Narendra Modi is a Big Liar

[srh]

His government published an ad in newspapers claiming that minorities in Gujarat have better educational employment opportunities, more financial stability, health facilities and infrastructure than anywhere else.

The ad shows picture of a muslim girl Shahla Muzaffar. But Shahla Muzaffar is not from Gujrat; she is from UP. And also she posed for that photograph for a foreign magazine two years ago. Modi used her picture from the foreign magazine for his ad without informing her. She is saying "This is the sickest joke I’ve heard in 20 years of my life, ...Modi’s attitude towards minorities is well-known and hardly needs elaboration". The other 2 girls pictures in the ad are also muslims and they are classmates of Shahla Muzaffar

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/6042314.cms

[90MPH]

He is not just a liar, but a butcher and murderer with blood stained hands of over 1000 people.

[Down2Earth]

he is a hindu terrorist. no other way to describe this animal.

[Mohsin]

Liar, murderer, pathetic typical scum of

though you'll probably have some certain posters talking abot how great he is and how much work he's done etc etc...

[srh]

I heard there is talk in India of electing him as Prime Minister.

[MalikMohsin]

Originally Posted by srh I heard there is talk in India of electing him as Prime Minister.

WHAT?

Shabhash the public in INDIA. That's what Muslim people deserve this nowadays.

[amar1212]

Wait till Indian posters sign up to this site just to post here and defend him.

[MalikMohsin]

Originally Posted by amar1212 Wait till Indian posters sign up to this site just to post here and defend him.

That's sad part and not to mention they still continue to support Israel for treating Palestine people worse.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by MalikMohsin That's sad part and not to mention they still continue to support Israel for treating Palestine people worse.

I am Indian and I have never supported Israel's mis treatment of the Palestinians..

[SheedaRaacut]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti I am Indian and I have never supported Israel's mis treatment of the Palestinians..

would you like a cookie ?

[MalikMohsin]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti I am Indian and I have never supported Israel's mis treatment of the Palestinians..

I am not talking about your or anyone who want peace and harmony. But the majority are in favor of Israel as much as the majority are Pakistani haters or comparison for the majority in Pakistan are Indian haters just to avoid misunderstanding for making this point clear.

[mastermind_quad]

He is not less then a terrorist........!!!!!!!!!!

only thing i m frustrated about my country is ...there is no value of life for poor people .....if u have money or power u can do anything anywhere and most probably u'll be free...u can twist the laws accordingly....see what happen to KASAB there is a hearing going on him ...when everything is proved ...he need to be hanged ....and just few days ago there was a news KASAB well wisher's want to hijack Mumbai Airport to make him free....we are sick in Laws ...we need to tighten up the Laws ...manipulation is very easy here ....there are lot of thing proved by SIT committee against Modi ...he need to be freed from his powers at least and then hearing should be like as on normal person not like VIP's...and he need to be hanged as well....whatever u have done for ur state or city doesn't count for 100's of life ......

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by MalikMohsin I am not talking about your or anyone who want peace and harmony. But the majority are in favor of Israel as much as the majority are Pakistani haters or comparison for the majority in Pakistan are Indian haters just to avoid misunderstanding for making this point clear.

Thats not true, yes there would be some Indians who supports Israel's actions against the Palestinians however most dont. Majority of Indian love towards Israel is for their Weapons plus the fact if we ever go to war with any country they will be the first to come to our aid.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by SheedaRaacut would you like a cookie ?

Yeah and a glass of milk..

[mastermind_quad]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Thats not true, yes there would be some Indians who supports Israel's actions against the Palestinians however most dont. Majority of Indian love towards Israel is for their Weapons plus the fact if we ever go to war with any country they will be the first to come to our aid.

really ...such a small country and so powerful in that....

[tanzeel]

Modi is a terrorist, end of discussion. Can't expect terrorists to be honest, can you?

[Dhirajmes]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Thats not true, yes there would be some Indians who supports Israel's actions against the Palestinians however most dont. Majority of Indian love towards Israel is for their Weapons plus the fact if we ever go to war with any country they will be the first to come to our aid.

You are absolutely wrong. The majority of Indians DO support Israel's
"actions" against the Palestinians. The simple reason for this is that
nuclear deterrence and U.S. interests in the Pakistan military-intelligence
establishment make it impossible for India to retaliate militarily against
Pakistan like Israel does against Hamas or Hezbollah. Most Indians
have an admiration, whether open or sneaking, for Israel's "actions".

By definition, most Indians who come to post on a Pakistani forum will
be the Aman-ki-Asha types, more sympathetic to pan-Islamic causes.

