MMA PARTY - Is it a move into the future or a move back into the stone age

[sarge23306]

The MMA goverment in the NWFP is a shambles. All they do is criticise and criticise. The tactics that the MMA have used in recent months like the races organised by the human rights campaigners have been despicable, whatever happened to civilised society. It seems the MMA have forgot a few islamic morals themselves when it has come to dealing with people. No where does it say you can attack people with sticks and stones for running together, they should have used the tongue rather than the fist. Do the people here on pakpassion agree or disagree that to have this party control pakistan would be a disaster or a new age for pakistan. No one wants a corrupt party that claims to be islamic, into power. Who agrees and who disagrees?

[zaf1986]

MMA = Prehistoric age.

[suhaib]

if i were presidant i would have chucked them out my country long time ago.

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by suhaibonline if i were presidant i would have chucked them out my country long time ago.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by suhaibonline if i were presidant i would have chucked them out my country long time ago.

i thought you was pro democracy, freedom of speech and all that

[Pathan007]

Originally Posted by suhaibonline if i were presidant i would have chucked them out my country long time ago.

u r living abroad. how could u be a president of Pakistan

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by suhaibonline if i were presidant i would have chucked them out my country long time ago.

yes suhaib , we have already seen how ur wonderful mind works, typically from the example u gave on how pakistan stands to profit from this earthquake. before shaming ur self by saying that didnt u see the plight of the ppl suffering in those areas?

so if anything u should be the last person discussing the economy of pakistan.or discussing anything of substance for that matter. if you do decide to tell us something brutally honestly, do tell us how old are u ? and what medications are u on ?

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy yes suhaib , we have already seen how ur wonderful mind works, typically from the example u gave on how pakistan stands to profit from this earthquake. before shaming ur self by saying that didnt u see the plight of the ppl suffering in those areas? so if anything u should be the last person discussing the economy of pakistan.or discussing anything of substance for that matter. if you do decide to tell us something brutally honestly, do tell us how old are u ? and what medications are u on ?

learn english dude, the topic was how pakistans economy was gona survive not make profit you fool.

[Edit by Mods: Dont be rude pls - if you can express yourself in English without swearing, people will listen to you more !]

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed i thought you was pro democracy, freedom of speech and all that

ye but one you start interfering in our peoples business thats different,

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy yes suhaib , we have already seen how ur wonderful mind works, typically from the example u gave on how pakistan stands to profit from this earthquake. before shaming ur self by saying that didnt u see the plight of the ppl suffering in those areas? so if anything u should be the last person discussing the economy of pakistan.or discussing anything of substance for that matter. if you do decide to tell us something brutally honestly, do tell us how old are u ? and what medications are u on ?

btw that was called an article from the news you

[Edit by Mods: Dont be rude pls - if you can express yourself in English without swearing, people will listen to you more !]

, if you know what that is.

[Toony™®]

chill bruv... wheres all this anger coming from?

[returnee]

MMA is the only party that has never ruled. Give them a chance, who knows maybe they will do a good job

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by returnee MMA is the only party that has never ruled. Give them a chance, who knows maybe they will do a good job

I doubt it, not really secular or western friendly.

[returnee]

Originally Posted by toonboy_awaisyboy™ I doubt it, not really secular or western friendly.

How do you know, from there lengthy track record in power? First try them out, PPP, and PML have both ruled for long times

[Toony™®]

Originally Posted by returnee How do you know, from there lengthy track record in power? First try them out, PPP, and PML have both ruled for long times

From what they have done in the NWF....

[suhaib]

it really depends on there main leader not there track record, and there visions for pakistan.

you should always vote in someone who has there heart for pakistan and consider pakistan before everythink else.

[Invictus]

They dont have a main leader. MMA is more of a collaboration of all the major religious political parties. Jamiat (Head Qazi) Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Head Fuzal-ur-Rehman) and a host of different ones. They wont be in power. Musharraf needed them in the last election to create a threat for the West to keep the support( we have crazy mullahs getting in power back me up and I'll take care of them). I dont think they have any future in power in Pakistan. Dont worry bout them too much. Government in Pakistan need them just like US needs "Evil power that wants to destroy the US" to scare people. Thats all they are and thats all they will ever be.

[sarge23306]

The MMA people is a party that dont even deserve to be called a party, it is a disgrace to the great nation of pakistan, have asnyone heard anything in the news about them actually contributing to the effort to help people? probably not, as they are busy criticising the government. thank you

[pakistani_banda]

do u prefer mqm or mma now that is the question........??????????cos i prefer mma over mqm.............

[Daoud]

Originally Posted by pakistani_banda do u prefer mqm or mma now that is the question........??????????cos i prefer mma over mqm.............

