead of Karachi or I guess even Biejing or Mumbai / delhi . U will hardly find a urban youth who is not educated . The no. of Public institutes / universities for 10 million Tehrani citizens is 3 times then karachi's 15 million citizens . The research level is far ahead ( I can testify ) and the no. of western teachers and employees are increasing in tehrani schools like UoT or Shareef University of tech. etc . Amirkabir University of Technology (Tehran Polytechnic), K.N.Toosi University of Technology, Iran University of Science and Technology, Shahid Beheshti University (Melli University), Iran University of Medical Sciences, Shahed University and Tarbiat Modarres University are other highly ranked universities of Iran located in Tehran.

Then comes the sports . Tehrans favourite sports , like whole iran is Soccer , We have the 3rd largest Azadi Soccer stadium in the world let alone asia or middel east . Other world class stadiums are Shahid Dastgerdi Stadium, Takhti Stadium, and Shahid Shirudi Stadium,We have Iran Premier league to follow , Estghlal Fc , persepolis , and Steel Azin are the local teams . We have 12 sky resorts near Tehran , Tochal , The Dizin Sky Resort is world 5th Highest and is a famous dating point , Shemshak is second highest after Dizin .


This is just a glimpse , If anyone gets a chance to visit Tehran , I am sure he would be impressed . Karachi is my pakistani Home town , and I have lived a thick most of my Life in karachi , got educated , work , does everything in karachi , I dont have anything else but to love it as a hometown but Tehran is much much more developed .

[tahaqureshi]

Originally Posted by poisonjet I dont understand why the HECk is Tehran so down in the list ????????? Karachi , yes , it can be and must be included but Tehran is much much better and developed . Putting karachi and Tehran closer in same rating is a joke . Tehran is much ahead in all relative aspects . Anybody who has seen both places would agree with me . Tehran is famous for its Huge and Masterpiece Highway networking Almost 300 km long one of the longest in the world . The interchanges , loops and link diversions are so symmetric that reveals the generosity of the planners . Tehrans realistic population is around 10 million and there are extremely rare traffic jams . No comparasion to karachi . Tehrani Highways are unparalleled by an other asian city . Moreover tehran has central Bus transit system BRT , it has MOST BUS STOPS IN ANY ASIAN CITY . Tehrans Metro System is one of the finest in a Muslim state , It has 6 Operation Lines which are breathtaking 120 km long LONGEST IN ASIA . Every 200 secs break and u see a new Car at the station . Stations are so clean that I would compare them with Governor House in Karachi . Architecture of Tehran is unparalleled by any other place in near . Heritage , Arts , Historical sites , symbols of Revolution , Museums . See the pics of Tehran Skyline urself . Husseniye Irshad , Azadi tower , Milad tower , Tehran International tower , Dar - ul - Funoon , University of Tehran , Shams ul Emarah , Green palace , laleh Bagh, Baghe Melli , Ahmed Shah pavillion etc . There are well maintained and numerous Parks and lakes which I cant find in whole Pakitsan except the only Mughal era Garden in Lahore . Then comes the historical aspect , LOL Tehrani hisotry dates back to 5000 BC and the heritage is still intact to this day . There are more historical sites of BC era in Tehran alone then whole Pakistan . Museums are a big attraction in tehran for tourism . Tehrans education History is as old as tehran itself is . The hisotrically recognized persian Philosphers , Scientists , Scholars , Poets , Writers , are a proof of this . When west was drowned in dark ages , Persia was in its educational golden age . The first Modern Higher education institute Dar Ul Funoon was developed in 1850 . In comparasion to Karachi the educational facilities and institutes are Ahead of Karachi or I guess even Biejing or Mumbai / delhi . U will hardly find a urban youth who is not educated . The no. of Public institutes / universities for 10 million Tehrani citizens is 3 times then karachi's 15 million citizens . The research level is far ahead ( I can testify ) and the no. of western teachers and employees are increasing in tehrani schools like UoT or Shareef University of tech. etc . Amirkabir University of Technology (Tehran Polytechnic), K.N.Toosi University of Technology, Iran University of Science and Technology, Shahid Beheshti University (Melli University), Iran University of Medical Sciences, Shahed University and Tarbiat Modarres University are other highly ranked universities of Iran located in Tehran. Then comes the sports . Tehrans favourite sports , like whole iran is Soccer , We have the 3rd largest Azadi Soccer stadium in the world let alone asia or middel east . Other world class stadiums are Shahid Dastgerdi Stadium, Takhti Stadium, and Shahid Shirudi Stadium,We have Iran Premier league to follow , Estghlal Fc , persepolis , and Steel Azin are the local teams . We have 12 sky resorts near Tehran , Tochal , The Dizin Sky Resort is world 5th Highest and is a famous dating point , Shemshak is second highest after Dizin . This is just a glimpse , If anyone gets a chance to visit Tehran , I am sure he would be impressed . Karachi is my pakistani Home town , and I have lived a thick most of my Life in karachi , got educated , work , does everything in karachi , I dont have anything else but to love it as a hometown but Tehran is much much more developed .