It's not about weapons: India buys foreign supplies from France, Russia and the U.S.

The only positive achievement of the Nehru-Gandhis' "non-aligned"
foreign policy -- and its hangovers today -- is that it allows India to
be all things to all countries, and have excellent relations with both
Israel and the Palestinian Authority -- and not to forget Iran, either.

[Dhirajmes]

Coming back to the topic of Modi, he is, like Thackeray, a mass murderer.

He ordered his police to hold back while the murderous fringe of the
Hindu Sangh Parivar -- the Bajrangis -- went around killing Muslims.

Psychotic and possibly psychopathic ideologues like him manage
something remarkable: they dehumanize the 'other' -- Muslims,
in Modi's case -- to the extent that their lives are just worthless.

The tragedy of Modi, or the BJP -- is that Modi is an excellent
administrator, non-corrupt, and pro-business and pro-investor.

(Except, again, when it comes to Muslims -- as in protecting rioters)


But it's a bit rich for Pakistanis to go on bashing this particular
mass murderer and crypto-fascist ideologue -- when the most
important and glorified 'Pakistanis' of all -- right from the seventh
century -- have been the Ghaznis and Qasims and the Timurs.

And their particular mass murdering is all fine because they mass-murdered Hindus, right?

[Sameer K]

Originally Posted by srh His government published an ad in newspapers claiming that minorities in Gujarat have better educational employment opportunities, more financial stability, health facilities and infrastructure than anywhere else. The ad shows picture of a muslim girl Shahla Muzaffar. But Shahla Muzaffar is not from Gujrat; she is from UP. And also she posed for that photograph for a foreign magazine two years ago. Modi used her picture from the foreign magazine for his ad without informing her. She is saying "This is the sickest joke I’ve heard in 20 years of my life, ...Modi’s attitude towards minorities is well-known and hardly needs elaboration". The other 2 girls pictures in the ad are also muslims and they are classmates of Shahla Muzaffar http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/6042314.cms

Actually, the ad is true. The per capita income of minorities is the highest in Gujarat.

[Dhirajmes]

Originally Posted by Sameer K Actually, the ad is true. The per capita income of minorities is the highest in Gujarat.

Gujarati Muslims -- Bohras, Memons and so on -- one of whom
Mahomedali Jinnahbhai was -- have always been wealthier
than the average pre-'47 Punjabi Muslim, or the average Bihari
or pre-'47 Bengali Muslim. That phenomenon holds true today.

Their greater wealth is attributable to the fact that they are,
after all, upper-caste Gujarati converts who were once traders.

In addition, they are, in general, far less religious than
their Muslim counterparts in the rest of today's India.

Their prosperity owes nothing to Narendra Modi, who is a mass murderer.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Dhirajmes You are absolutely wrong. The majority of Indians DO support Israel's"actions" against the Palestinians. The simple reason for this is that nuclear deterrence and U.S. interests in the Pakistan military-intelligence establishment make it impossible for India to retaliate militarily against Pakistan like Israel does against Hamas or Hezbollah. Most Indians have an admiration, whether open or sneaking, for Israel's "actions". By definition, most Indians who come to post on a Pakistani forum will be the Aman-ki-Asha types, more sympathetic to pan-Islamic causes. It's not about weapons: India buys foreign supplies from France, Russia and the U.S. The only positive achievement of the Nehru-Gandhis' "non-aligned" foreign policy -- and its hangovers today -- is that it allows India to be all things to all countries, and have excellent relations with both Israel and the Palestinian Authority -- and not to forget Iran, either.

Define 'majority' Indians for me, out of 1 Billion of us how many is 'majority' ? Also you talk about Indians being sympathetic on a Pakistani website ? well I got news for you, I am not sympathetic to no one I speak my mind regardless. How many Indians would come to a Pakistani messageboard and call Aurangzeb an 'animal' ?


P.S. Israel overtakes Russia as the main Defense supplier to India :
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-193776704.html I think we def have love for their weapons..

[Dhirajmes]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Define 'majority' Indians for me, out of 1 Billion of us how many is 'majority' ? Also you talk about Indians being sympathetic on a Pakistani website ? well I got news for you, I am not sympathetic to no one I speak my mind regardless. How many Indians would come to a Pakistani messageboard and call Aurangzeb an 'animal' ?

Survey after survey has consistently indicated that India is the most
pro-Israel country in the world. I know most of these pollsters; they
have varying means of getting their samples, but most of them ask
people on the street in the big cities. As for the online crowd, do I
really need to spell it out? Go to any of the top-20 most-visited Indian
online news sites that permit comments. Any story about Israel attacking
either the Gaza, or the reverse, or, previously, the war with Lebanon,
elicits comments that are overwhelmingly pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian.