Hmmm, toughie. I guess MMA and thats saying something about the MQM considering I'm 'urdu speaking'

[Saeed Anwar-194]

Originally Posted by sarge23306 The MMA people is a party that dont even deserve to be called a party, it is a disgrace to the great nation of pakistan, have asnyone heard anything in the news about them actually contributing to the effort to help people? probably not, as they are busy criticising the government. thank you

Well funny you say that i was watching Geo news and in there headlines they have at bottom of screen they say all the Mp's of MMA will donate 1 month salary to earthquake appeal maybe you should worry how much you give Allah wont ask you about others

[Aurangzeb]

where the hell did mqm come into this?...i'd have neither party...both are the same thing...trying to consolidate power...villifying the government in power...both right wing in ideology...always looking for conflict...and no bias here, i'm also urdu-speaking...i prefer the current gov't...

[sarge23306]

Originally Posted by Saeed Anwar-194 Well funny you say that i was watching Geo news and in there headlines they have at bottom of screen they say all the Mp's of MMA will donate 1 month salary to earthquake appeal maybe you should worry how much you give Allah wont ask you about others

Thanks for the reply, that disproved my point then that the MMA isnt doing anything to help in the current climate, thank you anyway for raising that point. But still, in general the question to be answered is that can the MMA be a viable party that will get elected into government. On the point of saying the MMA have contributed each a months salaries, are there any other news articles about them helping the sick and injured, i mean in a recent news article via reuters, we have sikh members helping members of the pakistani community, yet i dont see the MMA pulling their finger out on the ground where it matters, especially as they criticise the musharaff government so much, they should take the initiative if they are sincere. thank you

[sarge23306]

Also, pakistan is an islamic republic and under islamic guidance principles, jews and christians are supposed to be given some rights and protection under the islamic state, can we also see this happening under the MMA, probably not, probably more persecution in a time when the nation needs to be held together

[Fessal]

Stone age and MMA are meant to be an Islamic party but some of there views and talk I finf very hard to accept as Islamic...probably a lot of it.

[sarge23306]

Come on ppl, need a wider diversity of views!

[Hash]

To call the MMA stone age would be an insult to the stone age. These people are an absolute disgrace to humanity. They are very good at opposing and rallying the uneducated masses into taking part in demonstrations about a religion column in the passport but since they have come to power in NWFP, have they done anything that would improve the life of the common man? Anything related to education? health? Nothing is the answer. All they ever do is say 'islam this , islam that' when what they really mean is they just want Pakistan to just be Saudi Arabia but without the oil.

In fact, they even opposed Musharaf's plan to put in free literacy centres for the kids of poor people because they said it would take the children away from their maddrassas.

Wahabbis. I hope they completely disintegrate in the next election. I know a few people in Peshawar and according to them, people are beginning to get sick and tired of them. Because they talk a lot, but they have not actually done anything. Inshallah they will get booted out for good in the next election. Then Fazl ur Rehman saab can go on a crash diet because he certainly needs one.

[sarge23306]

lol, nice reply bro, couldnt agree with you anymore! Though, I havent seen anyone on this thread who does like them, any views put forward now, especially if you like them will be welcome

[Hash]

I don't think anyone in their right mind would admit to supporting the MMA.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by suhaibonline ye but one you start interfering in our peoples business thats different,

BUT it still goes against freedom of speech and democracy which you are a great fan of

[Daoud]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed BUT it still goes against freedom of speech and democracy which you are a great fan of

People, especially those who support 'democracy' only like an idea when it favours them. But thats a totally different story.

[Fessal]

Originally Posted by Hash Then Fazl ur Rehman saab can go on a crash diet because he certainly needs one.

I bet they eat and use western imported food and products. Anyway don't know too much about Maulana Fazl ur Rehman but that Qazi Hussain is disgraceful for trying to score political points over the earthquake..taking advantage of such a sad natural disaster for humanity and Pakistan.. Worse of all Qazi Hussain said that we shouldn't take aid from American and the West because its against Islam or something like that. What a disgrace.

[alybaba]

More like the Jurassic age.

[sarge23306]

Thanks for the replies people, it seems very clear that no one here seems to like them! still have yet to see whether anyone does like them, just for the purpose of a debate.

[kasoo10]

I hate their political views. Although most religious groups and ulama have said that religious movements in Pakistan should stay away from politics, I do not agree with that as well.

I do believe that Islam is a complete religion and in order to create an Islamic state you need religious political parties. But MMA is not even close to what I would vote for.

[Cartman]

hey kasoo maybe they need to import some of the deobandi leaders from India to help impose Shariah in Pakistan.. I am sure you would love that wont ya?

[kasoo10]

Yeah! may be that is the answer to their decline.

[Cartman]

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[Daoud]

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You feeling OK Cartman

[Cartman]

I am just trying to calm myself down.. you know .. learnt this from my anger management therapy sessions last year..

[kasoo10]

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If that is how we are talking now!

[Daoud]

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[sarge23306]

calm down people, the topic is to discuss! not have go's at each other!