I'm very confused by you.

Are you Pakistani, Iranian or just confused?

[Qelic]

Originally Posted by tahaqureshi I'm very confused by you. Are you Pakistani, Iranian or just confused?

Please focus on my Post # 67 only . Thanks

[Gollum]

I think the list is Global Liveability Report for Americans. I agree surely that Tehran deserves much better place than the bottom 10.

On another note, the Canadian cities are about to go down in the list since the rising Canadian dollar is sure to bite the American tourists in the a**

[Equinox]

I love Dhaka City to bits but I can't deny that it has become miserable now. It is probably the World's most unplanned city with the worst traffic situation. Land prices are soaring and are way beyond the means of the majority of the people. Steps that should have been taken 20 years ago are being implemented now and I can only hope that the situation improves.

[srh]

Originally Posted by gollumbird I think the list is Global Liveability Report for Americans. I agree surely that Tehran deserves much better place than the bottom 10. On another note, the Canadian cities are about to go down in the list since the rising Canadian dollar is sure to bite the American tourists in the a**

I think not. Otherwise there would be atleast 1 american city in the top 10.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by srh I think not. Otherwise there will be atleast 1 american city in the top 10.

Compared to American cities - Buffalo has more murders than the whole of GTA - Canadian cities are heaven!

[srh]

Originally Posted by poisonjet I dont understand why the HECk is Tehran so down in the list ????????? Karachi , yes , it can be and must be included but Tehran is much much better and developed . Putting karachi and Tehran closer in same rating is a joke . Tehran is much ahead in all relative aspects . Anybody who has seen both places would agree with me . Tehran is famous for its Huge and Masterpiece Highway networking Almost 300 km long one of the longest in the world . The interchanges , loops and link diversions are so symmetric that reveals the generosity of the planners . Tehrans realistic population is around 10 million and there are extremely rare traffic jams . No comparasion to karachi . Tehrani Highways are unparalleled by an other asian city . Moreover tehran has central Bus transit system BRT , it has MOST BUS STOPS IN ANY ASIAN CITY . Tehrans Metro System is one of the finest in a Muslim state , It has 6 Operation Lines which are breathtaking 120 km long LONGEST IN ASIA . Every 200 secs break and u see a new Car at the station . Stations are so clean that I would compare them with Governor House in Karachi . Architecture of Tehran is unparalleled by any other place in near . Heritage , Arts , Historical sites , symbols of Revolution , Museums . See the pics of Tehran Skyline urself . Husseniye Irshad , Azadi tower , Milad tower , Tehran International tower , Dar - ul - Funoon , University of Tehran , Shams ul Emarah , Green palace , laleh Bagh, Baghe Melli , Ahmed Shah pavillion etc . There are well maintained and numerous Parks and lakes which I cant find in whole Pakitsan except the only Mughal era Garden in Lahore . Then comes the historical aspect , LOL Tehrani hisotry dates back to 5000 BC and the heritage is still intact to this day . There are more historical sites of BC era in Tehran alone then whole Pakistan . Museums are a big attraction in tehran for tourism . Tehrans education History is as old as tehran itself is . The hisotrically recognized persian Philosphers , Scientists , Scholars , Poets , Writers , are a proof of this . When west was drowned in dark ages , Persia was in its educational golden age . The first Modern Higher education institute Dar Ul Funoon was developed in 1850 . In comparasion to Karachi the educational facilities and institutes are Ahead of Karachi or I guess even Biejing or Mumbai / delhi . U will hardly find a urban youth who is not educated . The no. of Public institutes / universities for 10 million Tehrani citizens is 3 times then karachi's 15 million citizens . The research level is far ahead ( I can testify ) and the no. of western teachers and employees are increasing in tehrani schools like UoT or Shareef University of tech. etc . Amirkabir University of Technology (Tehran Polytechnic), K.N.Toosi University of Technology, Iran University of Science and Technology, Shahid Beheshti University (Melli University), Iran University of Medical Sciences, Shahed University and Tarbiat Modarres University are other highly ranked universities of Iran located in Tehran. Then comes the sports . Tehrans favourite sports , like whole iran is Soccer , We have the 3rd largest Azadi Soccer stadium in the world let alone asia or middel east . Other world class stadiums are Shahid Dastgerdi Stadium, Takhti Stadium, and Shahid Shirudi Stadium,We have Iran Premier league to follow , Estghlal Fc , persepolis , and Steel Azin are the local teams . We have 12 sky resorts near Tehran , Tochal , The Dizin Sky Resort is world 5th Highest and is a famous dating point , Shemshak is second highest after Dizin . This is just a glimpse , If anyone gets a chance to visit Tehran , I am sure he would be impressed . Karachi is my pakistani Home town , and I have lived a thick most of my Life in karachi , got educated , work , does everything in karachi , I dont have anything else but to love it as a hometown but Tehran is much much more developed .