I do not claim to know any more than this very suggestive evidence.

If you have some evidence that the majority of Indians do not,
in fact, support Israeli actions against the Palestinians, I'd be
happy to see it. What's this childish stuff about "define majority"?

As for your last barb, let me then be the first to call Aurangzeb
and Narendra Modi 'animals", or whatever other appellation it
is in your mind that mass murderers merit. The same for Ghazni.

[Dhirajmes]

Originally Posted by MalikMohsin WHAT? Shabhash the public in INDIA. That's what Muslim people deserve this nowadays.

Narendra Modi will never be Prime Minister. The BJP is losing
its allies and alienating potential ones thanks to the kind of
politics that Narendra Modi embodies. That is sad, as India
desperately needs to avoid the tyranny of a one-party rule.

Like in the rest of South Asia, there is basically no political
party that really stands for economic liberty. The Congress
basically believes in nothing and has shifting positions on
every issue I can think of in the last 10 years, the BJP has
the lunacy of the Hindu nationalists behind it and the rest
and regional parties that specialize in corruption and hate.

I blame a venal ignoramus like Indira Gandhi for failing India
with her fascistic commie economics and her corrupt politics.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Dhirajmes Survey after survey has consistently indicated that India is the most pro-Israel country in the world. I know most of these pollsters; they have varying means of getting their samples, but most of them ask people on the street in the big cities. As for the online crowd, do I really need to spell it out? Go to any of the top-20 most-visited Indian online news sites that permit comments. Any story about Israel attacking either the Gaza, or the reverse, or, previously, the war with Lebanon, elicits comments that are overwhelmingly pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian. I do not claim to know any more than this very suggestive evidence. If you have some evidence that the majority of Indians do not, in fact, support Israeli actions against the Palestinians, I'd be happy to see it. What's this childish stuff about "define majority"? As for your last barb, let me then be the first to call Aurangzeb and Narendra Modi 'animals", or whatever other appellation it is in your mind that mass murderers merit. The same for Ghazni.

India is pro-Israel in a lot of ways!! I dont have any surveys to back up my claim except for the fact Indian leadership has always recognised the Palestinian struggle which gives more credibility to my claim than yours. Unless ofcourse you can bring out these 'surveys' which shows 'majority' of the Indians pro Israel in regards to the 'Palestinian' issue.


P.S Top 20 Indian websites dont count for 'majority' of Indians, wonder if 'Majority' of Indians in India have Internet even...

[srh]

Originally Posted by Sameer K Actually, the ad is true. The per capita income of minorities is the highest in Gujarat.

You do not seem to understand this thread. Consider this example:

Your family has a farm which produces corn. One of your family member Shahla has given an interview to a foreign company and that company also took a picture of her.
Mr. Modi kills a lot of your family members. Then he gets hold of picture of your family member Shahla. Then he produced an ad in the newspaper saying that your family is safe and sound, and enjoying life and they have a farm which produces corn. He also put picture of your family member Shahla in the ad so she appears to approve of Modi's words.

I come to you and said Mr. Modi is right. What will you say?

[Sameer K]

Originally Posted by srh You do not seem to understand this thread. Consider this example: Your family has a farm which produces corn. One of your family member Shahla has given an interview to a foreign company and that company also took a picture of her. Mr. Modi kills a lot of your family members. Then he gets hold of picture of your family member Shahla. Then he produced an ad in the newspaper saying that your family is safe and sound, and enjoying life and they have a farm which produces corn. He also put picture of your family member Shahla in the ad so she appears to approve of Modi's words. I come to you and said Mr. Modi is right. What will you say?

The ad that claims that the minorities in Gujarat are financially well off is not a lie. The minorities are quite well off.

Coming to your point about Modi, I think we can all agree he is a lot worse than just a liar.

[srh]

Originally Posted by Sameer K The ad that claims that the minorities in Gujarat are financially well off is not a lie. The minorities are quite well off. Coming to your point about Modi, I think we can all agree he is a lot worse than just a liar.

So continuing with the example if Modi said that your family has a farm which produces corn, it will not be a lie. But your family has a farm long before Modi comes into power. But Modi is presenting it in this way in the ad that your family got the farm after he came into power.

Do you think Modi is right in claiming your family having a farm as his achievement?

[s2k]

Well i think hardly any Indian will disagree that Narendra Modi lot worse than a liar.......

I dont think many Indians care what Israel does in Palestine...the support for israel is because Israel is our biggest supplier of arms and helped us with arms in kargil war of 1999....and more since then...lot of weapons and high end technologies are co produced or co researched with them.

so actually Pro Israeli stance is because they are good for our country.

India has traditionally supported the Palestinian cause bt after the Hezbollah and Hamas and other terrorist issues associated with Palestine India has decided to take no stand on Palestine.

[pal]

Israel is a key ally. Why would you expect India to interfere in their foreign affairs and ruin a relationship that is necessary for India's security and survival?

Pakistan did not utter a word, not even a little whimper of disapproval, when China slaughtered Uyghur Muslims in the riots in Urumqui last year. It's just the nature of international politics, sadly.

[jusarrived]

He deserves to be hanged , but here hes not lying though ...theres no denying Gujrat is the best managed state in India .

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by srh His government published an ad in newspapers claiming that minorities in Gujarat have better educational employment opportunities, more financial stability, health facilities and infrastructure than anywhere else.

barring the riot hit areas, Gujarat may have better living standards for minorities but Modi should be the last one to claim any credit of it.

[x2zee123]

Just how much muslims are in gujrat after the riot? They killed them all, prolly left some to be there servant

[Sameer K]

Originally Posted by x2zee123 Just how much muslims are in gujrat after the riot? They killed them all, prolly left some to be there servant

Ignorance and stupidity.

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by MalikMohsin WHAT? Shabhash the public in INDIA. That's what Muslim people deserve this nowadays.

DON'T WORRY man,if iam alive than he can never become pm i can assured you.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Sir john DON'T WORRY man,if iam alive than he can never become pm i can assured you.

And who are you Mugabe ?

[Sir john]

Iam a zimfan only.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Sir john Iam a zimfan only.

Can you please explain this quote you made:

Originally Posted by Sir john DON'T WORRY man,if iam alive than he can never become pm i can assured you.

[Sir john]

i can tell you,if i wish i can stop him in becoming pm,

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Sir john i can tell you,if i wish i can stop him in becoming pm,

Oh if you can; please solve the Israel/Palestine issue also while you are at it ....

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Oh if you can; please solve the Israel/Palestine issue also while you are at it ....

i have no solution for that one,as i have limited power.

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Oh if you can; please solve the Israel/Palestine issue also while you are at it ....

don't think that iam joking.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Sir john don't think that iam joking.

[Sameer K]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti

[x2zee123]

Originally Posted by Sameer K Ignorance and stupidity.

Yea i kno narendara modi is ignorant and stupid..

[Sameer K]

Originally Posted by x2zee123 Yea i kno narendara modi is ignorant and stupid..

Google and wikipedia are your friends. Let them help you. There is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age.

How many muslims do you think died in the riots?

[1137moiz]

Originally Posted by Sir john don't think that iam joking.

agree now

[dani2k]

Narendra Modi for PM ? In his dreams!

[Down2Earth]

sir john

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth sir john

what its mean i am saying truth.

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Sir john what its mean i am saying truth.

please carry on

[nish_mate]

Originally Posted by Sir john don't think that iam joking.

We dont get banta cola in our colony in Del any more...

Can you help pls??

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by nish_mate We dont get banta cola in our colony in Del any more... Can you help pls??

modi dream never going to complete,if iam there.

[Munda Pakistani]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Thats not true, yes there would be some Indians who supports Israel's actions against the Palestinians however most dont. Majority of Indian love towards Israel is for their Weapons plus the fact if we ever go to war with Pakistan they will be the first to come to our aid.

Corrected.

The major, if not the only, reason why Israel supports India is to use India as a bunny to destroy Pakistan. I don't say this; david Ben Gurion (Israel's founding father) does.

"The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans." David Ben Gurion

[ozymandias]

The only true 'friend' for India is Russia, its sad that india is increasingly neglecting them, for the western powers.

[ozymandias]

BJP is sinking fast. Modi will never be PM.

All i wish was a better Left combine to give the Congress some competition.

It would really be good, Center Vs Left, with no Right in the picture at all.

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by ozymandias BJP is sinking fast. Modi will never be PM. All i wish was a better Left combine to give the Congress some competition. It would really be good, Center Vs Left, with no Right in the picture at all.

you are wrong,

[pal]

Originally Posted by Munda Pakistani Corrected. The major, if not the only, reason why Israel supports India is to use India as a bunny to destroy Pakistan. I don't say this; david Ben Gurion (Israel's founding father) does.

Corrected. That's a fabricated quote.

It was addressed earlier this year in another thread: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ad.php?t=88555

It is cited to an article that was supposedly printed on The Jewish Chronicle in August 6, 1967.

The paper wasn't even published on August 6, 1967.