I dont see the logic of your post comparing Tehran with Karachi. If you read the opening post you will see that Tehran is already ranked higher than Karachi. So what is the point of your post? Are you trying to jutify the rankings?

[Qelic]

Originally Posted by gollumbird I think the list is Global Liveability Report for Americans. I agree surely that Tehran deserves much better place than the bottom 10. On another note, the Canadian cities are about to go down in the list since the rising Canadian dollar is sure to bite the American tourists in the a**

Yeah I agree , This is just propoganda , Tehran deserves much much higher place in ratings . My dad , due to his nature of work , has seen almost all of the major world and he compares Tehran to Athens , Istanbul , Milan , Moscow , Kiev , Kuala lumpur . I dont think that these r bad places to compare with .

[Qelic]

Originally Posted by srh I dont see the logic of your post comparing Tehran with Karachi. If you read the opening post you will see that Tehran is already ranked higher than Karachi. So what is the point of your post? Are you trying to jutify the rankings?

1- Tehran 130 is wrongly listed closer to karachi 135 , do these two places only differ by 5 ranks ?

2- Tehran rightfully deserves a much much better rating up in the list , Which I have tried to jutsify in my post # 67 .

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by sillyfan No you guys can keep it down in VIC, dont want any more of that AFL rubbish up here!

Hate to break it to you but we are taking over your state and your lame sports.

When you get 5K to a Friday night game and we get 75K the differences are pretty obvious.

Union meh, just for toffs and that's the way it will stay. Dying sport.

[desi_boy]

Originally Posted by zimran72 Anyone that has visited both cities will tell you quite bluntly that Vancouver is a more attractive city that Toronto in many regards.

I don't know if what i heard is correct, but while i was listening to radio in the morning, they said that the average price for a house in Vancouver is a Whopping $ 1 million! now that's expensive!!

[sillyfan]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Hate to break it to you but we are taking over your state and your lame sports. When you get 5K to a Friday night game and we get 75K the differences are pretty obvious. Union meh, just for toffs and that's the way it will stay. Dying sport.

AFL can never take over, if its taken this long to even get a second team here it is a long way from taking over.


Thats because there is nothing to do in the whole of VIC on a friday night {You only have to look at the crowds the Storm gets in Melb to see ** so the only option is to go to AFL.

Sydney has Rugby, Rugby league, Soccer and AFL and nightlife to spread our crowds around!

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by poisonjet Yeah I agree , This is just propoganda , Tehran deserves much much higher place in ratings . My dad , due to his nature of work , has seen almost all of the major world and he compares Tehran to Athens , Istanbul , Milan , Moscow , Kiev , Kuala lumpur . I dont think that these r bad places to compare with .

Tehran's ranking could have been so low for many reasons.

There is an issue with a possibility of a war breaking out. The nuclear ambitions of the state are certainly taken into account because it could lead to serious problems for the city/country. Things like "potential wars" can alter the ranking of a city massively - and rightly so since its a "liveability" report. Tehran would certainly be shaky in the "stability" section of things.

Tehran has also had problems with air pollution over the years. The fact that air pollution emissions are so severe in Tehran must have effected their ranking as well.

Tehran does not have a good transportation system. You were correct when you stated that it "has the most bus stops" but they are all condensed into a small portion of Tehran. These bus stops do not spread all the way across Tehran and accessibility is a huge issue.

Now as I was suggesting before - Tehran has had problems from pollution. How do you think they got these problems? These pollution issues occur because Tehran's poor transportation accessibility. Most people have to resort to cars. If you don't agree with me - then read the reports given by Tehran's government stating that the city has problems with too many people resorting to cars. I think that is enough proof that Tehran's transportation infrastructure is not up to par.

Tehran is also on alert for potential earthquakes all the time. This doesn't bode well for their ranking as well.

I am not justifying the ranking given to them - but I am also showing that the picture isn't as rosy as you are showing it to be.