The Jewish Chronicle makes its archives, from 1841 onwards, available online. Feel free to search through them for the quote here:

http://website.thejc.com/archlnk.aspx

[nish_mate]

Originally Posted by ozymandias The only true 'friend' for India is Russia, its sad that india is increasingly neglecting them, for the western powers.

Russia can never be true friend of anyone.

I have lived amongst them and they see India as a stepping stone to their greatness....nothing more or less.

They helped us when it suited them.

[Down2Earth]

sir john how will you stop him?

[ozymandias]

Originally Posted by nish_mate Russia can never be true friend of anyone. I have lived amongst them and they see India as a stepping stone to their greatness....nothing more or less. They helped us when it suited them.

No they are helping us even now. They are not putting conditions like US in our deals. They are willing to help us in our defense, and nuclear energy and what not. US only wants more US companies to build nuclear reactors here, forced selling of their products, not the transfer of knowledge like Russia.

[Cryin Out Loud]

He's not a liar; he's a lying b@st@rd.

Please note the difference.

[nish_mate]

Originally Posted by ozymandias No they are helping us even now. They are not putting conditions like US in our deals. They are willing to help us in our defense, and nuclear energy and what not. US only wants more US companies to build nuclear reactors here, forced selling of their products, not the transfer of knowledge like Russia.

Where did they go during the 90's....remember the cyrogenic or whatever transfer...

they dtiched out

Only reason they are coming to India is coz India has got the money and is a growing market.

They not selling it to us out of brotherly love...


Mate even Russians dont trust their own reactors and they selling them to us...

Want a cheap and cheerful nuke reactor...go for french

[Dhirajmes]

Narendra Modi -- or, to his supporters, Mahatma Modi -- is a baffling paradox.

He can appear very outwardly civilized -- and he is a hugely intelligent person.

But is he an intelligent politician? No.


Bal Thackeray -- responsible for the murder of over a thousand Muslims in Mumbai
in early 1993 -- is a mass murderer and criminal every bit as much as Narendra Modi.
Thackeray spoke, after his mass murders, of how he was "proud of what my boys did".
Narendra Modi, on the other hand, has never admitted to, or boasted of his crimes.

And yet, when we speak of Thackeray, do we (Indians or otherwise) automatically
think of that 1993 pogrom? Why is it so different with Modi and the memory of '02?

The reason is that Thackeray has himself chosen to shed his "kill-Muslims" image.
He has been close to Muslim leaders since then, and has abandoned hate speech.

Not so with Modi.

Almost everything he says as a talking point in his speeches apart from tom-tomming
Gujarat's development is a subtle jab at Muslims. He calls the Congress in Delhi the
"Dilli Sultanat". He makes whole election issues out of Sohrabuddin and Afzal Guru.

He has made his bed and will lie on it.

It is a sad waste of a brilliant mind and leadership skills.

The real entity to blame here is the RSS -- and its subtly quasi-fascist, intolerant ideology.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by nish_mate Where did they go during the 90's....remember the cyrogenic or whatever transfer... they dtiched out Only reason they are coming to India is coz India has got the money and is a growing market. They not selling it to us out of brotherly love... Mate even Russians dont trust their own reactors and they selling them to us... Want a cheap and cheerful nuke reactor...go for french

Well No shi*, name one country who would do anything for brotherly love, its all about self interest.. Do you think these Saudi Arabs actually gives a damn about the Palestinians ? Or China would even want to associate with Pakistan wasnt for India ? Fact is Israel and India both have self interests which benefits each other so doesnt matter if both arent soul mates ....We might have been in a bit of strife in Kargil if Israel didnt come to our aid and I sure as hell dont care if the reason they came was not because of brotherly love as we got the help we needed...

[Dhirajmes]

Nitish Kumar -- the Bihar Chief Minister -- has rubbed salt in Modi's wounds
by returning the flood relief money Modi donated to Bihar in 2005. Although
Nitish Kumar is an ally of the BJP (for those unfamiliar with Indian politics)
he is doing this to ensure Bihar's 20% Muslim population votes for him soon:

http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/lates...626.php?u=1225

A well-written analysis of Modi on a pan-India political scale:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/6067102.cms

[Sir john]

Originally Posted by Dhirajmes Nitish Kumar -- the Bihar Chief Minister -- has rubbed salt in Modi's wounds by returning the flood relief money Modi donated to Bihar in 2005. Although Nitish Kumar is an ally of the BJP (for those unfamiliar with Indian politics) he is doing this to ensure Bihar's 20% Muslim population votes for him soon: http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/lates...626.php?u=1225 A well-written analysis of Modi on a pan-India political scale: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/6067102.cms

lalu is coming back.